Noonan: "She Killed"

Posted by: Ace at 12:03 AM

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1 Oh NOES!

Posted by: blogRot at October 03, 2008 12:11 AM (cXviw)

2 The New Great Communicator?

Kind of a reach, but I like the way it sounds.

Posted by: mesablue at October 03, 2008 12:13 AM (5yNaE)

3 Dowdify this.

Posted by: EnochF at October 03, 2008 12:13 AM (VXm6y)

4 She may be exaggerating a wee bit. But point taken.

Posted by: Ron Paul at October 03, 2008 12:14 AM (PGzrn)

5 Peggy Noonan is not getting invited the my brunches anymore!
Bitch!
I can't believe I had to watch this debate in an airport bar.

Posted by: Maureen Dowd at October 03, 2008 12:16 AM (7rbe9)

6 I didn't see it that way (Noonan's), but as soon as I saw the reaction by the pundits on CNN, they seemed pretty positive about Palin's performance over all which encouraged me a little.

Gwen Ifell is dead to me.

Up until this moment in my life I had no problem with her.

Now I disdain her. Not only was she biased, which is one thing, corrupt in not disclosing her Obama book coming out on inauguration day for another, but she sucked ass and stumbled over her words. She looked like a fool.

If anyone lost the debate, I thought it was Ifell.

Posted by: Christoph at October 03, 2008 12:16 AM (hawOV)

7 Yes, but what did Peggy say when she though the cameras were off?

Posted by: Bart at October 03, 2008 12:16 AM (mlzcK)

8 Whatever, Peggy. I stopped caring about what you think or trusting your sincerity when you crapped on Sarah last month.

Posted by: Kensington at October 03, 2008 12:19 AM (xFNQx)

9 Noonan is still dead to me after her amazingly stupid judgment on that open-mic subject. She's just trying to cover up for that. Noonan can bite the big one.

Posted by: Sydney Carton at October 03, 2008 12:21 AM (6N71/)

10 Fuck you Peggy. Your cunt's like a old worn out moccasin.

Posted by: LtE113(Mike in Chicago) at October 03, 2008 12:22 AM (/L1AV)

Chris Matthews was slapping Roger Simon around for saying that Palin won. How dare he come to MSNBC and go against "the One".

Posted by: Joe NYC at October 03, 2008 12:25 AM (pK9zD)

12 In other news......

Dodgers = Palin
Cubs = Biden

Posted by: dan-O at October 03, 2008 12:27 AM (AEBFS)

13 guys, peggy noonan isn't really on the team anymore, but that open mic thing is misreported.

She was talking, she says, of the standard Old White Guy Grey Eminence Establishment sort of Republicanism being over. "It's Over!" referred to that, and how the Palin pick had broken that.

What evidence does she have? THIS -- the tapes provided by MSNBC's little communists were heavily edited to only include her saying "IT's OVER" out of context. They have not release the tapes that would prove or disprove noonan's word.

So what do you think the truth is?

Mike Murphy,who appeared with her (and was down on palin,and admits it) supports Noonan's account.

Posted by: ace at October 03, 2008 12:28 AM (1WR4H)

14 "Your cunt's like a old worn out moccasin."

Mmmm. Try it with moose fat.

Posted by: Christoph at October 03, 2008 12:28 AM (hawOV)

15 I don't care what Noonan says anymore, but it's nice of her to stand up for Republicans with her cocktail friends.

I love the shit outta Palin, though.

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Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at October 03, 2008 12:29 AM (4KSmZ)

17 Did anyone catch the almost throw-away line Palin used when asked about changing positions?

"Well you know I've only been at this what, five weeks? So you know I haven't needed to ..."

The message seems to have sunk in with some of the commentators. She's covered in these five weeks the ground it took Obama 18 months to get to, and McCain and Biden have been steeped in for decades.

Posted by: Vern at October 03, 2008 12:29 AM (5tcj3)

18 Bullshit, Peggy. It's over.

Enjoy living outside TEH POWER when McCain and Palin get elected. Your political career is bullshit slash over, along with Kathleen Parker's and David Frum's.

Posted by: Jim62sch at October 03, 2008 12:30 AM (ubHgw)

19 All right, Ace, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.

On a side note to Kathleen Parker: if you're typing up that mea culpa/reconsideration of whether Palin should resign? Stick it. Not interested.

Posted by: Kensington at October 03, 2008 12:31 AM (xFNQx)

20 "She killed."

She killed salmon.

She killed deer.

She killed elk.

She killed caribou.

She killed moose.

She killed Biden.

She killed doubts about her competence.

She killed ....

Posted by: notropis at October 03, 2008 12:31 AM (WG6af)

Lets rock the poll at MSNBC

When i voted it was

52% Biden

38% Palin

4.3% Tie

5.9% not sure

Posted by: Cromagnum at October 03, 2008 12:31 AM (j5MnB)

22 ""Well you know I've only been at this what, five weeks? So you know I haven't needed to ..."

The message seems to have sunk in with some of the commentators. She's covered in these five weeks the ground it took Obama 18 months to get to, and McCain and Biden have been steeped in for decades.

"

@ 17: yeah, that was an awesome line. Her delivery was, overall, excellent. Dare I say, a CHANGE, over what dirty ol' joe was hustling.

Posted by: kal at October 03, 2008 12:32 AM (5j/Xg)

23 Are you the Sydney Carton from CAEI?

Yes, though I don't read that blog anymore.

Posted by: Sydney Carton at October 03, 2008 12:32 AM (6N71/)

24 How's my ass taste, Peggy?

Posted by: Sarah (single name) at October 03, 2008 12:33 AM (p4YSL)

Ya gotta wonder if Noonan hates Palin because she is the antithesis of Noonan. Noonan, a dried up spinster hag who prolly can't remember what a blue veiner looks like if she's ever seen one. Apartment littered with yellowed copies of WSJ and reeking of cat-piss.

Palin, a woman in full. Fulfilled her biological imperative in prodigious manner, and still getting laid on a regular basis. A successful career in politics. Married to a real man.

Posted by: turtle at October 03, 2008 12:35 AM (ZiZaA)

26 I'm with Ace on this one, I don't think Peggy is too bad. After all we got that info from the MSM, and everything they tell me is suspect. Even if I take it at face value, I tend to give people breaks. I am voting for McCain after all.

K

Posted by: Kestrel♠ at October 03, 2008 12:37 AM (uQrm7)

27 Objectively, though, I think Peggy Noonan's analysis here is completely correct. I wish I could've seen the reaction of that other talking head guy. What's his name? I don't watch whatever channel this is so I really don't recognize him.

Posted by: Sydney Carton at October 03, 2008 12:39 AM (6N71/)

28 @ Pete @ 16

That reminds me of the lamp from A Christmas Story.

Posted by: RedFox84 at October 03, 2008 12:39 AM (vs8h/)

29 I think the words "She killed" would carry more weight had I not heard the off-mike words, "It's over" a while back.

That said, I was quite dispirited prior to Mrs. Palin tonight. I believe Mrs. Palin's best contribution to the ticket is keeping guys like me from just giving up and letting the other side win. Optimism was Mr. Reagan's secret weapon. Thank you, Mrs. Palin, for giving me optimism.

Posted by: steve poling at October 03, 2008 12:40 AM (UWHTf)

30 18 Bullshit, Peggy. It's over.

Enjoy living outside TEH POWER when McCain and Palin get elected. Your political career is bullshit slash over, along with Kathleen Parker's and David Frum's.

Posted by: Jim62sch at October 03, 2008 12:30 AM (ubHgw)

don't forget that douchebag Rod Dreher, or that bitch Heather MacDonald

Posted by: funky chicken at October 03, 2008 12:40 AM (xyyHG)

Great. Now can we she what she really thought? Do they have any tape of the commercial break?

Why would Peggy Noonan appear once again on the network the killed her career? Oh yea because they killed her career and she has no where else to go.

Posted by: Ralph at October 03, 2008 12:41 AM (QZjCr)

32 Ace, did you catch Biden's comment about letting bankruptcy courts change the interest AND PRINCIPAL rates on mortgage loans?

"IFILL: Sen. Biden, you voted for this bankruptcy bill. Sen. Obama voted against it. Some people have said that mortgage- holders really paid the price.

BIDEN:

...John McCain said as early as last December, quote -- I'm paraphrasing -- "I'm surprised about this subprime mortgage crisis," number one.

Number two, with regard to bankruptcy now, Gwen, what we should be doing now -- and Barack Obama and I support it -- we should be allowing bankruptcy courts to be able to re-adjust not just the interest rate you're paying on your mortgage to be able to stay in your home, but be able to adjust the principal that you owe, the principal that you owe.

That would keep people in their homes, actually help banks by keeping it from going under. But John McCain, as I understand it -- I'm not sure of this, but I believe John McCain and the governor don't support that.

Posted by: Mystery Meat at October 03, 2008 12:41 AM (OzlqN)

steve polling, and that's why you will see the astroturfers out in force, saying "she did great! but it's too late, they're gonna lose anyway"

I see them at several sites already

Posted by: funky chicken at October 03, 2008 12:46 AM (xyyHG)

34 Sydney:

I left for a full year (K the C). Got tired of the unhinged hate. I discovered it was hurting my relationship with the Church. That's when I had to go.

I went back recently. He's dialed it back a little bit, but there's a pox-on-both-your-houses attitude that I don't have time for.

Anyway, glad to see you're well. FYI: I was a SA at WFGDC before you joined in NY, but I'm not there anymore.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at October 03, 2008 12:47 AM (4KSmZ)

35 "quote -- I'm paraphrasing"

Damn, if Bush said this....

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37 M. Pete,

Wow, small world. Nice to see you again.

FYI: I was a SA at WFGDC before you joined in NY, but I'm not there anymore.

(jaw on the floor) Holy moly, it IS a small world...

And with that, it's bedtime for me. Later!

Posted by: Sydney Carton at October 03, 2008 01:02 AM (6N71/)

A dandy display for all Women. Sarah Palin just shocked the old Senate Establishment, and certainly made Joe Biden appear painfully elite, tired, aged, boring, bitter, etc.

Gov. Palin did very well and really shined.

Sarah gave the McCain Camp a big positive, after several weeks of negatives which were ironically created by Senator John McCain.

But the vivid MCCAIN mantra which includes endless McCain praise, with no Democrat criticism and absolutely no Republican acclaim, remains a huge problem. McCain does this often on his own. He likes to say, “I know how to win a war…” But I really doubt if these are strategic powerhouses in an election.

The Democrat Ticket is pounding the Republican Party, often via the Bush Administration, and the McCain Camp seems to think it can just ignore it, or even accept it.

It seems they will stick with a strategy that completely runs from the positives of the Bush Administration and the entire Republican Party - while failing to correctly identify some of the severe problems with the Liberal Democrat Party, now identified with Obama. But in the process they seem to be (unwittingly or not) ceding many sound issues, which were embraced by John McCain, and cannot be separated from McCain. I feel they are missing the opportunity to change the tenure and perception in the Country, which will help them win the Election.

Posted by: hnav at October 03, 2008 01:07 AM (3UgGF)

39 Overstatement. Palin did fine, not great.

Posted by: W.C. Varones at October 03, 2008 01:12 AM (v73ls)

40 Is Peggy trying to get back in our good graces? I don't think so, Peggy.

Posted by: SukieTawdry at October 03, 2008 01:35 AM (QawxF)

"He said quote...and I'm paraphrasing"

The media was almost right. There was a really stupid person up there on stage tonight. They were just a few feet off on who it was

Posted by: Ted K. at October 03, 2008 01:37 AM (LfNUQ)

42 "Is Peggy trying to get back in our good graces? I don't think so, Peggy."

Well, if Ace's interpretation of how that really went down (Peggy's "it's over" comment) is true, I can give Peggy a break.

But Kathleen Parker? Calling on Palin to resign and giving the Left something to flog for a whole month before the election? Dead to me, even if she comes to her senses/cynically reads the writing on the wall.

Screw you, Kathleen.

Posted by: Kensington at October 03, 2008 01:39 AM (xFNQx)

43 Final debate score:

Palin: 82
Biden: 18
Ifell: 0, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: Merovign at October 03, 2008 02:25 AM (UXoQt)

44 Did anyone but me notice Senator Biden admitted that Barack Obama can't make a decision without him? It was near the end when they both were talking about what their respective adminstrations would be like - Joe Biden's whole theme looked to me to be, "Obama won't make a choice without me in the room". So, he's Barack Brain now?

Shouldn't this be a talking point?

Posted by: Rodney at October 03, 2008 02:58 AM (6ZxXC)

45 Is it just me, or does Peggy look like a sad lady at the bar talking about the time her husband ran over the dog with the RV?

Posted by: Thea at October 03, 2008 03:39 AM (N0hv7)

46 All the polls and the liberal blogs seem to think Biden won the debate. Must've watched a different debate than I did. I think Palin took it, and at worst it was a draw. There's no way Biden "cleaned her clock" as I have heard it described in the punditry.

I don't really care what Peggy's opinion is on the subject.

Posted by: Dr. Medical at October 03, 2008 06:54 AM (NZfvn)

47 Peggy, "Welcome to the party, pal."

Posted by: nikkolai at October 03, 2008 07:51 AM (G8d+5)

48 Did Biden have "forbearance and patience", or 40mg of Valium?

Posted by: Chas at October 03, 2008 08:15 AM (tf4qU)

49 Palin, a woman in full. Fulfilled her biological imperative in prodigious manner Ummm, 5 kids is considered a nice start. Double digits is prodigious.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 03, 2008 10:05 AM (hi25E)

I take a Peggy Noonan endorsement as a bad sign for Pain. Does anybody really take Noonan seriously? She rambles like an idiot and I can't stand her meandering between twenty different topics.

If I heard the bum on the corner talking up McCain in between hits of the crack pipe I'd consider that a sign he's a bad canidate.
Similar thing with Noonan.

Posted by: YT at October 03, 2008 10:24 AM (6plSM)

Palin, a woman in full. Fulfilled her biological imperative in prodigious manner, and still getting laid on a regular basis. A successful career in politics. Married to a real man.

I give Peggy Noonan the benefit of the doubt and this dried up spinster stuff is really a harsh thing to say about any woman. I save my invective for the likes of Pelosi or Jaime Gorelick or Barney Frank whom I truly despise. Has anyone noticed that Gorelick's fingerprints seem to be all over every disaster that's occurred in the last decade or so ?

Posted by: joan at October 03, 2008 02:35 PM (3SIDD)

Hey, I'm glad she said it.

But her opinion doesn't mean a thing to me anymore. A long time ago it occurred to me she loves the sound of her own voice and whatever drama she can attach to her words.

She likes BO. No wonder. Another phony and kindred spirit.

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