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| Obama's Troubling Tendencies![]() Here's how it works. A message goes out over Barack Obama's Web site with the names, phone numbers and e-mails of editors and producers foolish enough to host Obama critics. With Mr. Obama's extensive digital following, and his extensive fund-raising and contact lists, shutting up the Democratic nominee's critics with a fraction of Mr. Obama's millions of supporters is relatively simple. The digital legions plug phone lines, crash servers and intimidate the advertisers of these media outlets. This must be another instance of the "new" politics that Mr. Obama frequently talks about.(h/t: Hot Air) Treacher: "This is not free speech. This is not "people expressing their opinion." This is people expressing Obama's opinion. This is a powerful politician arrogantly abusing his power to try to silence his critics, without even bothering to hide behind Media Matters or Kos, because he knows he can get away with it. This is wrong."McCain may not be perfect, but he's preferable to Obama, who has allowed his mask to slip a bit in the last few weeks. He's a typical machine politician who seems far too comfortable shutting down speech he doesn't like. Is encouraging such thuggery an example of the "community organizing" of which Obama is so proud? One of the great ironies of this election is that liberals are worshiping a guy who embodies everything they claim to hate about the Bush administration. "Get in their Faces!" [ace]: Obama exhorts his cultists to do more of this. Comments1
Yup, all these years of hearing their BS about how the republithugs are going to be in your email and tapping your phones, but it was always projection on their part.
Stop them all, stop them now. Posted by: East Bay patriot at September 18, 2008 09:51 AM (h/5U0) 2
They have become the monsters they feared the most. Racist lying hatemongers. Modern day Brown-shirts. How long before Ace is targeted? Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 18, 2008 09:51 AM (MSMPS) Posted by: blaster at September 18, 2008 09:51 AM (BiphJ) 4
Liberals are worshipping a guy who embodies everything they claim to hate about the Bush administration.
But it won't bother them. It reminds me of a Ron Silver quote during Clinton's first inaugural party/parade. Some fighter jets flew overhead and Silver was outraged that the baby killing military would be around. A friend said, "Ron, these are OUR jets now." To give Silver his due, 9/11 awakened him from his stupor. I disagree with him most social policies, but he's a pretty strong pro-America guys these days. Posted by: physics geek at September 18, 2008 09:52 AM (MT22W) 5
and Obama said yesterday: "I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face," he said.
Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 18, 2008 09:54 AM (MSMPS) 6
Liberals are worshipping a guy who embodies everything they claim to hate about the Bush administration. When I was a liberal in art school, I had a rude awakening when the lefties started boycotting art history classes (because there were naked women in old artwork, which was sexist), got nailed repeatedly for having pictures of women in my art work (what with me being a sexist male) and for not participating in the hate-America art "happenings" around the Gulf War. A lot of propaganda was circulated, stuff that I knew was wrong, the three solid dissenters in the school were bullied into shutting up . . . and I was told, in no uncertain terms by the same northeast liberal who had told me that I couldn't help but be a racist because I was southern and was down at a southern art school in part for the anthropology of hanging out with southern neanderthals . . . she told me that "the end justifies the means". And it became apparent that any ends justified any liberal means to them . . . and that's when I began to realize I wasn't really a liberal. Because I didn't really believe that "any means necessary" was a way to advance an agenda that was factually or morally correct. Turns out, the more things change, the more things stay the same. This isn't "Chicago thug" politics . . . this is just business-as-usual liberal politics were lying, disinformation, shouting people down and oppressing free speech and trying to rewrite history is just part of the dirty work you have to do to bring about utopia. And, oh, pat themselves on the back and massage their egos, but they don't want to talk about that. Posted by: Medicinal at September 18, 2008 09:56 AM (jQS9X) 7
"and Obama said yesterday: "I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face," he said" New sermon on the mount from the Obamessiah? Posted by: huerfano at September 18, 2008 09:57 AM (knHvu) 8
And by Liberals, of course, you mean every single member of the America press. But that should surprise no one. It's always been power that made the press's engine run, and only power.
Posted by: The Obvious at September 18, 2008 09:57 AM (1g+FW) 9
"American press." Sorry.
Posted by: The Obvious at September 18, 2008 09:58 AM (1g+FW) 10
I'm convinced Obama will lose his Senate seat when he tries for re-election in 2010. The bloom is off the onion. The Illinois State Senate can use a man like Barrack. Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 18, 2008 09:59 AM (4ZOxD) 11
Irony.
Sardonic unicorn or trinicorn? Trinicorn: Corns like calluses develop from an accumulation of dead skin cells on the foot, forming thick, hardened areas. They contain a cone-shaped core with a point that can press on a nerve below, causing pain. Corns are a very common ailment that usually form on the tops, sides and tips of the toes. Corns can become inflamed due to constant friction and pressure from footwear. (foot.com) Obama’s gift. High taxation and loss of liberty pressuring working feet; no relief but accumulation of hardened dead cells pressing painfully on nerves. Posted by: maverick muse at September 18, 2008 10:03 AM (F1b/5) Posted by: uniball at September 18, 2008 10:06 AM (27iEn) Posted by: T at September 18, 2008 10:09 AM (AQj/2) 14
Milton once wrote "Who can doubt the triumph of truth over lies in a contest on a level field'?
Either the Obama supporters don't believe this maxim or, more likely, they do. Posted by: Kasper Hauser at September 18, 2008 10:09 AM (KeOQp) 15
Bill Hemmer Just said on Fox that Juan Williams has said That Obama HAS to be up 5 to 8% on Election day to win the election because of the Bradley effect
Williams is Liberal, But a FAIR Liberal & a washington Insider too boot & has good insights into this Posted by: PaREP> at September 18, 2008 10:15 AM (dWdDN) 16
Unfortunately, there is nothing surprising about this. Obama isn't a "new kind of politician". He is the creation of David Axlerod, one of the most ruthless political consultants in the business. He will do whatever it takes to win including turning on former friends and sliming opponents. I have no doubt that Axlerod has been at the core of all the slime coming out against Palin into the liberal blogosphere and I also have no doubt it will be impossible to prove. Take a read through this piece from the NYT from the beginning of the campaign. You might get a better insight into why Hillary is not helping Obama and a view into what is to come. Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2008 10:15 AM (VBon8) 17
The man and his followers are a clear and present danger to the republic.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 18, 2008 10:18 AM (B+qrE) 18
Have become the monsters they feared?
They always were. No normal person could conceive of the demon-Bush they created. They can only imagine it in Bush because all the pretend fascism they project onto him is already alive inside them. We all gut-check our ideas against plausibility, using our own strengths, weaknesses, and foibles as somehow the baseline for normal. So our assumptions about others' motives really tell us little about the others, and everything about ourselves. They scream about the Patriot Act, and we shrug, because they know what they would do with that kind of power-- as we know what we would do with it. They look at George Bush or Sarah Palin and say to themselves "what would I do if I had power over my neighbors?", and the answer terrifies them. Posted by: a4g at September 18, 2008 10:20 AM (YGPTF) 19
Jonah Goldberg's thesis is made flesh!
Posted by: nord at September 18, 2008 10:20 AM (azL8r) 20
I'm convinced Obama will lose his Senate seat when he tries for re-election in 2010. The bloom is off the onion. The Illinois State Senate can use a man like Barrack.
For this to happen, there would have to be Republicans in IL. Posted by: Illinidiva at September 18, 2008 10:23 AM (BZuwT) Posted by: rightwingprof at September 18, 2008 10:24 AM (52wuV) 22
Obama is a Fascist, although its racist to point that out and I'm sure next year when he's POTUS I will be prosecuted for saying such
Posted by: jp at September 18, 2008 10:28 AM (DFDtC) 23
Soon we will all be assimilated and will become part of The One.
Heretics will be stoned. Have a *nice* day.... Posted by: NHGuy at September 18, 2008 10:28 AM (kLk/O) Posted by: Alia Atreides at September 18, 2008 10:29 AM (0WhiX) 25
I had a liberal say to me after another said "I don't agree with what you say, but defend your right, etc"... "WELL I DON'T" Anyone who has had to deal with leftist teachers, as if there are any other kind in high schools and grade schools, knows the type of scum sucking incompetent asshole that fits the type. Oh, but Conservatives are the fascists. Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at September 18, 2008 10:29 AM (sf4Oe) 26
"And if they tell you
that, 'Well, we're not sure where he stands on guns.' I want you to
say, 'He believes in the Second Amendment.'
I'm still waiting to hear about all the hard work he did in Illinois challenging the powers that be, while trying to restore the Second Amendment rights of his fellow Chicagoans. For such a self-professed champion of American's gun rights, you'd think there'd be some evidence that at he at least tried to do something about such an egregious violation of the people's Constitutional rights. Yeah, right. If America elects this assclown, we are summarily ****ed beyond measure. Posted by: Bruce at September 18, 2008 10:33 AM (2aqWd) 27
I want you to argue with them and get in their face I had just such an experience last weekend at a neighbor's cocktail party. A woman there was braying on and on about Obama, and when she found out I was the token conservative in the liberal punchbowl, I was graced with her undivided, obnoxious attention. In keeping with a long liberal tradition of volume over sensibility, she argued, she got in my face. I'm a believer that the one who does the most talking in an argument is often the one who is wrong, and this chick wouldn't clip her string. Not a word about Obama's agenda, not a word about Biden's experience. It was all Bush this, Palin scary pro-lifer that, McCain craven opportunist. You've heard it before. She was a real ambassador for her side. People don't like being yelled at and berated. They prefer to follow natural leaders who compel by example. People really do measure themselves against someone they admire who is accomplished or respectable. When you yell at someone, literally or figuratively, or are obnoxious, you're not persuasive; just the opposite. Obama's off-putting legion of bullies is going to do him in. What a bunch of unsavory, unattractive people.
Posted by: railwriter at September 18, 2008 10:38 AM (nwEiU) 28
What's the difference between Obama and America?
Obama has been through the desert on a horse he will not name. And you had better not name it either. Posted by: WalrusRex at September 18, 2008 10:39 AM (DVVXZ) Posted by: Ann at September 18, 2008 10:39 AM (c3H+i) 30
If only there were some historical analogy for a political leader sending out his followers en masse to intimidate and shout down those who oppose his vision.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 18, 2008 10:45 AM (4ZOxD) 31
Treacher is on fire
Posted by: 13times at September 18, 2008 10:46 AM (m0GtD) 32
obama is creepy, that's true.
Not to get off topic, but why you got a picture of a statue of Gary Coleman with boobies? You guys are gettin' weird, is all I'm sayin'... Posted by: soon to be zombie W at September 18, 2008 10:48 AM (twemG) 33
27 railwriter -
If this liberal twat you spoke to truly embraces Zero's economic principles, she'll probably die in abject poverty. On the other hand, if she ever has the opportunity to physically embrace Zero himself, she will probably die of a horrible disease. Either way, she's screwed. Posted by: The Other Shoe at September 18, 2008 10:49 AM (Pus2I) 34
I want you...to be nice.
If somebody gets in your face and calls you a cocksucker, I want you to be nice. Ask him to walk. Be nice. I want you to be nice until it's time to not be nice. Posted by: James Dalton at September 18, 2008 10:53 AM (xWk3U) Posted by: Tushar at September 18, 2008 10:53 AM (ZqHH5) 36
TO borrow a quote from Monty Python. "He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy."
Posted by: walrus at September 18, 2008 10:56 AM (1BqbG) 37
#35: It's not just a matter of religion. Read the story:
Colonoscopies cost up to $3,000. Andi's looking at the stark possibility of complete disenfranchisement and financial ruin. Posted by: apotheosis at September 18, 2008 10:57 AM (xWk3U) 38
You want to read something that will make you stupider?
check THIS out!! (in case that doesnt work : http://www.writeslikeshetalks.com/2008/09/17/tim-wises-this-is-your-nation-on-white-privilege/#comments) "For those who still can’t grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are constantly looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help. White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because “every family has challenges,” even as black and Latino families with similar “challenges” are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay. White privilege is when you can call yourself a “fuckin’ redneck,” like Bristol Palin’s boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you’ll “kick their fuckin’ ass,” and talk about how you like to “shoot shit” for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug." Posted by: Ann at September 18, 2008 10:58 AM (c3H+i) Posted by: jp at September 18, 2008 10:59 AM (DFDtC) 40
White privilege is when you can call yourself a “fuckin’ redneck,”
like Bristol Palin’s boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone
messes with you, you’ll “kick their fuckin’ ass,” and talk about how
you like to “shoot shit” for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible,
all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug."
Black privilege, on the other hand, is when you can actually "kick people's fuckin' ass," "shoot shit for fun," proudly claim the mantle of "thug," and get millions of dollars and media adoration for it. Posted by: apotheosis at September 18, 2008 11:01 AM (xWk3U) 41
Honestly Obama's campaign looks more and more like a bad sequel to The Mummy series everyday. He's like Imhotep but he's after Scarlett Johansson.
McCain just needs to find the right words to make him mortal so he can kill him. His minions stalk around chanting in the same way: O-baaaa-maaaaaaaa! O-baaaa-maaaaaaaa! O-baaaa-maaaaaaaa! Posted by: Rocks at September 18, 2008 11:01 AM (Q1lie) 42
Heard a guy on the radio comment that the people who are so afwraid that the government is violating the privacy of terrorists, have no problems violating the privacy of Gov. Palin. I hate the little shits.
Posted by: Booben at September 18, 2008 11:03 AM (r0DWc) 43
Obama to get tough!
Buttercup is taking off the isotoners for the 4th or 5th time this week and telling his people to get in our faces. I guess it's over for us. With "Barack "skinny-but-tough-so-please-let-me-eat-my-waffles" Obama on the warpath, I think all us right wingers better go undergorund. I've heard Obama can e-mail like the Devil himself! Posted by: Kasper Hauser at September 18, 2008 11:06 AM (KeOQp) 44
How long before Ace is targeted? Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 18, 2008 09:51 AM (MSMPS)
Fear not, random person, Ace's Ewok-fu is strong. Posted by: Insomniac at September 18, 2008 11:09 AM (UYKDB) 45
That's the Chicago way.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at September 18, 2008 11:12 AM (/3ev3) 46
Just wait a few weeks when Obama calls for the race riots.
Posted by: roy at September 18, 2008 11:13 AM (cB77O) 47
In a Bush Administration, dissent was "patriotic"
In an Obama Administration, dissent will be "hate speech". Posted by: Techie at September 18, 2008 11:17 AM (V3vMg) 48
On a related subject, I cannot help but note that comment threads on non-conservative websites seem to be dominated by Obamatons, even though they repesent (currently) only around 48% of the country. Shouldn't we be equally committed to commenting on sites such as CNN, Politico, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc.? Forget about places like DKos, where we would just be edited out, but aren't we missing a real chance to make our case, politely and with facts, on the websites that might actually reach persuadable voters?
I mean, posting here and arguing with ourselves is fun, but does it really do anything to win the election? Perhaps a reminder that this is something we can all do to get our message out past the media filters would be in order. I, for example, try to comment on at least ten threads per day. If every one of us did likewise, wouldn't the balance of comments shift at least somewhat back to the center? At the very least, it would annoy the Obama zombies... Posted by: HT at September 18, 2008 11:21 AM (CZU0o) Posted by: blogRot at September 18, 2008 11:21 AM (EKMxC) 50
>One of the great ironies of this election is that liberals are worshiping a guy who embodies everything they claim to hate about the Bush administration. There's no irony at all. The Left believes the ends justify the means. Posted by: Jones CO at September 18, 2008 11:23 AM (VkNlv) 51
I am seeing it already. Mrs. Balrog, who is firmly pro-choice, was absolutely wowed by Sarah Palin. She did not care for Obama already, and was going to sit this round out, but she is now in the McCain camp. Well, after her epiphany, she was curious what her friends were going to do, so she emailed her contact list and asked them who they were going to vote for. That was it. She did not indicate who she was for, nor she make any attempt to sway them either way. The results: One Republican whom we did not know was a Republican. Two whom we did know were Republican, and who responded accordingly. One who was not going to vote for McCain because Palin was against saving the Polar Bears. (She's one of softheaded animal lovers who believe everything they hear from the Sierra Club, but we are making some progress with her). One who, in reply sent us a bunch of lame Obama propaganda, but that was no shock, since he is pretty much the ineptly straight and much less-excitable version of Andrew Sullivan, i.e. lost cause. Sweet man, but not much use outside his tiny bubble of bed-and-breakfast management competence. Finally, one who unleashed a storm of bizarre Deepak Chopra-inspired new age bullshit, all the while informing us she was not voting for anybody. I do not know, but I am tempted to send her contact info to the Green Party. So, of the six who have responded, three were Republicans and three were different variations of batshit crazy.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 18, 2008 11:26 AM (wgLRl) 52
Shouldn't we be equally committed to commenting on sites such as CNN, Politico, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc.?
I tried that once. I think I'm still b& from CNN. Posted by: Ranba Ral at September 18, 2008 11:27 AM (fpk1J) 53
OT but I'm watching FoxNews and there's a clip of the McCains at a rally and he's casual with suit coat and no necktie, but Cindy looks like some college chick with tight jeans t-shirt and baseball cap with ponytail out the back. I want her to be First Lady even more. Posted by: Jones CO at September 18, 2008 11:30 AM (VkNlv) 54
Either way, she's screwed. You got that right, Shoe. VRWC membership has its privileges. An exasperated sigh and a phone call later, and little miss lightworker was on her way to reeducation. Rove's men smartly came in, flex-cuffed her, and marched her into the black van that knows no stoplights. I don't think they said a word, and the thing was over in 2 minutes. Naturally, I took my leave for greener pastures after orchestrating this little buzz-killing bash. She's probably being waterboarded by Bushitler thugs at this very moment. I, on the other hand, am shooting my cuffs and tucking into a delightfully crumbly terrine and another glass of Sancerre. Posted by: railwriter at September 18, 2008 11:32 AM (nwEiU) 55
He has this apparatus in place for a campaign, and they want to put in charge of the FBI, CIA. NSA, etc...? One is almost inclined to think they were being a just little disingenuous with all that talk about Bush shredding the constitution, huh?
Posted by: dmoss at September 18, 2008 11:33 AM (z17GE) 56
I've got a weekend party to go to with my college friends (overwhelmingly leftist) the week before Thanksgiving. It'll probably be hellish if McCain wins.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at September 18, 2008 11:36 AM (nYv/9) 57
You know what this reminds me of? A Usenet flame-war, translated into a real-world political campaign. It's a cliche by now to note that people tend to turn into complete jerks on electronic message boards, and write things they would never say out loud. However, as the Internet penetrates ever more deeply into the public's social life, this habit of dashing off ill-considered "flames" seems to have escaped the electronic world and become the SOP for many political partisans out there.
This is a real problem, and not just in terms of this electoral cycle. When I hear someone say that X is "worse than Hitler", I wonder how much they really know about Nazi Germany and what an atrociously evil man Adolf Hitler really was. It cheapens the lives and insults the deaths of millions of innocent people. It turns an abject human tragedy into a toss-off insult, thus robbing it of any kind of power. The same goes for any kind of ridiculous political hyperbole, really. I've never liked the "fighting for you" line that candidates trot out. They're not "fighting" for me, they're simply doing their jobs (and often at cross-purposes with my personal interests). The butchering of the English language proceeds apace. Posted by: Monty at September 18, 2008 11:38 AM (4Pleu) 58
As a lifelong liberal pot-smoking Democrat atheist environmentalist Marxist pedophile, I was really hoping that Barack Obama would bring change to Washington. Sadly, I think he represents everything that is wrong with Washington... from his smashmouth politics and dishonest lies about John McCain to his use of taxpayer dollars to enrich his friends through earmarks and kickbacks. I think we had enough lying and corruption under Chimpy Shrub McHitler, don't you?
Posted by: Starchild at September 18, 2008 11:43 AM (PLvLS) 59
Embrace the schadenfreude, Farmer Joe.
Posted by: railwriter at September 18, 2008 11:43 AM (nwEiU) 60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Gjd_EAa64 Why Don’t We Do It In The Road? (No one will be watching us.--The Beatles) EVERYONE WILL BE WATCHING US!--Obama "Get up front and personal. Get in their faces!" Posted by: maverick muse at September 18, 2008 11:44 AM (F1b/5) Posted by: George Orwell at September 18, 2008 11:45 AM (VkNlv) 62
Anyone getting in my face, gets maced as a warning. If they get up, they get shot. If they get up again, they go into the wood chipper. None ever came back from the wood chipper so far.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 18, 2008 11:55 AM (6L459) Posted by: Dr. Remulak at September 18, 2008 11:56 AM (YmPwQ) 64
It amazes me that people still think of Liberals as being "open minded". They are open minded only to ideas that agree with their own. There is no allowance for rational discussion or discourse. If you do not agree with them, you are labeled hate monger, ignorant, racist, sexist, anti-environment, and any other negative label they want to stick on you. "Free speech" means speech that agrees with their agenda.
This reminds me of when Bush rounded up all the Arab-Americans and had them put in internment camps and then imposed the Alien and Sedition Act to have everyone that disagreed with him thrown in jail. No, wait. None of that happened, I guess. Posted by: conservative rebel: sign up for your nearest 5K walk to fight terrorism at September 18, 2008 11:56 AM (T4dLI) 65
Monty, back in the good ole early Bush days, when morons attempted to draw the Nazi parallels, I'd offer to loan them my copies of Victor Klemperer's I Will Remember. "It sounds to me you aren't terribly familiar with real Fascist oppression. Here's an eyewitness account. Interested"? Then I'd stomp on their foot and run away giggling like a moron.
They called me "Ninja Dave". Posted by: Dave in Texas at September 18, 2008 11:56 AM (pzen5) 66
Anyone know where to pick up some poison antidotes? Just wondering.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 18, 2008 11:56 AM (rf03a) Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 18, 2008 11:59 AM (4ZOxD) 68
Any wonder that Nazis came to power in Germany.
All the elements are in this election. Now imagine an Obama Administration .... Posted by: Neo at September 18, 2008 12:00 PM (Yozw9) 69
American liberals can’t quite face the fact that if their man does win in November, and if he has meant a single serious word he’s ever said, it means more war, and more bitter and protracted war at that—not less. Posted by: Neo at September 18, 2008 12:03 PM (Yozw9) 70
# 57 I agree. But while reducing an argument to "X is worse than Hitler" is cheap and hyperbolic, I would also submit that consider Zero to be the next Stalin may not a ridiculous idea. He tries to stifle opposition, has a cult of personality, and wants to make the population completely dependent on his every whim, and will tax us to the gills. The only thing that makes these two different is that Stalin backed up his claims with a lot of brutality. Thirty-five million people dead over the course of his tyranny (1924 - 1953) due to purges, war, and famine. The only questions I have left is, if Zero is coronated, how long before he starts his purges (of the people with NKVD, Cheka, and KGB-style brutality)? And will we have to bow before the giant portraits of the Obamessiah that are surely to be installed in every public location? Posted by: The Other Shoe at September 18, 2008 12:05 PM (Pus2I) 71
"You know what this reminds me of? A Usenet flame-war, translated into a real-world political campaign."
I've been saying for a few weeks, since Palin came in, that what we have here with the "Left" and the Obamatons is the first true Internet Generation coming into a big political race. They were raised on the internet trash that we are unfortunately familiar with. The net is decivilizing, but especially for young people being brought up on it, socialized by it. The Obama-Democrat kids are simply acting out they way they do toward each other, like little gangs of digital thugs. The soul of the Obama demographic... Posted by: Bruce at September 18, 2008 12:05 PM (RNkOF) 72
All of the "big fears" that the left had about Bush never came to pass. His time on the world stage is coming to an end and things are much the same as they were eight years ago, civil liberties wise. He will go away and on his resume he can say he kicked ass and protected the homeland. Good enough for me. My question is: Is the right inflating the damage that BHO is capable of doing while in office? What is your biggest fear in an Obama Administration? The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are the only reasons this country hasn't broken apart into a patchwork quilt of good and bad little govts. Leaders come and go but the SOP for our form of govt. has been a constant for over two hundred years. The Constitution has kept America exceptional, grand, and for the most part, good. My biggest fear? That Obama gives these documents short shrift in his drive toward his goals, that as an avowed outsider he will put aside the framework of our govt. and try something new. CHANGE. I fear the day when the dumbasses pushing his bus decide that they are the inheritors of a new morality and that they don't need to reference Jefferson's little ditty anymore. They can dig into your past, they can shout you down, they can get in your face, they can take it to the streets. As an enemy of the their State you will be denied the protections that were afforded them during the Bush administration. Posted by: ding at September 18, 2008 12:05 PM (Xomyd) 73
Ace,
This is stupid even from you. Would you say that Republicans do not ask thier followers to contact editorial board of news papers making demands? What nonsence. Posted by: thomas at September 18, 2008 12:08 PM (KOLiq) 74
Obama doe'snt talk to people,he talks down to people.
We can use this Example 1 "the American people are a decent people. Now they get confused sometimes. You know, they listen to the wrong talk radio shows or watch the wrong TV networks, um, but they’re, they’re basically decent, they’re basically sound" Change American people to Whitey. ex2. Biden is one of the "Good Ones" If this has been mentioned before.just ignore this post. Tony Souh Haven,MI Posted by: Tony LaVanway at September 18, 2008 12:12 PM (aHH1C) 75
In a revealing slip in an interview with ABC recently, Mr. Obama said, "If we're going to ask questions about who has been promulgating negative ads that are completely unrelated to the issues at hand, I think I win that contest pretty handily." That he is in fact winning the contest for the most negative campaign could well spell his defeat. Posted by: Neo at September 18, 2008 12:12 PM (Yozw9) 76
One must admire the irony of a troll calling someone stupid while simultaneously:
-getting the author of the post wrong -spelling two words improperly That'll do, troll. That'll do. Posted by: Slublog at September 18, 2008 12:13 PM (R8+nJ) 77
I avoid debate, argument or discussion in person or on the Internet with committed Obama supporters. There's no point. All you get is an incoherent stream of BUSH ILLEGAL WAR FACIST CORPORATIONS BUSH CHANGE. Hell, look at what Barry O wants them to say- if you suggest he'll raise taxes, reply "no he won't". If you suggest he's anti-gun, reply "no he isn't". Obama believes his own hype, and his endless arrogance means that an authoritative "no, you're wrong" is all the response needed to criticism.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 18, 2008 12:15 PM (rf03a) 78
This is stupid even from you. Would you say that Republicans do not ask thier [sic] followers to contact editorial board [sic] of news papers [sic] making demands? What nonsence [sic]. The difference being that Republicans generally write in response to what someone has actually said or done, where Obama wants his followers to respond to writers and speakers based solely on the fact that they oppose Obama.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 18, 2008 12:21 PM (rf03a) 79
Seeing your big screen of obama and thinking of his supporters caused a flash back to the old Apple Mac commercial where a woman in track & field garb ran down the aisle and threw a hammer into the big screen to break obamas hold on his unthinking robots. Substitute Sarah Palin for the athelete Could be made into a great spot for the Palin / mccain ticket
Posted by: Mark E at September 18, 2008 12:23 PM (w5RwR) 80
Thomas, This is stupid even from you. Would you say that Republicans do not ask their followers to contact radio stations making demands? That's what we're talking about, sir. Radio. Why don't those on the right attack lefty radio? Think about it. Also, it's one thing to make demands, it's another to take over a conversation with the express intent to drown out the opposition. Like NANANANANANA. Stupid troll. Posted by: ding at September 18, 2008 12:25 PM (Xomyd) 81
Zum Befel, mein OlbyMessiah!
Posted by: mojo at September 18, 2008 12:31 PM (g1cNf) 82
Ask him to walk. Be nice.
Oh, I've got that down pat. Walk away. Just walk away. Complete with a lowering of the voice, and a slight muting of volume. Typically used on drunk Scandi hobos who are cheesing my vibe at the bar by arguing with the barista about their tab. Still, it is suitable to use on the drunk progessive Scandi hobos who are cheesing my vibe at the bar by talking politics. That really cheeses my vibe. Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 18, 2008 12:33 PM (1hM1d) 83
Shouldn't we be equally committed to commenting on sites such as CNN, Politico, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc.? Politico.com revoked my posting privileges once they found out my parents were married. Posted by: blogRot at September 18, 2008 12:44 PM (EKMxC) 84
Would you say that Republicans do not ask thier followers to contact editorial board of news papers making demands?
I've never been contacted by anyone encouraging me to stifle differing opinions. Maybe my VRWC dues are late, but if you can't see the difference between writing a letter to counter an opinion versus flooding phone lines and encouraging "in your face" confrontations, well, it's just sad. Posted by: darury at September 18, 2008 12:44 PM (pZNXX) Posted by: Uncle Jefe at September 18, 2008 12:44 PM (+3fAP) 86
Thomas,
That was a stupid post, even for you. Your stupidity is something to behold, even for you. You are a cum guzzling idiot, even for your family. Posted by: uniball at September 18, 2008 12:45 PM (27iEn) 87
ding at September 18, 2008 12:05 PM (Xomyd) If we had a stronger presence in Congress I would not fear an Obama administration. Unfortunately we don't and that will allow Obama to change the very things you state that hold our Country together through good and bad administrations. Obama will turn our judiciary on its head with the appointments he will make. Our slippery slope began many administrations ago and continue everytime a Democrat gets into office. Only I feel the appointments in this administration will be the worst yet. Posted by: polynikes at September 18, 2008 12:56 PM (m2CN7) 88
polynikes at September 18, 2008 12:56 PM (m2CN7) I hear you. I just hope the work of the Fonding Fathers can stand up to this latest assualt, if God forbid, the mighty O takes office. Posted by: ding at September 18, 2008 01:08 PM (Xomyd) 89
Slublog/Ace I take your pic and raise you one: SILENCE (Feel free to use it on the Front Page) Cromagnum Posted by: Cromagnum at September 18, 2008 01:11 PM (UxAb/) 90
If we had a stronger presence in Congress I would not fear an Obama administration. It wouldn't matter. The roots of the current economic meltdown can be traced to the Carter administration and the Community Redevelopment Act (CRA). This was a pretty benign piece of legislation designed to deal with the entirely bogus and debunked claim of neighborhood redline by banks against minority communities. But it was in the Clinton administration where CRA got put on steroids. Even with a Republcian Congress, Clinton, with the aid of the Black Caucus, ramped through a new and improved CRA in exchange for bank derugulation terms. The affect was to start using federal mandates to force banks to give mortgages to people who had no right to get them, people with no verifiable income, no savings, bad credit, etc.. The money was funneled out to "community organizers" like ACORN in Chicago (cough Obama) and the Bruce Marks controlled NACA in Boston. It was nothing short of econimic extortion with the threat of racisim and "activist" action against anyone who didn't comply. Even then, people like Phil Gramm were warning that this was a ticking time bomb that was going to come back to haunt us when the economy had a down turn. Republican's in Congress have been neutered lest they be tagged with the racism card. They folded like a cheap suit. The coup de grace was the placement of Clintonistas such as Franklin Raines, Jim Johnson and Jamie Gorelick in key spots in the Freddie and Fannie. They continued to enrich themselves while systematically funneling money, our money, to the ACORN's of the world and fostering a new generation of liberal activists while destroying the financial markets. It's no accident that both Raines and Johnson ended up on Obama's campaign. Nor is it an accident that Marks is quoted and praised widely by Obama. They are all part of the same criminal enterprise made legal by Congress. The Dems in Congress know this and are terrified. It's why they are running for the hills and doing nothing while trying to lay this off on Bush. But it will all come out in time. Hopefully, long before Nov. 4. Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2008 01:20 PM (VBon8) 91
one more ugly thread dig,,, hey, as long as we dont stoop to their level, they will be nice.
Posted by: spear at September 18, 2008 01:20 PM (+iAi/) 92
As long as they are not "fierce" and in my face. What a pussy.
Posted by: Javems at September 18, 2008 01:44 PM (hq71Y) 93
I don't mean to interrupt your Rant In, but I wanted to raise a couple of observations, both of which go to the poverty of political expression by and on behalf of The-Senator-You-Once-All-Thought-Was-A-Retard-Or-Worse-A-Closet-Liberal-But-Now-Whose-Picture-You-Make-Sweet-Man-Luv-To-Each-Nite, and frankly suggest a way out of this mess for you moronic tools [or at least to stop being tools and return to your more natural state].
Observation #1:
You folks ever hear of "projection"? It's something more up the alley of shrinks and therapists, but as a lawyer having done my share of minor and major cases over coming on prit'near 4 decades now, its a common feature in criminal trials where the defendant on trial decides to go on the stand and tell his "story". It's a pretty strong feature of the personality of ol' Orange Julius Simpson, in that it goes a way in explaining why he didn't go on the stand in the double murder case in LA but still tried to get his "story" out, even in such an awkwardly constricted way of publishing a "true" false tell all, to be used to [1] make a bunch of money [2] get something off his chest [3] while giving himself an "out" by setting up a "straw man" argument.
Projecting- I'm guessing at least some of you here know about it; maybe one or two or hundreds here suffer from it; maybe even the folks who post- is where you have this fucked in the head problem, like say can only really enjoy the act of love if there's a penguin in the room - and at one level you know its wrong; i.e. the level at which you have regular contact and discourse with civilized society - while at another level you really, really, really get off on that penguin thing and a kinda hopin' maybe there will be a sudden spontaneous hue and cry for a Constitutional amendment providing a guaranteed personal right to have and abuse penguins - so whattya do?
You plant a smear against your opponent that folks are saying he can't get it up and can't get it on and can't get it over without a penguin in the close proximity- to make it a little worse, and give yourownsadself a little wiggle room for dignity, make that a "juvenile" penguin [cuz that makes it REALLY wierd, right?]
Now, wingers normally hate "projectors", which is what makes it odd here, given there's an awful lot of projection going on with McCain and the McCampaign.
I think one of the reasons, for all I know the main one, why wingers hate projection freaks is that it's bad enough the guy's got a jones he can't say the name of, it also shows what a friggin COWARD he is.
And that's an admirable quality in conservatives: the almost post-constitutional grant of the right to get your freak on, and to say it ain't nobody's bidness but his own, but for crying out loud don't go all COWARD on us by projecting your freak onto your opponent to get a feel for how high up in the gullet the national puke rises so maybe when your outed by Drudge [because that perv does EVERYTHING man] you can still hold your head up with self pride: Ya, I'm a penguin freak, but 16.8439 per cent of American journalists in the main stream media thing that might not make me a bad person.
I'm not saying McHypocritter does it with penguins- I'm just saying he's projecting. It's a loathesome, self-loathing thing to do, and you guys are usually not into that.
But if I'm wrong, if self-loathing penguin-screwing closet freak projection is the New Ace HQ, I stand to be corrected - though in another room thanks.
[2] In the spider world, typically the party in the torn t shirt with the musky odor with a beer in one sweaty hand and a hard on yelling ""Stel-LA!" is the female. In a typical scenario I find alternately heroic and a bit much for a bit of fluff, the little spider men with their little spider whatevers have to try to ride the steed of passion the minimum 8 seconds to qualify for eternal life, all the while ducking and bobbing and weaving while the huge hotcha babe is trying to stuff the spider guy's head parts down her mouth parts. Oftentimes he's getting his rocks off and the same time as she's taking his head off.
It's pretty harsh, I know, and its one of the reasons
I'm disinclined to envy spiders for their courtship practices, but I'm sure any number of you can see the parallels and analogies in the world of homo sapiens, even homo simpsoniens.
Don't you think McWashed Up should just get up one day soon and say: "Geez, sorry for the all the trouble but I just checked my best before date and I've apparently been dead for almost 7 months now, so I'm ceding my position to Sarah and I'm prepared to stay on as an advisor type VP for as long as she feels the need or I die from her eating my head off or whatever".
That would solve a lot of problems and clarify an awful lot of positions for an awful lot of folks.
It would also make that goofy "Change You Need" rip off slogan look a lot more reasonable.
[3] Related to [2]- Does McDying of Cancer or Something have even one single original idea [other than picking the Sultry Bitch With The Fire In Her Eyes?]. Just about every time Irish Barry O'Bama says something that make the daily tracking polls blip in his favor, 3 days later McXerox is up there saying the same freaking thing and claiming he invented it in the Senate ante room during a lull in voting on budget earmarks, while seated opposite Senator Gore while he was inventing the Inter Tubes.
Sort of makes you think you were right the first time with McCranky- that's he's actually a retarded closet liberal.
And the retarded thing comes up every day.
I'm just standing up for you morons- its bad enough you're all tools, but tools of a retard?
Show some dignity; stand up and be counted; Are we Mice or Morons?
Cuz the GOP has a big cred problem with going with McLoser- there's gonna be a lot of folks in the Wing who are going to be able to point at this nomination and say- Can we ever really trust our party again?-->
Posted by: Diderot's dog at September 18, 2008 01:48 PM (nrD02) 94
JackStraw at September 18, 2008 01:20 PM (VBon Though I agree with everything you said, the Country can survive an economic crisis. If we change the framework of the Constituion any more than we have we may not be able to survive as a Country as we define it today. Posted by: polynikes at September 18, 2008 01:50 PM (m2CN7) Posted by: ding at September 18, 2008 01:57 PM (Xomyd) 96
I'd read your stuff maybe but it gives me a headach just to look at block of text.
Posted by: ding at September 18, 2008 01:58 PM (Xomyd) 97
Jeez dude, apply paragraphs pls.
Trust me, it wouldn't make his spittle-flecked rants any more comprehensible. Posted by: Slublog at September 18, 2008 01:59 PM (R8+nJ) Posted by: fulldroolcup at September 18, 2008 01:59 PM (fH1BE) 99
Diderot's Dog = Automatic Moonbat Rant Generator v2.0
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at September 18, 2008 02:02 PM (MFQJZ) 100
Secure in his tenured sinecure in the Department of Derrr, chair-moistener Thomas wrote: "This is stupid even from you. Would you say that Republicans do not ask thier followers to contact editorial board of news papers making demands? What nonsence". A proper analogy, thomas, would be for Republicans to break into the publisher's printing operations to throw sand into the equipment and keep the newspaper from being published. In a drawerful of knives, you, sirrah, are the clam knife.
Posted by: fulldroolcup at September 18, 2008 02:07 PM (fH1BE) 101
Observation #1:
You folks ever hear of "projection"?
This is as far as I got in that insane little screed and and................HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Dude, you may want to look around and see who is trying to stifle any thoughts that are not "correct" as well as who is actually breaking into people's personal e-mail and posting the for public view. (little hint: not us.) Or does Obama's recent comment about us "basically decent people" listening to the "wrong" radio stations and watching the "wrong" television stations not enter into your little alternate world? Clean the vermin from your own home before you start pointing fingers at anyone else, you fucking lunatic. Posted by: wiserbud at September 18, 2008 02:08 PM (fPBAo) 102
Polynikes- I don't doubt we can survive an economic crisis. We have many times before. What we can's survive is the structural damage that is being done by the liberal/socialist agenda in DC. Groups like ACORN and NACA aren't independent community organizers. They are local functionaries of a larger ideology. Groups like ACORN have long been champions of reparations. That is exactly what they have been doing with this CRA crap, transfering wealth through stealth means. They have been threatening and extorting gov't organizations to redistribute our money to inner city activist groups for years in the guise of no money down mortgages and in return they get fealty to the cause. ACORN even required people to take seminars in community organizing as part of the loan swindle. If anyone is still confused about what community organizers do, they won't be for much longer. None of this could have happened without their champions in Congress, most notably the Congressional Black Caucus and the pressure they put on Fannie and Freddie. Anyone who got in their way was a "racist"! Other leaders of this scam were people like Barney Frank who said in 2003 as all this was gaining steam: I want to begin by saying that I am glad to consider the legislation, but I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis. That is, in my view, the two government sponsored enterprises we are talking about here, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not in a crisis. We have recently had an accounting problem with Freddie Mac that has led to people being dismissed, as appears to be appropriate. I do not think at this point there is a problem with a threat to the Treasury. This was a giant ponzi scheme that was bound to come crashing down taking with it financial institutions not just in America but around the world. And you and I get to pay the bill. And most of this got started while Republicans controlled Congress. They just refused to stand against the Maxine Waters of the world. Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2008 02:09 PM (VBon8) Posted by: wiserbud at September 18, 2008 02:10 PM (fPBAo) 104
polynikes at September 18, 2008 01:50 PM (m2CN7) After thinking about it more, I agree Jackstraw that the economic mistakes made by a liberal Congress with no opposition from the Republicans is just as dangerous. After all it is the economic crisis of the 30's that started the slippery slope of socialism in the government. Posted by: polynikes at September 18, 2008 02:13 PM (m2CN7) 105
Observation #2: Someone thinks waaaay too much about fucking penguins.
Posted by: POTL at September 18, 2008 02:13 PM (mD4t/) 106
Jackstraw I just want you to know I posted my response before I read yours. Your first post is what made me concur. Your second post just confirmed my thoughts. Thanks.
Posted by: polynikes at September 18, 2008 02:16 PM (m2CN7) 107
polynikes at September 18, 2008 02:16 PM (m2CN7) No worries. This is going to be an interesting fall. All of this shit is going to start to come tumbling out and a lot of DC liberal elite are going to be frog marching. Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2008 02:18 PM (VBon8) 108
Could you imagine being an associate or (dare I say it, friend) of DD? Dear lord, my eyes glaze over just attempting to read his lunacy. Imagine having to listen to him drone on about penguins and spiders without taking a pause.
DD, I have to ask.... Did you know Tim Mutch? Because, if so, I may have been a little to hard blaming his death on ol' Bob Munck a while back. Posted by: wiserbud at September 18, 2008 02:24 PM (fPBAo) 109
Well, to those who expressed skepticism regarding my little idea: I've been commenting on some of those sites, and I have yet to be banned. In fact, I have set myself a goal of 10 comments per day. I just state the facts and urge people to go back to original source materials to check for themselves to see who's right. Those who do so will almost inevitably wind up agreeing with us.
What I cannot recommend is flaming other commenters, or expressing incohate rage without presenting the facts. That will not persuade the middle ground where this election is going to be decided. That will probably also get you b& (with thanks to Ranba Ral for that one; I had never seen it (or at least noticed it) before, and it made me laugh). Posting here may be fun, and jumping up and down on the trolls may make you feel good, but it is not going to move one single vote away from Obama. Posted by: HT at September 18, 2008 02:32 PM (CZU0o) 110
Way to unify there Barry, send your followers out to angrily proselytize. Thats what Jesus the community organizer would do. "Go forth and get up in their grill! The power of Marxism compels you!"
Posted by: POTL at September 18, 2008 02:36 PM (mD4t/) 111
....little too harsh....
Posted by: wiserbud at September 18, 2008 02:36 PM (fPBAo) 112
It's so easy to ID a Diderot's Dog post and then skip it. You folks who read the whole thing - you're a better man than I am, Gunga Din.
It amazes me that people still think of Liberals as being "open minded". They are open minded only to ideas that agree with their own. I live in VT and I know so many open minded, tolerant Liberals who absolutely hate anything that differs from their point of view. The thing is, they don't see the disconnect. God help you if you try to illustrate it to them. It's a scene that makes Bilbo grabbing for the Ring look like the reaction of a sane individual. Honestly, I've had peace-loving hippies threaten to kill me for just forcing the contradictions. I quit being a Liberal many years ago when I realized that there are indeed some cultures and ideologies that are wrong, or evil or just plain laugh-out-loud stupid. Like the man says, "Once you start down the path to the Dark Side forever will it dominate your destiny" and I haven't looked back since. Posted by: Beppo at September 18, 2008 02:50 PM (Ka5Jh) 113
Friends, the time has come to drop the hammer on this fraud. Throughout his career (in Illinois as well as D.C.), Obama and his minions have engaged in fascist tactics against any who dare speak the truth about him and his ideology. Being from Illinois, I speak as an eye witness to his personal and political putsch. No more, I say. We have to start publically calling him a Fascist. Every time we send off a comment to a blog, every time we write a letter to the editor of any publication that publishes anything regarding him, everytime we have a conversation in public about him, every time we call in to a television or radio program, every poll we take, whenever his name is read or said, the word "Fascist" should either directly precede or immediately follow it. And any sleazeball stupid enough to defend him should also be slammed as fascist fools who need to be driven from our shores. Let it begin here, the same way that gay gossip rag that promotes anti-semitism has now become known as "That Gay Gossip Rag That Promotes Anti-Semitism". Obama = Fascist.
Posted by: Boy from Illinois at September 18, 2008 02:55 PM (a3lE5) 114
Obama would probably get at least two Supreme Court nominations (they'd probably announce their retirement on or before his first week in office).
It's hard to predict who he'd nominate, but if I had to name names, I'd bet Oprah Winfrey and Whoopi Goldberg. Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at September 18, 2008 03:11 PM (vecTS) 115
Say what you want about me. At least I use paragraphes. WTF is up Diderot's mutt. Seriously. That is some gobsmackingly vile grammar and punctuation. I am appalled.
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at September 18, 2008 03:15 PM (wgLRl) 116
"You mother makes shish-kebab in HELL!"
Posted by: mojo at September 18, 2008 03:21 PM (g1cNf) 117
You folks ever hear of "projection"? well I'm about to show you what it is!
Sorry, had to finish that quote for you. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2008 03:25 PM (0+Ggj) 118
Good. Nothing will turn an independent to McCain quicker than some moonbat using their impeccable logic to get them to vote for O. Liberals, please take his advice. O can smoothly hide his radicalism. 98% of his cult-like followers can't. McCain will win by 10% if they unleash their scary skills. Posted by: hoss at September 18, 2008 03:38 PM (USQ2d) 119
I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face," he said.
Ok, and here I am in a lower rent (because I'm cheap) area of Colorado. Can I hope they try the military family next door to me first? At least that neighbor probably (by odds, I don't know him that well) isn't going to be obnoxious about this. If not, the rudeness that the Jehovah Witness gets from me will seem like a pleasant trip to the park when this starts. Posted by: Gekkobear at September 18, 2008 04:01 PM (SvDRb) 120
The "I believe in the 2nd Amendment" is the biggest lie told so far by Obama and that is saying a lot. Let's take a look at his record. Obama may not have been in legislation long, but he did quite a bit against GUN RIGHTS. Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at September 18, 2008 04:09 PM (nIc5q) 121
Who might we call the "Metrosexual Mugabe?"
Posted by: Shaitan at September 18, 2008 04:39 PM (65WaW) 122
As a lifelong Democrat, I can no longer ignore the excesses of my party's nominee... It doesn't work, even as satire. The grammar is correct and there are no misspelled words. I will suggest staying out of my face, lest something happen to yours. Posted by: MarkD at September 18, 2008 04:42 PM (MMy4A) 123
This "get in their faces" crap is real. I can hear another grad student over on the other end of the office evangelizing about Obama. In go my headphones! The little twit also made a tasteless joke about McCain yesterday, which he then "apologized" to me for just so he could make sure I heard it.
Fuckers. I'm keeping them around only so I can drink their sweet tears come November. Posted by: Angry Beaver at September 18, 2008 05:02 PM (7sVL1) 124
Is encouraging such thuggery an example of the "community organizing" of which Obama is so proud?
Yes. Next question. Posted by: Oldsmoblogger at September 18, 2008 05:26 PM (VdaFT) Posted by: Oldsmoblogger at September 18, 2008 05:27 PM (VdaFT) 126
Famous Chicago politicians: William "Big Bill" Thompson, "Bathhouse" John Coughlin, Michael "Hinky Dink" Kenna, and last but not least, Barack "Teleprompter" Obama. Posted by: Pelayo at September 18, 2008 05:27 PM (nw+cE) 127
Scratch a liberal, find a fascist.
Posted by: jukin at September 18, 2008 06:14 PM (dCKOO) 128
48/ HT "aren't we missing a real chance to make our case, politely and with
facts, on the websites that might actually reach persuadable voters?"
It's very very doubtful that the persuadables are out there, in large numbers, reading blog comment threads. But it can't be ruled out, either. The thing about these Obama cultists, and leftists in general, is that they don't want to know what they don't want to know, but they DO want to see new iterations of the phony bullshit that they already do "know." They seek reinforcement for their belief system, innuddawoids. Because I'm evil, and unprincipled, and am willing to learn from David Astroturf Axlerod, I've developed this devious tactic, my gift to you morons: 1/ Go onto a leftist blog with a comments section. 2/ Post an anti-Obama fact, a true fact, one that's on-topic and relevant to their discussion, only substitute the term "McCain" for "Obama." c.f. "McCain's cronies are directly responsible for the corruption at Fraudie Mac and Fannie Mae." Don't make shit up, and don't use facts whose ONLY support comes from righty blogs & websites. 3/ Support your point by posting a link. heh heh heh heh ... you see where this is heading, right? 4/ The link, obviously, should lead to a straight news story, or as close to a s.n.s. as can be found, which presents the harmful-to-Obama fact. Ideally, when available, you should link to NYT or WaPo or AP, so they can't dismiss the evidence out-of-hand. The punchlines won't be as funny, but it makes up for it by being harder for them to ignore. 5/ The link may actually BE obvious, i.e. may lead to Patterico or Hot Air or LGF or Tim Blair or even here to AoS, or some other site they dislike. If they see that, their information-resistance systems will kick in, and they won't click the link. SO... in this case, tinyurl.com is your good friend. Go forth, morons, and infiltrate! Infiltrate like the wind! MwahaHAhaHAhaHAhahaha!!! Posted by: Father Mocker at September 18, 2008 07:24 PM (kJ8Tc) 129
"McCain may not be perfect, but he's preferable to Obama" A dead fish is preferable to Obama. And I don't mean that as a knock against McCain. "One of the great ironies of this election is that liberals are worshiping a guy who embodies everything they claim to hate about the Bush administration." Hey, look, irony. Posted by: SpideyTerry at September 18, 2008 07:32 PM (SBpQO) 130
"Diderot's dog at September 18, 2008 01:48 PM (nrD02)
Jeez dude, apply paragraphs pls." And preferably, apply it somewhere else. Douchebag. Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at September 18, 2008 07:36 PM (kJ8Tc) 131
JackStraw, those posts were very enlightening. As to the Dems being frogmarched, so far they seem to have managed to stay out of the spotlight and dump the blame on Bush. The media are aiding in this. So what are the chances of their (and their "milk the taxpayer" role in this debacle becoming widely known, let alone their being punished for it? Posted by: Erwin Hussein O'Barry at September 18, 2008 07:45 PM (eepJm) 132
Erwin-
Hope springs eternal. One thing we have going for us in this scandal, everyone is taking it in the shorts. This isn't some nebulous event, we are all going to feel pain for quite some time. If someone steals from you, it kinda pisses me off. When they steal from me, I am ready for retribution. Posted by: JackStraw at September 18, 2008 08:19 PM (WL5K6) 133
we all saw this kind of piling on during the democratic primariers. no different than the oborg's attacks on individual bloggers, or attempts to shut down PUMA blogs on blogspot by flagging them as spam.
only thing different this time is that it's old media that are the target, and the obama campaign doesn't even bother with plausible deniability any more. its a sign that they think they are ahead. these guys have a pure friend vs foe view of politics -- it's always war to them. god forbid they should ever get their hands on state power. Posted by: londonamerican at September 18, 2008 08:30 PM (xjUer) 134
Guys, I consider myself a pretty tough chick, but reading this thread and the responses I truly am scared if Obama wins. Everything I have learned about him and seen from his followers, I am absolutely convinced that he and his radical Leftists will absolutely destroy America as I know it and as the Founders intended. After all, Liberal policies have already destroyed the institutions which they control - education, families, Hollywood, "free press," academia, etc. Where can I go if he wins? The rest of the world is already pretty much a socialist wet dream. Where are the conservative utopias? Unlike the Liberals who reneged on their promise to leave the country when Bush2 won twice, I almost would rather get outta Dodge than live under an Obama Administration and watch him destroy my country with the full complicity of the national media. I'm at the point now where whether he wins or loses, I'm seriously considering buying my first gun just for self-protection, while I still can; maybe even relocate to Alaska and find some bunker or cave to hole up in and wait out his four years. But then I'm afraid that if I actually have to use it in self-defense, I'll be dragged through the courts and the mud by the trial lawyers before being tossed in the clink to rot...which the idiots already want to do to Republicans: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/16/janeane-garofolo-great-jail-all-republicans. I know, I know, consider the source, but there still are enough nutjobs in this country who agree. I really and truly fear for my actual life if Obama oozes his way into the White House and silences any dissenting opinions to his radical worldview. Obama's "change" will be turning Amerika into what the former Soviet Union once was, and we all know how well that turned out. I'm trying to stay positive, praying for a McPalin landslide, and remembering that (1) God is still in control, and (2) this Earth is not my final home, but still. How do we get rid of these America-hating leftists in our country anyway? They have the rest of the world who wants their policies, why can't they leave us alone? Someone hold me and tell me it's gonna be all right. Posted by: Nunya at September 18, 2008 10:20 PM (ccuPW) 135
I think telling his minions to get in people's faces was a good Idea, that will give me a more legitimate reason to smack one of them.
Posted by: Janee at September 19, 2008 01:29 AM (WjQ7p) 136
"13
There is a simple word for this...
LIBERAL FASCISM Someone should write a book..." ----You mean like Jonah Goldberg's excellent book "Liberal Fascism?" Obama's mentioned, you know. It's worth a read. Posted by: ObamaHatesWomen at September 19, 2008 01:33 AM (tWGBg) 137
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Where can I go if he wins? The rest of the world is already pretty much a socialist wet dream."
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