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| ZOMG: Barney Frank's "Partner"? An Executive at Fannie Mae![]() Unqualified home buyers were not the only ones who benefitted from Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank’s efforts to deregulate Fannie Mae throughout the 1990s. So did Frank’s partner, a Fannie Mae executive at the forefront of the agency’s push to relax lending restrictions. Now that Fannie Mae is at the epicenter of a financial meltdown that threatens the U.S. economy, some are raising new questions about Frank's relationship with Herb Moses, who was Fannie’s assistant director for product initiatives. Moses worked at the government-sponsored enterprise from 1991 to 1998, while Frank was on the House Banking Committee, which had jurisdiction over Fannie. Both Frank and Moses assured the Wall Street Journal in 1992 that they took pains to avoid any conflicts of interest. Critics, however, remain skeptical. "It’s absolutely a conflict," said Dan Gainor, vice president of the Business & Media Institute. "He was voting on Fannie Mae at a time when he was involved with a Fannie Mae executive. How is that not germane?Does the fucking press do NO SCRUTINIZING OR DIGGING even into the most basic facts about Democrats whatsoever? Why is this just coming out now? At Fox Fucking News, of course. Why? Why is it I fucking know the exact time Sarah Palin had amniotic fluid leakage and I'm just finding this out now? Thanks to Christopher. Comments1
Homophobe.
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 03, 2008 05:34 PM (IhQuA) 2
Remember when the left went all crazy like that Rep. Doolittle's wifes' consulting business did work for Abramoff? They said that was really, really bad.
Posted by: topsecretk9 at October 03, 2008 05:34 PM (O+hJO) 3
Both Frank and Moses assured the Wall Street Journal in 1992 that they took pains to avoid any conflicts of interest.
By the Gwen Ifill standard there was no conflict of interest. Posted by: Aldo at October 03, 2008 05:35 PM (sBRGc) 4
I wonder who got this into circulation?
KEEP. HOPE. ALIVE! well, thank you, Jesse. I think I will. I think I will. Posted by: Jayne Cobb at October 03, 2008 05:37 PM (+MtXg) 5
This sickens me on so many levels.
Posted by: Bart at October 03, 2008 05:37 PM (d/L0R) 6
This is doing nothing to help my current disgust with humanity and the special people. You are forcing me to yet again link to your ass, Ace and link from a blog post full of totally inappropriate language and general abusive sentiment. I love you so much....
Posted by: Jen at October 03, 2008 05:38 PM (4xBEr) 7
There are quite a few media conflicts of interest that make the Fannie Mae ties etc. not important for them to report
David Gregory married to a Fannie executive and check this out...Judy Woodruff and Jamie Gorelick are on the same Board of Trustees of the Urban Institute http://tinyurl.com/4j4zxc Posted by: topsecretk9 at October 03, 2008 05:38 PM (O+hJO) Posted by: wiserbud at October 03, 2008 05:38 PM (KJexA) 9
Even I find this too easy to make a joke about... Moses left Fannie in 1998 to start his own pottery business. National Mortgage News called Moses a “mortgage guru” and said he developed “many of Fannie Mae's affordable housing and home improvement lending programs. Moses ended his relationship with Frank just months after he left Fannie.
Posted by: AndrewsDad at October 03, 2008 05:39 PM (C2//T) 10
Urban Institute
Board of Trustees Jamie S. Gorelick1,2 Partner Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr Judy Woodruff Special Correspondent NewsHour with Jim Lehrer Posted by: topsecretk9 at October 03, 2008 05:40 PM (O+hJO) 11
Glenn Beck mentioned this at least a week ago.
Posted by: AndrewsDad at October 03, 2008 05:40 PM (C2//T) 12
mr. straight talk is so quiet about democratic involvement in bailout..what is up...they have told sp not to speak of "it". It is scary
Posted by: free at October 03, 2008 05:40 PM (cFwGO) 13
I'm still working on Trig Palin's birth records.
Posted by: Wulff Blitzer at October 03, 2008 05:44 PM (1g+FW) 14
And me
Posted by: Tom Bokaw at October 03, 2008 05:44 PM (1g+FW) 15
Me too
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 03, 2008 05:45 PM (1g+FW) 16
Yeah, I knew about this a few days ago. Figured it would never see the light of day. Probably won't. Posted by: Warden at October 03, 2008 05:45 PM (QoR4a) 17
The timing is rather interesting.... Frank met Moses in 1987, the same year he became the first openly gay member of Congress. The article doesn't say whether Frank and Moses were an item while Frank was carrying on with the male prosty that was running the escort service from his pad. It's not particularly relevant to the financial crisis, but it's definitely good for a laugh.The two lived together in a Washington home until they broke up in 1998, a few months after Moses ended his seven-year tenure at Fannie Mae, where he was the assistant director of product initiatives. So, did they break up because Moses had no further use for Frank? I'm just asking questions..... Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 03, 2008 05:45 PM (Ds4I5) 18
I'm still editing that Palin tape, thanks.
Posted by: Katie Couric at October 03, 2008 05:46 PM (1g+FW) 19
Just amazing.
I don't care who Barney Frank buttfucks... unless it leaves him in a conflict of interest where he pushes for policies that could tank the world economy and have already forced congress into voting for a $700 billion dollar bailout. Then I think it's other people's business. Posted by: Christoph at October 03, 2008 05:47 PM (hawOV) 20
I'm sorry I can't come to the phone right now I have Barney's dick in my mouth.
Posted by: Keith Olberman at October 03, 2008 05:47 PM (1g+FW) 21
Drudge is picking this up.
Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 03, 2008 05:48 PM (e2mBS) 22
I can't come to the phone either, I'm too busy wishing I had Barney Frank's dick in my mouth.
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at October 03, 2008 05:48 PM (1g+FW) Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 03, 2008 05:48 PM (Ds4I5) 24
And don't forget that Rahm Emanuel was on the fucking BOARD of Freddie Mac, between the time he left the White House and went to Congress in '02 (I assume but don't know that he had to quit then). How many million times were we reminded that Phil Gramm's wife was on the board at Enron? Posted by: buzz at October 03, 2008 05:49 PM (kwhut) 25
What? Hunh? Who? Can I just go back to sleep? All this journalism stuff makes my head hurt.
Posted by: Fred Barnes at October 03, 2008 05:49 PM (1g+FW) 26
What would be interesting to know is how much Moses income increased as a result of his "lover"
Posted by: topsecretk9 at October 03, 2008 05:50 PM (O+hJO) 27
This story is not good for my erection.
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at October 03, 2008 05:50 PM (mLhnS) 28
By the way, was getting biden to say that both he and obama oppose gay marriage a coup? That's the first time that I've heard it admitted to in public...
Posted by: Uncle Jefe at October 03, 2008 05:51 PM (xuO8w) 29
Of course there was not conflict of interest. They were both interested in butt fucking everyone.
Posted by: polynikes at October 03, 2008 05:51 PM (m2CN7) 30
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I don't care who Barney Frank buttfucks...
I don't see Barney being a top. DAMN YOU, DAMN YOU TO HELL. I JUST GOT THAT PICTURE IN MY HEAD YOU BASTARD. Posted by: JAFKIAC at October 03, 2008 05:51 PM (LcpIn) 31
Democrats are so deep shit on this deal, hence ZERO hearing and the press is so connect to this as well they are whistling right past it.
Posted by: topsecretk9 at October 03, 2008 05:51 PM (O+hJO) 32
A close personal friend who is on Capitol Hill and only talks to me in my head calls to inform me that I can go back to sleep and ignore all this because there is nothing at all to see here.
Posted by: Rich Lowry at October 03, 2008 05:52 PM (1g+FW) 33
BTW, I love me some flaming skull!
Posted by: Countrysquire at October 03, 2008 05:53 PM (mLhnS) 34
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Pelosi announced today there are going to be hearings. Wait for it, wait for it....Barney Frank will head the hearings. Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 03, 2008 05:55 PM (e2mBS) 35
Would any Democrats who didn't make a fortune off the FM twins please stand up?
(What? Oh, geez, oh what am I taking about? Stand up for Chuck!) Posted by: Stinky Esposito at October 03, 2008 05:55 PM (MMC8r) 36
"Fannie buddy"
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol ROFL much, MUCH better than the "screwing us up the ass" low hanging fruit. cheap, but still clever. kudos Posted by: moronizer at October 03, 2008 05:56 PM (p1s9n) Posted by: kal at October 03, 2008 06:00 PM (atUWl) 38
O Rly?
Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at October 03, 2008 06:00 PM (8nB5X) 39
I knew about this two weeks ago, but never got around to doing a post. I thought I tipped Ace. I guess not.
Posted by: Nice Deb at October 03, 2008 06:01 PM (YU9dz) 40
Well, it was ten years ago. How can you get any traction out of it now?
I just can't see how this story has any legs. Or am I missing something? Posted by: SlaveDog at October 03, 2008 06:02 PM (H6Jyg) 41
Like everyone else, I started doing websearches on Moses.
Gay Spouses In Congress Have Spousal Privileges Gay Spouses In Congress Have Spousal Privileges 06/25/1996
WASHINGTON -- In spite of a months-long Congressional campaign to ban federal recognition of gay marriage, Congress already provides official acknowledgment to the companions of its few openly gay members, the capital magazine Washingtonian reports. Here's what pricked up my ears.... The cards allow the men to park in official garages and move freely in and out of restricted areas. "This is to certify that the person whose name and photograph appear on the card is the spouse of the above named member of the United States House of Representatives," say the cards. Herb Moses, Frank's companion for nine years, was the first of the three to obtain a spouse ID card. He told the Washingtonian it was done for convenience and privacy, not for some grand political ideal. "I don't feel like having to explain myself to whoever may be minding the security of the perimeter," he told Washingtonian. Now, I really couldn't care less about who Frank's spouse is. But I'm curious as to whether this spousal access was used for lobbying in prohibited areas/situations. Does anyone know how the lobbying rules and spousal access rules stack up? Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 03, 2008 06:04 PM (Ds4I5) 42
Any thought of eating food has been erased. Guess I'm sticking to the barley & hops soup tonight. *gag* *cough* Posted by: 4HiminFL at October 03, 2008 06:04 PM (yIIb1) 43
Laura Ingraham has mentioned Barney's Fannie Friend several times n the last week.
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at October 03, 2008 06:07 PM (iIozB) 44
Did you say he was Barney's ass. director? How can I apply for that job?
Posted by: AndrewSOCSullivan at October 03, 2008 06:08 PM (fitKp) 45
I just can't see how this story has any legs. Or am I missing something?
I'd be interested if Barney profited financially from any bonuses or profits his boytoy had, particularly if his contributions (or impedance) to regulation made them larger or more likely. Posted by: Stinky Esposito at October 03, 2008 06:09 PM (MMC8r) 46
There is a lot of shit floating around congress's bowl... let it all be seen for what it is. Time to grease the seat and flush the toilet.
P.S. 69.9 million people watched Sarah last night, tied for the biggest debate audience ever. Posted by: A. Weasel at October 03, 2008 06:09 PM (bqcfE) 47
I've all ready got the job, Andy! I've all ready got it!
Posted by: Chris Matthews at October 03, 2008 06:10 PM (1g+FW) 48
40 Well, it was ten years ago. How can you get any traction out of it now? This story, on its own, I agree isn't much. But when added onto everything else, you have something. Now if McCain would just open the gates of hell on these fuckers... Posted by: Countrysquire at October 03, 2008 06:11 PM (mLhnS) 49
<i>P.S. 69.9 million people watched Sarah last night, tied for the biggest debate audience ever.</i>
Team McCain should plant a (true) story with the MSM that Palin will actually be at the debate Tuesday night (I think it's Tuesday?) That'll boost ratings for his debate. Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at October 03, 2008 06:12 PM (jGNc3) 50
The NRCC has a GREAT new ad out about Fannie and Freddie. I FUCKING HOPE this is a pre-cursor to what the McCain camp is going to do. I'm getting nervous that they're not going to hammer away this, but this at the very least is a good sign.
http://therighttobeararms.info/?p=535 The ad is called "What Just Happened." Posted by: Jay at October 03, 2008 06:13 PM (nhyPd) 51
Does the fucking press do NO SCRUTINIZING OR DIGGING even into the most basic facts about Democrats whatsoever? Ah, I love rhetorical questions. But just in case you really want to know, the answer is not just NO, BUT FUCK NO! Now move along, and leave the DECIDERS alone. Posted by: mikeyslaw at October 03, 2008 06:15 PM (QMGr1) Posted by: KBDaBear at October 03, 2008 06:16 PM (miw86) 53
ace, hang in there. keep plugging away. the great thing is that anything we find now will blow right before the election. i think the tide is turning on this freddie/fannie thing. keep putting it out there - and the word will get around. Posted by: ja at October 03, 2008 06:20 PM (iVJ0d) 54
"Well, it was ten years ago. How can you get any traction out of it now?"
I think it helps establish a pattern of ethic violations by Barney Frank that has continued to this day. Posted by: mark at October 03, 2008 06:20 PM (SUcpq) 55
Go down, Moses. (softly humming)
Posted by: lukemcgook at October 03, 2008 06:22 PM (1hkXr) 56
So exactly how did they meet? If I remember, Barn answered an ad in teh Washington Blade about a guy who was willing to be paid for action because he was "well endowed, and had a hot bottom." Oh, yeah, that was the guy that ran the hot, homo, hostel (for pay) in Barn's basement. Nevermind.
Posted by: Fierce Scorpion at October 03, 2008 06:24 PM (DE7cN) 57
I don't know, this looks disgusting but possibly too tenuous to get traction. Moreover, we need to connect Obama to the scandal and anger.
Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at October 03, 2008 06:28 PM (jGNc3) 58
MCCAIN STRATEGY - Hammer at this issue, and do so in just enough of a way that militant gay activists start saying that he is being "anti-gay". Then, redouble the effort. Force that type of despicable thinking to essentially stand up and tell the American people that, for them to be enraged about a trillion-dollar cluster fuck, is to be "anti-gay" (defacto racist). Get the activists saying that, and they will despite themselves, and then let it be known far and wide that that is what they are saying... and then open up a full bore artillery barrage on them, no holding back. Do it guys, you'll win. Trust me. (I know all) =:-O
Posted by: Andrew X at October 03, 2008 06:30 PM (nNZtS) 59
Ron Paul!1!11!
The Democrats will be hailing the arrival of Al Gore to save their bacon any minute now. Mark my words. Posted by: The Derb at October 03, 2008 06:31 PM (O7slj) 60
I don't know what good this is going to do.
You can't even understand a f*cking word this jackass says at any time let alone in this ad. Shoulda had closed captioning running when he blabbers. Posted by: Good Lt at October 03, 2008 06:31 PM (s9+Zr) 61
Is this why Gwen Ifill asked so much about gay marriage yesterday? And isn't a homophobe a gay guy who sounds like another gay guy? And was Barney speaking from a bar in Cleveland? Posted by: andycanuck at October 03, 2008 06:32 PM (Mhm4L) 62
Barney Frank's going down, and not the way he likes to go down either. Even the MSM can not ignore this forever. Posted by: joan at October 03, 2008 06:33 PM (xdoSQ) Posted by: hindmost at October 03, 2008 06:33 PM (BKlar) 64
I remember bitching about this during Clinton's presidency. Back then I was more libertarian than I am now. I did not see then that this would end in anything good.
Posted by: Have Blue at October 03, 2008 06:35 PM (WuPk/) 65
Politics means never having to say you're sorry.....for having a sitting senator's shit all over your junk, and tens of thousands of your dollars in his wallet. ~anon
Posted by: DngrMse at October 03, 2008 06:35 PM (3Kzp3) 66
#62....
Hard Hitting Expose' on Palin receiving a free bouquet of flowers while mayor of Wasilla in 10....9....8.... Posted by: DngrMse at October 03, 2008 06:37 PM (3Kzp3) 67
...Judy Woodruff and Jamie Gorelick are on the same Board of Trustees of the Urban Institute
Why does Jamie Gorelick's name keep popping up when ever there is a fuckup of monumental proportions ? Posted by: joan at October 03, 2008 06:37 PM (xdoSQ) 68
You just found out about this? Of course, as you know, we happen to have something in common. Posted by: Anne Hathaway at October 03, 2008 06:39 PM (+GRGs) 69
"It's like I'm taking crazy pills."
Posted by: mare at October 03, 2008 06:42 PM (X1fsj) 70
"Mr. straight talk...." Oh, I get it now. McCain is only tough with straights, not gays--explains everything.
Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at October 03, 2008 06:43 PM (jGNc3) 71
I knew about this all along but didn't remember it until this BMI article. Believe it or not I knew Herb Moses after he broke up with Barney. I know a lot about the relationship. And it isn't the only one that affected policy between House Democrats and Fannie Mae.
Posted by: rockmom at October 03, 2008 06:48 PM (iZqUY) 72
Barney Frank is a sad panda.
Posted by: OregonMuse at October 03, 2008 06:49 PM (FO+YO) 73
Limbaugh's been hammering on this for quite a bit. Barney & his friend are legend-waitforit-dary.
Posted by: Sharky at October 03, 2008 06:50 PM (1CHmN) 74
The right has for too long treated this as a policy debacle, which it is... but it is also something bigger, and it is time for a course change, and the Frank revelation is the perfect vehicle.
This is a SCANDAL It needs to be talked about as such. The words "Democratic" and "Scandal" need to start appearing in blog posts on a daily basis. Fannie Mae just imploded, taking taxpayers money. This is a SCANDAL Fannie Mae Democratic executives got rich while cooking the books. This is a SCANDAL. Democrats FORCED banks to make loans to people who couldn't afford them. this is a SCANDAL. Democrats got paid to protect Fannie Mae from regulation. This is a SCANDAL. Barney Frank had a sexual relationship with an executive from a company that it was HIS JOB TO REGULATE... This is a SCANDAL. The terms "Dept. of Justice" and "FBI" and "subpoena" need to start being used. The terms "Democratic bribery" and "Democratic crimes" and "Democratic ethical violations" need to be given traffic. If John McCain refuses to stand up and defend capitalism, the free market, Reganomics... no... let me put it in terms he should be able to understand. It is time for John McCain to stand up and defend THIS COUNTRY from the corruption of Democrats. Not bipartisanship first. COUNTRY first. Not reaching across the aisle first. COUNTRY first. Not "political correctness" first. COUNTRY first. If he doesn't, then he deserves to lose. Posted by: The Guvnah at October 03, 2008 06:55 PM (Rg8DN) Posted by: Ted K. at October 03, 2008 06:58 PM (LfNUQ) 76
Does the fucking press do NO SCRUTINIZING OR DIGGING even into the most basic facts about Democrats whatsoever?
Of course they do. They look for the slightest sign of conservative leanings, and if they find them, the person is outed and destroyed. Posted by: lmg at October 03, 2008 06:59 PM (A/vgC) 77
Frank, 58, declined to say why the relationship was over. The split was amicable, though "recently things changed some," Frank said in the Boston Globe.
Moses, 41, recently moved out of their home and left an executive position at the Federal National Mortgage Association to open a pottery studio. The Globe said he could not be reached for comment. In 1987 -- after allegations that he had had a relationship with Steven Gobie, a male prostitute -- Frank acknowledged his homosexuality publicly. The Massachusetts Democrat and Moses appeared inseparable for over a decade, attending White House dinners and other state functions. Posted by: Cedric at October 03, 2008 07:00 PM (rM8m0) 78
>>>I knew about this two weeks ago, but never got around to doing a post. I thought I tipped Ace. I guess not.
You may have. today I have four whole pages of tips on gmail. It's just not possible to get through them all. Posted by: ace at October 03, 2008 07:01 PM (1WR4H) Posted by: Fritz at October 03, 2008 07:01 PM (UU4Hu) 80
Not only was Barney Fwank fucking Moses, he was slipping the big kahuna to all the taxpayers. Disgusting faggot!
Posted by: Fish at October 03, 2008 07:02 PM (6Rihj) 81
Why does Jamie Gorelick's name keep popping up when ever there is a fuckup of monumental proportions ? Posted by: joan at October 03, 2008 06:37 PM (xdoSQ)
She is Satan's Forrest Gump, that's why. Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 03, 2008 07:07 PM (wgLRl) 82
Hey, remember how Larry Craig cost taxpayers $700 Billion?
Hey, remember how Mark Foley cost taxpayers $700 Billion? No? Yeah, I guess the term "scandal" might not quite adequately capture things this time. Posted by: The Guvnah at October 03, 2008 07:10 PM (Rg8DN) 83
Does the fucking press do NO SCRUTINIZING OR DIGGING even into the most basic facts about Democrats whatsoever? No. No they do not. Compare and contrast with they way the MSM has been pounding away at McCain's tenuous connection to Fannie and Freddie through Rick Davis' former lobbying firm. Posted by: Aldo at October 03, 2008 07:12 PM (sBRGc) Posted by: andycanuck at October 03, 2008 07:24 PM (Mhm4L) 85
In defense of the press, I don't think anyone is interested in probing Barney Frank's Fannie problem.
Posted by: Warden at October 03, 2008 07:24 PM (gwpwW) 86
Team McCain should plant a (true) story with the MSM that Palin will
actually be at the debate Tuesday night (I think it's Tuesday?)
That'll boost ratings for his debate.
She can sit in a chair beside McCain's lectern, legs crossed, looking admiringly up at him. Biden can do the same for Obama. Posted by: lmg at October 03, 2008 07:25 PM (A/vgC) 87
Barney Frank: Fannie May I?
Posted by: Son of a Pig and a Monkey at October 03, 2008 07:27 PM (KwoXV) 88
Shut up......SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!! You are talking about THE MOST ETHICAL CONGRESS EVERRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 03, 2008 07:29 PM (CiVat) Posted by: DngrMse at October 03, 2008 07:31 PM (3Kzp3) 90
I really think at this point that we need to put a 'rasoir national' in the bed of a pickup truck and just drive it in slow circles around the Capitol (well, as close as you can get to it) all day long.
Posted by: mrkwong at October 03, 2008 07:32 PM (G8Eo0) 91
Damn...Barney's got *biblical* levels of power. He parted Moses.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at October 03, 2008 07:42 PM (hCSTJ) 92
cross-posted at Rantburg with a link and proper accreditation to Ace for "Fannie Buddy"
Posted by: Frank G at October 03, 2008 07:59 PM (P0rQD) 93
See, I know who Bristol Palin is. Why on the HELL would I know who she is. I had little, fucking little, idea of who Chelsea was, and really, had no clue about Bush's daughters, or Cheney's. The media decided that Palin's kids were more important than any of those children, PLUS her kids were more important than keeping up with this shit. They never fucking talk about Frank's fucked up life, it is Friday the 13th level of fucked up, yet nothing. Not a fucking word. But Bristol. We need to care about who she is fucking marrying. I used to hold some of those lamprey-faced suckholes in some regard...now, none of them, except people on fox who report this kind of shit. They rest of them don't care, in an arrogant dismissive asshole way. Posted by: Senator Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller at October 03, 2008 08:00 PM (vFeQi) 94
Somebody needs to ask whether Barney helped Herb get his job at Fannie Mae, and why Fannie Mae fired him right after he and Barney broke up. There is enough evidence, if anyone cares to investigate, that Fannie Mae kept Moses on the payroll only because he was shacking up with Barney. And Barney had no problem with this. It was well known in Washington that Fannie Mae was one of the companies most friendly to employment of gays. Lots and lots of them in jobs at all levels. Posted by: rockmom at October 03, 2008 08:03 PM (iZqUY) 95
"The Guvnah" Howie Carr, is that you? Whoever you are, Fuckinn' ay! SCANDAL! DEMOCRAT SCANDAL OF THE CENTURIES!!! Vim Toot! Posted by: Mica Vim Toot at October 03, 2008 08:15 PM (Q0VRs) 96
By the way, the first anagram that pops up for "Barney Frank" is........... Fanny Barker Really. Vim Toot! Posted by: Mica Vim Toot at October 03, 2008 08:17 PM (Q0VRs) 97
It's time for a special prosecutor appointment with a charter of investigating Fannie/Freddie, HUD, and Congressional members charged with oversight of these agencies. This should be treated as a financial Watergate. The public would welcome an investigation and naming of names of those involved in bringing this country to the brink of financial armageddon.
Posted by: Scott Wiggins at October 03, 2008 08:20 PM (fNmM1) 98
<q>74
The right has for too long treated this as a policy debacle, which it
is... but it is also something bigger, and it is time for a course
change, and the Frank revelation is the perfect vehicle.
This is a SCANDAL It needs to be talked about as such. The words "Democratic" and "Scandal" need to start appearing in blog posts on a daily basis. Fannie Mae just imploded, taking taxpayers money. This is a SCANDAL Fannie Mae Democratic executives got rich while cooking the books. This is a SCANDAL. Democrats FORCED banks to make loans to people who couldn't afford them. this is a SCANDAL. Democrats got paid to protect Fannie Mae from regulation. This is a SCANDAL. Barney Frank had a sexual relationship with an executive from a company that it was HIS JOB TO REGULATE... This is a SCANDAL. The terms "Dept. of Justice" and "FBI" and "subpoena" need to start being used. The terms "Democratic bribery" and "Democratic crimes" and "Democratic ethical violations" need to be given traffic. If John McCain refuses to stand up and defend capitalism, the free market, Reganomics... no... let me put it in terms he should be able to understand. It is time for John McCain to stand up and defend THIS COUNTRY from the corruption of Democrats. Not bipartisanship first. COUNTRY first. Not reaching across the aisle first. COUNTRY first. Not "political correctness" first. COUNTRY first. If he doesn't, then he deserves to lose.</q> Don't hold your breath for McCain to say anything about it... Posted by: thebronze at October 03, 2008 08:30 PM (YlH3h) Posted by: thebronze at October 03, 2008 08:31 PM (YlH3h) 100
This sperm gargler dumped his boyfriend who was running a gay prostitution ring out of a K-6 elementary school for a Fannie Mae Exec? That's what you call a parallel trade.
Posted by: Curtis at October 03, 2008 08:34 PM (nKUMV) 101
"Moses was the assistant director for product initiatives at Fannie Mae and had been at the forefront of relaxing lending restrictions at the company for rural customers, according to the Feb. 23, 1998, issue of National Mortgage News (NMN)."
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at October 03, 2008 08:41 PM (iIozB) 102
Hey, had to pop back in to remind you that Sarah Palin's kinda dumb. And McCain's gonna lose.
Posted by: Fred Barnes at October 03, 2008 08:42 PM (xyyHG) 103
What Fred said!
Posted by: Charles Krauthammer at October 03, 2008 08:43 PM (xyyHG) 104
I just sent Juan a message via his website. I don't really give a fuck if nobody near the top sees it, it just felt good to tell them how much they are screwing the pooch.
My decision about who to vote for would be so easy if I lived in a state that wasn't going to be close. If the polls show that McCain has no chance in NM come Nov. 4th, I'll be voting for some minor party candidate. Posted by: rockhead at October 03, 2008 09:01 PM (DvaIL) 105
Frank needs to be investigated and bounced out of congress and into jail for his corruption. This needs to happen NOW.
I can't believe this goes on and these fuckers are still in office. Posted by: BillyBob at October 03, 2008 09:31 PM (v9vTw) 106
Let me guess...this becomes a scandal on....November 6....
Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at October 03, 2008 09:35 PM (Jwex8) Posted by: topsecretk9 at October 03, 2008 09:35 PM (O+hJO) 108
Herb Moses--shanda ;-(
Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at October 03, 2008 09:56 PM (Jwex8) 109
Does it seem like there's a whole lot of fuckin' in da ass goin' on?
Posted by: Dang at October 03, 2008 10:02 PM (XFyLb) 110
Damn. Save the flaming skull for stuff that really matters. Duckman seasons 1&2 are out on DVD. What the hell are *you* looking at? Posted by: Lex Luthor at October 03, 2008 10:03 PM (YYanS) 111
Well, Ace, we've now received word of why McCain WON'T be attacking the Dems over CRA/FM/FM. You are mentioned in it, by the way:
http://tinyurl.com/3lf8xa So, we're screwed, and in light of this reticence, the odds the CRA will be overturned are exactly zero. Anything you'd like to say? Qwinn Posted by: Qwinn at October 03, 2008 10:33 PM (3FVXC) Posted by: blaster at October 03, 2008 10:54 PM (KpEAZ) Posted by: ace at October 03, 2008 11:22 PM (1WR4H) 114
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