Big Scoop Coming Down Tonight

Probably at about midnight or just before.

It's Rusty's story. It'll be posted later. Midnight ET or maybe a bit after.

The basics? Astroturfing, of a similar sort as practiced by David "Astroturf" Axelrod. An attempt to get a blatantly dishonest anti-Palin ad to go "viral" on YouTube. Gross deception in pumping out fake "amateur grassroots" ads which are really cooked up by a big PR firm connected to a top Obama advisor, David Axelrod, and Obama's officially-acknowledged ads. And likely bright-line violations of electioneering laws, which require those putting out "electioneering communications" to disclose the true creator and sponsor of such ads.

Oh, Yeah: I forgot to say:

IMPACTING...

Correction: The latest is that the law does not seem to require disclaimers naming the producers/sponsors of an internet ad if it was placed for free and not for fee. As it seems to have just been placed on YouTube in the normal course of things (that is, people from the firm just uploading it without paying YouTube), it doesn't look like this is outright illegal.

As far as that part goes, at least.

Posted by: Ace at 06:47 PM

Comments

1 Is this the one you were asking help for earlier?

Dang, if Axelrod is thrown under the bus, who will Obama have left? I don't think that Michelle will be much help.... and Greasy Joe certainly won't be.

Posted by: juno at September 21, 2008 06:50 PM (7uTCa)

2 Outstanding!

Posted by: ahem at September 21, 2008 06:54 PM (jv53W)

3 yes it's that one.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2008 06:55 PM (1WR4H)

4 Forgive me for Monday-morning quarterbacking (or backseat driving, or whatever):

But if the rightwing blogosphere organized on this, I really think they could make it into a big story - particularly if they demonstrated its connection to the Palin smears.

I know you're up against a not very sympathetic media, but it really surprises me that other right-leaning sites aren't making as big a deal of this as you are.

Anyway, carry on.

Posted by: AD at September 21, 2008 06:56 PM (PeYVg)

I am less than hopeful that whatever this is, gets MSM attention. Sorry for the buzzkill....

That aside, I wanted to just tell Ace that your blog kicks so much ass, that Maddox wishes he was you...

Posted by: working_man at September 21, 2008 06:57 PM (N5PCH)

6 Right-leaning blogs can effect the MSM news cycle, but it seems it has to be alot of them banging the drum until the MSM can't ignore things.

So, if this is a big enough story and enough people get on board...who knows? We might at least see it on Fox.

Posted by: Muledriver at September 21, 2008 06:59 PM (btc7a)

EXCELLENT. I stand ready to help spread the story far and wide. Hope it's a perfect shitstorm for Axelrod tomorrow!

Even tastier if he can be nailed for violations of McCain-Feingold.

Posted by: rockmom at September 21, 2008 06:59 PM (iZqUY)

8 I know you're up against a not very sympathetic media, but it really surprises me that other right-leaning sites aren't making as big a deal of this as you are.

For that matter, I probably should also lump the McCain camp into that group, though I guess they might be worried about coming across as paranoid.

Posted by: AD at September 21, 2008 07:00 PM (PeYVg)

9 With Obama points ahead in the Gallup poll, the McCain/Palin ticket is going to need every bit of help they get.

1. Will the evidence be there?
2. Will the media cover it if it is?
3. Will the feds investigate it if it is?
4. Will the media cover that?
5. Will any of this make any difference if Rezko, Wright, and Ayers didn't?

Call me Eyore.

Posted by: Christoph at September 21, 2008 07:00 PM (hawOV)

10 Ahhh, so we should expect the Republicans to say nothing of this, then, right?

I mean, it's not like any of them have will or desire to fight for justice and advance conservatism.

Posted by: Bart at September 21, 2008 07:00 PM (5vNxG)

Who -

who-

hee-

haw!!!

Posted by: The Long Carbine at September 21, 2008 07:01 PM (NnAGL)

12 >>>But if the rightwing blogosphere organized on this, I really think they could make it into a big story - particularly if they demonstrated its connection to the Palin smears.

Well, we're more organized than usual. We're actually teasing it first!

And me and Dan Riehl are promoting it, even though it's not our story. We're going through our email boxes, including our MSM contacts, etc., doing a drudge style tease.

We're not exactly Winners at this, but we're trying.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2008 07:04 PM (1WR4H)

13 Be nice if it got covered. Mr Hope and Change would have some 'splanin' to do.

Posted by: GarandFan at September 21, 2008 07:05 PM (eJ32B)

14 Ohhhhhh....I can't wait!

Posted by: it's vintage, duh at September 21, 2008 07:05 PM (MMS7W)

15 Good luck, but it's already obvious to anyone in the right blogosphere that Obama's running probably the sleaziest, most cynical campaign in our history, but all we seem to hear from the media is that McCain is a liar and Obama has to get more sleazy...

Posted by: Rob at September 21, 2008 07:07 PM (8IWMm)

Yay! I will try to pop back online after the dallas game and see what the details are.

You know, for Monday morning office chit-chat.

Happy!

Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 21, 2008 07:07 PM (2PwTK)

17 Uh. Uhmmm. These, uh, ads, were, uh.... not, uh, the uh.... ads that, uh... I thought they... uh, were.

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 21, 2008 07:08 PM (btpzp)

Biden at least is one of the signers of McCain-Feingold (yes, yes, it's crap law; but if you sign it, you're supposed to obey it). Not sure if Obama was even in the Senate at the time but, lookie here at his website:

"Secrecy Dominates Government Actions: The Bush administration has ignored public disclosure rules and has invoked a legal tool known as the "state secrets" privilege more than any other previous administration to get cases thrown out of civil court.

"Require Independent Monitoring of Lobbying Laws and Ethics Rules: Obama and Biden will use the power of the presidency to fight for an independent watchdog agency to oversee the investigation of congressional ethics violations so that the public can be assured that ethics complaints will be investigated.

"Sunlight Before Signing: Too often bills are rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them. As president, Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.

"Shine Light on Earmarks and Pork Barrel Spending: Obama's Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act will shed light on all earmarks by disclosing the name of the legislator who asked for each earmark, along with a written justification, 72 hours before they can be approved by the full Senate. "

A big fan of shining lights through transparent windows, is our Barry.

Posted by: David Ross at September 21, 2008 07:08 PM (94eYr)

19 I realize fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, but I can't find the story you're linking on jawa's page.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2008 07:09 PM (P3ErD)

20 Can't wait either, good luck with that.

Too bad mid night is 5 am here... I'll have to check it later in the office, hehe.

Posted by: Sofia at September 21, 2008 07:12 PM (8Gx8M)

21 Is this the stuff that had to do with the rumors of the Hollywood-ish Oct & Nov surprises they were hinting at? (sorry at the wording, not sure quite how to put what I wanted to say)

Posted by: d at September 21, 2008 07:13 PM (wFY1t)

22 19 < --- i don't think the story is linked yet... or teased on his site... maybe im stupid too

Posted by: Greg s at September 21, 2008 07:14 PM (DlMoL)

23 If this is something that's legally actionable, shouldn't someone, say.... the FEC? .... be notified, more than just trying to push this into talk radio and Fox News?

It's one thing to fact check, it's another thing to be subverting the campaign laws. I think McCain-Feingold is bullshit, but the Supreme Court upheld it and it's the law.

Posted by: juno at September 21, 2008 07:14 PM (7uTCa)

24 I'm with Tami, is there something on jawa's page that has more details?

Posted by: mark at September 21, 2008 07:15 PM (o1Fa3)

25 I'm not sure how this will help my children.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at September 21, 2008 07:15 PM (3xgoE)

26 >>I realize fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, but I can't find the story you're linking on jawa's page.

It's only midnight in London.

Patience.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2008 07:15 PM (WL5K6)

27 If people aren't bothered by Rezko, Wright, Ayers, his Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac ties, and all the rest of his radical, commie ties, why should this bother them?

Posted by: Nice Deb at September 21, 2008 07:16 PM (ps79+)

28 In similar news, RightMichigan has an article here about violations (or at least quasi-legal circumventions) of state election law by the Obama campaign. State University property can't be campaigned on, dunderheads.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at September 21, 2008 07:17 PM (JSO4h)

29 And likely bright-line violations of electioneering laws, which require those putting out "electioneering communications" to disclose the true creator and sponsor of such ads.

Barry 'High Road' Obama's campaign using it's money to pretend to be a grass-roots organization in order to smear their opponent anonymously. Making Barry look like a two-faced scumbag is what will matter to undecideds.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at September 21, 2008 07:19 PM (MMC8r)

Shouldn't that be "breaking hard"? Oh, wait. That's NASCAR.

I know: "developing hard". NO, that's...I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Shawn at September 21, 2008 07:21 PM (1pafJ)

31 IMPACTING...

Shouldn't that be:

IMPACTING -> HARD -> PRISON -> FUDGEPACKING

Posted by: Booben at September 21, 2008 07:22 PM (tyxqh)

32 Won't matter, nothing will happen. A democrat could be caught with a dead girl or a live boy and it would only enhance their stature.

Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at September 21, 2008 07:23 PM (kNqJV)

33 This should be fun. Everyone get ready to email it to everyone you know.

Posted by: HawaiiLwyr at September 21, 2008 07:24 PM (Mt4OE)

34 I'm doing the happy dance - Chicago politics -you're going down!

Posted by: politicalmuse at September 21, 2008 07:26 PM (kLKnf)

35 Axelrod? Doing something he keeps insisting his enemies are doing? I am truly aghast. (Or I would be if it were true, which it obviously isn't, although I will be able to marshal no facts to rebut it.)

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 21, 2008 07:26 PM (NV3P1)

36 I'm probably not the first to see this but Powerline has a new name for the MSM which sounds pretty good: the Democratic/Media Complex.

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 21, 2008 07:27 PM (KOkrW)

37 To those people who are looking now for the article on Jawa's site, what do you think Ace meant when he wrote, "It'll be posted later. Midnight ET or maybe a bit after."

Posted by: Christoph at September 21, 2008 07:27 PM (hawOV)

38 Great!

From a commentator in LGF:

Obama is already offering positions in his Cabinet. 6 weeks BEFORE the election...

By the way, he has implicitly instructed Pelosi to reject the government's plan to prevent a financial meltdown. We know why: Hussein needs the country to collapse so that he can go up in the week's polls... What a patriot!

Posted by: oy at September 21, 2008 07:27 PM (QoSW2)

39 I sure hope this story reams, steams, and dry cleans Barry bigtime.

But, I'm not holding my breath.

Should we immolate a Buddist monk to call attention to it?

Posted by: eman at September 21, 2008 07:27 PM (TE1SV)

40 Where is or what is the proof that the Obama campaign had anything to do with this? Sounds like over zealous people at the PR firm with no direct or provable
connection to the Messiah created some anti-Palin ads that were put on YouTube.

BFD

How is this a scandal?

Posted by: state your name at September 21, 2008 07:28 PM (PfmeB)

quick!

Let's give ace cause for concern by unleashing a shitflood of potentially embarrasing racially-tinged statements!!!!!

Q: Why did Barack Obama where a tuxedo to his vasectomy procedure?

A: To highlight the discrepant health care options between the "haves" and the "have-nots".

Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 21, 2008 07:28 PM (NnAGL)

This could be disseminated among the moderates, I suppose.

We're bloggers (or at least hang out on bloggers' comments) and so McCain Feingold / Fairness Doctrine / etc hits us personally, and we hate that shit. But we're an echo chamber. Most Americans think of political campaign commercials as annoying, and negative, and too slick by half. They don't grit their teeth and accept it as part of the business of democracy like we do; they just want to watch their shows in peace.

Maybe an ad about how McCain has been for decades (ok, two decades...) a longstanding crusader for campaign finance reform, and Biden and now Obama have paid lip service to this ideal... but those two are, through Axelrod, flouting the law.

Posted by: David Ross at September 21, 2008 07:31 PM (Ugn7H)

43 we're tuned in.

"A Woman Vice President Committee" Drudge Ad?

Posted by: maverick muse at September 21, 2008 07:31 PM (F1b/5)

44 #40

Thanks for giving us the Messiah's spin before you could even read the fucking allegations.

But you lose points for forgetting to preface your remarks with 'As a conservative Christian, I'm concerned that...'

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at September 21, 2008 07:31 PM (MMC8r)

> If this is something that's legally actionable, shouldn't someone, say.... the FEC? .... be notified, more than just trying to push this into talk radio and Fox News?

Nah- the strategy is to let the story out, let the Obastards twist in the wind for a while, let the story grow, til it drowns out hopenchangenshit.

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 21, 2008 07:35 PM (KOkrW)

46 "This is a very serious matter for us at the FEC, and we will be sure to start an investigation, and get to the bottom of all of this, right about November 5. Thank you all, and good night."

Posted by: Brian72 at September 21, 2008 07:35 PM (h6lGQ)

47 Ok, McCain just lost my vote again. He just said he wants to appoint Andrew Cuomo to replace Chris Cox at the SEC.

We are fucked.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2008 07:36 PM (WL5K6)

48 from AMERICAN DIGEST:
"Truth leaks faster than helium." Michael Yon coins an axiom for the Age of the Web.

GO ACE!

Posted by: maverick muse at September 21, 2008 07:38 PM (F1b/5)

49 I've been a conservative all of my life, and I have to say that, despite my $140,000 per year salary, this concerns me. I will have to rethink voting for David Axelrod.

Posted by: Concerned Christian Conservative at September 21, 2008 07:38 PM (M389O)

oy, what does Obama's trial-balloons for his shadow administration have to do with Axelrod's thuggery and sleaze? First off, it's irrelevant; secondly, Obama's just telling us about his intentions, which is hardly a problem; thirdly, how is this even a bad idea?

Actually, don't answer that here, because you've hijacked this thread enough.

Posted by: David Ross at September 21, 2008 07:38 PM (Ugn7H)

51 If a handful of morons, and egotists can find, analyze and disseminate a story, with the FEC not knowing a fucking thing? Then we need to get rid of the FEC.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 07:39 PM (ul7te)

52 #40

Thanks for giving us the Messiah's spin before you could even read the fucking allegations.

"How can you guys prove what I've just established to be unprovable?"

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 21, 2008 07:39 PM (NV3P1)

53 state your name: Axelrod has no direct or provable connection to Barryochus? Are you high?

Posted by: David Ross at September 21, 2008 07:40 PM (Ugn7H)

Maverick,

Thats an odd quote, because Helium, as the lightest of noble gases, is non asmotic.

So if helium leaks, it's because of the containor, not because of the helium.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 07:40 PM (ul7te)

Am I wrong, or didn't Barry O make a claim that he worked on the campaign finance reform bill...the one that was passed even before he was elected?

He's even more awesomer than one can imagine

Posted by: fred at September 21, 2008 07:41 PM (0XpI7)

56 This will only be right-wing internet noise. Alas. Zzzzzz.

Posted by: Themistocles at September 21, 2008 07:41 PM (xN7nw)

57 "Rusty's story"?

That sounds like a bad Lifetime Channel movie about Ace's inappropriate touching.

But seriously, there's no way Axelrod gets thrown under the bus. He IS the Obama campaign. Baracky is just a figurehead.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at September 21, 2008 07:43 PM (YvLui)

58 ack, Osmotic.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 07:43 PM (ul7te)

59 #44 They don't need talking points because this will never see the light of day.

Posted by: state your name at September 21, 2008 07:43 PM (PfmeB)

60 Why will this make it into the news? Seriously. It won't. We all know that. Zzzz.

Posted by: Themistocles at September 21, 2008 07:44 PM (xN7nw)

61 As a Christian Conservative African-American gay evangelical, I am concerned these substantiated relentless partisan attacks may not be good for Michelle's children.

Posted by: Christoph at September 21, 2008 07:44 PM (hawOV)

62 Ok, McCain just lost my vote again. He just said he wants to appoint Andrew Cuomo to replace Chris Cox at the SEC.

So, what's his qualifications? He plays the stock market? And why does McCain always want to appoint fucking democrats? I could understand if Cuomo or Liebermann had some sort of talent that no one else had, but they don't.

Posted by: Booben at September 21, 2008 07:46 PM (tyxqh)

63 Ace, is there any particular reason Rusty would publish just after midnight ET Monday morning? Is that a good time to get something in the news cycle? Or on Drudge?

Posted by: Christoph at September 21, 2008 07:47 PM (hawOV)

64 Midnight?? Damn!

I'll stay up.

Treacher, you're a God.

Posted by: Jay at September 21, 2008 07:49 PM (nhyPd)

65 Look, as long as we get flaming skull I'll be happy.

Posted by: alexthechick at September 21, 2008 07:50 PM (Hwxn9)

66 Rusty is probably hunting rabbits, or working on someones car.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 07:50 PM (ul7te)

67 This won't crack the media. Therefore it is worthless. Therefore we are wasting our time.

Sadly.

Posted by: Themistocles at September 21, 2008 07:51 PM (xN7nw)

68 I can't wait! I want to see a flaming crash n burn of the Nobama campaign! Yee-haaaaww! I will do my feeble part to spread the good news when it arrives.

Posted by: freetofly at September 21, 2008 07:53 PM (foUaY)

69 While I don't disagree that the media won't be sympathetic - since we have nothing to lose, perhaps we want to wait just a little before declaring defeat.

Posted by: AD at September 21, 2008 07:54 PM (PeYVg)

70 the man launched his political career in the living room of a terrorist. the media shrugs. why would they pay attention now?

Posted by: Themistocles at September 21, 2008 07:55 PM (xN7nw)

71 The problem with any "big firm" is leaks. Its almost impossible to vet all the employees for absolute loyalty and even if you could, that loyalty is usually conditional based on the company behaving somewhat reasonably.

Wherever Rusty got the info, the source needs to be prepared to get fired. If the PR firm is astute, the leaker WILL be found out fairly quickly. A sharp internal security staff would be making sure that copies of the vids passed around internally were each uniquely stamped in some manner to ID the recipient. It could be as simple as altering a pixel on an image in one of the corners that nobody will notice, or making a pause between cuts 1/10's of a second longer or shorter.

At IBM we used to send out specs and software to customers where each package had a different internal code name, none of which matched out own internal code name for the project.. Then when some story appeared in PC Week about IBM's new project codename "XYZ", you'd know right away which customer leaked to PC Week just by the code name used.

We'd also play games with the time/date stamps on distribution files making them slightly different for each beta site customer. Then if some code appeared in the wild, the time/date stamps would tell you who leaked it.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 21, 2008 07:59 PM (hzcgO)

72 Axelrod=ACORN=Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac insanity? And all those currently being caught for voter fraud? Or all those Alinsky connections and connections with Ayers? It is a tangled web they have woven over there at the We Hate America Party once known as the DNC. When you long for the days of Tip O'Neil you know things have gone amuck. These dudes like Axelrod are off the moonbat, Marxism hook!

GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!

Posted by: freeus at September 21, 2008 08:00 PM (zxRJP)

73 Treacher, you're a God.

Huh?

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 21, 2008 08:00 PM (NV3P1)

74 Well, you ARE.

Come on, stomp around a bit, all God like.

Posted by: Enigmaticore at September 21, 2008 08:01 PM (8V2F2)

75 Don't complain Jim -- roll with it ;->

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 21, 2008 08:01 PM (hzcgO)

76 >>So, what's his qualifications?

Andrew Cuomo was Bill Clinton's head of HUD after Cisneros flamed out. He, as much as any person, is responsible for the fucked up politicization of Fannie and Freddie that created the nightmare we are going through right now.

The next idiot that says the President has nothing to do with the economy, really ought to think about not voting.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2008 08:01 PM (WL5K6)

77 Look, I'm sorry to be a killjoy, but this is going to go precisely nowhere. The MSM is in the tank for Obama, in fact, at this point they need to buy a bigger tank, so you know they're either not going to cover it, or take active steps to bury it. And as far as everyone else is concerned, nobody gives a rat's ass about this kind of "inside baseball" scandal stuff except political junkies like us. Where's the outrage going to come from? Maybe if this were a week before the election this story might have some legs, but this far out? I don't think so.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 21, 2008 08:02 PM (/GQkp)

We, who are about to blog-comment, salute you:

http://___502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=300bmpmt6.png

Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 21, 2008 08:02 PM (NnAGL)

79 If this is any indication of how he's campaigning at the moment, we may not need to worry about if/when the MSM picks this up.

Posted by: Gran at September 21, 2008 08:02 PM (mTWN+)

80 #53 are you stupid? Axelrod's alleged connections to the YouTube ads.

Which means nothing if it cannot be proved.

Posted by: state your name at September 21, 2008 08:05 PM (PfmeB)

Posted by: DngrMse at September 21, 2008 08:06 PM (9R22S)

82 Still, though - maybe we want to wait for the story before declaring it can't be proved.

Posted by: AD at September 21, 2008 08:06 PM (PeYVg)

83 Did you guys run this story by the LA Times, first?

Posted by: Editor at September 21, 2008 08:07 PM (p4YSL)

84 Yoink. That last was supposed to have words and stuff in it. Like these words:

I don't get the waiting til midnight thing. Are they waiting til past Obama's bed time?

Posted by: DngrMse at September 21, 2008 08:07 PM (9R22S)

85 Treacher,

I know of no other blogger that makes me literally laugh out loud like you do.

I guess saying, "You're a God" was more interesting than saying, "Treacher, that was funny."

Posted by: Jay at September 21, 2008 08:10 PM (nhyPd)

86 Somebody somewhere coined the phrase "Axelrod of Evil".

I can dig that!

Posted by: Brian72 at September 21, 2008 08:11 PM (h6lGQ)

87 Sounds like more racism! Shame on you!

Posted by: America's conscience at September 21, 2008 08:14 PM (8IWMm)

88 Oh. Well, thanks, guys!

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 21, 2008 08:14 PM (NV3P1)

89 Me too.

Posted by: Zelda Starr at September 21, 2008 08:14 PM (OLbi5)

90 37 To those people who are looking now for the article on Jawa's site, what do you think Ace meant when he wrote, "It'll be posted later. Midnight ET or maybe a bit after."

I thought it was code for "check the Jawa Report every three minutes, starting now".

Posted by: DngrMse at September 21, 2008 08:15 PM (9R22S)

91 Bambi's response, "There is nothing to this story because that part of election law is up to interpretation. Of course it will stop, but nobody "connected" to my campaign has done anything wrong."

On second thought, Bambi won't address the problem personally. If it's addressed at all some flack will do it.

Unless Juan decides to make a big stink about it, it'll be a absorbed as another drop in the MSM tank.

I'm sorry but if nothing has stuck to Bambi yet, why should we think this would? Nothing short of him literally getting caught with his pants down in the company of a male prostitute with a hundred eyewitnesses will stick. Anything short of this is racism.

Posted by: rockhead at September 21, 2008 08:16 PM (DvaIL)

92 Whoa! Check Gran's link, y'all. Obama loses his shit a little at some old lady in Florida.

Flooooshhhh. The sound of eight million campaign bucks hitting the septic tank.

Posted by: S. Weasel at September 21, 2008 08:17 PM (Dy8+A)

93 "Dang, if Axelrod is thrown under the bus, who will Obama have left?"

Penny Pritzker. For a few days.

Posted by: Dave J at September 21, 2008 08:19 PM (qsGH+)

94 getting caught with his pants down in the company of a male prostitute with a hundred eyewitnesses will stick

That could probably be arranged. All it would take is someone willing to cough up some heavy green to get into one of the fund raisers, then get photographed shaking hands with Obama.

Some notorious kiddie porn producer would probably be even better.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 21, 2008 08:20 PM (hzcgO)

95 Opening bit at the Emmey's and we get the first crack about Palin.

I hate those c*cks*ckers!

Posted by: state your name at September 21, 2008 08:20 PM (PfmeB)

96 It is no longer possible for the Democratic Party to be brought down by any kind of scandal. If it every was. The MSM will fly in teams of reporters to look under every rock in Anchorage, but when it comes to the Democrats, they'll roll over like a cheap whore. God's holy wounds, look at Teddy Kennedy. The man out-and-out committed murder, and not only did he skate, but now he's fawned over as the "Lion of the Senate."

And so now ace and Rusty think that they're going to make a big stink with David F'n Axelrod? Good luck with that.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 21, 2008 08:20 PM (/GQkp)

97 Why wait until midnight? Because every right wing blogger in the country is going to post about it tomorrow morning if it's as big as Ace says. Which should push the issue to the top of every search engine.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at September 21, 2008 08:20 PM (cs7ae)

98 As soon as the story is posted, I'll send a link to it to one of our more honest (i.e. leans right) talk radio guys. Rush was big in this area long before he went nationwide - we have a passion for talk radio here.

Also, one of the bigger Democrat falls this year was initiated by our, usually leftwing, local newspaper. That major story has just settled down, leaving a hole in our news cycle. I'm betting that will give the local news folks some motivation to play up something new.

I found his producer's, and executive producer's, email address online, but I've never tipped a story before, and I welcome advice from those who've done the media thing before.

Which one do I send the link to (producer/executive producer)?
Do I cut and paste the story with the link, or link only?
Is it bad form to send it to more than one media person, or should I cover more bases? (TV reporter, print news, etc...)

No, I don't have any personal connections, but I figure it can't hurt to put it out there, as "Concerned Christian making $140,000 a year", or even as myself.

A Concerned Christian making a whole lot less, by about $140,000.

(Not a slacker - my husband works hard, and the Social Security Disability assholes are running 2 years behind in screwing over people who've been paying their fucking salaries for 20+ years. Fuckheads.)

Posted by: Rebecca at September 21, 2008 08:22 PM (NL+2l)

99 Oops... that video I posted is almost a year old...

Still, it's instructive as to his temperament. And they say McCain is a hothead?

Posted by: Gran at September 21, 2008 08:23 PM (mTWN+)

100

It would be great if this becomes big right before the debate.

Posted by: WisCon at September 21, 2008 08:24 PM (RsaX9)

101 S. Weasel-

That was in Iowa during the primaries a year ago. I'm not sure that one is gonna hurt him much now.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2008 08:24 PM (WL5K6)

102 Thanks for the link Gran. I wish I could into one of his event so I could try get Bambi to yell at me.

Somebody needs to start a list of questions that could make him get all pissy. You know, like someone could ask him about his big ears or such.

Posted by: rockhead at September 21, 2008 08:24 PM (DvaIL)

103

To those people who are looking now for the article on Jawa's site, what do you think Ace meant when he wrote, "It'll be posted later. Midnight ET or maybe a bit after."

Christoph, ace changed that link after a few of us asked where the story was. Prior to that it say "It's Rusty's story".

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2008 08:24 PM (P3ErD)

104 Just saw this on HotAir:
_{^{Palin draws crowd of 60,000 in The Villages}}http://news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080921/NEWS0107/80921022

video here: http://www.local6.com/politics/17523782/detail.html

Posted by: Sofia at September 21, 2008 08:25 PM (8Gx8M)

105 ahem, stupid me:

Palin draws crowd of 60,000 in The Village

Posted by: Sofia at September 21, 2008 08:27 PM (8Gx8M)

106 #50 Wait, are you ace??? Oh, then I do not care what you think.

The second point is the most important, nonetheless: Obama and Pelosi want to delay as much as possible the President's plan because he needs the turmoil to have an insurmountable bounce. Is that off-topic? Not exactly: it is another sign that Obama, the liar, is truly willing to do anything, even evil itself, to win this election.

Posted by: oy at September 21, 2008 08:27 PM (QoSW2)

107

Don't you people know there's a football game on right...ohhhhh.

So that's why he's waiting!

Posted by: Dave in Texas at September 21, 2008 08:28 PM (eiOZw)

108

I realize fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, but I can't find the story you're linking on jawa's page.

That reminds me, I need another drink!

Posted by: April at September 21, 2008 08:29 PM (5c/HY)

109 WTF? 60,000??? And the TV Station article said Bush attracked 15,000 in '04??

Holy shit.

Posted by: Editor at September 21, 2008 08:31 PM (p4YSL)

110
I agree with OregonMuse. Fifty percent of the American electorate wants Obama and will vote for him no matter what. No scandal is going to change the mind of those voters. However ...

However, we learned from the past two elections that every vote really is important. If a few swing voters or independents can be persuaded by a scandal in the Obama camp to vote for McCain, then publicizing the scandal and making a lot of noise about it may be just what's needed to push McCain over the top.

Every vote in this election is going to be important. Even if you don't like McCain all that much, but understand that Obama is much, much worse, then please don't sit this one out. Vote Republican, even if you have to hold your nose to do it.

Posted by: Steve (aka Ed Snate) at September 21, 2008 08:33 PM (VfQkn)

111 32 Won't matter, nothing will happen. A democrat could be caught with a dead girl or a live boy and it would only enhance their stature.

Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at September 21, 2008 07:23 PM (kNqJV)

Thats funny as shit because sadly its true

Posted by: allahallahoxenfree at September 21, 2008 08:34 PM (dj+es)

112 Palin draws crowd of 60,000 in The Village

Patrick MacGoohan could not be reached for comment.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at September 21, 2008 08:34 PM (MMC8r)

113 Cue the tank...

Posted by: mesablue at September 21, 2008 08:35 PM (5yNaE)

114 It was Palin's first visit to Florida since being named to the Republican ticket and tens of thousands of people turned out to see the self-described "hockey mom" and former small-town mayor. Estimates ranged from 25,000 to 60,000 though the numbers were impossible to verify.

Whatever the total, it was huge, and hundreds sweated for hours under a brutal Florida sun that cooked The Villages' downtown to a toasty 90 degrees. The sun was too much for many, and officials estimated they treated more than 100 people for heat-related health problems.

Talk about Palinmania...

Posted by: Sofia at September 21, 2008 08:37 PM (8Gx8M)

115 Heh, The Villages.

The commercials for that place run all night here. Can't get that song out of my head. Wondered if it really existed and wasn't just some swamp developers were trying to sell shoreline on.

Here you go.

Posted by: mesablue at September 21, 2008 08:38 PM (5yNaE)

116 If a tree falls....

Posted by: Themistocles at September 21, 2008 08:39 PM (xN7nw)

117 Having problems with the urls today ... here

Posted by: Sofia at September 21, 2008 08:41 PM (8Gx8M)

118 56 This will only be right-wing internet noise. Alas. Zzzzzz.

60 Why will this make it into the news? Seriously. It won't. We all know that. Zzzz.

67 This won't crack the media. Therefore it is worthless. Therefore we are wasting our time.

Sadly.

70 the man launched his political career in the living room of a terrorist. the media shrugs. why would they pay attention now?

116 If a tree falls....

It keeps falling the same way over and over. We get it.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 21, 2008 08:42 PM (NV3P1)

119

and hundreds sweated for hours under a brutal Florida sun

I'm sweating right now just thinking of sarah, and I'm in Chicago, or rather the environs.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 08:44 PM (ul7te)

120 Won't matter, nothing will happen. A democrat could be caught with a dead girl or a live boy and it would only enhance their stature.

Looking at Ted Kennedy and Gary Studds, and I'd have to say you are right....

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2008 08:45 PM (2/riP)

121

If a tree falls in the forest, and noone is there does it make a sound?

Probably, but who cares cuz we will hear about that fucking tree forever!!!!

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 08:47 PM (ul7te)

122 I hate that tree.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 08:47 PM (ul7te)

123 Ha-ha.

I'm even boring myself.

Out.

Posted by: Themistocles at September 21, 2008 08:48 PM (xN7nw)

124 Treacher was awesome reacting to O&A suspension last year.

Preparing to dip my balls in this story... _{(if not there is always apple butter)}

Posted by: POTL at September 21, 2008 08:48 PM (mD4t/)

125 I wonder if Sarah spanks herself for not entering the primaries.

We could have had a Palin/Thompson ticket. Oh well.

Posted by: eman at September 21, 2008 08:49 PM (TE1SV)

126 I have ALWAYS hated that stupid fucking tree, because -- you know why? Because you need to DEFINE YOUR FUCKING TERMS before I'll answer your stupid faux-philosophical pussy question.

What is "sound"? Is it the mere production of waves in the air, or the production of sound waves and RECEPTION of them by a listener? Define. Your. Terms.

I may be an artist, but I have the soul of an engineer.

Posted by: S. Weasel at September 21, 2008 08:51 PM (Dy8+A)

127

>fifty percent of the American electorate wants Obama

There's evidence that fifty percent of the American electorate tells pollsters it wants Obama

also- there seems to be a Themistocles in the room. maybe the screen door was left ajar.

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 21, 2008 08:53 PM (KOkrW)

128 120 Won't matter, nothing will happen. A democrat could be caught with a dead girl or a live boy and it would only enhance their stature.

Looking at Ted Kennedy and Gary Studds, and I'd have to say you are right....

Don't forget my Boy Lollipop Bawney Fwank & his Prostitute Boyfriend running it from his basement

Posted by: PaREP> at September 21, 2008 08:53 PM (dWdDN)

129 and hundreds sweated for hours under a brutal Florida sun

I'm sweating right now just thinking of sarah, and I'm in Chicago, or rather the environs.

eman:

I wonder if Sarah spanks herself [...]

I'm a bad person...

Posted by: Sofia at September 21, 2008 08:56 PM (8Gx8M)

130 I bet it's a scandi tree, S. Weasel.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 08:56 PM (ul7te)

131 50% of americans hate that fucking tree.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 08:58 PM (ul7te)

132 Within 5 years, the Dem Party will splinter into 2 parties. The code pink, Eco, and socialist/communism/Eurotrash is chic crazies on one side and 6 or so normal people on the other side.

Posted by: allahallahoxenfree at September 21, 2008 09:01 PM (dj+es)

133 50% of Americans heard the tree fall, but are still going to vote for Obama.

Posted by: eman at September 21, 2008 09:01 PM (TE1SV)

134 50% of Americans think WickedPinto is batshit crazy.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 21, 2008 09:04 PM (/GQkp)

135 .00001% of Americans are carrying axes looking for that tree.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 09:04 PM (ul7te)

136 50% of Americans think Jim Treacher huffs cat pee.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 21, 2008 09:04 PM (/GQkp)

137 I wished I lived in a different state than Illinois so my vote would count.

It would be nice if there were a way that the rest of the state could secede from Chicago.

Posted by: Blarg the Destroyer at September 21, 2008 09:04 PM (PcJ/l)

138 Distractions distractions distractions.

It doesn't matter if 98% of the voters want Palin and mark McCain to get her, the final say so is owned by the people that sign the tally sheets--and they are pretty much at the brck and call of the machine.

Posted by: Larry Sheldon at September 21, 2008 09:05 PM (OmeRL)

139 Oregon, your poll, is WAY biased against the crazy vote.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 09:05 PM (ul7te)

140 Treacher was awesome reacting to O&A suspension last year.

Talk about going against your own party...

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 21, 2008 09:05 PM (NV3P1)

141 Look at the latest RCP electoral map. Florida went from leaning McCain to toss-up. Not to be to pessimistic but I think we're f*cked.

Posted by: state your name at September 21, 2008 09:05 PM (PfmeB)

142 "Correction: The latest is that the law does not seem to require disclaimers naming the producers/sponsors of an internet ad if it was placed for free and not for fee. As it seems to have just been placed on YouTube in the normal course of things (that is, people from the firm just uploading it without paying YouTube), it doesn't look like this is outright illegal.

"As far as that part goes, at least."

Pretty big fucking part. It's just as well you figured that out before launching the piece.

I become less and less convinced this is going to have a huge impact on the race. The astroturfing stuff might be interesting though.

Posted by: Christoph at September 21, 2008 09:06 PM (hawOV)

143 And that's an important demographic, WP.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 21, 2008 09:06 PM (/GQkp)

144 121 - If a tree falls in the forest, and no one is there does it make a sound?

No, but somewhere a hippie is crying, and that is awseome.

Posted by: Sofia at September 21, 2008 09:06 PM (8Gx8M)

145

What if 98% of voters, heard the tree fall?

I'm just airing the question.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 09:06 PM (ul7te)

146 Dumpster Muffin's tree is gonna fall.

MUAHAHAHA!!!

Posted by: mesablue at September 21, 2008 09:08 PM (5yNaE)

147 If a tree falls in the woods, is the glass half-full of hobo blood?

Posted by: POTL at September 21, 2008 09:08 PM (mD4t/)

148 Your wife would still tell you you're wrong.

Posted by: Arbalest at September 21, 2008 09:09 PM (1j+ex)

149 50% of Americans think Jim Treacher huffs cat pee.

Treacher: ammonia addict

Posted by: allahallahoxenfree at September 21, 2008 09:10 PM (dj+es)

150

This really isn't allowed to interfere with that wonderful piece on 60 minutes that shows us how wonderful and marvelous Barry is.

Thank you so much Scott Pelley, I love you. You are so wonderful for letting us all know who Barry is. I had no idea. You are great, as is Barry.

Thank you CBS for the education. I will now submit.

Posted by: Senator Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller at September 21, 2008 09:11 PM (vFeQi)

151

I'm not kidding, I hate that fucking tree.

I would like to have a discussion with someone not tossing up axiomatic conundrums for the purpose of some bullshit unthought out philosophy.

Luckily, I'm a "man" (biologicaly) with nothing to lose (fact) so I have fists to override self righteous idiots.

Actually, I'm a very pascive sorta guy, I will take hits, until I decide to deliver them.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 09:11 PM (ul7te)

152 "Patrick MacGoohan could not be reached for comment."

That's because The One is Number One.

Posted by: kal at September 21, 2008 09:13 PM (U6DIy)

153

50% of Americans think Longbows, were the primary strategic foundation of all of Englands early successes.

Ace either disagree's or doesn't care.

OR! Does Ace hate Longbows?

Is he a Longbowist?

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 09:13 PM (ul7te)

154 New topic:
Who would spite f#ck Pelosi?

Posted by: allahallahoxenfree at September 21, 2008 09:13 PM (dj+es)

155

I'd look at her naked allahallahoxenfree.

She is STACKED!!!

Me likies boobies, boobies nice.

They are like a tree in the....

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 09:15 PM (ul7te)

156 I'm trying to save a planet here dammit!

Posted by: allahallahoxenfree at September 21, 2008 09:17 PM (dj+es)

157 So does 'the correction' mean that all the air just came out of the scoop?

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 21, 2008 09:18 PM (KOkrW)

158

The latest is that the law does not seem to require disclaimers naming the producers/sponsors of an internet ad if it was placed for free and not for fee.

Uh...wouldn't someone have checked that technicality like FIRST?

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2008 09:19 PM (P3ErD)

159

#154

Not with Wp's dick and Tushar pushin'

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 21, 2008 09:20 PM (KOkrW)

160
@140 Treacher, I think you and Glenn Beck, thats about it. Everybody else wanted to burn them at the stake for something a crazy hobo said. Frrrrunkis!

If a tree falls in the woods and nobody hears it... does it turn into thousands of longbows?

Posted by: POTL at September 21, 2008 09:20 PM (mD4t/)

161 > The man out-and-out committed murder

OregonMuse, I'm no fan of Kennedy, but I think that in legal terms it might be something closer to "negligent homicide." Murder, as I understand it, involves a man, a plan, a canal, and Panama.

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at September 21, 2008 09:20 PM (WOKHX)

162 MC?Cain needs to have a stronger Fannie Mae/ Raines/Johnson ad. McCain introduced a bill in 2005 in an attempt to reform F & F. BHO et al fought it.

Posted by: john Austin TX personal trainer at September 21, 2008 09:22 PM (yYvAH)

163 Christoph or Eyore...

the answers to your questions....

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. No
5. No

any more questions?

Posted by: Kaptain Amerika at September 21, 2008 09:22 PM (h+zve)

164

Jones, if you were using my Dick you prolly couldn't hit that anyways.

Basicaly It's like a shiny mushroom, peaking out of a rather abundent growth of moss.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 09:24 PM (ul7te)

165 Treacher, you're a God.

His fish & chips weren't bad, either.

Posted by: lmg at September 21, 2008 09:25 PM (A/vgC)

166

the bookies hate to lose money on elections-

check the odds here.

http://tiny.cc/AAZvv

Posted by: Wankin' Walter at September 21, 2008 09:26 PM (D2u9j)

167 I'm gobsmacked.

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 21, 2008 09:27 PM (KOkrW)

168 mccain saying cuomo is to help the 4% undecided see mccain as a bi- partisan politican. Same reason he threw out Lieberman. Mccain knows he can't winwithout the undecided so let's cut his campaign a little slack.

Posted by: Ricki at September 21, 2008 09:33 PM (4EQPW)

169

Wankin?

I totaly read that, the first time, as "The boobies hate to lose money on elections."

Thank god you said bookies. Because I hate angry and hateful boobies.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 09:35 PM (ul7te)

170 Would this be a bad time to bring out the cowbell and start singing "Don't Fear The Treacher"?

Posted by: Zettai Zettai at September 21, 2008 09:41 PM (Z9IOH)

171 >>mccain saying cuomo is to help the 4% undecided see mccain as a bi- partisan politican

Are you insane? We are literally teetering on a failure that would only be equalled by the great depression. That isn't hyperbole. If we don't get a resolution soon this election will be a story that will rank somewhere behind who is going to coach the Raiders after Kiflin gets fired in world importance. Nobody will give a fuck who wins when they are watching trillions of dollars of national wealth and much or their personal wealth disappear. And McCain thinks its smart to suggest he wants to put as watchdog at the SEC one of the guys who is most responsible for this nightmare?

Yea, super Mavery.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 21, 2008 09:42 PM (WL5K6)

172 93 "Dang, if Axelrod is thrown under the bus, who will Obama have left?"

Penny Pritzker. For a few days.

Fucking cunt is as dirty as the rest of them...just Google her name and read about Superior...

153

50% of Americans think Longbows, were the primary strategic foundation of all of Englands early successes.

Ace either disagree's or doesn't care.

OR! Does Ace hate Longbows?

Is he a Longbowist?

YOU ARE ALL RACIST...YOU HATE CROSSBOWS!

154 New topic:
Who would spite f#ck Pelosi?

I wouldn't fuck Pelosi with Ace's dick...now if it was WP's dick, I'd be laying some SERIOUS pipe on her!

LAY THAT PIPE!

Posted by: Eeyore's Swinging Sack at September 21, 2008 09:42 PM (VYEVW)

173 "Not to be to pessimistic but I think we're f*cked."

I'm gonna have to take you in, stateyourname.

Posted by: Officer Paddy O'Irony de Blog at September 21, 2008 09:47 PM (nOQ1R)

174 Trees?
Crying hippies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSEaHyzbqTA

Posted by: politicalmuse at September 21, 2008 09:50 PM (kLKnf)

175

"Not to be to pessimistic but I think we're f*cked."

If you are gonna put us in that bag, can I PLEASE be in the same one as Sarah?

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 09:54 PM (ul7te)

176 Either no one else in here has any idea about tipping stories to the media, or even ideas or suggestions for me, or

You're all too busy trying to suck your own dicks and crying because you can't quite reach.

Jeez. What happened to that gung ho group that was going to out-activist the activists, send emails, make phone calls, boycott the media, and kick ass? Wasn't that just last fucking night?

That Valu-Rite vodka sure leaves a nasty hangover. The kind that lead to massive depression and despair.

It must make dicks shorter too, but keep trying guys, you'll limber up.

Posted by: Rebecca at September 21, 2008 10:09 PM (NL+2l)

177 Hold on, I'm writing this down... "Dicks... vodka... more dicks..." Which was the part after "more dicks"?

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 21, 2008 10:12 PM (NV3P1)

178

Becca?

I have been warned against this, but I think there is an allowance for this sort of situation.

I would GLADLY not suck my own dick (if only I could, that would ROCK, but really the taste of cemen makes me gag)

But since you came in to assist us? Could YOU, suck my dick?

Or at least tickle my balls as I masturbate?

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 10:13 PM (ul7te)

179 Shorter, Treacher. I know that's harsh, but I'm going for the naughty librarian dominatrix thing. I hear it's the latest craze.

Posted by: Rebecca at September 21, 2008 10:13 PM (NL+2l)

180 Sorry WP, that virtual stuff doesn't do it for me.

<sigh> If it will get your attention away from your crotch, TICKLE, TICKLE, TICKLE.

I'll give you guys a few minutes now.

Posted by: Rebecca at September 21, 2008 10:16 PM (NL+2l)

181

BumperStickerist #78 Love the �300 shirtless Morons� photoshop.

Only a moron would oppose the O�juggernaut. Happy morons that somehow just won�t give up like they are supposed to.

As for Ace�s correction; eh, he is a moron too so cut him a break. He has been on a posting roll.

And as a Concerned Conservative Tree who makes about 140,000 a year falling down in forests for wailing hippies and tenured social scientists, I am deeply disappointed at all the raw Tree racism in this thread. I will be voting for the real Tree Healer, Obama.

Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 21, 2008 10:17 PM (2PwTK)

182

HAHAH Becca.

I'm not like that, I just capitalize on the joke when it presents itself.

You did great!!!

Becc's is my new best friend!!!!

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 10:19 PM (ul7te)

183 Shorter, Treacher. I know that's harsh

It would need to be comprehensible first.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 21, 2008 10:19 PM (NV3P1)

184 Got any hot friends? preferably with gigundous juggs? Of course female, but I'm not picky.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 10:20 PM (ul7te)

185 Treacher: I just meant that the part after dicks, was the word, "shorter". It wasn't a shot at you or anything, and wasn't terribly clear on reread.

WP: We might as well be best friends, as it looks like I might break your record for being banned.

sheesh, I just get all irritated when everyone gets pessimistic and negative-nelly in advance. We used to wait till we were actually dissed by the media, now we just bitch preemptively.

Posted by: Rebecca at September 21, 2008 10:27 PM (NL+2l)

186 Rebecca: We need to do something when we're waiting for someone to plant a stick of dynamite up Obama's ass.

Posted by: Zettai Zettai at September 21, 2008 10:30 PM (Z9IOH)

187 I have a bucket of kettle corn popped and I wait patiently. This is so exciting.

Posted by: Esteban at September 21, 2008 10:35 PM (X7Ey1)

188

HAH! bec's

You the same bec's from like 2 years ago, when we were looking at. . . I wanna say arizona, but that was Deb, it was another story after that, you the same Becca from back then?

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 10:35 PM (ul7te)

189 Fuck pessimism. I am at least partially dipping my yambag in this.

Posted by: POTL at September 21, 2008 10:37 PM (mD4t/)

190 There's already a dozen sticks of dynamite crammed up his majesty's ass. We're waiting for someone to find a freaking match.

I knew this war on smokers would screw the non-smokers too, but would anybody listen...?

Posted by: Rebecca at September 21, 2008 10:38 PM (NL+2l)

191 Nah WP, I'm new around here. Last place anyone saw me online (before this year) was back in alt.folklore.urban.

I miss those people.

Posted by: Rebecca at September 21, 2008 10:40 PM (NL+2l)

192 Wait...alt.folklore.urban?

How the hell is urban culture able to be translated into folklore? I look at it and see nothing but a cliched rap album!

Otherwise, welcome to the crew, Rebecca. And, for note, I am seriously waiting to see what October Surprise will hit the Stevie Wonder wannabe's ass.

Posted by: Zettai Zettai at September 21, 2008 10:47 PM (Z9IOH)

193

You frequented the Alt, nets?

Man, thats a big leap from back then to now. I know.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 10:52 PM (ul7te)

194 Thanks ZZ. Now that I've gotten my first pornographic-type post out of my system, I'm feeling a little more comfy. Bathrobe comfy. Maybe pajamas comfy soon.

You've heard of snopes, right? Snopes was originally the faq for alt.folklore.urban. The vast majority of the debunking found there was done by the a.f.u gang.

Posted by: Rebecca at September 21, 2008 10:54 PM (NL+2l)

195 Palin Wows the Villages People

that sounds almost wrong, but pictures there

Commentors seem mostly excited. to quote, "we finally have a real person going to washington" as opposed to the droids we normally elect

Posted by: kat-missouri at September 21, 2008 10:54 PM (io+Si)

196 When blogs first started up, it all seemed to be the Salon snobs. The alts were the wild west, and blogs just didn't attract me. All the freaking fonts and clip art borders and content control. When most of usenet either went moderated or spam filled, a.f.u. kept itself above the fray through sheer force of personality, not to mention the most entertaining newbie taunting that has ever been seen. There was some awesome power there, even though no one has direct control of anything.

They had the greatest faq traps ever. Deliberate misspellings that were tasty bait for anyone that hadn't memorized the damn thing, and legions of trolls howling about being mistreated, having no clue that there wasn't any mommy to cry to, and no one cared about their hurt feelings.

And the smilie wars... good times.

So it took me a while to give blogs a look. The fact that this one seems homey to me should be worrying.

Posted by: Rebecca at September 21, 2008 11:04 PM (NL+2l)

197 If a tree falls in the forest while God is making a wall he cannot climb, then which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Posted by: Warden at September 21, 2008 11:06 PM (KXbGD)

198

Your computer fills your bathtub with machine parts.

What is the value of Q?

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 11:13 PM (ul7te)

199 How many teamsters does it take to pave a driveway?

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 11:14 PM (ul7te)

200 How many angels dancing on the head of a pin does it take to change a lightbulb?

Posted by: Warden at September 21, 2008 11:18 PM (KXbGD)

201

How many teamsters does it take to pave a driveway?

Depends on how think you slice them.

How many people does Obama need to hier to change a light bulb?

None. He just holds the bulb and the universe revolves around him.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 21, 2008 11:26 PM (ul7te)

202 Just got done shaving my junk, so it's now pron star smooth...Did I miss anything???

Posted by: Eeyore's Swinging Sack at September 21, 2008 11:42 PM (VYEVW)

203 The lefty trolls are out at Rusty's. Trying to use greyrooster's racist comments to smear Jawa. Pre-discrediting, it's the latest thing.

I think they underestimate the good Dr. Shackleford's standing.

Posted by: Rebecca at September 21, 2008 11:46 PM (NL+2l)

204

It's a quarter after 12.

You better not be jerking us around, is all I'm saying. I mean, we don't want to lose the Karl Rove Gets Indicted joke we used against Tbagg or FireDogLame or whoever the fuck pushed that meme every damn day.

Posted by: INCITEmarsh at September 22, 2008 12:17 AM (ULsz9)

205 http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php

It's up.

Posted by: Zettai Zettai at September 22, 2008 12:22 AM (Z9IOH)

206 If we are Being Jerked around, I sugest a Longbowalanche.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 22, 2008 12:24 AM (ul7te)

207 I would happily join any organization, no matter how loose or unorganized, that publicly calls itself a.f.u. gang. I seem to have a lot of those f.u.'s sitting around, waiting for disinterested parties at which to toss them.

Posted by: LickyLicky at September 22, 2008 12:24 AM (YIuFN)

208 Expect astroturfers to come in and start talking in...5....4....3....2....1...

Posted by: Zettai Zettai at September 22, 2008 12:43 AM (Z9IOH)

209 Count me in as a blogging voice spreading the word about this appalling dirty tricks campaigning. So much for HopeyChangey.

As I wrote:

If, as Michael Yon says, truth leaks faster than helium, the Obama campaign just became the Hindenburg.

Also, as I live in Florida, I wrote up a special post with loads of photos of Palin's Florida rally in The Villages: <a href="http://futuremd.blogspot.com/2008/09/palin-wows-in-florida.html">Palin Wows In Florida</a>.

Believe it or not, I also went in person to hear The One when he stopped by down in Miami on Friday. I won't link to it directly, but just scroll down. I took about 30 photographs.

Posted by: Victoria at September 22, 2008 06:26 AM (+4fVE)

210 Boo. I brainfarted on the HTML. Sorry 'boot that.

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