"Anonymous" Claims Hack of Palin's Personal Email Account; Reveals Emails

It's come to this.

More at Wired.

Thanks to MVL, Kenneth, jp.

Posted by: Ace at 02:21 PM



Comments

1 Gabe,

Is email protected in the same way that regular mail is? It's illegal to steal someone's regular mail, is it the same with email?

Posted by: Benson at September 17, 2008 02:24 PM (qzcNU)

2

Go straight to Jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200 and a BJ from Keith Olbermann.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at September 17, 2008 02:24 PM (lhxhu)

3 As I said on the other thread, War is upon us. Saruman's crebain circle in the air above us, and Isengard has been unleased.
Stand by for incoming hordes of orcs.

Posted by: Aragorn at September 17, 2008 02:26 PM (wgLRl)

4 ...I'm not buying it

Posted by: billygoat at September 17, 2008 02:26 PM (vlmzk)

5 Before you get all swiveted up, consider the source.
It could be real, but since this is a bit of 4/chan business, it's just as likely a punk. It might be a complete or partial put-on.

This week's flavor of Jason Fortuny style hoaxing ?- "Sarah Palin had it coming" y'all.

Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 02:27 PM (7sl9X)

6 Like I said in the last thread:
"it says came from a private e-mail account belonging to Governor Sarah Palin at gov.palin@yahoo.com. "
Wow, she is really sneaky and shit, trying too hide her private e-mail. Must be some bad stuff in there.

Posted by: Javems at September 17, 2008 02:27 PM (hq71Y)

7 I checked out this "anonymous" group out when they first went after the CoS. I thought their cause was a good one, but after a few weeks of interacting with these basement dwellers I came to one conclusion. There is absolutely nothing "cool" about anonymous.

Posted by: Sammy316 at September 17, 2008 02:28 PM (u3X3J)

8 This ain't Scientology. The guys who did this had better be off shore or they are fucked big time. I don't care how much it helps the Dems these guys will get roasted by both parties.

Posted by: Rocks at September 17, 2008 02:28 PM (Q1lie)

9 I presume Sullivan is soiling himself with joy right now.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at September 17, 2008 02:29 PM (W54Uh)

10 "Crushing dissent through stealing private information is the highest form of patriotism and liberty."

- Thomas Jefferson


Posted by: Stuff Jefferson Said at September 17, 2008 02:31 PM (AQj/2)

11 Punk or not, it's good enough for another commercial. Thanks lefty nutsuckers!

Posted by: Bugler at September 17, 2008 02:31 PM (YCVBL)

12 Here's the first pic. Doesn't sound overly authentic, but maybe that's just me.

Posted by: Benson at September 17, 2008 02:32 PM (qzcNU)

13 Gawker has the goods.

Posted by: Rocks at September 17, 2008 02:32 PM (Q1lie)

14 While the emails released so far reveal little, the list of
correspondence appears to re-enforce the criticism that Palin is mixing
governmental and personal affairs.

Dude. It's a friggin' yahoo account. It's not some hoity-toity business email.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 17, 2008 02:33 PM (FO+YO)

15 Gee, as a conservative Christian I am concerned.
While I was setting on my bench for mass from pastor Goldberg, I got to thinking.
Why don't we do the same shit those filthy scandi love Obama people do?
Like, I mean, why doesn't Karl ask us all to email MSNBC a million times and shut down their server? Or like, call the NBC switchboard a million times so NBC can not get any calls?
I mean they do it, are we too proud to go to the gutter like they do?
This is war, and I have prayed about it and we need to start doing this stuff.
Jesus would approve of this sort of community action, he told me so at Mass, just before I was baptized in the big pool.
Sally

Posted by: Sally from St. Louis at September 17, 2008 02:33 PM (2+9Yx)

16 There's a huge, concerned Moby, Greg King,getting around the net today, very early today at this Alaska newspaper, and now being quoted on lefty sites like HuffPo:

I am an American, a veteran of the 82nd Division, 505th Airborne Infantry, a member of the Republican Party and I am outraged at the irresponsibility of my Party's reprehensible and shameful use of misinformation to divide our country and pit American against American. I am not part of the "angry left"; I am part of the growing "angry right" who are becoming more and more disenfranchised with our own Party.

http://tinyurl.com/4cnabl

Here he is at the Denver Post:
http://tinyurl.com/3h48po

And here he is at a radio station where he is challenged on his background, but the thread seems to be dead now:
http://tinyurl.com/4zeoz3

Can anyone do anything to track this guy down? Maybe at a military or veterans' site? I tried my own Googling, but only came up with his letter being quoted because I've got weak googlefu and it's a common name. (And, ironically enough, it's also the name of the Green Party candidate in my riding [district] in Toronto for the Canadian election.)

Posted by: andycanuck at September 17, 2008 02:33 PM (oFuWo)

17 I don't doubt that this occurred. I definitely doubt the context into which it has been placed, owing to the selectiveness of the leak.
And like others, I suspect this will lead to a massive number of indictments and some serious jail time for anyone who handled this email whether they did the hacking or not.
You just don't hack Secret Service protectees email, dude.
You just don't.

Posted by: pollwatcher at September 17, 2008 02:34 PM (Ncq2X)

18 I feel sorry the the people on her contact list. They might as well delete those addresses right now.

Posted by: Rocks at September 17, 2008 02:34 PM (Q1lie)

19 If you accept this at face value, you deserve to be punked.

As likely or not this is a faked account, with the "hack" password to content. The content could be real but kluged from OTHER sources.

There are other possiblities also in between total put on job and real.

Mawebolence guys. Look it up.

Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 02:34 PM (7sl9X)

20 contained personal photosa hand-drawn likeness ofa sneering Palin condemning political enemies in sackclothto gulags recently built at taxpayer expensein Alaska's frigid northern tundra. The drawing was apparently smuggled out by one such kulak, who was later used as crab bait on a Todd Palin trawler.
I never thought I'd say this: Please, please win, McCain. The gloating would be good for me.

Posted by: railwriter at September 17, 2008 02:35 PM (nwEiU)

21 one of her aides confirmed the email shown in the pic is legit.

there are alot of emails that are in that account not posted yet, cross fingers nothing damaging.

Posted by: jp at September 17, 2008 02:37 PM (DFDtC)

22 Richard Nixon is taking this news pretty poorly. He keeps mumbling incoherently about how stupid it was to not call the plumbers "anonymous."

Posted by: The Barbed Cock of Satan at September 17, 2008 02:39 PM (zK1MQ)

23 14 Gawker has the goods.
Posted by: Rocks at September 17, 2008 02:32 PM (Q1lie)
Bullshit. Gawker is playing it like it's the fucking Nixon destroying the tapes.
I guess the Action Alert from Teleprompter Jesus to cut out the shenanigans did not take.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 17, 2008 02:39 PM (wgLRl)

24 Palin has come under fire for using private e-mail accounts to conduct state business.
Critics allege that she uses the account to get around public records
laws, as the Bush administration has also been charged with doing.

Jeez.... everyone in the world mixes business and personal when it comes to email.

Posted by: JsinGood at September 17, 2008 02:40 PM (jthe+)

25 Man this has me pissed off. This is terrible and dirty regardless of whether or not it's true.
If true, it is a gross violation of a person's privacy. Not just one person but every person who Gov. Palin has emailed at that account or who has sent her an email.
If false, it is a despicable lie with intent to destroy Governor Palin.
Either way I hope there are massive reprocussions for the perpetrators.
I suspect, if many people are as pissed as I am right now, there will soon be another surge of supportfor Sarah Palin and the McCain Palin ticket.

Posted by: t.ferg at September 17, 2008 02:40 PM (2YVh7)

26 From the wikileaks page:
::SOURCE: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/10/palin-email-privilege/::SOURCE: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/09/15-7

Posted by: JWF at September 17, 2008 02:42 PM (1l37M)

27 The supposed "scandal" is that she conducted "official business" on this account which is beyond the usual subpoena power.

The problem with finding anything "damaging" is that if you find a needle in an email haystack, there's no proof that it was part of the haystack to begin with.

Pretty much as sleazy as it gets. Looks like the Obama machine has nothing on the Clintons, eh?

Posted by: AmishDude at September 17, 2008 02:43 PM (T0NGe)

28 For as good as the protests against Scientology may be, one just has to spend a couple minutes at /b/ before it becomes clear once again that Anonymous are by and large some really creepy, messed up people.

Posted by: Shawn, but not lowercased shawn at September 17, 2008 02:43 PM (VW1Sj)

29 If they are real, there is nothing in them to hurt her. That is why they are claiming that the deletion of the account, if that is what happened, as a result of them hacking into it, is the destruction of evidence ..... hahahahahahahah!

Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 17, 2008 02:44 PM (r0DWc)

30 the email to Parnell isn't that bad, one of the few that is posted so far. wonder if whatever loser is behind this is trying to get a payoff?

Posted by: jp at September 17, 2008 02:44 PM (DFDtC)

31 Remember how in 1998 every liberal thinking person was outraged that Linda Tripp would invade Monica Lewinsky's privacy by taping phone calls that at least Tripp participated in on one side.

Yet this is an outright invasion of privacy.

I'm sure there will be significantly less outrage though from our liberal friends.

Posted by: Rick at September 17, 2008 02:45 PM (9tSdF)

32 Either way I hope there are massive reprocussions for the perpetrators.
Me too. And I hope those repercussions involve a vengeful Vice President Palin, a purple strap-on, velcro restraints,and a soundproofedromper-room in the Naval Observatory. With no "safe" words.

Posted by: railwriter at September 17, 2008 02:45 PM (nwEiU)

33 Just imagine how embolden these people will become if they win? Is there a point for these people where enough is enough?

Posted by: David at September 17, 2008 02:45 PM (NgoAe)

34 Anonymous is not an organized group, and partisan politics like this is a little off the reservation for them. This is one dude who thinks of him self as Anonymous, and may be part of the legion of Anonymous, but he's not the sum total of Anonymous. It's tough to nail down, because Anonymous kinda' toys with the concept of a group entity.
I liked them more when they were bashing Scientology, rather than hacking e-mails. Maybe if they hack Obama's e-mail we could call it even. Somehow I imagine there's more damning stuff in there anyway.

Posted by: Shillelagh at September 17, 2008 02:46 PM (Oz4Bj)

35 You know, I thought Bush hatred was bad, but the volume of bile and viciousness thrown at Sarah Palin has been truly unbelievable.

Posted by: Slublog at September 17, 2008 02:47 PM (R8+nJ)

36 "I liked them more when they were bashing Scientology, rather than hacking e-mails. "

Or, pretending to hack emails.

Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 02:47 PM (7sl9X)

37 The comments from the Gawker link provided by our Rocks are priceless.
This one is epsecially, what's the word, oh yeah, rich.

On the one hand, wow. Awesome. On the other hand... this won't do much
to dissuade her supporters of the persecution complex they've developed
of late, now will it?

Now why would anyone think that Gov Palin is being persecuted?

btw, Jesus was persecuted.

Posted by: Bart at September 17, 2008 02:49 PM (w3NmV)

38 Or some variation on that theme that lies between.

Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 02:49 PM (7sl9X)

39 This has to be faked. I agree that they could have obtained enough source material from other emails that perhaps people have forwarded around. They could have used those as a base and then made up a bunch more to make it all look real. They would just need a couple real emails to be verified to create the perception the whole thing is real. I just checked around the web and noticed this isn't running on Drudge or at MSM outlets. My guess is they were able to determine pretty quickly that it's a hoax and didn't want to get anywhere near the thing. Of course that could change and maybe they're just running a little late on this. Who knows.
Either way as I said before this is bad and I hope the punks behind this get nailed.

Posted by: t.ferg at September 17, 2008 02:50 PM (2YVh7)

40 Way past the time to nail criminal's asses to the wall.
Public stocks for these assclowns NOW!

Posted by: East Bay patriot at September 17, 2008 02:50 PM (h/5U0)

41 I condone this.

Posted by: Adolf Christ at September 17, 2008 02:50 PM (o1ZtJ)

42 38 btw, Jesus was persecuted.
You got that right!

Posted by: Jesus at September 17, 2008 02:51 PM (vlmzk)

43 If the email addy was real or fake is a question. Was it dormant or active?

Is the content real, put on, assembled or some combination of any or all of those possibilities?

What does Palin say?

Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 02:53 PM (7sl9X)

44 Did you know elected officials have to comply with the law?

So when they're conducting political matters relevant to the promotion of their political party THEY ARE PROHIBITED from using taxpayer resources to conduct these affairs. That means no use of taxpayer computers, mobile devices, servers, etc.

Compliance with the law is apparently a new thought crime.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at September 17, 2008 02:53 PM (AHrTm)

45 if 4chan / anoynmous is who I think it is, they are paultards(anarchist) and behind spamming online polls last year for paul .

wouldn't be suprising, they also are very anti-FISA and Patriot Act and all about "Privacy". heh

Posted by: jp at September 17, 2008 02:54 PM (DFDtC)

46 This could be really bad. Not for Palin, but for Yahoo. Emails are easily forged to fool the unsuspecting with a little knowledge of the SMTP protocol, and can be forged (albeit more difficult) to fool the suspecting with a little knowledge of TCP protocol.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 02:55 PM (1hSHv)

47 bogus

they just signed up for the account to frame her:

do a google search for the exact phrase, and you'll see that "In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org."

child pornography. yep. this is a "by any means necessary" move

Posted by: anonymous at September 17, 2008 02:55 PM (Vwqdb)

48 This group won't be friendly to Obama. Maybe Fox Mulder, but certainly nobody at Team Obama.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at September 17, 2008 02:56 PM (AHrTm)

49 I blame President Bush for a lot of this shit. If the DOJ would have came down hard on the some of the leaks and such, this shit would stop. As it is, DOJ, and Bushplaying nice.
And save the "prosecute your rivals" BS. If laws are broken they are f'n broken.
If the enemy/competitor gives you an opening, exploit it. Don't make shit up. Exploit the facts to your benefit.

Posted by: Russell Ziskey at September 17, 2008 02:57 PM (LlaBi)

50 And this one regarding Gov Palin's email contact list makes me angry:


So tempted to enact spam anarchy on this list. . .


If I could get my hands on that slimy cocksucker...

Posted by: Bart at September 17, 2008 02:57 PM (w3NmV)

51 Oh, come on, Gabriel, you know that this is illegal...somehow...for some reason...we just have to have time to make it up...hold on...Mr. Axelrod, can you help?

So Sarah Palin not only uses email, but has a Yahoo account, not just an account given to her. I guess that makes her not out of touch then?

I just can't follow the Obama campaign's logic as to what is a disqualifier for president and what isn't.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 17, 2008 02:58 PM (T0NGe)

52 "

Anonymous is not an organized group, and partisan politics like this
is a little off the reservation for them. This is one dude who thinks
of him self as Anonymous, and may be part of the legion of Anonymous,
but he's not the sum total of Anonymous. It's tough to nail down,
because Anonymous kinda' toys with the concept of a group entity.

I liked them more when they were bashing Scientology, rather than
hacking e-mails. Maybe if they hack Obama's e-mail we could call it
even. Somehow I imagine there's more damning stuff in there anyway.

Posted by: Shillelagh at September 17, 2008 02:46 PM (Oz4Bj)"
This is basically true. I used to hang out at 4chan alot, and there were enough people there who were just annoyed that their "name" was being sullied by "activists." That's not really what they're about. There's hundreds of thousands of people around the world who go to that site, and nobody knows who anyone else is. Just because a certain hacker claims he is part of anonymous doesn't mean there's some "head" who approves of what he does. Those people will do whatever they think will be entertaining. Its like chaos incarnate.
I read about an instance when some stupid kid posted on their website that he was going to go and shoot up his school, he included pictures and stuff. "Anonymous" decided it would be more entertaining to foil this jackass's plan and reported him to the police and he was arrested within a couple hours. Its totally bizarre. There is no face.

Posted by: james at September 17, 2008 02:59 PM (WH9G2)

53 Did you know elected officials have to comply with the law?
Did you know we have things called WARRANTS, jackass? And law enforcement PEOPLE to execute the warrants, uber-jackass? And exactly where was your OUTRAGE when savior of the polar bear and he of the amazing carbon-less footprint was raising money from the f'in WHITE HOUSE, uber-sturm-gruppe-fuhrer jackass?
FOAD, Gabriel Sutherland--you Stasi-esque caricature of a shrieking lefty stereotype.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 17, 2008 03:00 PM (B+qrE)

54 There was a Digg submission of the results and it appears to have been deleted. Photobucket had been hosting screenshots and the page can no longer be found. 4Chan has been deleting posts and banning people for posting screenshots, etc.. Nice to know that there's some some of responsibility out there.

Posted by: Benson at September 17, 2008 03:01 PM (qzcNU)

55 I am not part of the "angry
left"; I am part of the growing "angry right" who are becoming more and
more disenfranchised with our own Party.

Freudian slip much?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 17, 2008 03:02 PM (Ds4I5)

56 andycanuck, I can tell you this much - Morrison is a town outside of Denver. And there's a Greg King listed in Morrison. Dunno if it's the same guy.

Any Republican living in Morrison is bound to be a little odd. It's an odd town.

Posted by: Alice H at September 17, 2008 03:03 PM (jRtPb)

57 Who the fuckwould have a yahoo account labeled Gov.Palin?
Even the lefty don't think she is that stupid, oh, well I guess they do.
Oh, and by the way, that witch doctor is a friend of my, so lay the fuck off him.
Or, I'll put a curse on YOUR ass!

Posted by: Pastor Goldberg at September 17, 2008 03:04 PM (2+9Yx)

58 James, that's half true. There are some "all the usual suspects" behind some of the hoaxing and griefing, to round up. For sure all kinds of mopes and hangers on.

Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 03:04 PM (7sl9X)

59 The viciousness of the Palin phenomenon backlash is as bad as anything that has ever gone down in America. It's unreal.


Posted by: Vern at September 17, 2008 03:04 PM (ijVRQ)

60 I have the screenshots downloaded, they are on Wikileaks unless down already.

they only put up a few emails, but you can see in screenshots her account had atleast 100 in inbox and around that many in other folders to go through

Posted by: jp at September 17, 2008 03:07 PM (DFDtC)

61 lol, Circa

I'm actually defending the use of Yahoo or RNC blackberries to conduct political matters for the party.

The Hatch Rule is good for the Federal government. Whatever offspring it spawned for Alaska is also likely a good thing.

Use private resources for political party communications.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at September 17, 2008 03:07 PM (AHrTm)

62 However, the e-mail index from Palin's account does appear to
indicate that she has been using it for both private and official
business, with one entry addressed to California Gov. Arnold
Schwarzenegger

Oh, please. This is their evidence? A listing of emails? I think we all know what the contents of that email are:

Dear Gov. Schwartzeneggerlease stop calling my house. No, I will not ever have three-way "monkey sex" with you and Maria, or anyone else. Not ever. Stop it or Todd will hunt you down like the Terminator, only for reals. S.P.

Posted by: Phinn at September 17, 2008 03:07 PM (NLtoU)

63 I think this email address has been reported recently in the news, they tried to make a big deal of her using Yahoo...so that is how the hackers knew

Posted by: jp at September 17, 2008 03:08 PM (DFDtC)

64 If she was using the yahoo account for political stuff and/or other personal stuff, and not actual state business, that shows she was complying with the law to the letter. Do any of the posted messages show true state business, or are they all political stuff? If they are not real state business, this is a win for her "Yes, that is my account, i set it up so that I could in no way use Alaska official resources for my personal polttical use"

Posted by: THATGUY at September 17, 2008 03:13 PM (1A+/f)

65 #58 Thanks, Alice.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 17, 2008 03:14 PM (oFuWo)

66 Her Yahoo acount doesn't look like mine, so until proven otherwise, it's a hoax.

Posted by: saint at September 17, 2008 03:16 PM (kQ7Jt)

67 What to make of this:
Hoax? Maybe but the fact that there is nothing damaging says no. Why hoax with no payoff? Unless it's coming later.

Hurts Palin? Not really.
She has a Yahoo account..who doesn't? So it actually helps.
State business on personal account? Ditto. Is this really going to bother anybody but the MSM? Besides it looks more political than official anyway.

Overall this make her seem very much like everybody else which in politics only hurts if you are trying to be The One.

Posted by: Rocks at September 17, 2008 03:19 PM (Q1lie)

68 ahhhhh! Obama's account has been hacked too!!!!



http://___228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=42515574hb2.png

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 03:23 PM (1hSHv)

69 However, the e-mail index from Palin's account does appear to indicate that she has been using it for both private and official business, with one entry addressed to California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger
It'll never hold up in court.

Posted by: Myron Mouthpiece, esq. at September 17, 2008 03:25 PM (vlmzk)

70 I hope it is true because a cyber attack against a United States Vice Presidential candidate incurs the same wrath as it would from the secret service whether she were elected, or it were committed against Biden under the same circumstances.


Posted by: USAFDave at September 17, 2008 03:25 PM (Gr4ZC)

71 The concern trolls made an early appearance in the networkworld.com article.
"Palin's an idiot anyway - this just adds more feul to the controversy. She was like, his last-minute, scrambling 5th choice because the RNP old gaurd kept slapping back his other choices. They wanted him to go with Mit Romney (just as the Dems wanted Obama to go with Hilary). McCain thought he go ahead and alientate more of the Republican conservatives by selecting a woman - 'cause he's a "maverick". Puh-LEASE! The women I've talked said they're not stupid. He was also hoping to steal some "Hilray-lover" votes from Obama; sadly backfired. These just go to show that the Repubs are more interested in the policitics of making gestures rather than of creating substance.
Say what you want about Obama, Biden, etc. (I'm a Republican), but c'mon; Sarah Palin? who's smoking what in the McCain camp?!"

Posted by: conservativeinthecity at September 17, 2008 03:25 PM (i3tSP)

72 RiteWingFascist, that's pretty funny. Did you Shop that?

Posted by: Rocks at September 17, 2008 03:26 PM (Q1lie)

73 I know this will come as something of a shock to left wing activists but there really are decent christian people in this world . I suspect that Mrs. Palin is one of them.

I'm not one of them . I fell off that wagon a long time ago but I've been fortunate enough in my life to have known several people in that mold . If these mudslinging scumbags can come up with anything negative about Gov. Palin , I'll eat my fuckin' hat.

Posted by: aubrey at September 17, 2008 03:28 PM (q/Z0+)

74 The behaviors of "Anonymous" simply prove that even if one is not born retarded, hard work and dedication can more than make up for it.

Posted by: Glen at September 17, 2008 03:28 PM (L912U)

75 Well, it will be interesting to see if the MSM tries to give this "emailgate" legs while ignoring the Obama/Ayers connection.

Posted by: Bart at September 17, 2008 03:30 PM (w3NmV)

76 @Rocks

Heck no! I am now the owner of barak.HObama@yahoo.com account!

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 03:31 PM (1hSHv)

77
From the comments:
-----------

The last line has been crossed.

Democrats had better pray Obama doesn't win, because my friends and
I are now justified in hunting them down and destroying their personal
lives.

Geeks, journalists, celebrities...they will ALL wish they were dead.

You want HATE?

You want WAR?

You've got it.

These Obama employees working with WikiLeaks are a good place to start.

I hope they don't have families.
--------------
Thank goodness the Obama people are so post-partisan, and will change the way Washington works soon. Otherwise, some really pissed off righties might get serious and do horrible things to them. Like this guy.
If Obama wins, he will be hated more than the right hated Clinton, and more than the left hates W, if that's possible ... hmm, now that I think about it, it probably is.

Posted by: Thinking things over at September 17, 2008 03:33 PM (EQYOq)

78
Heck no! I am now the owner of barak.HObama@yahoo.com account!
Funny shit man...

Posted by: Rocks at September 17, 2008 03:34 PM (Q1lie)

79 I don't buy it. It's not Anonymous' style. Crashing the McCain/Palin website or replacing it with Goatse, THAT'S Anonymous. A sneaky e-mail hack to what looks like an unofficial address is too low-key for them.

Since the campaign against the Church of Scientology, everybody and his brother knows who Anonymous is, anyway. It would be awfully easy to fake something--say, with a dummy e-mail set up for the occasion--and give it credence by claiming the infamous hackers got it. Dump the blame on a nebulous group of b-tards, and nobody'll know the difference.

And seriously? Eighty-something unread e-mails in a private inbox? Nobody has that much personal correspondence.

Posted by: Tungsten_Monk at September 17, 2008 03:39 PM (70S/e)

80 Hoax? Maybe but the fact that there is nothing damaging says no. Why hoax with no payoff?

You would presume the motive would be to damage Palin with maliciously falsified content. The motive, (besides the usual joys obtained by griefing and punking) would probably be to highlight the allegation that Palin used private email to conduct public business, to "hide" things from oversight or supoena.

That is oh so 4/chan.

Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 03:43 PM (7sl9X)

81 And seriously? Eighty-something unread e-mails in a private inbox? Nobody has that much personal correspondence.

Umm ... okaaay ....

Posted by: Thinking things over at September 17, 2008 03:44 PM (EQYOq)

82 To: sluttybristol221@yahoo.com
From: gov.palin@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: mama, I got myself knocked up

Okay, fine, I'll cover for you by faking a pregnancy and pretending the baby is mine, but JUST THIS ONCE!!! If you get knocked up again immediately after giving birth to this one, you're on your own.

BTW, I'll be out of town the rest of the week having an affair with John McCain. I figure if he wins the nomination, maybe he'll pick me as his Vice President (even though I'm totally unqualified and don't even know what a vice president does lol).

PS: Be sure to delete this email and don't show it to anyone. If this got out, it could cause lifelong conservative Christian Republicans to become concerned.

Posted by: Andy Sullivan's Dreams at September 17, 2008 03:44 PM (saRwI)

83 Tungsten, Fortuny has certainly been capable of some subtlety.

I could see it either way. Even a real hack. Either way, some skepticism is warranted until it's confirmed by a reliable spokesperson. Wired would not be that.

Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 03:46 PM (7sl9X)

84 Okay, computer nerds (and I use that term in a friendly manner):What are the chances this is fake, and what are the chances that, no indulging in denial and no matter how you may want it to be so otherwise, What are the chances this is real?
If probably a hoax, then good. But if this does happen to be real, I want to be able to stare this straight in the face. You folks with a helluva lot more tech savvy than I, what are the chances, either way.

Posted by: Lee at September 17, 2008 03:48 PM (TxTIh)

85 Posted by: Andy Sullivan's Dreams at September 17, 2008 03:44 PM (saRwI)

~ LMAO ~

Posted by: Thinking things over at September 17, 2008 03:49 PM (EQYOq)

86 @Lee

It would take either knowing Palin's password, or the encrypted hash Yahoo uses to validate an email password. So the chances go with the same chances as: What are the chances some one that knows Palin's password leaked it? What are the chances Palin had a password that was pretty easy to guess? What are the chances Yahoo's security is so weak that some one could brute force a password hash?

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 03:52 PM (1hSHv)

87 couldn't someone just call the McCain camp and ask if this is legit.

Charles Johnson seems to think it is

Posted by: jp at September 17, 2008 03:53 PM (DFDtC)

88 Someone help me out here...

What, specifically, is the law that Palin is supposedly violating? I looked at the Alaska statutes but haven't found anything that requires Palin to only use a particular email address.

Posted by: John Tant at September 17, 2008 03:54 PM (tVWQB)

89 To add, Im going with (if its even real), that Palin's password was either leaked, or it was a pretty easy to guess password.

Surely yahoo would notice some one trying to brute force their way in to an account. If it wasnt a brute force hack, then it had to be a security concern that would have exposed 100% of all yahoo users. If either one of those is true, see a yahoo stock plunge and firings left and right.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 03:56 PM (1hSHv)

90 The motive, (besides the usual joys obtained by griefing and punking)
would probably be to highlight the allegation that Palin used private
email to conduct public business, to "hide" things from oversight or
supoena.


Yeah but there's nothing with public business either from what I have seen.
I think this was strictly showing off myself. But it isn't much as the address was already known. The password was probably something dumb like Barracuda or something, that isn't much of a hack.

I am not saying this is real though. This could be faked easily. And calling it "Anonymous" means nothing. it could be anybody.


Posted by: Rocks at September 17, 2008 03:56 PM (Q1lie)

91 I dream with you Andy. lmao

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at September 17, 2008 03:59 PM (AHrTm)

92 @jp

I used to go to LGF everyday and read, but his laughable rants on Windows, and constant blind knob sucking of all things open source became unbearable. Hardly the person I would want validating anything tech related.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 04:00 PM (1hSHv)

93 @Topsecretk9

No, because unless they are stupid, they store a hash of the password, and not the password itself.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 04:02 PM (1hSHv)

94 John Tant - the complaint, as I understand it, was always more of whether she might use personal email to make it more difficult to get lawful access to emails pertaining to government business. Not that she did. But that she might. Being all secretive and vindictive like she is. /sarc

Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 04:03 PM (7sl9X)

95 BOGUS. They are upset because those emails show a public servant conducting her personal and political business with a private email account. Well, I am shocked, since that is precisely what the law requires.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 17, 2008 04:05 PM (wgLRl)

96 Of course it could be a real hack or figuring out of a password. However, I am and you should yourself maintain some skepticism until there is real verification of a breech.

You seem to be hung up on this idea that faking a smoking gun would be the point. Rather, the point would be to make you think about something not getting a lot of attention that is bugging a 4/chan type. Who would also like to show off.
Or just make a lot of people stomp and opine for his amusement.

Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 04:09 PM (7sl9X)

97 I'm glad I'm not running for VP... Let's just say that "Hentai-gate" would not be a pretty spectacle.

Posted by: DoDoGuRu at September 17, 2008 04:10 PM (xBkZj)

98 <blockquote>Could a yahoo tech leak a password?</blockquote>
Unlikely. Yahoo is probably encrypting passwords. Furthermore, they also log your host connection when you access your account. Yahoo will know from where you are accessing your account.

Internet banking software uses a second level of security to prevent unauthorized access. When you first access your bank account online they will prompt you with another line of questioning. Your answer will then be set to a cookie that is copied to your computer. When you try to access your account from another computer, you'll have to answer the question again. If answered correctly, the cookie will migrate to the new computer.

I don't think Yahoo uses this security, but they might have something similar if you enter the wrong password after three attempts.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at September 17, 2008 04:10 PM (AHrTm)

99 Ummm....alaska.com is some portal run by the Anchorage Daily News (which is owned by "speaking truth to power" McClatchy.).

Why the fuck would Palin send supposedly damning email to an account on a server run by a moonbat outfit like McClatchy?

The stench of fakery here is overwhelming.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 17, 2008 04:11 PM (6L459)

100 Gawker is pageview whoring today. They even typed up a list of email addresses from the address book of the account.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at September 17, 2008 04:18 PM (AHrTm)

101 In the screen grabs they posted,
Inbox.......84

Sure. My ass.
My Inbox says 1182 over two years and I'm a schlub. Er, well... maybe... just not that important.

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at September 17, 2008 04:23 PM (F1b/5)

102 <a href="http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/09/17/doj-to-investigate-palin-email-breach/">Department of Justice sez "Whazzup, Hackers?"</a>

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 17, 2008 04:26 PM (wgLRl)

103 My AoS linkfu sucks out loud.
Attempt #2: http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/09/17/doj-to-investigate-palin-email-breach/

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 17, 2008 04:26 PM (wgLRl)

104 Is anyone else terrified by what's happening in politics now? "By any means necessary..." Democracy is in danger of no longer being able to function. I don't know that the hate can ever be healed...Plus the depravity of it all. You want to be an idiot liberal? Fine with me! I'm not going to personally destroy you or wrench your private life into the public. Bu that's the playbook now. We've got crooks in charge of writing tax law, an avowed (at one point) leftist running for president, and we can't get anybody to even pretend like they care. But we've got masses of angry, extreme political partisans trying to outright destroy someone's life and privacy for having the audacity to run against their chosen political candidate. God help us, seriously.

Posted by: Alex at September 17, 2008 04:27 PM (Tr7vq)

105 I have over a thousand unread emails in my account and its only like 2 years old. Granted, most of them are official spam from the mailing lists I'm automatically signed up for through my department, but they're still there.

I have to believe that if Palin was using this for official business, she'd be getting the same kind of worthless "official business" spam that I get.

Posted by: DoDoGuRu at September 17, 2008 04:29 PM (xBkZj)

106 Thanks RWF, and everybody else.

Posted by: Lee at September 17, 2008 04:37 PM (TxTIh)

107 These assholes not only report this but link you to the emails.
I sure hope someone hacks Michelle Obama's personal email.
These guys are worse than what they accuse George Bush of doing.
Way worse. They published them, and the guys who link to them are just as bad.

Posted by: drjohn at September 17, 2008 04:41 PM (KSJNc)

108 I really, really want to see those F%^KSTAINS at Gawker shipped off to Russia.

You want communism so bad?? HERE, take it in spades MOTHERF#%$ERS.

Posted by: Lincoln at September 17, 2008 04:46 PM (gLNLT)

109 Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 03:23 PM (1hSHv)
hahaha, you made me click on that.

Posted by: pajama momma at September 17, 2008 04:53 PM (f3xJa)

110 Above poster Alex is correct. The Left has become utterly unhinged. It's not just this instance, either.
I see various left-wing groups sue everyone here over one thing or another, and when the lefties lose, they insist that they will not "recognize" the authority of the court. I see leftists invade meetings, public events, etc. while throwing food, shouting down speakers, physically attacking spectators, etc.
We saw them again in Denver and Mlps, refusing to obey the cops and now suing everyone for "police brutality", etc.
It's just going to get worse. The left has no respect, NONE whatsoever for our system or the way it works.
It's time to turn the tables. We have got to stand up to these fascists, or we will shortly no longer HAVE a republic to defend.
I have to admit it: I wear a McCain button when shopping in Berkeley! Yes! I get all these old hippies and "hipsters" starting in on me about it, but now I answer back that I don't give a royal fuck for their opinion. The reaction is...interesting.

Posted by: Scott at September 17, 2008 04:54 PM (xnSDW)

111 Democrats live under the bigoted assumption that all Republicans have some horrible secret that will destroy their careerif it is revealed. By pretending to know that secret Democrats can blackmail Republicans into submission.
A similar tactic was used on Clarence Thomas during his confirmation. Democrats, assuming that all black men are sexual predators,brought out Anita Hill hoping just her presence would force Thomas to withdraw his nomination. Thomas refused to back down and Democrats, knowing there was nothing to the allegation, forced Hill to perjure herself in Congress.
They now claim to have Palin's "secret messages" hoping that just saying that will force her to leave the ticket because of some dark secret they assume she must have. Since Palin won't back down it will soon be obvious that this is either a hoax or the greatest assault on a public figure by political emenies in American history.

Posted by: Aaron at September 17, 2008 04:57 PM (NMlyI)

112 this is bad. so very bad.
I heard Limbaugh earlier today; could have sworn I heard a call to action in his monologues.
Obama is endorsing his people's gorilla tactics against free speach.
And now this.
I think the ice is breaking, and I fear the results.

Posted by: blogRot at September 17, 2008 05:06 PM (EKMxC)

113 They are done caught. Most of their pictures show they used a proxy to access the account, but gawker has a pic that shows 2 things.

http://gawker.com/photogallery/palinyahooemail/1003648571?viewSize=thumb800x800

1. The account was access straight to Yahoo servers at one time

2. Thanks to the dumb ass showing his counter strike chat, we know exactly when that time was.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:06 PM (1hSHv)

114 The pictues over at gawker pretty much confirm that two people accessed the account, one with smarts, the other without.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:15 PM (1hSHv)

115 @ Topsecretk9

Check out what at said at post 127.

All the pics at Gawker show a firefox browser, 2 different browsers really. One has no bookmarks and is using a proxy server to access the account. The other has bookmarks toolbar up, and is accessing the yahoo servers directly. The dumbass that accessed the yahoo servers directly actually took a screenshot of a chat he was having over steam (its a video game thing). And that steam chat has an exact date and time of the chat. Brilliant. This cuts Yahoo's work down to nothing (almost).

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:20 PM (1hSHv)

116 @5:06: Yes that gives the guy up. Authorities need to see that image.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 17, 2008 05:21 PM (kYpqT)

117 This has already played out like a bad hacker movie (only the hackers werent doing anything heroic). The scene:

Hacker hacks account.
Hacker brags about it.
Hacker's idiot friend begs him to show proof.
Hacker's ego locks brain in basement.
Hacker gives idiot friend the login info to account.
Idiot friend blows it.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:25 PM (1hSHv)

118 Hey guys, with all the mentions of Anonymous vs. the CoS, I don't suppose it's crossed anyone's mind that the best way for the CoS to turn the full wrath of the government and legal system against their antagonists is to frame them up as attacking a Vice-Presidential candidate?

The CoS has no legal leverage against anonymous for the actions they've taken against the "church" up to this point. Setting Anon up for this would change that equation.

And if you don't think the CoS has either the smarts or the will to do it, I humbly submit that you don't know shit about Scientology.

Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 05:31 PM (xWk3U)

119 @Topsecretk9

It doesnt matter really. Anonymous is like Al Queda. Sure there are major players, but really a lot of the people running around claiming to be AQ are really just wannabes, and AQ doenst mind it because nothing but good comes out of it for them.

The same is with Anonymous. Are there some good(technically) hackers part of it? Sure. But like all groups that dont have standards for admission, even the idiots with no skill are allowed to take the name.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:37 PM (1hSHv)

120 So let me sum up, from a technological dummy trying to follow this:
~ It's real.
~ The dumbass, per the comment at 5:06, left his fingerprints all over it, so both Yahoo, and more importantly the Secret Service, can probably nail this person fairly soon.
~ The Secret Service, even if this is a sophisticated hack, has one of the best cyber sleuthing teams out there, and will probably be able to track the person stupid enough to go after one of their protectees.
~ Nothing incriminating appears to have been found, or the leftie gloating would already have started.
I'm actually sanguine about how this actual episode will tie up. Though the ramifications for our political system as a whole, and the Palin-hate involved, not so much.Especially with Bristols phone number getting out. That's just damn sick.

Posted by: Lee at September 17, 2008 05:37 PM (TxTIh)

121 The hilarious thing about this is that under federal privacy law, gawker and anyone else who posts these pictures can also be found in violation of a crime. Its going to suck when the secret service shows up at this dude's basement door and starts giving him the phone book treatment.

Posted by: BTM at September 17, 2008 05:38 PM (v0dke)

122 @Lee

pretty much, although a couple of points:
1. per my 5:06 comment, there will be no sluething, only data retrieval and breaking out the road map to the morons front door.

2. Remember they said they zipped all the messages, and only released a couple. The shit could still hit the fan on Palin.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:41 PM (1hSHv)

123
2. Remember they said they zipped all the messages, and only released a couple. The shit could still hit the fan on Palin.

How likely is it that they wouldn't release the most incriminating shit they found first?

Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 05:42 PM (xWk3U)

124 Well, I was sanguine.

Posted by: Lee at September 17, 2008 05:44 PM (TxTIh)

125 @apotheosis

these were probably teenagers. So I would put my bets on that A) they dont know what to look for B) they dont have the attention span to actually go through all of them.

I think they were teens for two reasons 1. How stupid the friend was that accessed the server directly. 2. Who ever has the zip, was too scared to post the whole thing. The last thing they wanted was the FBI banging on mom's front door.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:46 PM (1hSHv)

126 Also, i would save the images at gawker, who knows how long they will be up. And the last thing you want is Gawker claiming they no longer have them.

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:48 PM (1hSHv)

127 "Honey, why is the Secret Service at the front door?"

Posted by: Lee at September 17, 2008 05:48 PM (TxTIh)

128 I can't download the Gawker images. I wanna see if there is any EXIF metadata in the jpegs.
Can anyone get them? IE insists on converting the filesto bitmaps.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 17, 2008 05:50 PM (kYpqT)

129 @Molon Labe

I have the one that matters (i linked above). Nothing special in the EXIF. Made by a program named plasq skitch. My IE downloaded thme fine, although I am now using Opera (which I highly recommend)

Posted by: RiteWingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:54 PM (1hSHv)

130 Striking petition signatures, unsealing divorce records, hacking open e-mail accounts. Who says you can't get ahead in America?

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at September 17, 2008 05:55 PM (MMC8r)

131 Who ever has the zip, was too scared to post the whole thing. The last
thing they wanted was the FBI banging on mom's front door.

I'd credit them with sense enough to recognize that threat if they hadn't already goofed up by hitting yahood without a proxy, timestamping it with the CS window, and screenshotting the whole thing.

For what it's worth, I recall seeing an animated GIF a while back some chantard created showing how to embed a RAR in a JPG image. A RAR archive of a bunch of text messages would be trivially small.

So whoever has those JPGs, try opening them in WinRAR and see what happens.

Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 06:05 PM (xWk3U)

132 Addendum: here's that animated GIF.

http://pics.ohlawd.net/___/embed%20rar%20into%20jpeg.gif

Lots of other b-tard goodness in that folder, if there's any question about the source.

http://pics.ohlawd.net/___/

Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 06:08 PM (xWk3U)

133 One of the links stated that they had posted pics of her kids, too.

If they're underaged kids, isn't that highly illegal?

Posted by: mpur at September 17, 2008 06:13 PM (Awx7m)

134 /b/, for the most part, thinks the whole thing is fail, since it was a sloppy hack and it accomplished nothing.

http://___.4chan.org/b/res/85818245.html (NSFW, noodz)

"9/17/08
the day kos kids used /b/ for their personal army"

Posted by: khavvah at September 17, 2008 06:13 PM (ygoqi)

135 Oh wow, Drudge just woke up from his multi-hour siesta and mentioned this story. How nice. Still waiting for him posting this week's Monday Night Football game story so I can find out if the Eagles won. Hope they did.

Posted by: Frank at September 17, 2008 06:22 PM (ky4yv)

136 n/m, it just got deleted

Posted by: khavvah at September 17, 2008 06:54 PM (ygoqi)

137 Anonymous is not a group of hackers - it's a leaderless collective of like-minded individuals, from all walks of life.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 17, 2008 08:45 PM (PGLet)

138 it's a leaderless collective of likeweak-minded individuals

FTFY

Posted by: toby928 at September 17, 2008 09:23 PM (evdj2)

139 Damn, and I actually enjoyed reading IO9, too.

One less bookmark. Fuck you, gawker.

Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 10:11 PM (xWk3U)

140 And read the shit comments at CNN if you can stomach themvia Topsecret9's link.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 17, 2008 11:53 PM (oFuWo)

141 Could a yahoo tech leak a password?

Passwords are not actually stored on the servers at all, whatever password you enter is one-way hashed with your name, which returns a unique hash value. Yahoo stores the hash value and compares it with the hash value your logon created. If they match, then you have entered the correct information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_hash_function

Posted by: cheshirecat at September 18, 2008 02:48 AM (snPn7)

142 You can no more blame this on Anonymous than you can blame it on atheists or white people. Anonymous are simply that wide and that size of a group. Just as many support shutting up and letting the world get on with its own business.

Whilst I dont condone the act, that email account wasnt 'hacked'. First of all, the email address in question was a YAHOO email account, yahoo being notorious for having next to no security measures, and secondly all the 'hacker' did was guess her security question, to retrieve her password, which she set as her zip code. That is the internet equivilent of leaving your house-key under your welcome mat and then being all shocked when you get burgled, or leaving your car-keys in the ignition and walking away, then being shocked when someone steals your car. Whilst the act was obviously underhanded, if it wasnt this person, it would be someone else. If you pay no attention to security, it will happen.

Anonymous as a group has nothing to do with this, but they were simply the first to laugh at it, as the supposed 'hacker' showed off trophy screenshots there first. You will also realise that the email account was shut down very fast. Didn't it occur to anyone that it was an anonymous member who reported it as overtaken?

But lets not allow facts get in the way of setting up a scapegoat, shall we?
~Some Internet Surfer

Posted by: Some Surfer at September 18, 2008 01:45 PM (lR3/q)

143 > that email account wasnt 'hacked'. First of all, the email address in question was a YAHOO email account, yahoo being notorious for having next to no security measures, and secondly all the 'hacker' did was guess her security question, to retrieve her password, which she set as her zip code.
Wow.
Via Google. Definitions of Hacking on the Web:

Unauthorized use, or attempts to circumvent or bypass the security mechanisms of an information system or network.www.tsl.state.tx.us/ld/pubs/compsecurity/glossary.html
Accessing illegally or without authorization computers, accounts, equipment or networks belonging to another party, or attempting to penetrate security measures of another system. ...www.searcycafe.com/wifiaup.php
Hacking means illegally accessing other people's computer systems for destroying, disrupting or carrying out illegal activities on the network or computer systems.www.infosec.gov.hk/english/general/glossary_gj.htm
This term is used to indicate breaking into computers or computer networks by avoiding safety measures. Persons who perform the act of hacking, are called hackers.english.mediadesign.nl/helpdesk/glossary/
The US Dept. of Justice defines Hacking as “All illegal access to a computer or a network”.www.root777.com/computer-security/important-computer-security-terms-and-terminology/
involves invading someone else's computer, usually for personal gain or just the satisfaction of being able to invade someone else's computer. Hackers are usually computer experts who enjoy having the power to invade someone else's privacy.www.mrschang.com/vocabulary/
or perpetration of any security breach.www.thephs.com/terms.htm
But let's not allow facts get in the way.

You may not know what 'hacking' means, but you sure are a hack.

Posted by: MDH3 at September 18, 2008 02:49 PM (CZcCo)

144 It was probably 7chan that had done it. The 4channers maybe, but 7channers are more prone to do such.

And c'mon, it was bound to happen one way or another.

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