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Charlie Gibson was a tool. I wanted to slap his nose-glasses off his face.
Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 07:06 PM (ubHgw) 2
Any chance we can get a link to the video at some point?
Posted by: BTM at September 11, 2008 07:06 PM (v0dke) 3
Was it just me, or was the video edited by the Audiovisual Club at Cornhole High School? It came across patchy as hell.
Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 07:08 PM (ubHgw) 4
I think she came out of it pretty well, despite the fairly rough nature of the interview. I don't think that it was a "Grand Slam," though.
Posted by: tomthebaker at September 11, 2008 07:09 PM (IVMdm) 5
It does look like they backed off of the "exact words" thing, anyway, even including the You Tube clip of her statement at the church.
Posted by: kteemac at September 11, 2008 07:10 PM (pLTLS) 6
Is that the same "interview voice" he uses all the time? If so, someone should point out that talking low and slow does nothing to make you look more intelligent.
Posted by: Nekulturny at September 11, 2008 07:11 PM (H0d4l) 7
I'd be interested to see the stuff they edited out. I'm sorry but journalists are basically untrustworthy. They can't help themselves.
Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 07:12 PM (1g+FW) 8
Andi threatened Charlie that if he did go in the tank with the interview, he wouldn't allow Charlie to be his buttboy.
Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 11, 2008 07:12 PM (EnHNG) 9
She nailed it for me with this comment:
Our rights are God Given. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Got that not a government mandate, not something that can be taken away. Posted by: unseen at September 11, 2008 07:13 PM (aVGmX) 10
I'm sorry but journalists are basically untrustworthy. They can't help themselves.
Some are not...for example, I think Brit Hume is pretty scrupulously fair. Or have I drunk Fox News Koolaid? Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 07:13 PM (ubHgw) 11
Yeah, I liked how they chose to edit her in mid-word.
Posted by: Joanie at September 11, 2008 07:16 PM (Yyy1m) 12
People that are fair are anti-journalists. Some of them just happen to be employed in the media. The term journalism has become synonymous with dshonesty. I'm sorry it has, but it has.
Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 07:16 PM (1g+FW) 13
Did Gibson ask her about McSame's addiction to Ambien?
Was Pontius Palin asked why she cut funding for teen pregnancies and for the disabled? Any questions about Palin's involvement in Big Oil? Creationism? Dinosaurs? Jews? Posted by: stupid typical fucking moonbat at September 11, 2008 07:17 PM (4W3RG) 14
ABC News homepage
feedback contact us Charles Gibson and ABC News owe Gov. Palin and America an apology for falsely attributing your news organization's own fabrications as her quotes in order to misreport her position on America in war that aligns perfectly with Abraham Lincoln's, being Lincoln's own statement. There is a reason that Congressional ratings aren't worth spit, and a reason why America no longer trusts massive media sources including ABC News. DISHONESTY! Thanks to immediately correct ABC News errors on record. Posted by: maverick muse at September 11, 2008 07:18 PM (F1b/5) 15
Every Republican who does an interview should insist on getting a raw transcript of the source of any of their "exact words" that are quoted back at them, and make their own video of the full interview to post, unedited, to expose the lying bastards in the press.
Posted by: bgates at September 11, 2008 07:18 PM (CFjXn) 16
Gibson isn't that bad. He isn't out to get people just because they are Republicans. He hasn't drank a whole lot of the koolaid. He's no winger, by any stretch, but he's not an Olberman either.
Posted by: XBradTC at September 11, 2008 07:18 PM (GIPhT) 17
Shut the fuck up, Gibson. She's not going to say outright that we should cross the border into Pakistan.
Posted by: Adam R. at September 11, 2008 07:19 PM (fWeGD) 18
I saw both segments. The first was kinda shaky, and she was not as convincing
as I'd hoped she'd be. Gibson was tough, but the questions were fair.
The second segment was much better. They had a video of her speaking in church, and it gave the full context of her words, which she clarified for Gibson. She is much better when she talks about subjects close to her heart. Posted by: lmg at September 11, 2008 07:19 PM (A/vgC) 19
I wonder if Charlie tried to get samples of her DNA to send to Andi.
Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 07:21 PM (ubHgw) 20
(matt damon?)
Posted by: Matt Damon at September 11, 2008 07:21 PM (uOvAE) 21
I would say that today was a solid single or maybe even a double. Palin definitely didn't harm herself and I think she bolstered her credentials.
I view it as there are now a couple of people on base after this for the interviews tomorrow where she has a chance to knock in a few more runners for 1 or 2 more points in the poll. The interview slightly changes the race for the better if it even changes anything at all. Gibson is still a condescending jerk though. Posted by: David at September 11, 2008 07:22 PM (HAdov) 22
PALIN DECLARES WAR ON RUSSIA!!
Good, I been wanting to kick those bastards' asses since I was stationed in Germany from 1985 to 1991. Posted by: TRO at September 11, 2008 07:24 PM (q4WFG) 23
I think she came out of it pretty well, despite the fairly rough nature
of the interview. I don't think that it was a "Grand Slam," though.
It didn't need to be a Grand Slam, mainly thanks to the MSM itself. They've spent so much time making Palin out to be some sort of ignorant lunatic, that all she had to do was be composed and not melt down on camera in order to impress the general public. In short, she did fine. The left (who are already out to get her) will cherry pick a few things here and there to continue their campaign of self-inflicted hysteria; those of us over here on the sane side will nitpick a line or two that she could have done better; and everyone in the mushy middle will see it and think "Hey, she seemed like a rational human being to me. They were telling me she was a monster!" To the extent the mushy middle is watching at all, of course. These days, what does World News get in terms of viewers, three or four million people? And most of them are either old and set in their ways (straight-ticket types) or news junkies who also already know who they're going to vote for. Our reactions don't much matter. Like I said, all she had to to was show up and not collapse in a puddle of tears at Gibson's questioning, and she wins by default. Posted by: RajivVindaloo at September 11, 2008 07:24 PM (Rn2+D) 24
Cornhole High School. I think my brother wrestled there.
Posted by: mare at September 11, 2008 07:25 PM (xMkst) 25
I haven't seen it yet, I'm waiting on the whole thing, but I'd like to see elaboration on the Georgia thing. Is she saying, "Georgia ought to be in NATO, so that we can protect them by going to war with Russia if needed?" Or is it, "If Georgia IS in NATO, we are in fact obligated to go to war" (true), and thus (unspoken).... let's be wary about putting Georgia and friends in NATO? Anyone shed any light on which? I'm kinda hoping on the latter. Posted by: Andrew X at September 11, 2008 07:25 PM (ne9bG) 26
I'm sorry to say that I thought that she seemed a bit too agressive which I believe is a function of her wanting to appear to be a strong woman. Disappointed a bit. Not terrible but she gave the "bad guys" some ammo.
Posted by: Glum at September 11, 2008 07:25 PM (7iAzE) 27
Not her usual "she is just too good to be true" performance, but competent and confident. Her back-and-forth on the Bush Doctrine question was good, as it was clearly a trap question - either agree with Bush or come off seeming like you don't know enough.
Definitely not a softball interview. He kept coming back for the kind of specifics that no world leader would provide "exactly what would you do" or "is it our right" type things. She answered fine, but would be better off being a bit more aggressive in the reply, including pointing out that being overly specific on a hypothetical can be interpreted as a sort of threat and that's the kind of thing we need to avoid. Posted by: Vern at September 11, 2008 07:26 PM (5tcj3) 28
They will probably air the worst stuff first since that will be the most watched.
Posted by: asl at September 11, 2008 07:26 PM (r11nM) 29
Charlie said Georgia might be joining NATO and then we would have to defend them and asked if that was okay. She basically said that was the deal if you were a member of NATO I think.
Posted by: TRO at September 11, 2008 07:26 PM (q4WFG) 30
Ouch, going to Cornhole high is bad enough, wrestling there??? Fuck that shit, I wonder if they serve tossed salad?
Posted by: BTM at September 11, 2008 07:27 PM (v0dke) 31
Is it just me or is Charlie Gibson a complete ASSHOLE.
What the freak is up with the bad edits???? Charlie is acting like he is LOWERING himself to speak with her. I used to like him. He makes me SICK. He never laid a glove on her. So far.
Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at September 11, 2008 07:28 PM (NrzzM) 32
Video cameras are cheap. Every Republican who is interviewed should have a camera on a tripod taking in the whole scene.
That way, there is unedited footage available to refute any misrepresentations by journalists. Posted by: Evil Pundit at September 11, 2008 07:28 PM (//eLA) 33
I think Charlie might have been more respectful if the McCain campaign had insisted that Driller be in the room at all times, just out of view of the camera.
Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 07:28 PM (ubHgw) 34
Oh my bad. It was my local station editing the commercials.
Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at September 11, 2008 07:29 PM (NrzzM) Posted by: Mike at September 11, 2008 07:32 PM (b2pBk) 36
I thought she was a tad shaky in the first segment, too. She didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was, which bothered me a little.
Our ABC channel went off air in the middle of the hurricane segment, so I didn't see the second part. That timing was kind of weird. I was starting to have conspiracy thoughts, but apparently our tv problems were only at the local level. Posted by: stace at September 11, 2008 07:32 PM (JO0c/) 37
Charlie Gibson. What a condescending jerk. We just had illustrated for us the difference between an elitist journalism and a real person who loves and respects their country.
Posted by: gbs at September 11, 2008 07:33 PM (ZH503) 38
Her back-and-forth on the Bush Doctrine question was good, as it was
clearly a trap question - either agree with Bush or come off seeming
like you don't know enough.
On this point, I have to disagree, at least a bit. It was unquestionably a trap. The problem is that the trap wasn't whether she agrees with it or not, so much as a demand to know "What IS the Bush Doctrine, Ms. Palin? Can you answer that question?" And it was asked in the manner of an arrogant high-school teacher who was just in the mood to embarrass a student he didn't like in front of the entire class. And she didn't actually answer that question. Whether she was weaving and bobbing to avoid being pinned into a corner on whether she agrees with it or not, or actually DIDN'T know, I can't say. But mark my words: That's one of the main spin points the Obamatons are going to focus on over the next news cycle: "Palin couldn't define the Bush Doctrine! Unfit for office!" Posted by: RajivVindaloo at September 11, 2008 07:35 PM (Rn2+D) 39
I'm sure when they interview Obama they will ask him if he believes in socialism for our country with this EXACT quote: This is the moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets have created, and share its benefits more equitably. Trade has been a cornerstone of our growth and global development. But we will not be able to sustain this growth if it favors the few, and not the many" Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at September 11, 2008 07:35 PM (NrzzM) 40
Gibson WAS being an asshole, but he also has a lot of pressure on him from the left to not be perceived as going easy on her.
Posted by: stace at September 11, 2008 07:35 PM (JO0c/) 41
Bush doesn't even adhere to the Bush Doctrine these days, so that question was a semi-gotcha. She handled it well, however.
There is more to come on Nightline tonight (11:30pm), more at 6:30pm Friday, and a special program, I forget when. Keep in mind: Even Olympic athletes sometimes fall short, but they don't quit. They get up and try harder. Posted by: lmg at September 11, 2008 07:35 PM (A/vgC) 42
Hmmmm. Answering my own #25. Palin does say Georgia and Ukraine should be in NATO, and that, yes we would be obligated to defend them if so. The latter is obvious. I have to disagree on the former. Unless our European allies are prepared to DOUBLE their defense spending, and act like they are willing to defend Western Civilization, which at this point I put up there with me meeting the tooth fairy on a probablility scale, we have ZERO business expanding NATO at all, and a reasonable argument for scaling it back or scrapping it entirely. The only thing worse than an unguarded flank is a flank that is guarded by someone who swears you are secure there, I promise, promise.......and then will fold like wet cardboard or even turn around and make a deal with the adversary. Europe does not have the will to fight, certainly not in any global or civilizational sense, and as long as they don't, whatever military they DO have is as good as useless. So I must disagree with m'learned gentle-lady from Alaska that front.
Posted by: Andrew X at September 11, 2008 07:36 PM (ne9bG) 43
Saw part of it. I found it annoying she kept calling him Charlie. I thought she was clever how she didn't say YES, I'LL INVADE PAKISTAN, but said it indirectly. Of course the libs will argue she didn't 'get' the question that's why she didn't answer it.
Let's see what she DIDN'T DO: - refer to McCain as the Vice-Presdient. - misstate her faith and need to be corrected by Gibson - say Romney probably would have been a better pick etc. Posted by: liontooth at September 11, 2008 07:36 PM (n3pxb) Posted by: roger rainey at September 11, 2008 07:38 PM (oKTeU) 45
So, Glum says "too aggressive," and Vern says "Not aggressive enough."
I didn't see it, but that's probably a good sign that she was about right. Posted by: notropis at September 11, 2008 07:38 PM (briex) 46
Or maybe they will ask Obama how he expects to do this (EXACT QUOTE) This is the moment when we must come together to save this planet. Let us resolve that we will not leave our children a world where the oceans rise and famine spreads and terrible storms devastate our lands." Because that just makes perfect sense. Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at September 11, 2008 07:38 PM (NrzzM) 47
It's funny: some here say she was too aggressive, others say she was not aggressive enough... It means she was just fine: she just needed to show independents or conservative Democrats that she is not an idiot. And it was more than enough.
Posted by: oy at September 11, 2008 07:38 PM (KAuuY) 48
She didn't hurt herself, and she came across as someone who is competent to be Veep. You knew Gibson would hit her with some tough questions and she didn't flinch or hem and haw. Good interview, good first unscripted appearence.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 11, 2008 07:39 PM (4ZOxD) 49
She held her own. The ABC news teaser about her ready push the button on Russia was out right dumb though.
Posted by: chris at September 11, 2008 07:40 PM (JoYgh) 50
Relax. She did fine. Gibson sounded like a jerk, and worse his mangling of her prayer makes him look not only unfair but anti-religion as well. This will play well for Palin...for ABC, not so much.
Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 07:41 PM (1g+FW) 51
Unless our European allies are prepared to DOUBLE their defense
spending, and act like they are willing to defend Western Civilization,
which at this point I put up there with me meeting the tooth fairy on a
probablility scale, we have ZERO business expanding NATO at all, and a
reasonable argument for scaling it back or scrapping it entirely.
Amen, Andrew, amen. Really, what is the point of NATO now? The fucks won't even fight in Afghanistan. We ought to pull out of it, and the UN, too. The only way to get the Euroweenies to step up and defend themselves is to pull them off our tit. Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 07:42 PM (ubHgw) 52
To prevent war, be strong. That, in essence, is NATO article 5.
If liberals weren't suck fucking morons, they'd realize, "I'm not sure," to the question of what would you do if Russia attacks a NATO country increases the odds of them doing so. NATO means what is says and if you attack 1 NATO country, you attack all, is likely to prevent war. Russia doesn't want to take on all of NATO. The best they could do barring some type of first strike masterstroke (which is why we must maintain the ability to have a strong second strike capability) is fight to a horrible draw. And Russia knows that. They also know they could lose, big time, even if they caused some NATO countries to lose also, there may be countries who make it through hostilities in a better position than Russia. Posted by: Christoph at September 11, 2008 07:42 PM (hawOV) 53
I don't get this whole thing. Just the other day, Jonathan Alter said that they'd be keeping Sarah silent, and allowing no media access, until sometime after the VP debate, and it was the job of the media, and the public, to DEMAND that the press be given access to her.
Evidently the media, and the public, did their job. (Or else Jonathan Alter was talking out of his cornhole.) Posted by: notropis at September 11, 2008 07:42 PM (briex) 54
This is basically an attempt to start a whisper campaign.
I think the public is smart enough to say, "I'll want to hear what she says exactly for myself." Posted by: Tom at September 11, 2008 07:42 PM (/PwQS) Posted by: Gen. George S. Patton III at September 11, 2008 07:43 PM (oo12K) 56
Since when is "pre-emptive strikes before a threat becomes imminent" the Bush Doctrine? It's not like the US has been shy about saber-rattling and military action the past 100 years. Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 11, 2008 07:45 PM (4ZOxD) 57
I'll be glad when Sarah gets the experience to be able to sneer back at the journalists. Maggie Thatcher was brilliant at that, and I'm sure Sarah will get the knack for it. Even Bush learned how to stick the knife into journalists with a smile on his face, and he's always been only half-competent in interviews.
Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 07:48 PM (ubHgw) 58
Matt Damon!!11!!
Posted by: Peter at September 11, 2008 07:50 PM (URtvs) 59
Bill O'Reilly was nicer to Obama than Gibson was to Sarah. Charlie just lost a LOT of female fans. Much like Oprah.
Posted by: TRO at September 11, 2008 07:50 PM (q4WFG) 60
I figured it would be a tough interview but I was totally taken back by Charlie Gibson's smug, snotty, attitude. It was like she had interrupted something important he was doing and he was being forced to interview her. Like it was sooo below him. I actually thought he was a pretty good anchor before, but I just think he's a jerk now. Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at September 11, 2008 07:50 PM (NrzzM) Posted by: Cathy at September 11, 2008 07:52 PM (I7zei) 62
This is another one that's going to bounce back in the Obamabots' faces; the fact is that she's absolutely right about the Russia/NATO thing, even Obama understands that.
If they want to make something out of it they're going to look like fools. Posted by: mrkwong at September 11, 2008 07:53 PM (G8Eo0) 63
These sucker of the cock journalists should lobby to have a new set of Miranda rights put into the Fifth Amendment, so that before being interviewed/interrogated he or she (conservatives) must be told of their new Fifth Amendment right. 'You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.' Posted by: BabaChewy at September 11, 2008 07:53 PM (UUwxQ) 64
I thought she did well. I wonder what the etiquette is for telling an interviewer that his question is insipid. Seriously. When Mr. Gobson asked whether she would approve incursions into Waziristan, what could any candidate say other than "what are the facts supporting such an incursion?" Waziristan is essentially a locally governed, autonomous region with no real ties to the Pakistani government. What is she supposed to say? "I'll approve such incursions in any situation"? "I'll never approve such incursions no matter what." Both would sound stupid but Gibson didn't provide any detail in his question that would allow a serious yes or no answer. Anyone here who's an attorney knows how this game is played in depositions. The attorney conducting the deposition asks some broad question that could go any of a hundred ways depending upon unstated hypothetical facts and then laments that he's not receiving direct, detailed answers. Kinda sad. O'Reilly actually does a much better job because he allows a flow to develop between him and the interviewee.
Posted by: A Reasonable Man at September 11, 2008 07:55 PM (9l3B6) 65
Oooh, time for the 9/11 Presidential Forum! Pull the starter cord on the Obama Gaffe Machine!
Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 07:56 PM (ubHgw) 66
Palin did a pretty solid job. Not perfect, but definitely not craptacular. I'm somewhat interested in seeing the rest (even though I can barely drag myself to watch ABC News and it won't change my mind either way).
As for Gibson, I'm disappointed. He had gained so many cool points with me back in April 2004 when he got Kerry all hot and bothered about about his Congressional testimony during Vietnam (the Jenjis Khan bit). Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 11, 2008 07:57 PM (UsvyG) 67
I'll be more interested to know Matt Damon's analysis of the interview.
Posted by: Jajos, FL at September 11, 2008 08:02 PM (9v34C) 68
"Palin couldn't define the Bush Doctrine! Unfit for office!"
How will that play out for their "Bush-lipstick-meme"? Oh, I'm don't doubt they're going to do it, and repeat both of them one right after the other. Also, since I haven't seen it other than the preview clips did they keep the same camera angle as the preview clips? If so, it's a camera trick to dehumanize her. Hell, even criminals get a better camera angle from Dateline. Posted by: Editor at September 11, 2008 08:03 PM (GTpOW) 69
Gibson used a teleprompter. Sarah didn't. Gibson should have nothing more than the notes in his lap.
Posted by: 2Am4Sure at September 11, 2008 08:05 PM (Bk6kx) Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 11, 2008 08:06 PM (UsvyG) 71
#64
In a deposition, questioners can ask just about anything they want and the witness pretty much has to respond. Their counsel can object for the record, but generally the witness must respond. In court it is a different matter. The witness can be directed to not answer a question if counsel objects and that objection is sustained. Posted by: BTM at September 11, 2008 08:09 PM (v0dke) 72
I'll be more interested to know Matt Damon's analysis of the interview.
Thanks, Jajos. Quite frankly, I've rather disapointed in the lack of posting about Matt lately. Posted by: Max Power at September 11, 2008 08:11 PM (q177U) 73
Yeah, when I saw the editing on the interview, I immediately thought "So Star Wars Kid eventually found a real job after all!"
Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 08:11 PM (ubHgw) 74
I heard Matt Damon suddenly had to fly out of the country for some kind of cultural festival going on in Pyongyang.
Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 08:12 PM (ubHgw) 75
Is a transcript available? Because like others, I don't trust ABC to present the interview without creative editing.
Posted by: Michael Moore at September 11, 2008 08:13 PM (VkNlv) 76
Sorry I should have changed my sock puppet mon iker
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 11, 2008 08:14 PM (VkNlv) 77
A You-tube side by side comparison of questions Gibson asked to Obama and to Palin would be hilarious.
Just use video of Gibson’s questions and enough of a head shot establishing Obama or Palin. Say 10 sec. or so between the comparison.
Imagine the difference in tone and style in how Gibson addressed each. Be even better if he asked each questions about somehow related topics.
Hilarious. Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 11, 2008 08:15 PM (8nB5X) 78
She pointed her finger too much and leaned forwrad too much. Not relaxed. Her hair was a bad choice (yes, really) and that brown outfit. Who is picking these clothes? And, yes, they matter. You are selling the whole candidate, not just some legs and some glasses. As much as that might excite the morons here.
Posted by: kat-missouri at September 11, 2008 08:16 PM (YLs4U) 79
I'm listening to bits and pieces of it on the radio. It's obnoxious with Gibson asks her a question and she answers it and he asks the same question again and she gives the same answer and he slightly rephrases it and asks it a third time and she gives the same answer.This was the question about whether she thought she was prepared fo the job.
Also brought out is the fact that no one from the meda or left is attakcing Cohen for his stupid remarks and another congresscritter for a similar God is on our side reference. I don't know why people including some of you morons,call Obama a great orator.I don't know why anyone calls his brillant. He can't think straight nor consistently or articualte what the hell his position is most of the time. Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 11, 2008 08:16 PM (EnHNG) 80
I thought she looked serious and determined and that the thing was shot from some of the most awkward and unflattering angles they could come up with.
And I thought she did better than alright. Posted by: Thea at September 11, 2008 08:17 PM (N0hv7) 81
What I really want to know is when Driller is going to appear on The View or Ellen Degeneris, like the spouses of the other candidates.
Actually I think they're afraid Driller is so manly that he will turn Ellen straight again, and impregnate all of the women in the studio audience solely with his testosterone-rich aura. Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 08:17 PM (ubHgw) Posted by: Sue at September 11, 2008 08:17 PM (+osns) 83
Why always the commiemedia interviews. Why are republicans afraid to let a Brit Hume interview them? Always defensive.
Posted by: Iwaseatingablockofcheesethesizeofacarbattery at September 11, 2008 08:22 PM (GGhvX) 84
Why are republicans afraid to let a Brit Hume interview them?
Yeah, exactly. Embargo the motherfuckers and shut them out until they play fair. I think pretty much every market has a Fox affiliate now, give them the ratings. Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 08:24 PM (ubHgw) 85
"Bush Doctrine" is one of the most-used phrases on Twitted this hour. It's coming.
Posted by: RajivVindaloo at September 11, 2008 08:25 PM (Rn2+D) 86
I didn't know it was called the Bush doctrine. I call it we will do what we need to do to protect ourselves no matter what it is. It is bullshit for Gibson to keep asking her the same question over and over again when she answered it. I know he wanted a yes and no answer but tough. The answer she gave was clear enough. For her to claim he was lost in her "blizzard of words" was assholish.
Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 11, 2008 08:28 PM (EnHNG) 87
Editor,
Does shitty editing count (apparently done at Cornhole High School as mentioned above)? Um, they give out fucking Academy Awards for editing. Even if you and I for some reason wouldn't think editing mattered these douches do, so, yeah, it counts. Posted by: Editor at September 11, 2008 08:37 PM (p4YSL) 88
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"What I really want to know is when Driller is going to appear on The
View or Ellen Degeneris, like the spouses of the other candidates."
She would kill the View gals...but to be honest I think Ellen would actually give her a fair shake. Posted by: mlong at September 11, 2008 08:42 PM (jujAf) 89
"Was Pontius Palin asked why she cut funding for teen pregnancies and for the disabled?"
She didn't. She increased it. Posted by: ggg at September 11, 2008 08:47 PM (5ex5R) 90
Gawd - I just saw the short cut @ HotAir and if that's the editing it's complete douchery bullshit. I mean, there hasn't been anything edited that bad on network news for along time.
With that said, I have not doubt the longer programs will be better for her. Could be that Charlie's getting the douchery out early to appease his Disney bosses. Posted by: Editor at September 11, 2008 08:48 PM (p4YSL) 91
"What I really want to know is when Driller is going to appear on The
View or Ellen Degeneris, like the spouses of the other candidates."
She would kill the View gals...but to be honest I think Ellen would actually give her a fair shake. Oh, by "Driller" I meant Todd Palin - that's his Secret Service codename. Posted by: Jim62sch at September 11, 2008 08:52 PM (ubHgw) 92
That said, it’s pretty clear she doesn’t know what he means by the Bush Doctrine
and can’t answer the Pakistan question in anything but platitudes about
stopping Islamic extremism. Even the gimme about the 9/11 hijackers’
motivations comes out garbled: She’s trying to make the basic neocon
point that terrorism is a problem caused by political repression and
solved by democracy, but it sounds as if she’s trying to patch it
together from mental index cards, which … may in fact be what she was
doing. Or maybe she was just nervous. Or thrown by Gibson’s demeanor.
Not good, whichever it is, but 99% of the people who love her won’t
care and the 1% who do can probably be brought around with a good
interview tomorrow and, especially, a good debate with Biden. Now, tell
me how brilliant she was and how wrong I am.
Lulz, I am a faggot. Posted by: Allahpundit at September 11, 2008 08:54 PM (g/h9/) 93
I touch myself and watch Kirsten Powers.
Posted by: Allahpundit at September 11, 2008 08:55 PM (g/h9/) 94
I didn't know it was called the Bush doctrine. And it's not completely clear what the Bush doctrine is - is it that we'll treat terrorist-harboring states as terrorists themselves or that we'll pre-emptively attacks states based on their threat even it's not imminent? And it's not even like the Bush administration follows either one consistently. Posted by: Maetenloch at September 11, 2008 09:00 PM (YpjDu) 95
I think Charlie Gibson was giving Obama a foot rub during that interview. His tone sounded like he was interviewing his grandmother for her 50th wedding aniversary video and he let Obama tap dance around every question. Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 11, 2008 09:03 PM (4ZOxD) 96
What was Sarah Palin supposed to say about Russia attacking a NATO member? "Well as you know, for about sixty years we have an agreement with fellow members to defend them should they be attacked, but if things get a bit hairy I think we should keep in mind that the agreement is just a piece of paper." All the woman did was indicate that we would keep our word.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 11, 2008 09:08 PM (gBOu4) 97
In a deposition the objection to the Pakistan and other questions is to the form of the question. In other words, the question is deliberately phrased in a way to be ambiguous and difficult to answser (like-when did you stop beating your wife?).
Posted by: bruin at September 11, 2008 09:08 PM (r7Cox) 98
This Bush Doctrine crap is inside baseball- only partisan dorks are gonna get their panties in a twist if she didn't nail it. Besides, there's gonna be a McCain doctrine if he wins. No bad mistakes= no news, but the grinding down of Barry will proceed. Posted by: jjshaka at September 11, 2008 09:09 PM (rNt0b) 99
Did Gibson ask her about McSame's addiction to Ambien? No, but maybe because the stuff you listed - especially the creationism, dinosaurs, and Jews - has already been dealt with and considered to be nonsense. Catch up!!
Posted by: Joe at September 11, 2008 09:11 PM (8nB5X) 100
I wonder what the etiquette is for telling an interviewer that his question is insipid. Seriously. "I'm sorry, I don't know how to answer that question; it's too stupid." Anyone here who's an attorney knows how this game is played in
depositions. The attorney conducting the deposition asks some broad
question that could go any of a hundred ways depending upon unstated
hypothetical facts and then laments that he's not receiving direct,
detailed answers. Posted by: Alex at September 11, 2008 09:13 PM (fgyj8) 101
"I don't get this whole thing. Just the other day, Jonathan Alter said that they'd be keeping Sarah silent, and allowing no media access, until sometime after the VP debate, and it was the job of the media, and the public, to DEMAND that the press be given access to her.
No. This interview was scheduled last week. Posted by: Joe at September 11, 2008 09:31 PM (8nB5X) Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 11, 2008 09:32 PM (8nB5X) 103
Beating a dead horse here but . . .
ABC and Charlie Gibson are going to come off as asses. Charlie was condescending and the editing sucked and no doubt her unedited answer that will ultimately make the net will be very favorable to her. She came off well. Not great, but good. She will get better. There is not there here. No minds were changed and since McPalin is in the lead that is a good thing. In fact, it may be great because the media will look even more liberal when objective people see how Charlie acted over and over again. I say this was a big point for the good guys. Posted by: TRO at September 11, 2008 09:33 PM (q4WFG) 104
There are many ways to Depth Charge an interview. Use totally inappropriate lighting, such as masculine vs. feminine lighting, use awkward camera angles, which enhance/distort masculine vs. feminine posing. Any decent photographer will know what I am talking about. Throw in soft focus vs. enhanced/cranked up digital sharpness image will make anyone look bad. There is ALOT of digital manipulation that can be done in Real Time to sabotage a visual or audio. If Charlie Gibson used a teleprompter he is a fucking punk.
I LOVE the idea posted by Posted by: ArandomPerson comment #77 "A You-tube side by side comparison of questions Gibson asked to Obama and to Palin would be hilarious" One problem though, Barry Sotero oops, Barack Hussein Obama would have to grow a pair before he agreed to something like this. p.s. Does anybody know what Barry Sotero's middle name was? Posted by: sirsurfalot at September 11, 2008 09:36 PM (Czvjx) 105
It's not so much that you're wrong, Allah its just you'd rather be popular among the coffee-house Manhattan journalist crowd than trust your own eyes. I'm sorry, but you can be trusted to spout the MSM talking points on any particular issue no matter how ridiculous it is and no matter how ridiculous it makes you look. Thus the postion you took on Basra, thus the postion you took on Sadr being the ruler of Iraq defacto and the postion you took on the Fred Thompson fire-hat deal just to name three. Palin didn't show any ignorance on any of those subjects nor any lack of understanding of any of the subjects she was asked about.. If you'll get the MSM out of you ears and watch the tapes using your own judgement instead of theirs you'll do better. Sorry, to be a jerk, but you asked.
Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 09:38 PM (1g+FW) 106
Did Trollbuster just hit the Moon God? Whoa.
Posted by: someone at September 11, 2008 09:44 PM (2z2WN) 107
The lefties may have gotten what they somewhat wanted, but it's going to come at a price.
Whoever from the McCain campaign agreed to let Charlie Gibson do the first major interview was a dumbshit who needs to be backhanded. The first interview ALWAYS goes to Brit Hume. Posted by: Zettai Zettai at September 11, 2008 09:44 PM (Z9IOH) 108
Thought Govenor Palin did fine, not great but good enough. Some of the questions were fair but that one, "Have you ever met any foreign leaders?" was crap. He just wanted to point out that she hadn't met any of the high-minded, sophistocrats that rightly run the world.
Wish she had said, "No, thank god I haven't had to endure that yet!" Posted by: Hongqi at September 11, 2008 09:44 PM (+WuMm) Posted by: Kasper Hauser at September 11, 2008 09:45 PM (7wlKZ) 110
Pssst! Mr. The Obvious! That's not the real allahpundit you're insulting.
Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 11, 2008 09:48 PM (EnHNG) 111
No, but the real Allah needs to hear it, doesn't he?
Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 09:49 PM (1g+FW) 112
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6c2f69ce-8031-11dd-99a9-000077b07658.html Congressional Democrats are worried Obama's going to hurt their chances at re-election. Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 11, 2008 09:51 PM (4ZOxD) 113
Didn't watch it, but A+ for Ace, NO ONE else has any damn thing up about it. Sorry, I don't count the "other people" over there. Sounds like she held her own. Fuck the MSM. Have I used cocksucker yet? Damn, well those cocksuckers need to know when the German's bombed pearl harbor, we kicked ass. I really don't give a shit about Georgia, but if those son of bitches come near my beach house in SC, I am going to fuck with them. Don't cross the fucking border, SC started one war, and they are not to be fucked with! Get it Assholes? We still have a military college, and guns and shit. Fair warning! Posted by: kempermanx at September 11, 2008 09:51 PM (2+9Yx) 114
The other thing to realize with foreign policy is that she has to not only show familiarity with the issue, but with McCain's stance on said issue. What is McCain's take on the Bush Doctrine? Has he supported it or not? Clearly, he is at odds with Bush over the use of "torture" but is that part of the Doctrine or not?
She had to be more memorized here because taking a position at odds with McCain would be seen as a gaffe. Very hard to be relaxed when you can't tell someone what YOU actually think about the issue. I would expect, for example, similar challenges to emerge on issues like Immigration policy. Palin's best responses come from her common sense, and when McCain deviates from common sense, it puts her in more of a bind not to make him look bad. Posted by: Vern at September 11, 2008 09:53 PM (5tcj3) 115
I have the video, and my reaction at Nice Deb. Overall, I think Gibson was snide and condescending towards her. I also posted his more friendly interview with Obama from 10 months ago, so you can compare and contrast. He brought up "hubris" in that one, too. Posted by: Nice Deb at September 11, 2008 09:57 PM (oE+7c) 116
The thing that we have to remember is that MANY people who watched this interview are not political junkies like we are. In that regard, I think she did very well.
Chew on this: Next will be questions about domestic policy and energy policy and that is where she is going to be much more comfortable and is going to excellent. Posted by: Jay at September 11, 2008 09:57 PM (nhyPd) 117
HA! She didn;t know what the Bush Doctrine is! What a Hoot!
Uh....What is the Bush Doctrine? Heh, that's exactly what i was thinking. I've heard the Powell doctrine repeated over and over (but still couldn't tell you exactly what it is other than overwhelming force) but don't remember ever hearing the Bush doctrine. Posted by: koopy at September 11, 2008 09:57 PM (ynsah) 118
Pssst! Mr. The Obvious! That's not the real allahpundit you're insulting. Maybe not but the poster was quoting Allahpundit over at Hotair. And the commenters there seem to be disagreeing with him. Of course whenever I read a post by AP, I always apply an inverse pessimism filter, but this one seemed dark and peevish even after that. Posted by: Maetenloch at September 11, 2008 09:57 PM (hn7Rm) 119
No, but the real Allah needs to hear it, doesn't he?
I dunno. But if you really thinks he needs to hear it, you would post it on his site. Or, better yet. Email it to him. I'm sure he will be receptive to any of your criticisms of him. /snicker. Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 11, 2008 09:59 PM (EnHNG) 120
I think Gibson was talking about the doctrine of preemptive strike. God, President Bush was stupid to ever articulate that position. Everyone knows it is the unwritten rule.
Posted by: Hongqi at September 11, 2008 09:59 PM (+WuMm) 121
I have. He wasn't... Doesn't mean I'm not right.
Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 10:02 PM (1g+FW) 122
And trust me, when the folks at Talk Left think Palin's critics are being foolish on the Bush Doctrine question they are being damned foolish... http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/9/11/20922/5391
Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 10:07 PM (1g+FW) 123
Ughh. Why can't we slap Allah around like that scene from "Airplane"?
Posted by: eddiebear at September 11, 2008 10:07 PM (+esQa) 124
It was perfectly reasonable for Ms. Palin to insist on a clarification about the frickin Bush Doctrine. It can mean so many things to so many people. It was a trick question. We know this because it was at the very end and when she asked for a clarification, he just repeated the dumb question.
Posted by: bruin at September 11, 2008 10:07 PM (r7Cox) 125
Would it kill these douchenozzle "journalists" to acquaint themselves with the North Atlantic Treaty? Exactly what do they think the f'in VII Corps was doing sitting in the Fulda Gap for four decades?
I thought she'd get a fair shake from Gibson, but even he is caught up in the gotcha moments. Fuck him, ABC and the sled dogs they rode in on. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2008 10:12 PM (ZylhF) 126
"We begin motherfucking bombing Goddamn Russia in 15 minutes, you magnificent bastard asshole dickweeds!" - Sarah, channeling the ghost of Reagan and Patton drinking together in heaven. Posted by: Spartan Fan at September 11, 2008 10:14 PM (7365r) 127
Eddiebear,
No sense in being angry. Just know that Allah is gong to instinctively adopt any MSM talking point that comes down the line and adjust for the break of the green. It's what we have had to do with all our news coverage. No biggie. Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 10:15 PM (1g+FW) 128
Hmmmm.
Frankly I think Palin ripped Gibson a new asshole a couple times. Particularly with Lincoln's quote. Right now Gibson is busy stitching his ass back together. Posted by: memomachine at September 11, 2008 10:16 PM (f4Zt4) 129
Hmmmm.
"Some are not...for example, I think Brit Hume is pretty scrupulously fair. Or have I drunk Fox News Koolaid?" Brit Hume is a class act. Whether or not you're a conservative or liberal. I don't think anybody could argue that Brit Hume isn't a completely class act. Last of a generation though. Which sucks. Posted by: memomachine at September 11, 2008 10:19 PM (f4Zt4) 130
Brit Hume is by far the best anchor presently in the business.
I also thought Russert was good, but not as good as Hume. Too bad he's retiring. Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at September 11, 2008 10:21 PM (V1hne) 131
Think they felt that had to get the opposition to interview her or the rhetoric from the left would have never stopped.
But yeah, they should have had Brit Hume first. Posted by: Hongqi at September 11, 2008 10:21 PM (+WuMm) 132
The question, again, isn't what we think (unless we think she totally sucked), it's how it played in Peoria.
Who knows, on that score? Watch the polls. Posted by: someone at September 11, 2008 10:22 PM (2z2WN) Posted by: Faye Kinnitt at September 11, 2008 10:23 PM (l1oyw) 134
I'll speak for Peoria. She got about a "B" on that one. However, as somone else said, she hasn't been sitting in on Senate intel briefs for the last 100 years getting regional sitreps spoon fed to her. The Lady has been running a state.
Besides, those geopolitical wonks disagree with each other about 80% of the time anyway. Posted by: Hongqi at September 11, 2008 10:28 PM (+WuMm) 135
Loaded questions not a single Democrat would <i>ever</i> hear, nonstop condescention, dripping arrogance -- even cheap camera angles, imposing body English, and those fucking nose glasses.
Fuck you, Gibson. You're a clownsuit. Palin, who I know little about, shoved it in your face. I'm sold. I don't watch much network vomitus but Gibson just hit what must be a personal low. Is this actually an <i>adult?</i> Posted by: Ten at September 11, 2008 10:28 PM (JQIsF) 136
It will play fine. Charlie hurt himself with this.
Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 10:28 PM (1g+FW) 137
Sorry. I just thought it was a neutral gain/loss moment. No serious "facepalms".
But I am biased, so maybe I missed something. Posted by: eddiebear at September 11, 2008 10:30 PM (+esQa) 138
The way I understand the Bush Doctrine is 1) you're either with us or against us 2) if you harbor terrorists, you're a terrorist 3) we'll hit you before you can hit us Posted by: Jones in CO at September 11, 2008 10:32 PM (VkNlv) Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 11, 2008 10:33 PM (EnHNG) 140
I agree with many here. She did not hurt herself. Given the particularly hostile circumstances, that's good enough. A solid B sounds about right. I don't think she was nervous, though. I would describe it more as intense, as if she was concentrating for an onslaught.
Posted by: JB at September 11, 2008 10:35 PM (qxc7J) Posted by: Gran at September 11, 2008 10:35 PM (mTWN+) Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 10:41 PM (1g+FW) 143
That was the most hostile interview I've seen in quite some time. She's answering him, and he says he's "lost in a blizzard of words"?? When Obama blathers on for ten minutes, they compliment him on his thoughtfulness, for his nuance.tm With her, it's a blizzard of words. And has anyone EVER suggested to Obama in an interview that his decision to run for office is an example of 'hubris'?
Posted by: Average Jen at September 11, 2008 10:41 PM (OINAg) 144
Err, yes, Georgia, we should er, well, we should tell, er, someone, like, errr, yeah, like I was saying, we should tell Germany -oh, was it Russia?, well we should tell them, er, ah, did I mention lipstick on a pig, well anyway, we should tell Germany, or was that Poland, that they really shouldn't be er, ah, oh yeah that's where I was goin', yeah we should tell them in the strongest possible terms (they taught me those fightin' words at Harvard Law School --oh, did I tell you my LSAT scores -oh, I din't --my bad) any-hoo, I figure my er, ahhh, experience in south-side Chicago communist er, ah, I meant community-activist organiziin' type-stuff qualifies me to, er, ah, lay the hand down on this Putin pimp. Oh yeah, did I mention that in the Senate of the Great State of Illionois, I actually show'd up and voted "President", ah, er, uhm, did I say that?, er, uhm, ah. I meant "present", 130 times. Now, I don't know 'bout that traitor McCain, who crashed his plane, (this rapper thang could work out, too), or what that whore-mother Palin (doncha talk bad 'bout my mama) is getting up all in my grill 'bout -but I'm, er, aah, oh yeah, that's where I was goin' er, yeah, that's right, er, no, I meant left. So, there you have it my fellow 'muricans, -did I mention my LSAT and SAT scores -I din't well 2 fuk'n bad. Any way you should vote me because of all the lite that reflects off the bottom of my chin, when I stare into my future. Peace out. Your Prez
Posted by: Son of a Pig and a Monkey at September 11, 2008 10:43 PM (KwoXV) 145
So honoring treaty obligations is considered "hard line" by the MSM now eh?
Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 11, 2008 10:43 PM (6L459) 146
I think she was weaker than she could have been. She was acting as if it wasn’t a hostile interview and it clearly was! She needs to force the interviewers to ask a specific question and not try to answer the question in any accommodating way. Let them do the work! The bastards want to crucify her and there is little point in pretending otherwise. She needs to turn the questions around to what she wants to emphasis and flat out ignore ambiguous questions. I also think she needs to challenge questions that simply make little sense or are too ambiguous. I don’t think she can enter an interview with the fake camaraderie that they so typically have. Assume every interview will be a hatchet job until proven otherwise. Posted by: Travis at September 11, 2008 10:44 PM (/XCyf) 147
#146
Did we watch the same interview? Her concentrated expression was a reaction to hostile questioning, I thought; she wasn't treating anything as friendly. "I also think she needs to challenge questions that simply make little sense or are too ambiguous." You mean, like, "which part (of the Bush Doctrine)?" Come to think of it, I'm glad she didn't answer the question. It would have looked un(vice)presidential to jump through Charlie's quiz show hoops. Posted by: JB at September 11, 2008 10:48 PM (qxc7J) 148
Charlie Gibson sure is a self-important condescending prick. Sarah Palin came off relatively well but Gibson made quite an ass of himself.
Posted by: Hartsfeld at September 11, 2008 10:49 PM (Vi57P) 149
Is ABC editing the video on the west coast feed to
make charlie look better?.http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzhkZTI4ZGJmYTdmY2M5OTMyYzE1MjFiY2VmNDllMzQ=
Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 10:51 PM (1g+FW) 150
Well, heck - having turned into sort of a geeky wonk over the last few election cycles, *I*'ve heard "The Bush Doctrine" applied to many different things. Are we talking the right to pre-emptive strike, here? The Axis of Evil thing? Combating the spread of terrorism? Willingness to pursue U.S. interests in a unilateral way?
I think she was right to ask him to actually be specific. ---- And Sarah -- fercryinoutloud -- sit up straight! Posted by: Faye Kinnitt at September 11, 2008 10:53 PM (l1oyw) 151
I just think she seemed a little too eager to answer questions which given the MSM are all gonna be gotcha types or edited in the studio.
She shouldn't always try to answer the questions they ask. Answer the questions you think they should have asked. For example the question regarding experience. She should have mentioned her executive experience as a Governor, rather than the point about Russia as that is the weaker case. Posted by: Travis at September 11, 2008 10:55 PM (/XCyf) 152
Now we definitely didn't watch the same interview, because she did, to some degree, all the things you're suggesting she should have.
Posted by: JB at September 11, 2008 10:57 PM (qxc7J) 153
From the little I've seen I think she looked smart and serious and Charlie looked kind of silly. She was looking through her glasses with her head held high, he was looking over his glasses and down his nose. Posted by: tcbevo at September 11, 2008 10:57 PM (inTsh) 154
I saw a 10 minute Youtube clip and it looked to be heavily edited in parts. I hope the McCain campaign made sure to secure access to the raw footage if needed.
Posted by: Travis at September 11, 2008 11:00 PM (/XCyf) Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 11, 2008 11:05 PM (EnHNG) 156
Allah is a world-class prick, and yes, he's wrong about this interview. I've been blogging about war and politics for six years and I didn't have the slightest fucking clue what Gibson wanted her to say.
Which "Bush Doctrine"? Are you asking about the doctrine first offered by Bush in his address to Congress after 9/11 ("with us or against us"), the one he put forward in his second inaugural ("democracies don't invade one another"), the one he's actually followed (sometimes I lose track and just fallback on #1 and #2), or the moral inversion peddled by the Left ("the REAL reason he's doing all this is blood for oil and dividing the country to win elections!" blah blah yadda yadda)? Btw, how's that last one working for us, eh? Does Allah want her to give in to Gibson's trap and say she'd unilaterally invade other countries? Oh, what a field day the Left and the MSM (but I repeat myself) would have had if she fell for that. Her answers were perfectly appropriate, though my version sitting here at my desk had a few more expletives and racial epithets thrown in. Good for her that she kept her cool, and shame on Allah for praying for more fireworks, just so he could skewer her some more. Maybe that's the point. There really wasn't anything substantial Allah could say against her, so he trots out all he's got; "She was weak - I dare you to be a fanboy." Fuck you, ya third-rate demigod. And for the record, I'll post my messages to Allah here, thanks. I try and spend as little time in that cesspool as possible. Posted by: The Black Republican at September 11, 2008 11:07 PM (0guas) Posted by: SukieTawdry at September 11, 2008 11:13 PM (+Z2Is) 158
Allah is okay, he just has a bit of the Eeyore in him. Think he is just so worried that she will not live up to expectations that he projects.
Posted by: Hongqi at September 11, 2008 11:14 PM (+WuMm) 159
Palin is a one trick pony. She ought to be called "Caribou Barbie" - what a lightweight! Yeah, let's see her in front of Putin with her Tammy Faye hairdo. She is being so overly protected in the last two weeks it's pathetic. She is trailer trash. TrollAlanche! Warm up the Anointed! Get her some real scrutiny and see how long it takes for her to crack up and break down. Posted by: Donna at September 11, 2008 11:17 PM (fxgE9) 160
Allah is what he is. A smart guy who goes fetal whenever a member of the MSM looks at him askance. We all have out weaknesses. And the Repubs on the whole are better off with him that without him. Just adjust for the lay of the green when you putt that's all.
Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 11:20 PM (1g+FW) 161
Gibson was not ready for the interview, he got context and facts wrong. She did OK. She is not running as a policy wonk, she will do much better in the tax and energy segments tomorrow during the day.
Posted by: cv at September 11, 2008 11:22 PM (9PAMq) 162
Wow! Pretty shaky when she's not delivering the same speech over and over every day that somebody else wrote for her. Thinking is hard!
This is the best Kos can send over? Isn't there a BushLiedPeopleDied circle jerk on Thursdays theyr'e supposed to attend? The Anointed Posted by: Kevinrudge at September 11, 2008 11:24 PM (gAk6E) 163
#162
Did you notice that she got through it w/o a teleprompter? And without lots of uhhh's? Unlike some other candidate we all know. Fuck off, troll. Posted by: Gran at September 11, 2008 11:27 PM (mTWN+) 164
I just scanned the comments in the thread, which I hadn't read first, and then looked at Treacher. Amazing how we all respond to the same bullshit so similarly. It's almost like we're part of a unified ideology that follows a coherent and logical methodology.
(And dear Lord, help Sarah lead us back to that promised land...) Posted by: The Black Republican at September 11, 2008 11:27 PM (0guas) 165
I'm with you on that prayer of the promised land. First time I read Goldwater's Conscience of a Conservative, knew I found a home.
Posted by: Hongqi at September 11, 2008 11:30 PM (+WuMm) 166
I want them to win, Gran. I just realized tonight that the last week is a fluke and that Obama and Biden are going to beat them up pretty good. Maybe she can get her act together and run as the head of the ticket in 4-8 years. I still like her, she just can't think on her feet or speak well if she has to come up with her own words.
troll? are you 80 years old? If you really expect us to believe that you want them to win, we really want to play poker with you. You're an amateur, troll... you can't even pretend to moby well. Go find some other amateurs to annoy. The Anointed Posted by: Kevinrudge at September 11, 2008 11:30 PM (gAk6E) 167
Donna, get me a sandwich, sweetie.
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 11, 2008 11:33 PM (VkNlv) 168
You know why your guys lose elections they should win, Donna? It's no big secret! People like you, think you're better than the rest of humanity, and no matter how much you try to hide it, it shows. We can all see your smirking contempt for your fellow man. I am sure you think that calling her ‘trailer trash’ is some sort of devastating putdown. You progressives see yourselves as especially knowledgeable about the world and dismiss others as 'trailer trash' or 'low information' voters. You see yourself as the select few on a crusade to save the rest of us from ourselves. You are elitists in the worst and most vulgar way possible. Do you really see Obama’s empty platitudes as something more than good speechwriting? How has he been standing up under scrutiny these past weeks now that the gnobgobbling of the Democratic Primaries are over? When challenged he folds up like a house of cards and resorts to juvenile remarks about Sarah Palin and frat boy pranks like giving the finger to Hillary without the guts to even do it openly. He is not worthy of being elected as High School Principal much less anything grander. Posted by: Travis at September 11, 2008 11:34 PM (/XCyf) 169
High school principals are elected?
Posted by: Kevinrudge at September 11, 2008 11:41 PM (gAk6E) 170
Kevinrudge, whatever Kos is paying, you ain't worth it. Go back and tell him to find someone who is actually good at this.
Posted by: The Obvious at September 11, 2008 11:48 PM (1g+FW) 171
Which troll site linked us?
Posted by: someone at September 11, 2008 11:50 PM (2z2WN) 172
Get her some real scrutiny and see how long it takes for her to crack up and break down.
Obama's already cracking up and he hasn't even been scrutinized heavily yet. Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 11, 2008 11:58 PM (6L459) 173
Whether or not you agree with candidates, I believe it would be best to vote for the party that can give reasons beyond "because God says so." America was founded upon the written promise to keep the church and the state separate entities. How can one call themself of an American when our founders came here to get away from people who believe that they have been exposed to all of life's lessons by the time they finish their first year of Sunday School. While I don't know what is best for the world, at least I'm smart enough not to dedicate my life to one theory. I'm also smart enough to realize that the King James version written between 1604-1611 does not constitute "proof." Oh, this is good. Brooke evidently believes that all of us are fundamentalists here. Brooke, please return to your troll cave and come up with something that requires a little less projection and methamphetamine. Love and kisses, The Anointed Posted by: Brooke at September 12, 2008 12:10 AM (HxbjM) 174
I finally watched as many of the clips as I could find on line. I completely agree with an earlier poster: "She came off well. Not great, but good. She will get better. There is not there here. . . . I say this was a big point for the good guys." Sarah was the same Sarah we saw in Denver -- our favorite detective from Fargo. Gibson spent the evening staring down his nose at her. The camera angle was designed to make him loom large and tall. No gaffes, and some positively splendid moments. The clip most likely to be played on TV -- the "God on our side" segment -- shows her modest, humble, in command of Lincoln. And, with Gibson's "exact words" admonishment, ABC will be eating some big crow. I say, thanks for the practice, Charlie (sounded like Hepburn to Bogart in the African Queen). And, best of all, this reinforces that ABC thinks Obama is running against Palin. Wake up, Barry, you need to start grappling with John. Posted by: Jude at September 12, 2008 12:14 AM (zFsNS) 175
Is it just me, or does it kind of seem like Russia tends not to start crap with nations that are members of NATO? Posted by: Dave M at September 12, 2008 12:16 AM (CzAW6) 176
My God. She did not have a clue what she was talking about and was clearly talking from memorizing talking points. She did not know what teh "Bush Doctrine" is. My 5 year olds knows that. I am a McCain supporter, but she is an embarrasment and may end up costing us the election. The bloom is off the rose.
Oh joy. As Someone said earlier, some troll site linked us, and now we have to deal with these amateur roaches. Suffice it to say that your friendly neighborhood Anointed Ones will be up into the wee hours trying to delouse things. Thanks for your patience. Love to all our friends in the Houston and Galveston areas. The Anointed Posted by: Brett at September 12, 2008 12:17 AM (0r758) 177
Brooke
The thirteen colonies were founded by Christians fleeing a land that persecuted their particular sect. This is the reason they wanted no official state religion to be established, which is a different thing than no religion at all. To suggest that they were trying to get away from religion is an absurdity. What any of that has to do with Sarah Palin is somewhat of a mystery. She is a Christian who has never attempted to force her views on others. So is your tolerance only reserved for those who believe as you do? Posted by: Travis at September 12, 2008 12:21 AM (/XCyf) 178
Brett,
You're worse than Kevinrudge. Really, Kos pony up some of that Soros money and buy yourself a real troll. How in heaven's name did Allah fall for this silly crap? Posted by: The Obvious at September 12, 2008 12:22 AM (1g+FW) 179
She did not know what teh "Bush Doctrine" is. My 5 year olds knows that. I am a McCain supporter, but she is an embarrasment and may end up costing us the election. The bloom is off the rose. eh. The Moby is weak in this one. At least follow the script - "I'm a longtime Republican living in a small midwestern town and I never thought I would post a comment like this..." Posted by: Maetenloch at September 12, 2008 12:29 AM (hn7Rm) 180
Gee Brett, what is the Bush Doctrine?
1. The policy that the U.S. would treat countries that harbour terrorist groups as terrorists themselves 2. unilateralism 3. pre-emptive attacks against hostile countries who have WMD or programmes to develop them 4. The doctrine that peace can only be guaranteed by all countries adopting democracy and the rule of law An answer to one of these points would look stupid if applied to the other. Which was likely the point! Posted by: Travis at September 12, 2008 12:31 AM (/XCyf) 181
It's not about tolerance. I really don't care what anybody else thinks, as long as they don't make it a law that "life begins at conception", but it is God's will if you end it with a gun.
Is there a coherence knob we can turn up here? And where is this slavish belief we're all fundamentalists coming from? Back to your bridge, troll. The Anointed Posted by: Brooke at September 12, 2008 12:44 AM (HxbjM) Posted by: Brooke at September 12, 2008 01:17 AM (HxbjM) 183
Sarah Palin's life has been turned upside down by the MSM and lies put forth by the lefty blogs. She has had little sleep in two weeks, she is tired.
Sarah said goodbye today to her first born. Track is off to Iraq to fight for his country. This is her first child to leave. She has been attacked viciously by the MSM, Hollywood and Matt Damon. She is probably missing her quiet Alaskan existence before she was announced as VP. Obama has countless wolves digging into her past and trying to come up with dirt on her family. SO I ask those who do not think Sarah did well in an interview by an arrogant, MSM cocksucker with his glasses leaning on the tip of his nose: with all things considered, don't you think she did awesome? Posted by: Sea You in Tea at September 12, 2008 01:18 AM (g/h9/) 184
Yeah, I think she did pretty well. I just think she may have been too honest when the MSM is looking for a gotcha they can use to put the Holy Obama into office.
They are vampires and should be regarded as such in an obvious way so that she can communicate her distrust of them to the American people. Most Americans know the MSM is in the tank for Obama. Use humour and wit, but make that distrust obvious. Posted by: Travis at September 12, 2008 01:26 AM (/XCyf) 185
Wow. My post was deleted by the Troll. That's fine. I hope I never feel the need to bully a forum. Thank you for the discussion The Anointed. Thank you America for the beauty of controversy.
But that's just it, Brooke. You didn't come to have an honest discussion on what your problems with Palin are; you came to stir shit up and generally be a pain in the ass. Rational people can disagree- when it descended into name-calling, the kibosh comes out. And to educate you- a troll in this context is someone who shows up on a thread purely to toss around insulting remarks and is not interested in the exchange of ideas. This can be characterized by condescension, insult, overheated rhetoric, martyr-esque self-righteousness, et cetera- all impressively displayed in your posting here. Our gracious host gives us the latitude to police things, and we do so with great relish. Please hit the tipjar on your way out, and we look forward to re-engaging you at a time when you have more rest- and when you care to have a genuine discussion as opposed to preaching to us about your distrust and hatred of religion. Love and kisses, The Anointed Posted by: Brooke at September 12, 2008 01:29 AM (HxbjM) 186
I don't know what interview all of you were watching but she came across as completely clueless. She is toast!
Second part of post begins... "I felt his throbbing member enter me from behind... I had to have more, and trembled with excitement over the Dirty Sanchez that was surely to come. Little did I know that the facial that he'd leave me with was literally the icing on the cake!" Why are all these trolls dropping these sex acts into their posts? Revolting. The Anointed Posted by: mark at September 12, 2008 01:32 AM (zl9/4) 187
LMMFAOOOOOOOOOOO OMG That was just too damn funny... Talk about a Dumb Bitch? How in the hell can a Republican, let alone a Republican VP candidate NOT know what the Hillbilly.. opps, my bad, the Bush Doctrine is??? Sure blame Charlie.. I mean, he only gave her the easiest questions he could and the hag with bad ovaries STILL blew it!!!!! ROFL Newsflash... ANYONE thinking Moosegal came out of her first interview "O.K" is full of shit or attended the Fixed News school of bullshit!!!! This is classic and should be a viral HIT come Friday Morning
Charlie: Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine? Palin: In what respect, Charlie? Charlie: What do you interpret it to be? Palin: His worldview? Charlie: No, No, the Bush Doctrine. He enunciated it in September 2002, before the Iraq War. Palin: I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is to rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hellbent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes made. And with new leadership--and that's the beauty of American elections and democracy--with new leadership comes the opportunity to do things better. Charlie: The Bush Doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have
the right of anticipatory defense. We have the right to preemptively
strike any other country that we believe is going to attack us. LMMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DUH !!!! After reading the rest of the post, we decided to put the second part back in... "After violating my rectum with a toilet plunger over Charlie's sexy glasses, I just had to have more. My dog wouldn't penetrate me, so I turned to my next tool... a floodlight bulb. The big end in, I knew that would fulfill me like nothing else. Now how do I get the damn thing out? I'll just ask myself... What Would Obama Do? " Damn, Old Bitch... that's disgusting. The Anointed Posted by: OldHagwithBadOvaries at September 12, 2008 01:33 AM (9BuOV) 188
OldHagwithBadOvaries;
LMMFAOOOOOOOOOOO OMG That was just too damn funny... Talk about a Dumb Bitch? How in the hell can a Republican, let alone a Republican VP candidate NOT know what the Hillbilly.. opps, my bad, the Bush Doctrine is??? Sure blame Charlie.. I mean, he only gave her the easiest questions he could and the hag with bad ovaries STILL blew it!!!!! ROFL Newsflash... ANYONE thinking Moosegal came out of her first interview "O.K" is full of shit or attended the Fixed News school of bullshit!!!! This is classic and should be a viral HIT come Friday Morning Charlie: Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine? Palin: In what respect, Charlie? Charlie: What do you interpret it to be? Palin: His worldview? Charlie: No, No, the Bush Doctrine. He enunciated it in September 2002, before the Iraq War. Palin: I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is to rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hellbent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes made. And with new leadership--and that's the beauty of American elections and democracy--with new leadership comes the opportunity to do things better. Charlie: The Bush Doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have
the right of anticipatory defense. We have the right to preemptively
strike any other country that we believe is going to attack us. Nature not content with merely denying you the ability to reason, has cruelly endowed you with the will to demonstrate it. Posted by: Travis at September 12, 2008 01:38 AM (/XCyf) 189
robgrr!
Posted by: robgrr at September 12, 2008 02:05 AM (okjwM) 190
what right does a candidate for the second highest office in the land, someone who is asking america for the prividlege, of acting as vice-president, to wait over two weeks since her nomination to grant an interview with the media? This is not a Hollywood starlet, this is puiblic service- she owes it to the american public to allow the media to question her thoroughly- that is the job of the media in this country, to present the facts to the amerian public. and furthermore, wouldn't someone who claims to be such a reformer and a change agent want to interact wtht eh medai, want to get her message across as often possible? Ahhh, but now we now the reason why- she is a complete idiot. she demonstrated major knowledge deficits, she came off as more of hawk than George Bush, whcih is scary, and she speaks in vague platitudes and can't provide any specifics. I can only hope the american public is smart enough to perceive this- McCain and Palin are bad news. Unfortunatley, you never know, after all, we elected GWB twice... Another troll? Wow. Keep trying with the talking points. The playbook hasn't changed since Reagan; probably since Ford. By the way, troll, please don't double post, and hit the tipjar on the way out. The Anointed Posted by: robgrr at September 12, 2008 02:08 AM (okjwM) 191
sarah palin is an idiot. what right does she have to deny the american public an interveiw for two weeks? Is she a movie star? No, she is running for the second highest office in the land,.She has an obligation to be talking to the press in detail and frequenty. And if she really was the passionate change agent she says, wouldn't she want to talk with the media? but now we know why she's been so coy- she's an idiot- lots of knowledge deficits, more hawkish than Bush (scary!) and talks in vague plaitiudes while actually saying nothing.
I CUT AND PASTE 3 TIMES!!! Matt Damon! Posted by: robgrr at September 12, 2008 02:26 AM (okjwM) 192
It's going to be a long night for the Annointed...
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 12, 2008 02:32 AM (hn7Rm) 193
Unfortunately, I watched the interview and just had to pull down my pants and rub my fully erect 3 incher when Charlie Gibson frowned at THAT TRAILER TRASH SLUT over his glasses. Posted by: Christian at September 12, 2008 02:49 AM (xWVmm) 194
Christian...
We have robgrr, OldHag, mark, and Brooke. Go sell crazy someplace else. We're all stocked up here. Posted by: Travis at September 12, 2008 03:32 AM (/XCyf) 195
Charlie did a better interview than I expected. Kudos to ABC, though obviously he was completely uncomfortable with the lack of real solid answers he WASN'T getting from her. also moby moby moby moby and talking point and trailer trash and moby and lifelong republican and Bush doctrine and former McCain supporter but so uncomfortable with this interview and moby moby moby.
Posted by: Rebecca Bailey at September 12, 2008 03:40 AM (6U5Yx) 196
Look, it's a moby. Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 12, 2008 04:04 AM (wgLRl) 197
I was undecided until tonight. She sounds like a fool. And Gibson was not nearly as tough as I wanted him to be...not nearly as much as anyone has been with Clinton, Obama, Mcain or Biden for that matter. People without extreme right or left bias want to know the truth. And I got it tonight. She repeated every question as she memorized it....and still sounded dodgy. Is this the person I want making "don't blink just go" decisions that directly affect the saftey of my children? I think everyone should put their beliefs aside and really think about that question. Would you hire her to run your company? I was happy when she joined the ticket. Tonight...I was embarassed.
Posted by: we need 2 separate governments at September 12, 2008 04:34 AM (snZIB) 198
She is going to beat Slow Joe Biden like a rented moby.
Posted by: sexist? at September 12, 2008 04:39 AM (snZIB) 199
Well, the Moby quality is improving.
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 12, 2008 04:43 AM (SbVFf) 200
Why do you even make these sad little moby attempts? I have a little secret to tell the troll brigade. Come a little closer...we are NOT as stupid as you are! You are not even bright enough to lie well. Posted by: Travis at September 12, 2008 04:51 AM (/XCyf) 201
A hockey mom who has not met any foreign leaders. Her answers where shaky at best. She appears to be trigger happy and ready to shoot without blinking. Like when she shoots moose from a helicopter. NOT READY FOR PRIMETIME.
WHAT DISAPPOINTED ME MOST IS SHE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE BUSH DOCTRINE IS. PAUL! I'M PAUL!!! Posted by: PAUL at September 12, 2008 05:36 AM (bSka2) 202
I watched the video on Nice Deb's site. Thanks, Nice Deb.
Heavy editing. It even looked like on some questions they showed her answer starting in the middle. They cut her off so often it will be clear to anyone they are not interested in her, just what use they can make of her. She slammed a home run on the Bush Doctrine question. The primary focus of the Obama campaign has been to tie McCain to Bush. So to answer yes to the question would have been a bad thing. Instead she slipped in a criticism of Bush in her answer. That makes that clip worthless to the Obama campaign. ABC got no gaffes on video or they would already have shown them. They would be running constantly on CNN right now. That right there makes Palin's performance remarkable. More people will see coverage about the interview than will have watched it. The coverage will be mostly negative and will be seen that way. Just add it to the huge amount of negative coverage of Palin so far and I don't see that this interview will make any difference. I call that a win. Posted by: fredras at September 12, 2008 05:41 AM (1OMSg) 203
I don't believe in God, but that's ok because God hates me.
That's why I'm so unhappy Posted by: Godluvamerika at September 12, 2008 05:53 AM (aErBu) 204
I wish someone with the power would edit these trolls posts the way ABC edited Palin's answers.
Yes, I do know someone has that power. So its not ironic. Posted by: fredras at September 12, 2008 06:10 AM (1OMSg) 205
She's amazing! Loved it!
Posted by: Franc at September 12, 2008 08:18 AM (wCpiD) Posted by: Gran at September 12, 2008 08:50 AM (mTWN+) 207
She was gob-smackingly un-Oakeshottian. She obviously lacks the depth and nuance of the refined, educated, and - dare I say it? - divinely formed Obama, not to mention the eloquence and gravitas of the distinguished Jospeh Biden. In short, she's a disgusting Christianist breeder who no doubt tortures indigenous children when not shooting endangered species from airplanes. Now, want to see my killer glutes? Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at September 12, 2008 08:57 AM (Tcw2v) 208
The tenor of the troll infestation is becoming increasingly strange. At first it was a few citizen-journalist type trolls, the ones who leave their droppings, then actually wait for some responses. One troll, one thread. But these last few have more of the sound of HQ troll droppings. One troll, a thousand threads. Just leave a note, move on to the next blog. Within two minutes of the ABC News story on the interview, there were over 200 comments, about 95% negative. It's almost as though DNC headquarters had people just lined up waiting to post. Interesting. And very transparent. Posted by: Average Jen at September 12, 2008 09:01 AM (OINAg) 209
Wow! The moonbats really are scared! Good! Now's the time for you trolls to practice saying: Vice President Palin over and over again so you will be prepared to address her correctly after Nov. 4.
Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 12, 2008 09:05 AM (EnHNG) 210
I can't find the article I linked here yesterday. It was about how the dems were afraid Obama wasn't going to win so those running for congress were refraining from attacking McCain and trying to distance themselves from Obama. if that is how the democrat insiders feel, the trolls have a lot to worry about.
This new attack on McCain that he can't send email, is silly at best. Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 12, 2008 09:16 AM (EnHNG) 211
I would just love to see what the McCain camp REALLY thought about her responses, not whatever spin they are going to try to put on it. Was it better than they expected, based on her quick training sessions this week?
Posted by: BaxterJ at September 12, 2008 09:30 AM (NuONE) 212
My, god! The trolls are so stupid they are sockpuppetting. We can tell when you change your name and make similar posts agreeing with yourself, assholes.
Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 12, 2008 09:35 AM (EnHNG) 213
So, who linked us? I'm rolling on the floor.
Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2008 09:58 AM (evdj2) 214
As a constitutional lawyer and author of three NYT best-selllers who has been cited on the floor of the United States Senate, I can tell you that THIS woman would DESTROY the CONSITUTION! Good DAY, sir! Posted by: Glenn Greenwald at September 12, 2008 10:12 AM (Tcw2v) 215
Gibson's interview was arrogant, condescending, dishonest, and snarky. The MSM is going to ruin our country if we let them.
Posted by: texexec at September 12, 2008 10:15 AM (GtMNt) 216
I'll come right out and start by saying that I'm an Obama supporter (I know, I know, hissss, boooooo, etc.). To those of you who think that it's OK for Palin to have botched the Bush Doctrine question: I have no problem with a random hockey mom from Alaska not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is. But I do think it's completely reasonable to expect someone that could potentially be leading the country as early as January 22nd, 2009 to have a solid handle on the policies, doctrines, and standards that have contributed to US foreign policy for the last eight years, and the terms that refer to them. I would have been equally appalled if Biden had been come up similarly short in an answer...and Obama isn't 72, nor does he have a history of melanoma.
Posted by: LCE at September 12, 2008 11:11 AM (Un20k) Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 12, 2008 11:33 AM (evdj2) 218
I have no problem with a random hockey mom from Alaska....
If you're going to come here and argue, at least try to do so in good faith. She isn't a "random hockey mom." She's a governor of a state. And before that a mayor. And a former councilwoman. And the former chair of the Alaskan Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. In short, fuck off lefty troll. You and all your dipshit buddies revealed yourselves quite nicely with your lame mobying. Posted by: Warden at September 12, 2008 11:37 AM (KXbGD) Posted by: Warden at September 12, 2008 11:38 AM (KXbGD) 220
let's be real here folks. Dumbassed leftists like me think we can connect with you rubes by calling you folks. See how I did that?
let's be real here. just because she's pretty and a woman (which is why they selected her) doesn't mean sniveling little leftist turds like me are attracted to her. All of us are bicurious. Posted by: chi at September 12, 2008 12:18 PM (GoMmL) 221
she sounded a little more intelligent than GW.
Since that's the guy that keeps kick your asses, Double Plus Excellent. Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2008 12:21 PM (evdj2) 222
The interview definitely showed her lack of knowledge on some very basic and important issues in our world. Bottom line: she is unprepared and not equipped to be the vice president of this country. Other bottom line: I am unprepared for anything in life except for cutting and pasting other people's talking points.Posted by: Bonnie at September 12, 2008 12:49 PM (wX2X5) 223
Sarah Palin was real in the interview unlike Obama who comes out as fake all the time. Sarah Palin is genuine and she is who I would like to see in WASHINGTON as Vice President.
Fal Posted by: Fal at September 12, 2008 12:49 PM (V2gue) Posted by: that brier patch at September 12, 2008 12:56 PM (evdj2) 225
Jackasses: Asking a question in which there is no one right answer and which Gibson himself got wrong is no "gotcha" moment for you moonbats. As you've already been told, attacking one's enemies before they attack you has been around long before Bush.The Bush Doctrine is a collection of policies. Preemptive attack is merely one of them. That plus the editing when Gibson misquoted her about her speech and when she tried to correct him he insisted he was right was another way Gibso made himself look like a fool. The fact that he and his network creatively edited out his gaffe and left her response out of context, is proof how dishonest they are.
Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 12, 2008 01:05 PM (e07gK) 226
Bonnie is unprepared and not equipped to post on aoshq.
Posted by: Boobenfloppinschtoppin at September 12, 2008 01:07 PM (e07gK) 227
Wonder what Bambi's "Doctrine" is? Bottom line, he is unprepared and not equipped to be the president of this country. Posted by: Javems at September 12, 2008 01:45 PM (hq71Y) 228
Is it just me or is this the least extemporaneous concern trolling you've ever heard?
(For republicans that means it was unprepared) I've already cut and pasted this once, proving, pretty much, that I have nothing better to do with my time than drop ineffective screeds into right wing blogs that simply get laughed at while reaffirming everyone's belief that leftists are both dishonest and stupid.
Posted by: Godluvamerika at September 12, 2008 02:21 PM (aErBu) Posted by: toby928 at September 12, 2008 02:54 PM (evdj2) 230
Wow what did you have to do go out and search a thesaurus in order to pull out the word extemporaneous . I see you used your college degree for something positive. Now that we have gotten past the part about you being educated. Please go get a book on american politics, and then read a book on socialism and could you then possibly elplain the difference between Obama and Socialism? (Might be kinda hard not muchthere Oh and could you possibly let me know what socialist government actually works for its people? I bet your one of the people that believes that the government owes you health care and should bail out all of these people that moved into homes because they thought they deserved it just because they were americans and needed the american dream right now with out really working for it. Oh and the best part is after their property taxes and their arm loans on their mortgages hit they were unable to afford their home resulting in the largest forclosure ratio in history. This was completely due to Bill Clinton's plan that every american should own a home. And you may want to actually use smaller words that dont have several meanings if you plan to insult someone. ex·tem·po·ra·ne·ous var interfaceflash = new LEXICOFlashObject ( "http://cache.lexico.com/d/g/speaker.swf", "speaker", "17", "18", "", "6"); interfaceflash.addParam("loop", "false"); interfaceflash.addParam("quality", "high"); interfaceflash.addParam("menu", "false"); interfaceflash.addParam("salign", "t"); interfaceflash.addParam("FlashVars", "soundUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.lexico.com%2Fdictionary%2Faudio%2Fluna%2FE04%2FE0424400.mp3"); interfaceflash.write(); /ɪkˌstɛmpəˈreɪniəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ik-stem-puh-rey-nee-uhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1. done, spoken, performed, etc., without special advance preparation; impromptu: an extemporaneous speech. 2. previously planned but delivered with the help of few or no notes: extemporaneous lectures. 3. speaking or performing with little or no advance preparation: extemporaneous actors. 4. made for the occasion, as a shelter.
Posted by: Jeff at September 12, 2008 03:33 PM (EjkX1) 231
I do however think its funy that the media and almost all liberal dem's are comparing Sarah Palin to Barrack Obama as if she was running to be president... and trying to debate which of them is more qualified. Point Blank if you need to compare Obama who is running for President to Palin who is a running mate to McCain; Your canidate Obama is not ready to be the leader of the nation. Maybe he should try being a Governer first and let Hillary have the nomination at least then we would have some humor in the white house with Bill back... That guy is great for a good laugh. See where the Dem's Messed up is when it was that close at the end of the primary and they gave it to Obama as they should because he had the majority of the popular vote in the top electorial states. However they did not count on the thousands of peole that voted for Obama in the Primary just to vote against Hillary. Posted by: Jeff at September 12, 2008 03:54 PM (EjkX1) 232
American politics, she quoted the declaration of independence as a law! Actuall, no, but I'll just say it anyway and hope it sticks. That's what us good little propagandists do. Anyhoo....Bone headed interview from all angles. Willing to go to war over Georgia. Willing to invade Pakistan! OMG!!!! I have no fucking idea what NATO does! I'm dumber than a bag of liberals! She looked bad! Posted by: Robert at September 12, 2008 04:01 PM (Oz8ft) Posted by: the strawman conservative in Liberal's heads at September 12, 2008 04:15 PM (evdj2) 234
He aint my guy! And, now, neither is McCain. No seriously, guys! I'm totally a Republican!!! But after this interview? Like, oh my god! I'm totally voting Ron Paul. And I say this as a lifelong Republican who really, really, totally likes Rush Limbaugh and that Ann Coulter woman you guys read. This isn't working, is it? Posted by: Robert at September 12, 2008 04:19 PM (Oz8ft) Posted by: the strawman conservative in Liberal's heads at September 12, 2008 04:21 PM (evdj2) 236
Just as a aside to ye link driven mobys, the main page is ace.mu.nu. Post on a thread less stale.
Posted by: the strawman conservative in Liberal's heads at September 12, 2008 04:23 PM (evdj2) 237
Well I guess we could sit back and let Russia go and do what they like and take back Georgia with force then on to the next country of the former USSR and so on and so forth. Until Russia is now the USSR again. We will end up in a cold war once again. If you think we live in a dangerous world today with the Middle East Islamic Extremists just wait if Russia is able to rebuild the USSR a new era will be here for the arms race that will develop from this and our world will be a very dangerous place indeed. If we become a pacifist nation unwilling to stick up for teh weaker nations we will pay for that dearly in the end. We tried not to join WWII and we were attacked by Japan and you would think we would not be ignorant enough as a country to think history will not repeat its self as it always does if our nation as a superpower in the world sits by and lets another country start taking over smaller weaker nations...... Oh and if we want to play the game of he said she said ... Biden told a man in a wheel chair to stand up....Wow I bet that made the gentleman feel great. Seriously I mean if thats the judge of charcted we are looking for... Oh and could you tell me the nick name of Penn St. University? I be Obama can now. Wow talk about being out of touch.... Posted by: Jeff at September 12, 2008 04:30 PM (EjkX1) 238
My real concern is that Palin goes from "knocking one out of the park" at the convention to, [what is] at best being referred to as a "bad" interview. Ok, that's not my real concern. Let's be honest. My real concern is that I'm not even competent enough to do some concern trolling without obliquely using the word concern in my post. I mean, how stupd could I possibly be? It's a good thing I'm voting Obama because I'll never be able to find gainful employment.Posted by: Robert at September 12, 2008 04:47 PM (Oz8ft) 239
Well, here I am again. Accomplishing nothing. Nothing new about that, I guess.
Posted by: Godiluvcocknballs at September 12, 2008 04:51 PM (aErBu) 240
I watched this interview online from the UK and I can tell you that us leftist men over there love the cock n balls just as much as the one's in the U.S.! Posted by: Stephen at September 12, 2008 06:26 PM (PvtuO) 241
I didn't watch the Palin Gibson interview, but got about twenty calls from women from San Franciso to Atlania who were angry with the way they calim he viciously attack this great women. Most had been fans before this, all hate his guts now and think he should be fired. Respect went from 100% to zero. what a stupid man.
So I watch it on u-tube and what I saw was an abusive man who just showed his colors in public. This man should not be around women and young girls period. He is a total jerk and abuser! I do not watch morning Televison and had no idea such a horrible women hater was a regualr on ABC. They need to get rid of this abuser. He clearly hates women and isn't worhty of being in the presence of Sarah Palin. Posted by: jeanie at September 12, 2008 08:36 PM (dKjrc) 242
She went to the UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO??? What do you expect? She knows NOTHING about anything... Basically memorizes words and recites them, spends 40k on her suits and wears glasses to look smart. She freaken linked 911 to Iraq, and doesn't even know what the Bush Doctrine is??? She's ONLY travelled to Germany, Kuwait, Canada and Mexico? Wow, honestly she's the biggest JOKE ever! How humiliating would it be to have her lead this country.
Posted by: PALIN BLOWS at September 12, 2008 09:45 PM (tvZsB) 243
I was a real supporter of Paling until these interviews. It is frightening to read so many comments stating "she will get better." Is this the same woman running for the VP job and a heartbeat away from Commander in Chief? How scary is it that her obvious lack of knowledge and understanding that she will do better? Does she need to study some more? We are to assume that she can cram for this job and will somehow click her heals and she will be qualified? From shooting moose to attacking the Russian's? I was all excited about her until now. She needs a lot more that a tudor! God help us all if we elect the hocky mom to the 2nd highest office! I hope this is all a bad dream!
Posted by: bill at September 13, 2008 12:22 AM (0KUGJ) 244
Sarah Palin's 'deer in the headlight' and 'oh shit' look in response to the Bush document question confirms that she is not prepared to be our next VP and God have mercy, certainatly not our next President. Republicans, keep prepping her and maybe in four or more years she may be better prepared, educated and ready to lead our country. Hillary could serve as an excellent mentor. You cannot believe that her gender alone is enough to capture the vote of women.
Posted by: DrEMEvans at September 13, 2008 12:50 AM (b78TN) 245
yeah...i remember cornhole highschool....they had a great astrology program
Posted by: mutt at September 13, 2008 02:08 AM (74MBu) 246
To those who thought Palin didn't understand the " Bush Doctrine":
Apparently you mind was too busy of hating Palin, you did not see how clever she was for asking him to CLARIFY the "BD". None of us ever heard of this term-the MEDIA& The Left made the terms up as they go along-is it an official term? where does it posted? Is it only used by ABC News? The question was full of quagmire, it was a trick question. Only IDIOT would answers it without knowing all facts or before thinking it through. Posted by: baxter01 at September 13, 2008 06:07 AM (dN4Y5) 247
PLEASE LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF - "WILLFUL IGNORANCE" pretty much sums up this situation. I must have watched a different interview. Ask yourselves this, is it better to bullshit your way thru an answer and look like you are clearly bullshitting your way thru an answer or to say "Charlie, I am not familiar with what you are asking me" and be honest? I would have respected that regardless or if I support or not. This is CRAZY, for people to not only condone but PROMOTE her responses as legitimate or Charlie's fault (he's the one who was wrong). In any case the word(s) for today and this particular segment of the campaign - "WILLFUL IGNORANCE".
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