1 "THE CHOSEN ONE" Knows he is in DEEP KIMCHEE


http://election08.cs.uiuc.edu/

2 This is a pretty good sign that it's the Obama camp that's scared shitless.

Of course, McCain's been a coward on Social Security all along (as was every non-Fred), so he shouldn't have a problem deflecting this.

3 I'm 32 and had someone in their 50s tell me the other day that social security better be around when it's my time since I'm paying into it.  I laughed so hard.

4 Just doin' what comes naturally.

5 Ace, why don't you make it easy and just tell us what that lying cocksucker is telling the truth about.

6 Who taught him to lie so well and so often? Wright? Pfleger? Oprah?

7

You know, McCain just had a horrible week, the economy looked for a moment to go 1929 on us, Bush has popularity somewhere just above the 30ish percentile, and yet... according to both Hotline and Rasmussen, McCain is within a point??

And knowing how Barry underpolled during the primary season?

I am, to be honest, not feel bad about it. It could be better of course, and I'd rather be ten points ahead instead of one down, but still, not bad at all.

8 Fact Check is nice but granny doesn't read factcheck. We have to get the word out personally, with old fashioned letters and word of mouth. Stuff older people use to communicate, barber shop chat, talk around the shuffleboard table and bingo parlor. We can't let this crap stand, again, like we always do.

Oh, and Obama doesn't lie very well at all, he just does it often. If he didn't have legions of people covering for him and repeating the lies, they wouldn't be believed by anyone.

9 #6
His teenage mentor Frank Marshall Davis.

10

Or overpolled... you know what I mean.

11 Yeah, but they pull this one out of the hat every election year, and it never works.

12 Oh, and Obama doesn't lie very well at all, he just does it often.

Most people improve their skills when they practice. Apparently, he can't even do that right.

13 Correct, the Messiah is being untruthful here, perhaps willingly, but there's an even stronger response to the argument that Social Security funds are better held in the Social Security Trust Fund than in private hands:

THERE IS NO SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND, DUMBASSES!!

The "Trust Fund" is just an accounting gimmick, premised on the idea that a Congress 25, 30, or 45 years from now will vote to cut you a check. With whom do you think your money is safer: some Wall Street asshole who's trying to maximize the return on your money so that he can buy a bigger yacht, or Barney Frank?

14 Obama is up by 1.

The really sad and telling thing is that McCain should be crushing this lying commie jerkoff.  Hell, a rabid collie named "Pete" should be crushing Obama in the polls.  But the commies knew where to hit us when they setup their master plan in the 1950's, and it is slowly coming to fruition.

K

15 If Social Security was a bond, it would be rated "junk".

16

The SlaveDog lives in sunny Florida and has his ear to the ground and his keen SlaveDog nose in the air detecting the redolent wafts of Obama panic.

It's the waft of Obama defeat.

Obama ain't gonna win Florida.  Too many Florida Dems want to have their vote against the One counted in November.  Payback is hell. 

Look it up.  Google it.  Take it to the bank.  Bundle it up and sell it to Franklin Raines.

17 6 Who taught him to lie so well and so often? Wright? Pfleger? Oprah?


SAUL ALINSKY  "RULE FOR RADICAL" Book


14 Obama is up by 1.

The really sad and telling thing is that McCain should be crushing this lying commie jerkoff.  Hell, a rabid collie named "Pete" should be crushing Obama in the polls.  But the commies knew where to hit us when they setup their master plan in the 1950's, and it is slowly coming to fruition.

K

TAKE YOUR PAXIL & OR EFFEXOR EVERYDAY O.K.

This isn't a National election chief, It's a STATE by STATE ELECTION
& McCain/Palin are doing more than fine
Check this site outhttp://election08.cs.uiuc.edu/

18

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/09/al-franken-helped-write-last-nights.html

 

You Republican Pigs.  Fuck you and Powerline too. 

19 Well, it's obviously past the time for our own Conservative meme. Every time I mention that candidate's name, I'll call him a liar. I suggest you all do the same.

OBAMA, THE LIAR
OBAMA, THE LIAR
OBAMA, THE LIAR
OBAMA, THE LIAR

I think that may stick. If a senior citizen you know asks your opinion about Obama, you should immediately say, "You mean, Obama, the Liar?"

20 http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/21/snl-does-mccain-bashing-skit-written-al-franken

Nice to see Al Franken is focused on hos own campaign.

21 Obama is gonna lose Florida. Makes no difference. McCain is up between 5 and 8 here. He's so confident, that he's simply running one ad (in my area), "the original mavericks" ad.

22 McCain is a senior Citizen

Obama is a young punk

McCain should call him out for scaring Senior Citizens with outright Lies

23 If the Messiah is up by 1, it really means Mac us up by about 7 or 8.  Don't trust the polls.  There will be some seriously stunned people on election night when Mac wins by 5 or 6.

24 It's also worth mentioning (again) that long-term investments in the stock market do better than "investment" in Social Security. As Drudge had it yesterday, "DOW UP 40 POINTS IN PAST MONTH - UP 18% PAST 5 YEARS - UP 44% PAST 10 YEARS." Properly diversified investments are not nearly the gamble Obama makes them out to be.

Also, if Democrats are soooo opposed to privatization, why do federal employees get the option to put part of their money in the stock market, while denying it to others?

25 "Ace, why don't you make it easy and just tell us what that lying cocksucker is telling the truth about."

That's going to be a really short post....

26 Jackass McCain better not drop this gift as well like he's done with this financial-mess issue. Just like Obama's desire to pocket $105k from Fannie and Freddie, hire disgraced and nearly-prosectued Fannie CEOs and CFOs for his chief financial advisor roles AND THEN REJECT CALLS FOR REFORM OF FANNIE AND FREDDIE - so too is he showing here that he is no agent of change when it is broken, liberal institutions.

And this should be another notch in McCain belt of calling Obama out as a status quo liberal who only wants to protect or enlarge broken, sticky-finger-government, liberal institutions. But McCain needs to start making this call yesterday.

And it should work. Most Americans believe that SS needs to be fixed even if they dont agree on the exact same course. And here is Obama spreading lies so that he can shoot down any kind of real reform of what eveyone agrees needs reform. That's more of the same. Thats status quo. And he keeps demonstrating it.

And you can even throw in Obama's rejection of the change in   mission in iraq, ie, the Iraqi surge. THERE IS A CONTINUOUS THREAD HERE THAT McCAIN ISN'T DRAWING!

Obama. Change* For Status Quo Liberal Stuff.
*Fine print: Change is defined as "protecting, growing or building government monopolies"

27 AHH OHH The Lead for "THE CHOSEN ONE" is down to 4 in Gallup's Biased Poll

http://http://www.gallup.com/poll/110554/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Leading-McCain-Points.aspx

28 Obama is campaigning in Charlotte today, McCain isn't running any ads here. 

29 McCain/Palin isn't running ads in Indiana & Barry is spending a lot there & he is still down in every poll

30 JP, McCain isn't running any ads in NC because the idea that it's a battleground state is completely ridiculous.

Note, too, that the McCain campaign hasn't actually done Florida ad buys yet.  Any ads us Floridian morons are seeing are national buys.  Obama's spent a mountain of money here while McCain and the RNC still haven't done a thing and are still ahead.  Once they do, Florida'll go GOP by at least 5%.

31 PaREP> at September 21, 2008 01:40 PM (dWdDN)

He has an interesting problem; that the more ads he runs, the less people like him. When Barry flooded florida with ads a few weeks back, his poll numbers actually went down.

Could be that his ads suck (they do) and that the message he conveys in them is confusing (it is).

32 Posted by: Dave J at September 21, 2008 01:41 PM (qsGH+)

Someone put a link on hotair a few weeks back that showed mccain bought like a million dollars in ads in Florida.

33

McCain is a senior Citizen

Obama is a young punk

McCain should call him out for scaring Senior Citizens with outright Lies

And then tell him to get off his lawn.

34

It's also worth mentioning (again) that long-term investments in the stock market do better than "investment" in Social Security. As Drudge had it yesterday, "DOW UP 40 POINTS IN PAST MONTH - UP 18% PAST 5 YEARS - UP 44% PAST 10 YEARS." Properly diversified investments are not nearly the gamble Obama makes them out to be.

It doesn't matter.  Democrats have stoked anti-Wall Street sentiments since FDR.  Their focus is on labor and the fruits thereof.

35 Could be that his ads suck (they do) and that the message he conveys in them is confusing (it is).

So true.  Here in Michigan he has a commercial where he's just speaking and says "This year, change has to be more than a slogan" and then carries on speaking in nothing but basic platitudes. 

36 I saw a moron driving around today in Charlotte, with two Obama bumper stickers next to each other then the entire back window read "Beep for Obama 08".

hopefully this stuff turns more voters off then on.

37 He has an interesting problem; that the more ads he runs, the less people like him. When Barry flooded florida with ads a few weeks back, his poll numbers actually went down.

Could be that his ads suck (they do) and that the message he conveys in them is confusing (it is).

All the above & the biggest one is I think they think he will say anything to get elected & they don't Trust him as far as they could thrown his dead rotting carcass

38 There was a George Will piece a few years ago that showed how investing S.S. money in the stock market would be a huge benefit to the majority of people who need S.S. the most.

39 RedFox84 at September 21, 2008 01:44 PM (vs8h/)

I saw that ad once here in florida, and - admittedly I'm pro McCain - I thought it was awful. He contradicted himself in his own ad.

Then again, he can't really say what he wants to do, because he'll lose 47 states.

I'm glad I live in a red county though, I'm spared most ads. In 2004, I didn't even realize Florida was being just nuked with ads.

40 perhaps FactCheck should also check out the racial ad Obama ran against Limbaugh and to Hispanics.

and also, do a little more "Fact Checking" for their post attacking McCain.  THey got the sex ed ad completely wrong

41 PaREP

I got that link the first time you posted it.

My post was highlighting the idiots who think that marxism is OK.  If the general public had not been brainwashed for the past 60 years or so, then Obama would have been a non starter.  And if you don't think that the former soviet union intentionally infiltrated our education system, I advise you look up who it was that founded the NEA, and what thier politics and stated goals were.

K

42 McCain should run partly on, "You can trust me, you can't trust Obama"..

that would play with alot of weary voters of Obama and McCain is well branded as being the "Straight Talk Express".  Dems know it, why they keep calling McCain/Palin liars, projecting themselves on to them.

43 The hammer is coming down on the magical nutsack of Barry O (the Media Ho)...if some of the papers that originally backed him are calling him out for his lies and the "company" he keeps, then they may not be afraid to endorse McCain if Zero "doesn't change his ways"...Barry's alligator mouth is overloading his hummingbird ass...and may cost him the election.....

44 Sorry not founders of the NEA, but leaders in the 50's-60's

K

45 #42 Excellent suggestion.

"McCain: a man you can trust"

46 McCain said this week that he "puts Country First, Obama puts Obama first" on the stump.

they need to expand on that, tie that message in with Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezko...his scary video wanting to neuter the US militarily...and then stuff like this with Obama lying to Senior Citizens, and doing so as a young punk running against a 72 year old man.

"Obama is one arrogant S.O.B"., would work for me

47 Who taught him to lie so well and so often?

Hi, he's a lawyer.  We're all untrustworthy scum.  Except for me, of course, I am sweetness and light.

48

&Nbsp #37 PaREP> wrote, "He has an interesting problem; that the more ads he runs, the less people like him. When Barry flooded florida with ads a few weeks back, his poll numbers actually went down."


&Nbsp Madison Avenue doesn't know how to sell to Middle America any more.

&Nbsp More evidence of lack of simple competence among the creative class. Even simple things can't get done right, because no one has a clue about the social realities beyond the terminally trendy.

49 My friends, as a concerned pensioner whose only income is from Social Security I am very interested in this policy debate.  My heart has always been conservative but
 this Obama ad seals the deal.  Please don't vote my pension away!

50

 #17 PaREP> wrote, "The really sad and telling thing is that McCain should be crushing this lying commie jerkoff. "

  Via Instapundit

  "Panic is an emotional state. Can't be measured by stats. Maybe there is no reason at all for Obama and the media to panic, still looks like they have. Doesn't it?"

  McCain is crushing Obama. Don't believe the polls. Believe the panic in the Obama campaign.

51 Just practicing  my Astoturfing abilities.   Need work I guess.

52 "Properly diversified investments are not nearly the gamble Obama makes them out to be."

True, but then the liberals would not be in control. Can't have that.

53

#50 exactly right.  I've been telling people for weeks, do NOT look at the polls, watch what the campaigns are doing.  Obama has been running like he is behind for a month now.  McCain got thrown off his game a bit last week but now he is right back on offense. 

My husband has been a big Obama supporter, but I keep gently putting things in front of him like the Palin smear campaign (he likes her), the wilding of the radio station in Chicago, the gaffeathon that is Joe Biden, and now I watch the TV ads with him and point out the lies.  We happen to know Rick Davis and Charlie Black personally, and that ad of Obama's about the lobbyists really pissed him off.  He may just go over the edge if we see this gross Social Security ad here.  He has worked on a lot of Dem campaigns and he is getting more and more annoyed with Obama's.

54 One thing to remember about the Obama campaign: They never expected to win the nomination, and the assembled group was never put together for that purpose. Obama thought he'd score some points in the early primaries, start the process of puffing up his popularity and his resume, then get out and work toward the "real" run in 2012 or 2016.

But then things got weird over there in Ratland, and one day the fucker woke up and realized he somehow hit the Trifecta in the Donk Preakness of Stupid, barely winning by a nose against Hillary.

And ever since, Barack's had two big problems:

1) His campaign staff is made up of arrogant, elitist pricks whose only purpose were to make him a Barackstar inside the already-trending-elitist Democratic Party establishment. They accomplished that, far too well. Now he's left with a campaign staff full of arrogant, elitist pricks that don't know shit about running an actual general election campaign where you have to appeal not just to everyone in your own party that you just spent months intentionally freezing out, but people on the other side as well. And they only know one play: Barack's a Rock Star.

2) Since he only intended to puff up his own PR, Barack didn't NEED any real answers, or to even know that much of anything on most issues. He'd have another four or eight years to work on that in the Senate. But now he's found himself 4-8 years ahead of his own game plan. Result? "Uh, I, well, uh..." followed by plaintive wails to visit his web site for specifics (which have been drawn up by others without much input from Obama himself).

Meanwhile, over here, we've got a candidate that's been living and breathing this issues shit for decades, and a campaign that was designed from the ground up to run the fucking table from day one.

Steve Schmidt is going to eat these losers for breakfast. Their ONLY hope is for McCain to have some sort of meltdown in the debates while Obama does not. Otherwise, the entire game is Schmidt's to lose.

55 Madison Avenue doesn't know how to sell to Middle America any more.

Only when a business or group puts a foot up their ass and tells them who to market to...remember this ad?

http://www.militarytimes.com/multimedia/video/080116marinead/

If it doesn't get you teary-eyed...and make you proud to be an American

56 Almost forgot:

tl;dr Obama campaign doesn't know what it's doing and is making it up as it goes along; McCain camp is like fucking Eisenhower and the Allied Expeditionary Force.

57 Key sentence:

This is the same argument that derailed the President's social security reform plan.

This lie is a proven winning strategy. The media played it to the hilt on SS reform, and they will do it again with no second thoughts. As Ace already pointed out, the press is in this to win it, and all pretense of objectivity are out the window.

November's election isn't about Democrat vs. Republican.

It is a test of the media's power to manipulate public opinion.

58

 

#54 I sort of agree wioth your assessment of the Obama campaign, but I think they very much did expect to win the Democratic nomination.  They just didn't expect John McCain to win the Republican nomination, and they didn't expect him to actually run a serious campaign to win the election.  They thought the landscape was so bad for Republicans because they all drank each other's BDS-infested bathwater, that they would coast to Election Day once they dispatched Hillary.  They thought the GOP would have World War III in its primaries and the winner would be some sort of bible-thumping neocon that they could easliy caricature and laugh at for 6 months, and whoever it was would be broke and have 2/3 if the Republicasn pissed off and staying home.

I still think they expected Mitt Romney to win.  They were not worried about Jeremiah Wright because they thought Romney would not dare bring up religion in a general election campaign (in fact they had planned to run a stealth campaign based on Obama being the "real" Christian).  They thought Obama's inexperience would not matter because Romney was just a one-term Governor himself with zero foreign policy experience.  They were going to ram all of his flip-flops down his throat and then finish him off as a rich elitist who bought companies and then laid everyone off. 

 

They still do not have a clue about how to run against a genuine American hero, who does not fit their stereotype of Republicans, has the experience their guy clearly lacks, has an actual record of reform and Maverickiness, and has now united the Republican Party with his inspired pick of Sarah Palin.  It's clear they are floundering around and firing shotguns all over the place hoping for that one-in-a-million shot that hits McCain in the head.

59 Those familiar with the elections of the last three decades will recall the tired quadrennial trope that "Republicans will take away your Social Security." I would dearly love to see ALL of those old ads strung end-to-end followed by a requested explanation of why this year's demagoguery is any different from before? ("This time they really will" is not the answer.)

Mr. Obama's appeal seems to be based upon his apparent capability to take electoral politics in a new direction. Does this mean going along with the Daley machine, voting in lockstep with Democrats in Congress and campaigning in the fashion to which we've grown accustomed? This is neither change nor reform.

60 42/ jp "McCain should run partly on, "You can trust me, you can't trust Obama".."

Practically writes itself, too:
"This is John McCain's position on the Iraq War, six weeks ago. [soundbite]
"This is John McCain's position on the Iraq War, six months ago. [soundbite]
"This is John McCain's position on the Iraq War, six years ago. [soundbite]
"This is Barack Obama's position on the Iraq War, six weeks ago. [soundbite]
"This is Barack Obama's position on the Iraq War, six months ago. [soundbite]
"This is Barack Obama's position on the Iraq War, six years ago. [soundbite]
Next day:
"This is John McCain's position on energy policy, six weeks ago. [soundbite]
"This is John McCain's position on energy policy, six months ago. [soundbite]
"This is John McCain's position on energy policy, six years ago. [soundbite]
"This is Barack Obama's position on energy policy, six weeks ago. [soundbite]
"This is Barack Obama's position on energy policy, six months ago. [soundbite]
"This is Barack Obama's position on energy policy, six years ago. [soundbite]
Next day:
etc etc etc

61 57/ Krakatoa "This is the same argument that derailed the President's social security reform plan.
This lie is a proven winning strategy. The media played it to the hilt on SS reform, and they will do it again with no second thoughts."

Last time around, AARP was hugely committed to torpedoing the reform, and backed dumptrucks full of cash up to the media outlets to keep the bullshit pumps flowing. 
A year or so ago, I saw an AARP-sponsored commercial to the effect that S.S. reform IS needed.  I kind of flipped out about the astounding hypocrisy there, but today am wondering ... did some kind of learning actually take place, there? 
In practical terms, is AARP in Obumbler's tank, this season? 

62 PaREP, that map shows my home state MI as blue, but the recent criminal based troubles and resignation of the Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick along with the low approval rating of Gov Grandholm, may just throw a wrench into the DEM political machine here.

63 If you look at everything going on in this country OBAMA should be at least 20 points in lead of the polls. But he is not, it shows that much of this country is just not sold on his HOPE and CHANGE(tm)

64 McCain's best friend forever Joe Lieberman was sent to FLA by Al Gore to terrorize the oldsters, and NE Jewish population, with these exact arguments back in the 2000 campaign. It's the same every election.

65

I would not be so sure that Obama can Florida.  The Bradley effect may come into play with a lot of the older Jewish voters-and there are a lot of older Jewish voters in Florida.

 

BTW, someone should send the Obama You tube nonsense to PumaPac and let them run with it.

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