McCain Holding Back on Fannie and Freddie? Um... Wait For It

No confirmation on this, no tip, no hint.

But I know what he's doing.

John McCain is waiting until the bill passes.

And then he will unleash the dogs of war.

And he will say, "I stayed away from making these partisan attacks, even though you lied ridiculously about me and your own attempts at 'reform.' I held back, because partisan attacks -- even truthful ones -- would harm our country and reduce the chances of getting a vital bill passed.

"Well, the bill is now passed. I put country first. You didn't, and you lied on top of that. And now -- only now that this crisis has been dealt with, to the extent we can -- I'm going to give you a bit of straight-talk about Fannie, Freddie, my attempts to reform it, and your attempts to block reform on behalf of your big donors and friends in ACORN."

Count on it.

Posted by: Ace at 11:22 PM

Comments

1 i pray to God you're right...

Posted by: anonymous at October 02, 2008 11:24 PM (Vwqdb)

2 I've been thinking this for awhile. Nancy Pelosi gave that garbage speech right before the vote, and McCain doesn't want to be be that guy.

I have a feeling as soon as the bailout passes, he come out guns-a-blazin'.

Posted by: embittered redleg at October 02, 2008 11:24 PM (STIoS)

3 That is exactly what I was thinking.

Posted by: Percopius at October 02, 2008 11:25 PM (LrEiX)

4 It'd be nice. It'd be nicer if he was relentless.

Posted by: Z Ryan at October 02, 2008 11:25 PM (PDeVA)

5 Ace, if that really happens, I'll apologize and admit I was wrong. -Even if it fails-, if he at least -makes a serious effort-, I'll admit I was wrong.

But I don't think it's gonna happen. He'll mention it, but he's not going to make it anything like the "dogs of hell" or central to his campaign, which he should.

Qwinn

Posted by: Zombie Qwinn at October 02, 2008 11:25 PM (3FVXC)

6 Possible. I mean, I hope that's the plan.

But Rush, today, said that McCain won't do that because it means that McCain would have to call out Democrats; McCain only calls out Republicans. Rush was being facetious, of course. But still...what has history taught us about McMaverick?

Posted by: Bart at October 02, 2008 11:26 PM (mlzcK)

7 I too hope to hear that, too. Otherwise we in The Stupid Party are just voting for McDole/Palin next month.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at October 02, 2008 11:26 PM (9p0nw)

8 McCain is a fighter pilot. He won't open fire until Obama is squarely in his gunsights. And when he does, Obama will go down in a plume of smoke.

Posted by: Tushar at October 02, 2008 11:26 PM (PTWes)

9 Let's hope so. I'm still waiting for Bush to defend Scooter Libby and the 2003 State of the Union address.

Posted by: bgates at October 02, 2008 11:26 PM (CFjXn)

10 If I could count on McCain mounting any kind of strong attack I wouldn't worry about the GOP losing this election.

Especially attacking vote fraud or ACORN or the communist housing policies of the Dems. No freaking way will he!

Posted by: kad77 at October 02, 2008 11:26 PM (B5RxW)

11 I really hope your are right and that the pitbull leads the charge.

Posted by: JAFKIAC at October 02, 2008 11:26 PM (fygSG)

12 This is too nuanced for even me, and I'm totally in the tank for McCain.

No one's going to pay attention to this line of attack. Zippy chance it gets through the MSM filter.

You know what would be better than voting for the bill, then making some kind of highly technical Fannie Mae attack that no one will understand? NOT voting for this shitty bill, and making hay about what a shit taco it is.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at October 02, 2008 11:27 PM (4KSmZ)

13 Zombie Qwinn, Sarah's performance can reawaken the dead. Consider yourself reborn.

Posted by: Tushar at October 02, 2008 11:27 PM (PTWes)

14 Great. Then who in the Kingdom of Living Fuck is gonna buy my book?

Posted by: Gwen Ifill at October 02, 2008 11:27 PM (z4EdS)

15 I'll be happy to take back everything I thought in the first half of the debate about Palin not articulating conservative principles well enough. I would be very pleased to be wrong. She was better in many ways, but I was looking for specific things that I didn't see until the second half. However, browsing with PoliViews for immediate reactions from the lefty blogs convinced me that something good happened tonight.

Posted by: ArrMatey at October 02, 2008 11:27 PM (35LYA)

16 Yep, hope you're right.

Posted by: 'Tis I at October 02, 2008 11:27 PM (nZ38S)

17 Please be right Ace. Please.

Posted by: n00b at October 02, 2008 11:28 PM (pmOA3)

18 Ace - if I address you by name, Ace, will you recognize me and talk to me, Ace?

I'm desperate for your recognition, Ace. Please acknowledge me, Ace. No one does. I need you to recognize me.

Please?

Posted by: Diderot's dog at October 02, 2008 11:28 PM (nrD02)

Hope you are right there, sport!

It has been frustrating with every fooker blaming Bush for everything and no one pointing finger where the blame actually is - Dems in the Congress and the fat cat execs who contributed to the Dems while pocketing millions. It is time McCain started acting tough on his opponents instead of trying to be their friend and pissing on "wall street" all the time. He should point out that the wall st execs are actually obama (or Dodd, Schumer, Barney) contributors.

Posted by: Rex at October 02, 2008 11:28 PM (iXcho)

20 I love this. CBS, ABC, it's not so easy to carefully edit a LIVE debate, is it?

Posted by: Z Ryan at October 02, 2008 11:28 PM (PDeVA)

21 That's what we all hope. Do you have any special knowledge? Is that what he is going to do? McCain seems very adverse to attacking democrats.

Posted by: Ralph at October 02, 2008 11:28 PM (QZjCr)

22 But Rush, today, said that McCain won't do that because it means that McCain would have to call out Democrats; McCain only calls out Republicans. Rush was being facetious, of course. But still...what has history taught us about McMaverick?

Heh, facetious. McCain is famous for slaying Republicans and siding with Dems. Of course, now he touts that as an asset...

Posted by: kad77 at October 02, 2008 11:29 PM (B5RxW)

23 Oh please John, do it. Stare at him unblinking, with your mangled arm lifted high, your craggy finger pointing at, lay this whole mess at the feet of the democrats.

Posted by: Percopius at October 02, 2008 11:29 PM (LrEiX)

24 ace, if you're right, mccain will unleash his fury at tuesday's debate. but what if pelosi knows this and puts the bill to a vote without having all the votes needed?! hmmm...

Posted by: anna at October 02, 2008 11:29 PM (AA6vI)

I want to believe, I really do. But this is McCain and when it comes to attacking Democrats, he always pulls his punches. I want to think that now is different, that he's serious about winning, but unless somethng starts happening I won't believe it.

Posted by: M�tenloch at October 02, 2008 11:29 PM (1lhPq)

26 God I hope so. It would be awesome if he was as forceful with the attacks as your example.

Posted by: brak at October 02, 2008 11:30 PM (h/4lt)

Disagree. To attack the bill would be to attack Democrats, and we all know McCain only urinates on conservatives, like the House Republicans.

Plus, it's only coming to the floor if they have enough votes. So if you don't see it up first thing in the morning, you can bet it's dead again.

Best regards

Posted by: ATNorth at October 02, 2008 11:30 PM (fg/R5)

28 She purposely did not mention Fan/Fred so as not to poison the water for tomorrow's House vote....Country First.....wait until the bill becomes law...Barney Frank's on suicide watch after his ass whoopin' on O'Reilly tonight.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 02, 2008 11:30 PM (L8jeB)

29 Sorry Ace, I don't buy it. That bus is already two blocks down the street. As much as I would like to see it, I just don't see how McCain can walk that issue back.

Posted by: Charles Hamilton at October 02, 2008 11:31 PM (PfNJr)

30 Ace is right. Time and time again, when McCain is silent, it's because he's chewing something juicy and meaty, and doesn't want to get it on you until you're ready.

-----------------------------------------
Joe Biden - saying voters in Wilmington, DE have been getting screwed over for 36 years.

Posted by: vinman at October 02, 2008 11:31 PM (idc+/)

31 I don't know -- time is getting short, both in terms of campaigning and dealing with the fiscal crisis. It's certainly not a given that the latest bailout bill will pass; and that even if it passes both houses and gets W.'s autograph, that it will actually solve the problem.

It may well be that the McCain is "saving" this issue for late in the campaign in order to use it against whatever "October surprise" the Donks are planning. But if the financial ship sinks lower in the water and the bill fails to get enough votes, McCain will have to go on the attack regardless.

Posted by: Monty at October 02, 2008 11:31 PM (dCZbI)

32 Ace is totally right on this.
He should ask to Obama produce his famous letter to the Secretary too.

"While, Obama was writing letters I was writing legislation....."

Bring the awesome Johnny, bring it.

Posted by: Rocks at October 02, 2008 11:31 PM (7rbe9)

33 My informal poll is running 9:1 against Ace's posit.

Posted by: kad77 at October 02, 2008 11:31 PM (B5RxW)

34 Another thing McCain can throw in. Barry, you voted against the bailout, Joe voted for it. Aren't you guys a TEAM? What's with that. You guys going to go out and campaign at one place you were for the bailout and another that you were against it?

WHY DIDN'T BOTH OF YOU JUST VOTE PRESENT?

Posted by: GarandFan at October 02, 2008 11:32 PM (eJ32B)

35 ?

Posted by: Diderot's dog at October 02, 2008 11:32 PM (nrD02)

36 Hey, Obvious and booben? Can you tell me who said this?

AND THE WINNER IS
Sarah Palin won this debate and puts the campaign in a great position to rail against the media. Whatever she did before this debate � prayed? � is what she should always fall back on. And my impression is what she does. And why she�s come so far so fast.

Sarah Palin is the breath of fresh air on the political scene so many hoped she is. And she�ll be honored to beat the guy who�s been in the Senate since she was in the second grade.

Posted by: XBradTC at October 02, 2008 11:32 PM (n73wJ)

37 I totally agree with this premise Ace and even though I've been frustrated he's not using the most obvious line about the reforms he offered in 2005, I started to believe he's holding them back for this moment. Stopping his campaign to go back to DC, saying country first, and holding back so far in both debates might be a part of the overall stratedgy. I also believe he would normally not want to unload on the dems, sometimes even going after repubs harder than he would dems, but things are different this year. First of all, his love affair with the MSM is over, and Palin took a nasty swipe at them tonight. I also think she and McCain will continue to do this against the MSM and I honestly think the second this bill passes....he and Palin come out with the gloves off and made this crisi the pinnacle of his campaign.

Posted by: USAFDave at October 02, 2008 11:32 PM (4DWV5)

38 I hope you're right too. If he and the RNC don't do everything they can to nail the Demos with this between the passage of the bill and the election, then f-'em I'll be changing my party affiliation to "none of the above".

Posted by: rockhead at October 02, 2008 11:32 PM (DvaIL)

39 Charles Hamilton, McCain already has an ad on it in some states.

I think he's chompin' at the bit on it too.

Posted by: Rocks at October 02, 2008 11:33 PM (7rbe9)

40 Christmas in October.

Posted by: Some Dude at October 02, 2008 11:34 PM (+dnnZ)

41 Remember in the primary when McCain was crucified, dead, and buried? Will it happen again?

Posted by: profligatewaste at October 02, 2008 11:34 PM (s65nF)

42 If only. And even if he did take this tack, which outlets would support him? He'd need at least 3 separate 527 groups on top of Fox News and the radio talk shows.

Posted by: EnochF at October 02, 2008 11:34 PM (VXm6y)

43 spank me! spank me, mommy Obama!

Posted by: Diderot's dog at October 02, 2008 11:35 PM (nrD02)

44 Ace:

I know this is the thinking but I also believe that you are projecting what you would do. McCain has never shown that he will call out his colleagues in the Senate and House, unless of course they happen to be Republicans. When he does he does not do as specifically as is required here.

Lord I hope you are correct but as I said in another post, the public's attention is often set early when the public first pay attention to something. By sitting on the side taking the hits and not hitting back you are letting the die cast against you. It is difficult to change opinion once it becomes common thinking.

If McCain did not want to do it that is fine. He could have let Palin do it and be sufficiently detached. This debate had huge interest.

Brian

Posted by: Brian J at October 02, 2008 11:35 PM (mIIhL)

45 Somewhere over the skies of America.

USS Reagan: 5 minutes to intercept.
Red Lead: Roger that.

Posted by: Margaret Cho at October 02, 2008 11:35 PM (uQrm7)

46 I've been telling people this since the first debate.

McCain would rather lose a debate the bollix the chances of passing a bailout plan.

Fannie/Freddie/ACORN is the 800 pound strap-on in the room. McCain needs to use it.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at October 02, 2008 11:36 PM (4ZOxD)

I agree with Ace, I mean it's amazing the lies that the Obama campaign is getting away with about Fannie and Freddie, but he's waiting, and if the bill is passed by Tuesday, it comes out guns blazing.

Posted by: Gov98 at October 02, 2008 11:36 PM (FuLWJ)

48 I'm not as optimistic as you are ace.

Posted by: DaveS at October 02, 2008 11:36 PM (PGzrn)

49 Ace,
don't tease me like this. You actually believe Mac will stop triangulating us and the media? I will have to see it. I believe most Americans are wanting him to name names like he said he would.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 02, 2008 11:36 PM (e2mBS)

50 I can't wait for that shit storm to start. It's gonna be awesome. Seriously, beating the snot out of the Democrats on this issue will be amazing.

Posted by: Ack at October 02, 2008 11:37 PM (qhAlm)

51 stoopid sock puppets

Posted by: Kestrel♠ at October 02, 2008 11:37 PM (uQrm7)

52 I hope you're right, Ace. I also agree with #37, and hope this is the beginning of Mav/Palin running simultaneously against the MSM. I think it'll resonate with people, because people don't like being duped.

Unfortunately, the last 2 debates aren't going to get the coverage these first two did, so I'm not sure how he's going to speak past the media.

Posted by: Oedipus at October 02, 2008 11:38 PM (5Djkl)

53 I think the Dem's October surpise is more of what we're already seeing: lies, smears, sabotaging the economy and the effort in Iraq, and early-voter fraud.

I don't think the Dems have anything else to throw at McCain/Palin. And why should they? Their plan is working; Obama is ahead.

Posted by: Bart at October 02, 2008 11:38 PM (mlzcK)

54 I'm really, really into cock.

Just thought that needed to be said.

Posted by: Diderot's dog at October 02, 2008 11:38 PM (nrD02)

55 Gotta admit, I'm liking the Ace version of McCain better than the McCain Campaign version.

Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at October 02, 2008 11:39 PM (hM84y)

56 Ouch! Dick Morris just bitch-slapped Alan Colmes.

Posted by: profligatewaste at October 02, 2008 11:39 PM (s65nF)

57 WOW, just wow -- anyone hear Dick Morris going off on Holmes...holy shit.

Posted by: Cedric at October 02, 2008 11:39 PM (rM8m0)

58 Morris basically told Colmes to stop reading off the sheet that had been handed to him and to actually listen to what Morris said, or to get someone else on as a guest. It was epic.

Posted by: RedFox84 at October 02, 2008 11:40 PM (vs8h/)

59 OT: Dick Morris just ass raped Alan Colmes on Fox.

Posted by: jaleach at October 02, 2008 11:41 PM (gHrZU)

Diderot's dog:

Glad to see some semblance of sense in your second troll.

You first one was absolutely nutty, incoherent, and reeked of untreated mental illness.

Posted by: kad77 at October 02, 2008 11:41 PM (B5RxW)

61 If anyone gets that on YouTube, kindly link that.

Posted by: RedFox84 at October 02, 2008 11:41 PM (vs8h/)

62 Here I am again. Sayin' stupid shit that makes no sense. It's what I do.

Posted by: Diderot's dog at October 02, 2008 11:41 PM (nrD02)

63 McCain showed in the primary that you have to finish strong. He has plenty up his sleeve, and I suspect the Katie interview was set up for this. Because of the week of questioning her intelligence, this was the main event. The VP debate is usually ignored!

Posted by: PHenry at October 02, 2008 11:42 PM (VL3hj)

64 OH MY GOD Dick Morris just slapped Colmes down like a little bitch!

Posted by: Kestrel♠ at October 02, 2008 11:42 PM (uQrm7)

65 I was going to say you don't drop your bombs until you are over the target, but Tushar beat me to it with his "fighter pilot" observation in comment # 8.

Totally agree.

Posted by: Paul Gordon at October 02, 2008 11:43 PM (bWb6S)

66 Ace, thanks for finally stating the obvious. McCain's campaign will not address Fannie/Freddie until the bill is passed. I'm sure they were all hoping this bailout business would have been settled by the time of the VP debate, because Sarah-the-Outsider would have been a great attack-dog to unleash on the Nobama ticket and their ties to Freddie/Fannie. There's still 30 or so days to make this happen.

Posted by: Joe at October 02, 2008 11:43 PM (8nB5X)

67 Sniff. Jeezus. Did someone track dogshit in here? Check your shoes, people. It's probably that asshole Diderot. He's always letting his dog shit where it wants.

Posted by: Monty at October 02, 2008 11:44 PM (dCZbI)

68 morris overdid it on colmes. it's his show. very disrespectful.

Posted by: anna at October 02, 2008 11:45 PM (AA6vI)

69 McCain MUST tap into the anger at congress. I am going to submit a weird thought. I believe America expects Wall Street to be greedy. They really expected there government to not let greed or mismanagement to become their responsibility.

MSM won't get this because they believe Barney Frank and Dodd.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 02, 2008 11:45 PM (e2mBS)

70 Wow. S. Hannity made a 10k bet on live tv!

Posted by: smapty at October 02, 2008 11:45 PM (6F7lQ)

71 I'm so stupid that

uhhh

what were we talking about?

Posted by: Diderot's dog at October 02, 2008 11:47 PM (nrD02)

72
Ace, I pray you're right, but at this point I'm none too optimisitic.

Posted by: thebronze at October 02, 2008 11:48 PM (YlH3h)

73 Ace,

I hope to hell you are right.

I have been ranting like a f***ing maniac about McCain and the GOP needing to go the F***ING MAT with the Dems and the MSM.

Hey, John Sydney McCain III!

You're Losing!

And you know why?

Because the GOP has been lying down for Eight F***ing Years!

Get the hell up!

Tell Keith, Katie, Brian, Billy K. Paul K. MoDo, Babs, Sean, Val, Charlie, Oprah, to F*** OFF and start explaining to the American People who the hell Obama is and why he and the Dems are a F***ing Disaster for this country!

K?

Thanks.

Posted by: MeTooThen at October 02, 2008 11:49 PM (/47Mt)

74 I seriously hope you're right about this, Ace. McCain has a nasty habit of being nice to people he shouldn't. He's one of the last of the old "collegial" Senators.... the ones who would rake each other over the coals in debate, then go out and have a drink together after work and part as friends. Partisan politics in the Dizzy City have gotten far meaner than they used to be; McCain is one of the very few who haven't increased their partisan vitriol as a result.

Governor Palin more than held her own tonight. One can only hope that John McCain will kick butt and take names in the next debate.

Posted by: Steffan at October 02, 2008 11:49 PM (wvmvo)

Show me.

I will be glad to be proven wrong but he is NOT going to take the Donks to task on this. Was that fire Chris Cox thing just a head fake?

No, that was the real McCain, going to his worst instincts. Blame Republicans, chum up with Democrats. He did his best Jack Kemp impression during th debate, agreeing with Obama that Republicans suck.

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2008 11:50 PM (KpEAZ)

76
Optimistic either!

Posted by: thebronze at October 02, 2008 11:50 PM (YlH3h)

77 Spot on, ace.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that Team McCain has ads ready to roll the instant Bush signs the bailout bill.

Posted by: Pavel at October 02, 2008 11:50 PM (/jsnH)

78 I'll believe it when I see it. The McCain camp hasn't shown any signs of wanting to play hardball for weeks.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at October 02, 2008 11:50 PM (7748k)

79 Diderot's dog, I know you are a resident troll here and I'm typically not inclined to feed little trolls like you, but I happen to know a thing or two about military aviation, being a former helicopter aviator myself. Before you continue to talk out of your ass and say some KOS type idiotic comments, perhaps I can offer you my assistance and help you to not look dumb? McCain's military background and history is undeniable and not really subject to revisionist bullshit. You'd have a much better chance going after his DC carreer and staying away from the military subjct you so obvious lack an understanding of.

Posted by: USAFDave at October 02, 2008 11:50 PM (4DWV5)

80 I get the sense that Diderots dog is leaning toward Obama.

Posted by: profligatewaste at October 02, 2008 11:51 PM (s65nF)

81 MeTooThe:

huzzah!

Posted by: kad77 at October 02, 2008 11:51 PM (B5RxW)

82 Diderot you type as loopilly as you think. I need some google translator.

Posted by: Brian J at October 02, 2008 11:52 PM (mIIhL)

83 But, uh, the bailout bill has no affect on FM/FM. The issue still exists.

I'm optimistic, but I'm not seeing it. Johnnymac is playing nice with the cameras.

Hey Diderot, want a rape kit? On sale, real cheap, you seem to need a few right now

Posted by: kal at October 02, 2008 11:54 PM (5j/Xg)

84 XBradTC

That was Kathryn Powers. Just read it myself. Have yet to find my lower jaw.

Posted by: Militant Bibliophile at October 02, 2008 11:54 PM (cXseo)

85 Maybe, but it sounds like a really bad strategy. No one will care much about this after a bill is passed and that could still be a couple weeks from now. I see no advantage in waiting. By the time this is settled the media will have sprung their October surprise and this issue will have been forgotten. Democrats know how to use propaganda and an important rule is to get your message out early because that makes your side of the story "conventional wisdom."

Posted by: pitythefool at October 02, 2008 11:54 PM (rop3r)

86 I heard that this was the Plan from a McCain [economics?] advisor on.... maybe Jerry Doyle a coupla daze ago.

Posted by: Faye Kinnitt at October 02, 2008 11:54 PM (l1oyw)

87 You're wrong. But I wish you were right. I've thought things like this about McCain before and he has never failed to disappoint me.

Posted by: The Big Feed at October 02, 2008 11:54 PM (THFnc)

88 Praying you're right, and on Fox a few minutes ago, Lieberman actually seemed to hint that "things will be changing soon." Let's hope they crack open a serious can o' namin'-names-whoopass once this bill passes.

Posted by: jakeman at October 02, 2008 11:55 PM (O5q8Z)

89 Never happen.

Maverick McAmnesty prefers to kick Republicans in the nuts.

Holding Dems acountable? Just not Mavericky.

Posted by: butch at October 02, 2008 11:56 PM (XmBa2)

90 You'll note that a couple of days ago Nancy was going to have the House vote today. Something made them decide that maybe after the VP debate would be better.

Posted by: Al at October 02, 2008 11:56 PM (Lk931)

91 I hope and pray you're right. McCain and the RNC's silence on this is beyond infuriating. Probably the reason why the Democrats are procrastinating on it do darn much.

Posted by: Martin Knight at October 02, 2008 11:57 PM (9MQW+)

92 Dammit, I'm an ass.

Kathryn Lopez.

Had been reading about Kirsten Powers somewhere else.

Plus, I'm drunk

Posted by: Militant Bibliophile at October 02, 2008 11:57 PM (cXseo)

93 I'd like to think that the RNC is going to use that $66 million on something. Hopefully it will be a carpet bombing ad campaign on this issue, cause I ain't seeing nothin' from McCain in North Carolina.

Posted by: Dudley Smith at October 02, 2008 11:57 PM (uVCZA)

94 McCain's problem right now is how to deal with an economy that is burning slowly rather than exploding. An explosion is alarming and convinces people that immediate action is required. A slow burn is deceptive and sometimes invisible; it makes people think they have time to think about it, to fetch water, to build firebreaks. McCain has to treat lightly for more reasons than one, because he knows that there is a lot of pain on the way, and Americans want to hear solutions, not just a litany of woe. McCain is too honorable a man to blow sunshine up our collective asses and assure us of salvation, but Obama has no such scruples.

Posted by: Monty at October 03, 2008 12:00 AM (dCZbI)

95 McCain has been playing hardball since the conventions. He's kept Obama's campaign spinning like a drunken tango dancer simply by playing close to the vest and making wise strategic moves.

I can't say he'll win, but he's giving it a hell of a try.

I anticipate a blitz leading up to the election. McCain will break out ACORN, Palin, possibly Ayers, etc., between now and election day. Obama won't have time to pick a position, and the media won't have time to pooh-pooh everything McCain says.

Combined with the general lack of information had on Obama may be enough to push McCain over the top.

Say what you will, McCain's campaign has had a handle on the media cycle.

Posted by: Justin at October 03, 2008 12:00 AM (iH1PP)

96 Diderots dog

He's my bitch.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 03, 2008 12:02 AM (5a8lx)

97 Militant Bibliophile at October 02, 2008 11:57 PM

You too?

Only way to deal with this election.

Posted by: butch at October 03, 2008 12:10 AM (XmBa2)

98 Ace, I wish I could count on McCain blasting his way out of the corner with this.

Posted by: Ronsonic at October 03, 2008 12:13 AM (ywSvi)

99 (FNC).

Hey Greta, where's the Joe B. Scranton debate party? How is this "fair and balanced"?

Posted by: smapty at October 03, 2008 12:17 AM (6F7lQ)

100 I'm with ace, and i can't fucking wait

Posted by: zionist gigolo at October 03, 2008 12:17 AM (0d3p4)

101 I hate to burst anyone's bubble but I think it's too late. Tonight was the big stage with everyone watching. Palin passed up so many opportunities to hammer Biden over the head with Fred/Fran that the omission has to be deliberate. By the time McCain starts talking about it, however, people will have moved on.

Conventional wisdom is already established that the ailing economy is the Republicans fault. Brand rehabilitation is the most difficult of marketing feats. And the in-the-tank media is not likely to cooperate and give McCain a very large soapbox after this legislation has passed. The voting public has a short attention span and they'll probably be focused on the first of the inevitable October surprises.

Posted by: Lost Near Pittsburgh at October 03, 2008 12:18 AM (lhphN)

102 Folks I hope to Hell that the McCain people were paying attention when they showed the Luntz focus group on Fox and they showed the approvals going through the roof when she spoke about personal responsibility. What this shows, very clearly, is that the people of this country are smart enough and can understand that this mess is not because of "predatory lenders" per se (thought there has been some of that), buy that it is about stupid and/or predatory borrowers. This is the kind of statement that moderate politicians are loathe to make because they think they have to make sure all people believe nobody is at fault except those evil and more powerful rich guys on Wall St. People talk around the water cooler, they speak with their friends and family and no matter what the media spouts this stuff gets out. Memo to McCain you can follow up on this as Obama would never follow and would come off looking like a typical politician. You can then, oh please, land the devastating blows about the dem's ties to the firms at the center of this and you can stick a knife in and twist...

Brian

Brian

Posted by: Brian J at October 03, 2008 12:22 AM (mIIhL)

103

shush...the bill isn't through the house yet, right?

Limbaugh has hated McCain, personally and viscerally, for at least a decade. So the crap about McCain only going after his own side is pathetic and false. It would behoove him and others to quit repeating that crap unless their goal is to elect Obama POTUS

Posted by: funky chicken at October 03, 2008 12:23 AM (xyyHG)

104 Conventional wisdom is already established that the ailing economy is the Republicans fault.

Much as I hate to say it, Conventional Wisdom (that smug bastard) is not entirely wrong. The Fannie/Freddie mess is an entirely Democrat mess, true, but the GOP's hands are far from clean in terms of weak oversight and lack of regulatory muscle. The current financial meltdown is due to government ineptitude, and encompasses both parties.

Posted by: Monty at October 03, 2008 12:23 AM (dCZbI)

105 ...and let us not forget that Paulson may have actually touched a match to the fuse by running to Congress with his sky-is-falling freakout rather than doing it on the down-low.

Posted by: Monty at October 03, 2008 12:25 AM (dCZbI)

106 "Plus, I'm drunk"

I wish I was.

People, this issue has been framed. The bell has been rung, and nobody can unring it. Not to say McCain shouldn't try. For Chrissakes, Congress is sitting on 10% I would have been running against Reid and Pelosi a long time ago. DEMOCRATS, not ready to lead.

Posted by: Charles Hamilton at October 03, 2008 12:26 AM (PfNJr)

107 Just as my friend and I entered the car on our way home from Staten Island the debate was just starting on the radio. Right off the bat comes the question about the bailout. We were halfway across the gang plank when I said, " Here it comes, here's her chance to kick him right in the balls"! But noooo. My buddy Jim said just to wait, it'll happen just not now. He's smart, built dams and nuclear power plants all over the globe. Sometimes I think Ace is smart. Oh boy do I hope they are right!

Posted by: Dennis at October 03, 2008 12:26 AM (HPd5W)

108 Limbaugh has hated McCain, personally and viscerally, for at least a decade.

"Hatred" is a bit strong. Rush actually called McCain "McBrilliant" after he chose Palin as his running-mate, and Rush is all kinds of enthused about Palin. It's true that Rush has little use for McCain, mostly because Rush is a conservative and McCain isn't. But calling this "hatred" is carrying things a bit far.

Posted by: Monty at October 03, 2008 12:28 AM (dCZbI)

109

Hahahahah, hello, lost in Pittsburg. I left this comment over at hotair, but I'll just cut and paste for you

So, the astroturf talking point seems to be �She did really well, but McCain�s still gonna lose, so don�t bother being excited or going out to vote.�

You guys are doing Mr. Axelrod proud. I know he had the �Biden crushed the rube� statements ready to roll, and you guys have adapted admirably.

Posted by: funky chicken at October 03, 2008 12:29 AM (xyyHG)

110 Monty, have you listened to the McCain song parodies Rush has played for the past, oh, at least 8 years? They are horrible, much more scathing than anything he has done to Sharpton or Obama or anybody else I can think of.

Posted by: funky chicken at October 03, 2008 12:31 AM (xyyHG)

111 Rush may not like McCain, but he knows that compared to Obama he's Bill Buckley.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at October 03, 2008 12:35 AM (4ZOxD)

112 BradXTC,
You're right buddy. There is hope for the NRO. And I'm taking back a lot of the mean things I've said about them. Not because of the passage you cite. Though it was nice I guess, but for what Andy McCarthy just did to Steve Spruiell over there. Go take a look. I'm terrible with the link thing. McCarthy understands what is up with the media and he understands what Republicans have to do to get a level playing field. With more McCarthy that mag could rock again.... I'll try to with hold judgment and watch him work

Posted by: The Obvious at October 03, 2008 12:36 AM (1g+FW)

113 In order for McCain to win, he will have to do this.

Posted by: WisCon at October 03, 2008 12:52 AM (RsaX9)

114 Jesus Christ, I hope you're right. I doubt it but I hope you are right.

Posted by: Henry Gomez at October 03, 2008 12:53 AM (im3mA)

115 I was thinking the same thing earlier tonight (about when he'll unleash). If he does it now, there's no way they'll get anything through.

If he waits until it passes, then goes after Dodd and Frank and the rest that caused this to happen, there's nothing they can hold over his head.

An October surprise handed to him on a silver platter.

Posted by: Dean at October 03, 2008 12:53 AM (FU3dj)

116 You're getting a little too paranoid, funky chicken. I hate the astroturfing as much as you do. I'll admit I'm a little pessimistic when it comes to McCain, and given the way he's gone against us in the past so many times I think I'm a little justified in that. While I might not be a gung-ho McCain supporter, I sure am an enthusiastic Palin supporter. (My first choice was Fred! second choice Romney and third Guiliani.) Due to the Couric and Gibson interviews I had low expectations going into this but Palin did herself, her family, and her country proud tonight. I was saying prayers for her throughout the day. I'm voting for McCain, and thanks to Palin I will no longer have to hold my nose while doing it.

Posted by: Lost Near Pittsburgh at October 03, 2008 12:53 AM (lhphN)

117 Andy McCarthy's great. Steyn is great. VDH is really good. there's a couple others....thanks for the tip

Posted by: funky chicken at October 03, 2008 12:54 AM (xyyHG)

118 I hope so...I am sure he's got something up his sleeve. He hasn't come this far to give up.

He laughed when a commentator remarked that his win was "surprising." The media wrote him off and the pundits wrote him off. Just like they did Palin.

I hope he proposes eliminating F/F, repealing the CRA and prosecuting RAines, Johnson and Gorelick. I'd walk through glass for him after that.

Posted by: PJ at October 03, 2008 12:54 AM (GVdvM)

119 "Hatred" is a bit strong. Rush actually called McCain "McBrilliant" after he chose Palin as his running-mate, and Rush is all kinds of enthused about Palin. It's true that Rush has little use for McCain, mostly because Rush is a conservative and McCain isn't. But calling this "hatred" is carrying things a bit far.

Agreed. McCain isn't a conservative, and is probably the definition of a RINO.

Big surprise it has drawn the Big Guy's ire over the years.

Posted by: kad77 at October 03, 2008 12:55 AM (B5RxW)

120

Ew, went to the corner who the fuck is jason lee stoats, or whatever?

more dumping on palin from someone who just thinks he is her better

Posted by: funky chicken at October 03, 2008 12:59 AM (xyyHG)

121 Ace, I think you're right. And I think that is the real reason Sarah didn't open up on the Democrats over the Bailout. McCain isn't going to do anything that will hazard the passage of the bill. I mean that was so frikin obvious and she passed it up?

Got to keep in mind that McCain is the one who picked Palin to begin with. He didn't do anything up until the announcement that might of given The One a reason to select Hillary instead of Joe.

Posted by: RayJ at October 03, 2008 01:00 AM (ASGxm)

122

That's the only reason I could come up with to explain why he hasn't defended himself.

Country first.

Character versus political opportunism.

I just hope he pounds the crap out of him once the bill is passed.

Posted by: Wahine at October 03, 2008 01:07 AM (bagHa)

123 Funky
Forget Stoats all they do is raid the hen house any way. Get to McCarthy v. Spruiell. There is hope over there. Encourage McCarthy. Forget the rest. The flowers that you water grow. The others you don't have to worry about after a while. I'm going to try and remember that before I run my mouth so much.

Posted by: The Obvious at October 03, 2008 01:09 AM (1g+FW)

124 He didn't unload because he has Rick Davis on his payroll who is still getting paid by Fannie and Freddie.

What about his opposition to searching for the missing POWs?

Posted by: edmund burke at October 03, 2008 01:10 AM (PcDeR)

125 Ace, I hope you're right on this one.

This is a pre-packaged October Surprise to trump all October Surprises (with the exception of the mythical "Whitey" tape or video of The One at the pulpit with Wright and on a rant of AIDS and hating America)

McCain could utterly destroy half the House and Dodd, Schumer, Reid and Obama in one fell swoop.

This needs to happen, but Palin opted for the "Wall St. bastards" standby meme tonight after Ifill lobbed the softball straight to her... my only real disappointment.

Posted by: Damiano at October 03, 2008 01:13 AM (cfKer)

126

www.miafacts.org/mccain.htm

go crawl back under your rock, "burke"

Posted by: funky chicken at October 03, 2008 01:17 AM (xyyHG)

127

Ace, I think we've all been wishing, hoping, pleading that this will be what the strategy is. If Moron Inc can see this, how can the McCain camp NOT?? They've got me wanting to pull my teeth out with pliars and rinse with hobo urine, I'm so frustrated...

I'm hoping that they're just waiting for the lead element to clear the kill zone, let the main body walk in, and then blow the fucking claymores and fire it up.

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at October 03, 2008 01:18 AM (j3YxI)

128 McCain was an active member of the 1991-1993 Senate Select Committee on POW-MIA Affairs and he exposed the lies and scams that Sampley, Hopper, LeBoutellier, and others were running.

Posted by: funky chicken at October 03, 2008 01:19 AM (xyyHG)

129 I really hope you're right. Given the impressive job McCain's been doing witth this campaign (far better than I expected), I expect you're right.

But I wait with baited breath for knowing that you're right.

Posted by: Greg Q at October 03, 2008 01:20 AM (87k2j)

130

Ace, I hope and pray you are right. If he does, I am pulling up my lawn chair with my bowl of popcorn and my White Russian. I want to see some donkeys getting their balls kicked in their ass. Fight for us, Mac!!!

Posted by: KCLady at October 03, 2008 01:20 AM (gAgXA)

131 You guys do know that George Bush is head of the executive branch, and that the US Justice Department is part of the executive branch?

Posted by: funky chicken at October 03, 2008 01:21 AM (xyyHG)

132

In fact, I think gwen fuckin' awful threw that very question of "who is to blame" in there so that McCain/Palin would shoot their wad a month before the election. Yes, you fuckin' Maverick, yes!! What fire control, what discipline!!

Oh, I hope these fuckers unleash this shit close to Halloween...

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at October 03, 2008 01:22 AM (j3YxI)

133 Unrelated, but was anyone else distracted by Biden's plastic surgery? He must have used Jocelyn Wildenstein's doctor for that eye-lift. There must be a good photoshop goof to be had there.

Posted by: Lost Near Pittsburgh at October 03, 2008 01:36 AM (lhphN)

134 1. Why did McCain vote for a pork laden bill?
2. He does not have the balls to go up against those in Washington he relates to most.
3. He is going to piddly poo his way along.

Posted by: porknbean at October 03, 2008 01:36 AM (TYoC4)

135 Mav needs to call out "Buttfuck Barney" Frank, and "Countrywide" Dodd and demand their resignations from their committee chairs... fucking bastards shouldn't have a damn thing to do with this county's finances - fuckers should be indicted, tried and convicted for their rolls in this fucking mess. Bet his staff has some heavy duty shit on both of them, along with Barry O the Media Ho in the mess...

Posted by: Eeyore's Swinging Sack at October 03, 2008 01:45 AM (VYEVW)

136 Unlikely.

Posted by: MlR at October 03, 2008 01:49 AM (PLmsY)

137 I'm also starting to wonder if Harry Reid's comment about "a major insurance company about to go under" was deliberate and planned for some nefarious goal.

I'm coming up with a couple of possibilities

1) Tank the market another day to force a pass vote
2) Generate more bad economic news to help BO

Any others?.... or am I just being paranoid here.

Posted by: Pianobuff at October 03, 2008 02:06 AM (nZwEh)

138 Perhaps McCain's political advisers are telling him that assigning blame to anyone but Wall Street is a net loss. The right, left and center all hate what Wall Street has wrought, so there are gains all around for assigning blame there. He's already got the conservative vote locked in with Palin. He needs some of the independents and a few of the center-left to win. He can't afford to risk alienating the swing voters by pointing a finger at the government.

And who is perceived right now to be most closely associated with "government" -- the incumbent party or the party of "change"? If McCain blames the Democrats, they will just respond that this mess happened under a Republican administration and that it was Bush's job to do something about it. If McCain pointed out that Bush did try to do something about it, then he'd be in the position of defending a rather unpopular President.

I, personally, don't feel this is a good strategy, but this is the way some political consultants think. They over study a problem until it leads to some irrational conclusions.

Posted by: Lost Near Pittsburgh at October 03, 2008 02:12 AM (lhphN)

139 McCain said that the important task is to fix the problem first. That there would be plenty of time to point fingers after. We all saw how Pelosi worked her magic during the House's first attempt at a bill.

However, McCain better address this issue.

Like some in Lunz's focus group mentioned, I'm fed up with DC and the politicians.

Posted by: dk70 at October 03, 2008 02:18 AM (IgY6J)

140 OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE!!!!!! I want to hear this SOOOOOOOO bad. I'm just worried Sen. McCain just doesn't have it in him to bite back like that.

Oh man.. what a day it would be for me to hear him nail Obama for his lies and point out just how deep in the mess this empty suit is. Obama has to have been thanking his lucky stars that no one has really dug too deep into this to see how far he's sunk in. Notice how quiet he got "preparing for the big debate." He was keeping out of the way because he knows just how dirty he is on this issue.

Posted by: madmonica at October 03, 2008 02:26 AM (PpWmG)

141

No... It is too soon.

We wait.

Posted by: Mr. Selatcia at October 03, 2008 02:30 AM (MY+kJ)

142 I hope you're right. It's a smart play if that's what he does.

Posted by: Mark at October 03, 2008 02:39 AM (05Yv7)

143 He'd better. I'm becoming disgusted by his silence.

Posted by: somercet at October 03, 2008 02:44 AM (imcqO)

144 My name is JBD, and I approve this strategy.

Oh man, I can't wait to see ol' Johnny McCain, Naval Aviator, takin' his bomber downtown to Haiphong Harbor, carpeting Ho-Ho-Ho Chi Obama.

It's too good to contemplate. I won't let myself get all wound up in anticipation, only to see Senator Gentility form Arizona abort his run at the last second.

Bot, maybe, if only...

Posted by: JBD at October 03, 2008 02:47 AM (o1Xqs)

145 So does that mean Sarah was fluffing Biden to get him ready for the Obama gangbang?

Posted by: JBD at October 03, 2008 02:49 AM (o1Xqs)

146 Lost in Pittsuburg.

Well, that's fine too. He doesn't have to name them. But if you shine the light in the right freaking spot, no one will be able to ignore the cockroaches. Then you can pop off with "Hey, isn't he with Obama?"

There's a lot of pieces 'to blame' here, but it all comes back to the CRA and Fanny and Freddy pushing CRA loans hard.

The "Deregulation" crap didn't affect Fanny and Freddy, and they had enough pull to be excluded from Sarbanes-Oxley. Wall street hates Sarbanes-Oxley, and I can't imagine they have any happy thoughts for people that managed to avoid it - while simultaneously pulling exactly the same stunt that sunk Enron.

"Teaser Rate" loans are not a problem under non-CRA conditions. When you've put twenty farking percent down for a house, paid mortgages on time for five years (up to 30% vested now), you don't ever just walk away from the house. And if you did, the bank isn't going to take a massive loss - they just got 30%!

There's a couple of clips of Franklin Raines and the other idiots saying some truly moronic things in hindsight.

Posted by: Al at October 03, 2008 03:05 AM (Lk931)

147 God I Hope so. That would Change this race permanently.

But I think that's just wishful thinking, alas.

Posted by: axe at October 03, 2008 03:42 AM (h+GOw)

148 To late. As with the expert assessments in 2002, paid for by Fannie Mae, the expert ratbags are already out their saying it wasn't Fannie Mae or Freddi Macs fault. This is enough to beat McCain over the head with using non-stop advertising.

Posted by: davod at October 03, 2008 03:47 AM (GUZAT)

149 Ace, honey, wake up. It's time for school.

Posted by: Ace's Mom at October 03, 2008 04:44 AM (kYpqT)

150 Perhaps, if McCain does a reality check.

For whatever reason McCain is still on his 'bi-partisan' kick. He's in fantasy land...it's almost 2009 and we're still dealing with BDS over the 2000 election. If McCain thinks the donks will be graceful losers over this election, he's smoking industrial-grade crack.

Sorry kids, if you think BDS was over the top, wait till you have to deal with MDS...

Seriously, McCain HAS to hang FannyMae/FreddieMac deal around the donks necks or he'll NEVER sway the general public into his camp. That generalized rage brewing in the street will focus on the easiest target in sight, the current administration; McCain HAS to redirect that anger or BHO will lie his way into the WH...gliding in on a magic carpet held up by the MSM.

It's well past time to 'stop playing nice'...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 03, 2008 06:19 AM (nQ6xk)

151

I have had the same thought for the last week - it would be the smart play, contrasting nicely with Pelosi's partisan rant on the eve of the House vote.

Unfortunately, I am afraid that McCain is in his "Deacon" mode right now. The same man willing to trash the First Amendment over shame of his involvement in the Keating Five incident does not see clearly when it comes to matters of monetary corruption and greed.

I fervently hope I'm wrong and you are right.

Posted by: Chuck O at October 03, 2008 07:12 AM (Vul35)

152

McCain has several hot button issues that could be turned into amazingly effective weapons if he chose, but countering the constant littany of lies that the Left spews out is a daunting task. The truth has to be repeated as often as, or more often than, the lies in order to sink in. If he saves it all up for the last days of this war then perhaps the shock value will be enough to get through the election. I sure hope so. If only the Right was as vigorous in repeating the truth as the Left is at repeating bullshit - we wouldn't be in this mess. Bush 1 and Dole failed because they refused to fight - which means they deserved to lose. I hope McCain has figured that out.

Posted by: Reactionary at October 03, 2008 07:28 AM (H7yZC)

153 In spite of the numerous issues that McCain could/ should be exploiting, I remain skeptical on this one.

With the exception of the selection of a true maverick like Palin, this painful drama reminds me of the Dole campaign.

Posted by: Doc Rochester at October 03, 2008 09:19 AM (kXcbE)

154

I was wondering why Palin kept playing the 'populist/predatory lender' card. It seemed like she was pulling punches when it came to that. I was dying for her to name drop Raines or Pritzker. Now I see why she didn't.

The fact that she stayed on message when it came to the credit crunch stuff is a credit to her rhetorical discipline. I'll just add that I hope to God you're right about this, Ace, or we're in for a load of pain come November. I realize that McCain's gotta keep his powder dry, but I wonder if he's gonna have the stones to call out Obama's Fannie/Freddie cronies if he's way behind on, say, October 25th.

Posted by: KingShamus at October 03, 2008 09:29 AM (7HvqU)

155 It's called wishful thinking.

Posted by: blaster at October 03, 2008 10:01 AM (BiphJ)

156

I'm betting with Ace on this one, and liking the fighter pilot metaphor.

Until he does, I'm living on Twinkies and non-alcoholic beer -- keping the edge off 'til I get my real fix.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 03, 2008 10:05 AM (+dm+A)

157

Hopefully from your mouth to Gods ears!!

Fourth quarter.........

Team down two touchdowns....................

Your team made the stop it needed last night at the goal line on a forth down.......

Time to go smashmouth!

Hit him hard in OH, PA, VA and CO, he who takes three of the four will be the new POTUS.

Posted by: bdawg65 at October 03, 2008 11:34 AM (N2u8N)

158 That train has left the station. McCain will not do that. btw, I just sent my congresscritter an email pointing out the 25% pork in the bill, and strongly suggested he vote it down.

Posted by: TimothyJ at October 03, 2008 12:00 PM (IKKIf)

159 I liked Palin much better before the debate. Last night, she sold her soul to Mc Sellout.

Where was the Republican last night or the last debate? I didn't see one I recognized.

Palin presented herself well except that she parroted the McCain sell out line.

If I didn't know any better, I couldn't tell last night which party was tougher on foreign policy, which was the Tax cutting party and which was the Spending party, which was for Big government, which was for Small.

Oh Boy! Mc Cain will give us Immigration Reform nicely tailored for the illegals, Cap and Trade and other Global Warming schlock, tougher regulation on those slimy predatory Capitalists on Wall Street and Main Street, some sort of capitulation on Health Care, more limitations on free speech and probably higher taxes to boot. What a way to attack a recession! Brilliant !Mc Cain.

I am frightened to death of an Obama Presidency, but I also fear a Mc Cain Presidency.

It wasn't just that the Mc Cain camp couldn't bring themselves to call out the Dems on Fannie and Freddie. Like Ace, I can see holding that back till passage of the Bailout.
But Mc Cain can't call out the Dems on anything.

Mc Cain is not a reformer. That is crap. Our government bureaucracy has been thoroughly infiltrated with leftist monnkey wrenchers. The State Department, CIA, FBI, EPA, Departments of Justice, Interior; you name it. This corrupt leftist government needs a leader who will go after corruption and malfeasance anywhere he finds it, while protecting our rights and individual liberties in the process. Mc Cain is not that person. Mc Cain can only see Republican corruption. Anything the left does is OK by Mc Cain.

What we have in this election is Heavy Handed Marxism so far successfully masquerading as a moderate Democrat and Socialism Lite masquerading as a Republican.

The big question is whether to confront a leftist takeover now by Obama when conservativism still has some ability to fight back, or in four years after Mc Cain 's brand of socialism has thoroughly weakened this country.

As for me, since I live in California and my vote won't count anyway, I'm voting for the nut case Barr in protest.

Posted by: Paul at October 03, 2008 12:19 PM (IReOt)

160 I dunno. McPain hasn't shown any interest in attacking. None.

Posted by: dad29 at October 03, 2008 12:34 PM (EiWnc)

161 I want to stay up about the election, so I try not to think too much about McCain.

He working the angles like a legislative politician instead of a straight line attack on the Dims. I can't believe that among all the "greed of Wall Street" stuff they can't slip in an

"Oh by the way, the greedy Democrat party politicians who sold the country down the tubes for campaign cash and jobs for their special cronies need to be punished/voted out of office."

If he doesn't understand the need to go ball's out by this point, he's on the Bob Dole lovable loser with strange new respect path.

But, on the up side he'll get to hang out with all his media buddies again!

Posted by: rinseandspit at October 03, 2008 12:50 PM (ao5cQ)

162 I hope you're right, Ace. I really do. But my gut feeling is that McCain's just going to sit there and let the Dems continue to re-break his arms & bring him back to his cell. As much as I'd like to see him bloody up Frank, Raines, etc., his track record hasn't given me much hope that he's going to do that. I'd love to be wrong...... What a no-brainer it is. He could so easily turn this election around in his favor if he just exposed these slimeball bastards for what they did, & give the American people the truth.

Posted by: Twinks at October 03, 2008 01:23 PM (7QUxD)

163 I hope so

Posted by: Black Rabbit at October 03, 2008 01:39 PM (GXni/)

164 If he does this, hammers it home, repeatedly, forcefully, directly, and asks Obama what Freddie and Fannie got in return for over 126,000 in campaign contributioins, McCain will win this thing.

Posted by: Trialdog at October 03, 2008 01:52 PM (LmCIy)

165
Ace, you're wrong.

http://tinyurl.com/3lf8xa

Posted by: thebronze at October 03, 2008 02:00 PM (YlH3h)

166

I dunno. I listened to an interview of McCain yesterday and he seemed to hint at this course of action. I believed he was asked about his past attempts to reform/regulate FM/FM, who was responsible for blocking those attempts, and why.

Paraphrasing, he said, "Look, this is a grave economic crisis. The rescue bill is a tourniquet. Once the tourniquet is applied and the bleeding stops, we can and will turn our attention to the wound, how it was caused, and who allowed it to be inflicted."

Probably reading too much into it, but may as well hope.

Posted by: angler at October 03, 2008 02:13 PM (kSuu1)

167 Believe it. I've wondered why he hasn't done this yet, but he's a military man and knows strategy. Would have been too easy to jump on it in the middle of the crisis. The opportune time to launch the attack is prior to and during the debate on the economy. Obama thinks he owns this issue, but he's going to be on defense from a complete frontal assault on this debacle that can be laid directly at the feet of democratic policies and active efforts to roadblock greater oversight. Not to mention his own complicity based on his ACORN ties and Fannie bribes. Yes bribes, call 'em what they are folks!

It's a great strategy, because there's still a lot of time left and the truth cannot be hidden.

Posted by: timajin at October 03, 2008 03:23 PM (/BkaD)

168

I wish you were right, as I have thought of that idea myself. But the alternative theory is that this is the vintage John McCain that makes us all wince. The guy that won�t utter a bad word about his Democratic Senate colleagues even when they will stab him in the back when the chance arises, but buffer his bi-partisan bona fides by slamming Republicans every chance he gets. He promises to make pork abusers famous, but he gives a pass to the biggest culprits in this mess, Countrywide Chris Dodd and Barney �Nothing to see here folks� Frank. I think that what attracted him to Palin is the idea that she took on her State�s party Chairman, and saw in her, what he likes to see in himself.

Like I said, I hope you're right, because I think that is McCain�s only shot at turning this around, unless Obama self-sabotages or Biden sticks his foot in it again. Unfortunately, I have seen too many examples of the latter to have any real hope.

Posted by: Matt at October 03, 2008 04:07 PM (UYmdr)

169

ATTENTION McCain Staffers:

I assume you are out there. If you are, take heed... you must, MUST, MUST ensure that this happens. McCain better not just do this but his temper better be flaring. I want to see him PISSED OFF, I want his face so red and his voice so terrifyingly menacing that BHO crawls under his podium and stays there for the rest of the debate whimpering in the fetal position.

Additionally, the first time that BHO attempts to tie McCain to Bush, McCain MUST, MUST, MUST turn on his heels and then reply (VERBATIM):

"Senator, say what you will about George W. Bush and his policies. George W. Bush, our President, is a good an honorable man that has done his level best, and may I add, succeeded at, protecting this nation from an additional tragedy, the likes of which befell us on September 11, 2001. I have disagreed with the President on a number of policy issues, but he has my respect, admiration and heartfelt appreciation for the dedication and service he has shown this country seeing it through its darkest of hours. The association that you draw between me and George W. Bush, as specious as that association is, is one that I am much more comfortable with and the American people are ultimately much more comfortable with than the associations that you bring to the table, Senator Obama, such as:

� The association with unrepentant radical and domestic terrorist, William Ayers.

� The association with vitriolic, anti-American, hate-monger, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

� The association with the corruption-ridden, election fixing, embezzling laden, thug-street-gang of an organization called ACORN.

� And last but not least, the association with the soon to be subject of a McCain/Palin administration sponsored federal investigation and subsequent federal indictment for corruption, racketeering, fraud, embezzlement, perjury, dereliction of duty and whatever other charges are found to be appropriate - bankrupter of Fannie May, the never to see the light of day except through prison bars again...Franklin Raines.

GAME, SET, MATCH.

ENSURE IT HAPPENS.

Posted by: ccoop at October 03, 2008 04:49 PM (N/k4Z)

170 ... still waiting for those dogs of war ...
The bailout bill has passed. Both houses.
... no dogs yet ...

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