1 ""Director of Annual Giving.""

Seriously?  What kind of a job is that.,,,,,,oh, yea..."community organizer".

2

I can't speak to the SacBee's politics, but the Torygraph wouldn't astroturf for an individual like Obama.

I think it's safe to call this a "punking". Well played, Ms Castiglione...

3 The "Torygraph" has liberal reporters, and further, even the most "conservative" Brits are kinda socialists who fear american military power.

4 As a lifelong conservative christian, I'm concerned about the tone of the Republican, Trish, interviewed for these stories.

5

The "Torygraph" has liberal reporters, and further, even the most "conservative" Brits are kinda socialists who fear american military power.

As they should. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. 

6 These reporters never even worked the crowd. Just stood there and quoted the event organizer. Lazy SOBs.
What's next movie quotes for commercials about how great it was from the actors and producers on the way out of the premier?

7 The SacBee(Ess) has always been know to have a Lefty bent.

8 Ooops.

9 "The only thing she knows about is oil. She was kind of wishy-washy," said Trish Castiglione, a 38-year-old foundation officer at Grand Rapids Community College, which held the event. "I came in knowing I would vote for them — I don't know now."

Her husband Joe, an undecided voter, sat listening carefully to both speakers. He said: "I liked McCain, he knows his stuff, but she needs to work on her delivery. There were not a lot of facts. The only thing she knows about is oil. Other than that she was wishy-washy. "

I liked Cats. I'm going to see it again and again. At least they could have spent a few seconds and thought up different talking points.

10 Read this story and can only think: Straw. Camel. Broken back.

Booze tonight for me. I'm done.

11 Two weeks ago I had never even heard of 'astroturfing', much less had any idea what it meant.  I sure as hell understand it now though...

12 I can't speak to the SacBee's politics, but the Torygraph wouldn't astroturf for an individual like Obama.

Boris Johnson has endorsed Obama.

13 It's just a coinkydink.

14 The Telegrapgh may be like the WSJ, where the editorials (excluding the amnnesty disaster)are conservative, but the rest of the paper is liberal.

15 OT heads up, since I can't find a "contact me" button, NASA will hold a news conference (for media only I think) next Tuesday on the problems with the Sun, no spots, solar wind down, that kind of thing.  Maybe some of the folks at NASA have decided that James WhateverhisnameisguyshillforGore needs a public  spanking.

16 anybody got an email address for "Republican" Trish Castiglione? I, for one,  would be interested in having some "follow-up" conversations with her........as I'm sure would thousands of others.

17

How does one see all this shit and remain a Democrat?  Yeah, that's my party:

Kos Kidz

Trig Truthers

Gay Columnist Trig Truthers

Joy Behar

Chess fags what hack into personal email accounts

Vegans

This guy

Code Pink

How do you pretend to be engaged in adult issues and still say, "Yeah, that's my party."  More basically, how do you pretend to be a  MAN and roll with the fucking carnies that make up the Democrat party?

 

18 The Torygraph has shifted way, WAY left of late, and they're exasperated with the country bumpkin Sarah Palin. Trust me on this: I get a faceful of this snooty British shit all the time.

Has anybody checked her for donations? I would, but I forgot the URL.

19

I wonder if there's astroturfing (or double-reverse secret astroturfing) going on in the polls to mess with the party ID numbers or something.

I don't know if that'd actually work, but I don't have a devious mind.  Also, it's Friday afternoon.

 

20 The Sacramento Bee is one of the worst "news"papers I have ever read and they are sinking fast. I quit reading it soon after I moved to the region and I have always been an avid newspaper reader. It is just a typical uber-liberal fishwrapper. 

21 s weasel,

I checked, I couldn't find anything under the name castiglione.

opensecrets.org

22 Empire of Jeff at September 19, 2008 05:07 PM (bu0Ek)

Better than being an AmeriKKKan loving Rethuglican!

23 How does one see all this shit and remain a Democrat?

That's what pushed me and my friends over to the other side many years ago:  Couldn't take the lies anymore.

24 sorry unrelated to post, but did anyone notice that the current Drudge "fireworks" picts with Dow headline show people giving the finger?  Who are these people, the Obama socialists that hate to see capitalism alive and strong?

25 Some ugly cock sucker from the Politico just repeated the "Palin was hiding her government related e-mails on her personal account!!!"  Martha McCallum managed a meek "Well, that is under contention" comment.  Bring back Gibson to take on these "reporters."

26

pcastiglione@grcc.edu

 

Thats her email if anyone would like to ask her some followup questions.

27 I used to vote split party, primarily because one of my state senators is a pretty decent guy (I've met him on numerous occasions).  The day the dims pulled The Torch out and put in Lautenberg, I vowed never to vote for another democrat as long as I live.  And I don't even live in New Jersey!

They cheated and laughed about it.

K

28 ...[Palin] needs to work on her delivery.

hahaha @ husband Joe. What is this, a fucking talent show? Idiot.

29 If you Google "Castiglione "grand rapids"", you will find many newspapers have picked this story up.  If it can be proven that she is a plant, then this is the story that needs to be told.  Not sure by who though, the MSM is the one being exposed.

30

A "Republican" is basing voting determinations on the answers of the VP candidate to questions?  REALLY?  This is the first time that she considered how she would vote and this was the mechanism?

The bullshit meter just grabbed a bottle of my best single malt and jumped out the window.

31 She probably goes by her maiden name. Notice how her husband's last name is omitted. Donations, if any, are probably under husband's name.

32

Aarrrrrr!

As a lifelong lover of sailing, pillaging, and rum-drinking, I am concerned about this here false planting of the land-lubber's playing surface.

This Hussein be no true captain. He be sailing in the calm, and rowing in the storm. He can't decide if he loves the land more than the sea. The wind be blowing him from port to port, with no true heading.

This man, if man he be, sends forth his crew, and they are a vile, and scurvy lot. Arrr, they've fought many a battle upon the heaving waves, but himself, he hides in his cabin, cowering in his own sweat, reeking of his own fear.

Fear not, me hearties! Yer fellow freebooters will not be taken in by his shallow deceptions!

Now Hoist Ye Colors! And leave none to tell the tale!

33

As a Concerned Christian Conservative, I must say that Grand Rapids is about the most conservative area of Michigan.  Terry Land is the Rethuglican Secretary of State.  That said, my Astroturfing sensors went up when I read this.

 

"Bob" 

34 They are out today.  It took me 5-seconds for the BS meter to hit on a Medved caller, today.

Um, I was strongly leaning towards McCain until this Sarah Palin lady showed up.  I don't want another conservative in the federal blah blah blah blah....

35

I gave her a piece of my mind via my not-so-identifiable-email. Cocksucking bitch that she is.

 

36 This reminds me of the wailing Iraqi woman who's house was destroyed by the evil American forces...except as it turns out, she was in 2 AP stories for 2 separate houses destroyed by the evil American forces.  She was equally distraught in both instances. 

Propaganda at its finest.

37 What are the odds? Like 1 in 9,000,000?

38 Has anybody checked her for donations?

I check all the online cycles and soft money, nada.

39 I live in GR.  You couldn't find a Democrat here with a welfare check and a brick o' gubmint cheese.  If the Castigliones were at the meeting, I have to wonder where the other two donks were.

40

I am a Clinton Democrat (I know, boo! hiss!)

What you are seeing is a variation of the classic Obamanation "conversion testimonial"

Over on the left side of the blogosphere, we saw them for months.  It's always the same basic script.

"I was a supporter of Hillary, but after ______, I decided I can no longer support her."

41

The Sacramento Bee is one of the worst "news"papers I have ever read and they are sinking fast. I quit reading it soon after I moved to the region and I have always been an avid newspaper reader. It is just a typical uber-liberal fishwrapper. 

You got that right. Say, where are you? I live in Antelope, and I get calls from Sac Bee (Ess) sellers every other month. If it's just a kid on the phone hired for a subscription drive, I tell him/her no offense, not their fault, but tell their bosses I can't read a commie rag. One time the guy on the phone claimed he actually worked for the Bee (Ess) and I said "HOW DO YOU BELIEVE THE SHIT YOU WRITE?" before I hung up.

42 I am watching Wolf on CNN and was informed that the spouse of an elected official should not have influence in government. Not Hillary, Todd. They are calling him the shadow Governor. Guess who the source was.......... the guy leading the October surprise trooper gate hearings. He is actually on camera pushing the insinuation. I guess the Republicans were wrong about them trying to politicize the investigation.

One of the more telling statements. "People are saying Todd is her biggest defender." Arrest the guy now. What if my wife wants me to start defending her?

Come on CNN. Find me one article in the MSM calling Hillary the shadow president. I want one snippet on the MSM on ACORN and Obama or the Black value system pushed by the United Methodist Church.

Ace. Sorry about the rant. Since your donations are on the honor system, I just donated.....some.

43 Did they just prove that there is just one anti-Palin republican woman by double elimination, and she might not even be authentic? 

44 Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 19, 2008 05:59 PM I am up near Marysville now but I lived in Sac'to for a couple years.

45

The Bee is worse than the San Jose Mercury and even the LA Slimes, I have lived in those cities as well.

46 Husband and wife share the same surname. Joseph and Patricia. They are homeowners. Zip is 49341.

47 Mr. Independent Castiglione is 40, there is an elderly barber near 8 mile named Joe Castiglione, who might possibly be a relative - but google isn't coughing up much for me.

48

The Bee is worse than the San Jose Mercury and even the LA Slimes, I have lived in those cities as well.

No kidding? I was from San Jose originally, I remember the orchards disappearing, grew up in the Almaden area. Howdy.

49 I am calling overplayed on this one.

1. It's likely that she was addressing a gaggle of reporters at the same time. Look at any interview anywhere... when was the last time you've seen on microphone? It's likely that 2 reporters were in the same spot and, of course, focus on the quote of the sole nitwit who had something negative to say. Reporting on 3000 people that love Palin is boring... 1 nitwit in 3000 that says something negative- that's news.

2. All non-profits have "Directors of Giving" or some similar position. It's legit. Nothing to do with community organizing.

The problem here is the same 'ol bias, gossip seeking reporting we've been dealing with since rocks were soft. If a reporter finds anyone who says anything negative about Palin, they set off a flair gun for the rest of the idiots and they all have quotes on a wire service within minutes.

Move along... nothing to see here.

50

As an astroturfing moby from DailyKos who uses racist codewords and phrases when I infiltrate Rethuglican sites to discredit them, I can say with some authority that these lifelong Republicans, who are not seminar trolls, really are going for Obama. 

Lincoln Chafee has come out for Obama, for pete's sake.  Who is more down-the-line Republican than Chafee? It's over. 

51 I'm going to second Damiano's post. This probably isn't astroturfing, just an excellent example of how lazy reporters can be. Particularly when someone the journalistic pack chooses to interview happens to give them exactly the sort of juicy, Red-on-Red quotes they (and their editors) are hoping for. And, again like Damiano said, Director of Annual Giving is a real job function. She probably works with a non-profit foundation that solicits donations to fund scholarships and such. Events and fundraisers are an integral part of that sort of work. As for posting her email address, that's not nice. Your beef is with the newspapers, not this woman.

52 I live just outside of G.R.  I attended GRCC before transferring to Michigan State.  Maybe it has changed in recent years (my last year there was 2001), but there was no discernible liberal bias among the instructors at GRCC.  Michigan State on the other hand...
Grand Rapids itself may be fairly liberal (Harwell is the mayor, after all), but all the surrounding areas trend very conservative - if it wasn't for Detroit, Flint, and Lansing, Michigan would be a bleeding red state.
None of this is to say that these interviews were kosher - I'm sure that they are not.  Just be careful about making the implication that it must be astroturfing based primarily upon the fact that Castiglione works for the academia.  If she worked for MSU, I would agree that she is not likely to be among the three or four conservatives that work there.  But, (again, unless things have changed drastically in the last few years) I don't think that the same charge cannot reliably be made against GRCC.

53 I don't think that the same charge cannot  can reliably be made against GRCC.

Sorry - got to proofread before sending off my posts

54 There's a whole lot of paranoia going on here. Why is anyone even surprised that any normal, intellignent person would realize Sarah Palin is not ready to be our VP. I cringed at her interviews and I cringe at the thought that this person may one day represent the U.S. Wasn't 8 years of George Bush enough?

I applaud Trish for putting Country First and not ideology. We need more people who will think through the issues. The Republican ideology has left us with a broken economy, high unemployment, a housing mess, uncertain health-care and a shrinking middle-class. Clearly the answer isn't in the far right or the far left.

Anyhow, that's my 2 cents. And now time for some factual links:
<i>White women shift giving Obama the lead</i>
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/?pid=362158

See, there are more Trishes and more women like me. We are always Country and Family first.

55 Curmudgeon wrote (4,

No kidding? I was from San Jose originally, I remember the orchards disappearing, grew up in the Almaden area.

If I may butt in for a sec, me too for SJ, on Shasta Ave. near Lincoln HS. We moved in '64, but I can recall my Dad calling the Sac Bee left-wing even then.

56 Sorry about the inadvertent smiley; that should read "48".

57 I third what goat and Curmudgeon said. The Bee is exactly the kind of paper that would astroturf for Obama.

And Aurelia - the second rule of blogging is to read a blog before posting there. You couldn't possibly have done that for any length of time, or you wouldn't have posted a message that was a TEXTBOOK example of "concern trolling."

Oh, and Obama is far left, and McCain is pretty much universally considered a moderate, so what is your answer, he asked rhetorically because concern trollers are hit-and-run posters?

58 "Tyrone the rapist"? 
Isn't there a whole thread, 350+ and growing, just a few comments up from here, about exactly your sort of "humor"?

26/ RobG
That's kind of not very classy, even if she IS asking for it.

59

"See, there are more Trishes and more women like me. We are always Country and Family first. " 

Posted by: Junior Commissar Aurelia V. at September 19, 2008 08:37 PM

You've got the wrong blog, honey.  That kind of horseshit just gets you laughed at around here.

Thanks for playing.

 

 

60 40 / mxyzptlk "What you are seeing is a variation of the classic Obamanation "conversion testimonial"  Over on the left side of the blogosphere, we saw them for months. "

They didn't suddenly all go into retirement after the convention, we've noticed.

46/

Same thing about being not so classy.  Not that it's not her karma, but ...

61 57 / Merovign
Just to split the hair, I don't think Aurelia is a "concern troll," just a standard troll: stupid, snide, condescending, ill-informed, you know, kind of like Erg only with better sentence structure.  She wasn't even pretending to be conservative, was she?

62

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 19, 2008 06:44

Yeah I lived there at the end of the dot.com bubble and saw it go from overcrowded to a ghost town in a few weeks. I hated San Jose and love the Sac'to area, it just took forever to get anywhere there. Heck I bought my house for what I was paying for rent in a slum not far fro San Jo St,

The only thing decent about the Sac Bee is the food section, we have an amazingly diverse and excellent food choice here.

Any other Sactown readers here? We should get together for a moron conference and hobo hunting trip on the American river.but really just to drink lots of beer.

63

Huck Foley: She didn't claim to be a conservative, but she did claim to be a moderate ("the answer isn't in the far right or the far left"). Funny how the "moderates" when viewing the parties only ever find fault with the Republicans...

Aurelia V.: "We are always Country and Family first." Yeah. The Country being "America As It Could Be", and the Family being Manson's.

64 62 goat: I'd go for a NorCal AOS moron gathering.

65 The hated Sacbee is "uber liberal" with an interesting hypocritical twist. Many years ago they locked out their union workers in a bitter protracted strike. They replaced them ALL with scabs and aren't unionized to this day. This was way back when I was a kid. Yet they project this image in their editorials that would lead you to believe they support unions, Democrats all,  and NEVER mention what they did to destroy THEIR union. Careers were ended in a trade that spanned generations. The buisness was a family before they turned on their employees. They treated their blue collar workers with total contempt. I always refer to the fishwrap as "the hated Bee" when quoting it.

They've been shrinking along with the physical size of their paper for years. The stock is following the NYT into the tank. The only thing that's kept the hated Bee alive is the housing ads from the corrupt developers/land rapers and car dealers. Their stock was $74.50 four years ago and now it's $4.70!!!! Better get some before it looks like the O in Obama. Bahwahaaaaaa!!!!!

66 "but she did claim to be a moderate"

D'oh!  Missed that! 

67

Curmugeon, I left a post at your site, my email is in my profile at mine, contact me. Sac'to moron conference beer drinking hobo hunting shindig in the making, any other from the area? 

Torabora, the Bee is now a McClatchy owned paper and still sux, I am an anti-unionist so good on them for that move. I hate unions since I am a private contractor that has to fight them for jobs and have been booted from job sites even after I won the contract.

68 goat: I am amazed you hated San Jose. Compared to this overheated and overgrown (but affordable) cowtown, I miss San Jose terribly, although I could never afford a home there.

69 I did a google search on that phrase and this guy is the correspondent with McClatchy
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/145/

70

Hey, Ace used something of mine.  Happy.

 

I dunno if she was a plant or not.  Her comments do sound very rehearsed but maybe she just repeated the same thing (err both of them did) to two different reporters. 

 

It did strike me very odd that she was picked out by two separate papers.

 

I thought that was interesting enough to see what was available on Google to any knuckle-dragging moron or even genius Official Media Reporters.

 

I did find (via search engines) her cell phone number, email addys, went through some public power-point presentations she co-authored, etc. but did not find anything obviously related to either political party.   I did not post any of that info nor did I try to contact her myself. 

 

And what do you know.  I found interesting tidbits that effectively question both stories use of and identical illustrative example that supported the main thesis of republican women doubting Palin. 

 

Glad others found this search interesting if for nothing else to demonstrate yet another piss-poor reporting job done by MSM types.

71 Curmugeon, I did like the accesss to Castle Rock as a rock climber. I hated that it would take 4-5 hours to leave the area if you wanted to go to say Yosemite. I did not like San Jose at all, it is the only place I ever lived that I hated. It is ugly, over run with illegal aliens, obnoxious liberals and over priced. I do miss an awesome pizza place and the the best taqueria I know of . I am a small town country boy and it just was not me. I have a 1/2 acre of land for the same amount I was paying for a tiny apartment there. I am midway between Tahoe and the coast and in the middle of wine country, good stuff in my book. It takes me five minutes to get out of town. At least I don't have gay cross dressing prostitutes parading up and down my street. Kids can ride their bikes here and be kids. 

72

goat: I understand that. However, believe it or not, San Jose was reasonably conservative well into the 1980's, and at 50 odd miles south of (and a safe enough distance away from) Sodom and Gomorrah West, was actually family friendly. It used to have congresscritters along the lines of Ed Zschau and Ernie Konnyu (randy old goat he was, but reliably right-wing), and of course, lots of at least pro-defense RINOs like Tom Campbell.

But I think the rise of environmentalism and the end of the Cold War meant the end of conservative patriots there. That corrresponded with skyrocketing costs of housing, as the "every swamp is sacred" and "every hill is sacred" crowds made new housing impossible and pushed the working people out to Tracy and Manteca. Meanwhile, the defense industries left, replaced by the effete artists working in firms like Pixar and Silicon Graphics.

That's my diagnosis, anyway. When the San Jose Jerk-The-Knee News hired reconquista traitor Joe Rodriguez to write (5th) columns in the early 1990's, I knew it was over. And I didn't think they could get any local columnist worse than weenie liberal Pat Dillon.

73   good friend from school was an AKA.It's a prominent-perhaps the most affluent -African American sorority.I think I'll investigate a little more.

74

Gee. That's funny. My comment at the Telegraph wasn't posted asking if/how they confirmed that she was a Republican; how is it that she was interviewed in another newspaper if chosen at random from a crowd of 3,000; and pointing out her link to a liberal organisation; plus a link to Ace's h/t link above [when the Telegraph's guidelines clearly state that inserting third party links in comments' sections are allowed]. Isn't that passing strange?

75

And Kara, a concerned Christian slut, makes an appearance at the Telegraph:

I was leaning McCain till his pick of Sarah Palin. I am Christian but something about Sarah Palin does not sit right with me. I am a conservative Christian but I do not think creationism should be taught in schools. I am mostly pro-life but rape and incest should be considered very differently from other situations and I have a problem with Sarah's views on these issues. Charging victims of rape seems very cold and unchristian to me. I will be voting for Barack Obama this year-I don't believe the lies that he is a Muslim.

And, oddly enough, my second attetmpted comment that answered a leftie troll in the comments section and didn't include any third-party links still hasn't been posted yet either. How strange.

76 For what it's worth (and especially for those among you stalking her and sending her hate mail) - I work with Trish and can verify that she's an authentic person who expressed authentic sentiments at the event. 

She's no Obama campaign plant.  She happened to be sitting up front at the rally (because employees of the college received more access to the event than the general public - which was the same case back in 2003 when G.W. Bush made a stop on our campus), and she was interviewed simultaneously by several reporters both before and after the event.

Seriously; is it really that hard to believe that Sarah Palin doesn't impress every single Republican (especially here in Romney country where a lot of people are likely still raw about the VP decision)?

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