Andrew Sullivan Continues Peddling Trig Trutherism

I've written to him twice asking for comment (something he himself doesn't bother with when he launches his own smears and Bircheresque conspiracy theories).

He has not responded.

Here then are emails that a long-time reader (whom I have no reason to doubt, particularly, except for general skepticism and a desire for fairness) to Sullivan, and his replies.

As he has not bothered to deny they're his, I assume they are. I have reversed the order of query and reply (they're backwards in the format sent to me) for ease of reading, and put Sullivan's responses in bold.

First:

From: dailydish.email@gmail.com
To: [reader's email redacted]
Sent: 8/31/2008 6:55:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Re: Jonah on Sullivan
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 6:47 PM, wrote:
> Sullivan Sinks To Bottom Of Cess Pool In your defense of Obama in the
> Presidential race, your latest post on Governor Palin and her baby moves you
> and your blog into the realm of Joseph Goebbels.

look: if it's untrue, they can easily disprove it
i will post such evidence immediately upon getting it
andrew

Okay... well, I guess that was Sunday, when Sullivan was finally discovering that a 100 pound woman who is photographed suddenly weightng 150 pounds might just be pregnant and not simply overdosing on Haagen-Dasz, so maybe it was taking him a little while to wrap his head around the nuances of the whole human reproductive cycle thing he's heard so much about.

He doesn't really understand the finer details of those creatures that some of his radical friends call "breeders" in their more heterophobic moments, so I guess I can understand his bafflement at all these strange new facts.

But how about today?

Today, after dozens of pregnancy pictures have been produced.

Today, after journalists working in the Juneau capitol have said, flatly, "Of course she was pregnant, you idiots; why didn't anyone just call us? We could have told you she was heavy with child for two months."

Today, after it is known that Bristol is now pregnant and has been for months, making it almost medically impossible that Bristol could have carried a child to term just months before becoming pregnant "again."

Today -- he's still pushing Trig Trutherism:

From: dailydish.email@gmail.com
To: [redacted]
Sent: 9/3/2008 4:49:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Re: Yuval Post

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:45 PM, wrote:
> I rather suspect your hyperventilation against what Yuval has written was
> mostly provoked by the following portion: "...the breathless careless airing
> of deranged rumors about her private life, the staggeringly indecent
> mistreatment of her teenage daughter in a difficult time, the ill-informed
> piling on about the vetting process..."
>
> I agree with what the pundit said on cable earlier, "Andrew Sullivan and
> Daily Kos will go down in the annals of blogging as the ultimate in deranged
> and dishonest writing...they and their associates should be shunned by all
> decent people..."

but is it her baby????

I don't know if Andrew Sullivan is technically "evil." I am not sure he still has the legal capacity for mens rea, the guilty thought.

I am now fairly certain he is simply insane. His brain has degenerated for some reason or another. He is simply no longer capable of rational thought.

It's actually quite sad. His passage into a frightening twilight of gibbering insanity is one I wouldn't wish on any enemy.

Except him, of course. But I think that's understood.

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Posted by: Ace at 05:52 PM

Comments

1 I can't believe The Atlantic still gives a paycheck to that bug chaser.

Posted by: thirteen28 at September 03, 2008 05:53 PM (s8N54)

2 I would say it was Andrews baby. It's true till he disproves it.

But then again, Andrew is cock swallowing milky load taker suffering from AIDS induced PDS.

Posted by: BillyBob at September 03, 2008 05:56 PM (w27nT)

3 Why do you even bother with this nancy?

He's a detestable liar, so why give him any space?

Posted by: thebronze at September 03, 2008 05:57 PM (YlH3h)

4 I can't wait for his visa waiver to expire and get his fucking ass out of the country. Yeah, he can pollute the internet from anywhere but I want his fucking insane, smear merchant, milky load sucking ass out of this country ASAP.

Posted by: DrewM. at September 03, 2008 05:57 PM (hlYel)

5 Ace,

There's only one possible explanation for Sully's whacked-out, emotionalistic, impervious-to-logic craziness;

Andrew Sullivan is pregnant.

Release the records, Andrew.

Posted by: Noel at September 03, 2008 06:00 PM (4gHqM)

6 4 I can't wait for his visa waiver to expire and get his fucking ass out of the country. Yeah, he can pollute the internet from anywhere but I want his fucking insane, smear merchant, milky load sucking ass out of this country ASAP.

Posted by: DrewM. at September 03, 2008 05:57 PM (hlYel)

Brazil is pretty nice.

Posted by: Sockety McBeatoffsock Greenwald at September 03, 2008 06:00 PM (YCVBL)

7 Maybe this has been said before, but perhaps, Sullivan = Captain Kurtz from Apocalyse Now? Gone way too far, and we can't ever get him back.

Posted by: hutch1200 at September 03, 2008 06:01 PM (Z0Mg8)

Off topic but Megyn Kelley just raked the Editor of US Weekly over the coals. He just got beclowned. Kelley question paraphrased "You mention Todd Palin's DUI, did you mention it happened 22years ago?". His response (after first lieing and saying yes to which she said, I read the story and you did not mention it so try again) "We don't have room for everything in the story".

Asshole.

Posted by: Big E at September 03, 2008 06:01 PM (RWzXM)

9 Syphilis.

Is there anything it can't do?

Posted by: Bart at September 03, 2008 06:01 PM (3wdXX)

10 I just went an e-mail to [redacted] and it errored out. WTF?

OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE publish Sticky-Glutes' e-mail addy. Why not? If he's doing this shit to a 17 yr old, assaulting, damned near physically, an upstanding family, using a disabled child as a shill in his bizarre sexually fired psychotic fantasies, surely I can forward him my most recent "HELLO MY GOOD FRIEND IAM FROM NIGERIA ANS WISH TO MAKES A TRANSACTION WITH YOU" spam. Well, that and straight porn, just to get him to stop wanking his ghey junk over a "whiff" of scandal the likes of which such "whiff he hasn't had since at least 3:00 today in an unnamed bathhouse.

Please, let me fuck with the deranged.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 03, 2008 06:01 PM (Pvb5b)

11 Problem with singling him out for biological-based insanity is that he had so much company over the last six days. There are those dkos commenters you quoted earlier along with a lot of other people. This is true mass hysteria.

Posted by: Brad at September 03, 2008 06:05 PM (XWJh5)

I am now fairly certain he is simply insane. His brain has degenerated for some reason or another. He is simply no longer capable of rational thought.

I'm still not quite buying the AIDS dementia, but I know from family friends who have dealt with parents with senile dementia that sometimes it's inhibitions and judgement that go first rather than memory and logical thinking. One friend's father started exposing himself and saying the most vicious things to people, but it wasn't until he couldn't remember their names that they suspected senility and not a stroke.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 03, 2008 06:06 PM (hn7Rm)

13 Publish his e-mail, his SS#, his address, his phone, his bank and credit card numbers, his bath houses... no disgrace or dirty trick is too much for Power Glutes. Let it come down.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 03, 2008 06:06 PM (AZGON)

14 Perhaps Sullivan needs to go to that refresher reproduction/ birth control class along with John Edwards.

If that doesn't work, I'd recommend lots of antibiotics for the super STD that's obviously infected his brain. Pre-AIDS dementia perhaps?

Posted by: shibumi at September 03, 2008 06:07 PM (tZB/c)

15 ps: And Congratulations!

Posted by: Noel at September 03, 2008 06:08 PM (4gHqM)

16 "I can't believe The Atlantic still gives a paycheck to that bug chaser."

I rather doubt he's chasing that bug anymore. Judging by his writing, I'd say that's a bug he caught a while ago, what with the dementia and all...

Posted by: Achmed at September 03, 2008 06:08 PM (x7T2O)

17 I'm beginning to think he hasn't gone nuts through AIDS and drugs but really IS evil just like his buddies at Kos. It's time to contact the advertisers on his blog.

Posted by: Patrick Joubert Conlon at September 03, 2008 06:08 PM (dK66k)

18 Conservative blogs get nasty also. I have left nasty comments in the past and there is no way I will do it again after watching this. Even if it is a serious question it might be best to just leave some things alone.

Posted by: bleh at September 03, 2008 06:11 PM (GNCy6)

19 I guess Kafka's not on Andi's reading list.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at September 03, 2008 06:14 PM (MMC8r)

20 If McCain wins, The Atlantic's server is going to crash the next day from all the people schadenfreuding off to the daily dish. It will be long and sweet.

Posted by: Judd at September 03, 2008 06:18 PM (BXHeE)

Andi:Evil::Sarah Palin:American

Posted by: DenverGregg at September 03, 2008 06:22 PM (5tPx9)

22 It's the HepC plus HIV.

That's a bad combo for cognition.

Posted by: SarahW at September 03, 2008 06:24 PM (7sl9X)

23 moar lulz

This too reminds me of the Iraq war. Even though the warning signs are now blaring red and flashing, even though we face a meltdown if Palin is nominated, and the destruction of her family, and a horrifying tabloid car crash, the GOP leadership cannot apparently acknowledge an error and back down before it's too late. They are clearly trying to decide if it's worse if McCain acknowledges his fantastic mistake or if it's better just to carry on and pretend nothing is really happening - or going to happen.

Posted by: bleh at September 03, 2008 06:24 PM (GNCy6)

24 I heard Andrew Sullivan has had sexual intercourse with Satan (all types).

look: if it's untrue, they can easily disprove it
i will post such evidence immediately upon getting it
andrew Me.

Posted by: john patton at September 03, 2008 06:26 PM (ldoxy)

GOP leadership cannot apparently acknowledge an error and back down before it's too late. They are clearly trying to decide if it's worse if McCain acknowledges his fantastic mistake or if it's better just to carry on and pretend nothing is really happening - or going to happen.

You bolded the wrong part- this is the truly hilarious part. Because, you know- Sullivan is all about backing down and acknowledging a mistake when he's wrong.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 03, 2008 06:29 PM (rf03a)

26 Tabloid "car crash"? Even if I weren't a prosecutor, that'd still sound a lot like a death threat to me. I hope the Secret Service is reading the unconcealed evil these people have descended to.

Posted by: Dave J at September 03, 2008 06:30 PM (qsGH+)

27 Okay, so you know what? I really try to avoid this, because it's unprofessional, it's amateurish, it's the opposite of the attitude I try to maintain towards commentators/bloggers/political enemies that irk me....but I genuinely hate Andrew Sullivan now.

Let me be clear about this. I don't hate the various Huffington Post bloggers. I don't hate Glenn Greenwald. I don't hate Markos Moulitsas, I don't hate Joshua Micah Obadiah Zephaniah Marshall. I don't even dislike these people. They irk me immensely, but I recognize that they're political operators - they're doing their jobs, and they never really claim to be morally righteous crusaders. They're hacks, in the nicest sense of the word.

But Andrew Sullivan has aroused a loathing from within my soul that I never thought I could feel towards someone I've never met. He cloaks himself in the brave mantle of integrity more nakedly than any other writer in the nation, and does so eloquently. And yet everything he does is motivated by sheer hypocrisy, a terrifyingly cynical willingness to smear his enemies in the worst way possible whilst constantly maintaining a po-faced "what, me?" outward position. I refuse to believe he's demented or any such thing. Nor can I believe that he's so taken by partisanship that he's blind to the manifest inequities in his treatment of Palin (to use this example) vs. Obama. Therefore I am left with the sole conclusion that he knows what he is doing. He is being dishonest on purpose.

He enjoys it, sees it as a game, and has no scruples whatsoever about the way in which he is torching his own reputation. Anything to elect Obama. And I just can't understand that.

Actually, I guess I can. Shakespeare said it best in Hamlet: "One may smile, and smile, and be a villain."

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 03, 2008 06:37 PM (BWTSB)

28 He has not responded

No the honest factual true conservative will wait a week and then put a 4 word post that looks like a non-sequitur pointing to the truth of some little no big deal post he once did.

Posted by: topsecretk9 at September 03, 2008 06:37 PM (+Sh+E)

29 I also have this fantasy where Sarah Palin encounters Andrew Sullivan in a chance meeting. And then she kicks him in the balls so hard his testicles rupture.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 03, 2008 06:39 PM (BWTSB)

30 Have we forgotten about Occam's Razor? Isn't it more likely that Andi isn't insane, or suffering from some STD, but is just stupid? I mean, the principles of conservatism aren't that difficult to grasp, but Andi can't do that. What evidence is there that he is a great, or even average, thinker?

Posted by: Ted K. at September 03, 2008 06:39 PM (8DcPF)

31 Someone needs to threaten the Atlantic with a libel suit. As publisher, they are as liable for spreading Milky Loads' baseless smears as he is, and they HAVE risen to the level of "actual malice": they are either knowingly false or published with reckless disregard for whether they're false or not.

Posted by: Dave J at September 03, 2008 06:44 PM (qsGH+)

32 As an interesting aside, Ross Douthat, who is one of Sullivan's co-bloggers at the Atlantic, and IIRC actually got his start as a guest-blogger on Sullivan's old site, has declared today in his blog (without naming Sullivan explicitly, but implying it strongly) that he has lost all respect for him. Damn.

http://rossdouthat.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/grand_new_party_sarah_palin_an.php

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 03, 2008 06:46 PM (BWTSB)

33 Gotta hand it to ya, Ace.

When you go off on Sullivan, I get a tingle up my leg.

Best blog EVAH. (Don't tell the Jawas I said that).

Posted by: Good Lt at September 03, 2008 06:46 PM (s9+Zr)

34 Apparently his AIDS has mutated into mad cow disease. A great example where something goes straight from their ass to their brain.

Posted by: Ray at September 03, 2008 06:47 PM (ix3FU)

35 My favorite Sullivan quote of the day: "Jeez, has everyone but me gone insane?"

Hmmm....think on that for a second, Andy. Think on that.

Posted by: Jeff B. at September 03, 2008 06:49 PM (BWTSB)

I rather doubt he's chasing that bug anymore. Judging by his writing, I'd say that's a bug he caught a while ago, what with the dementia and all...

Yeah, I should have said "succesful" bug chaser.

Posted by: thirteen28 at September 03, 2008 06:51 PM (s8N54)

37 #3O, I agree. It is possible that he does not really think about what he writes or says also. If McCain dies a woman I know nothing about might be president!!!! Obama has experience running his campaign!!!!

Posted by: bleh at September 03, 2008 06:51 PM (GNCy6)

38 A great example where something goes straight from their ass to their brain.

That's because having your head up your ass is the intellectual equivalent of the Rusty Trombone. Think vectors, brother.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 03, 2008 06:53 PM (Pvb5b)

39 In my opinion, which I realize is extremely important to all of you as an instrument of God, we should start phrasing this as The Atlantic Continues Peddling Trig Trutherism. That's the truth, and it's most interesting than some moonbat Sullivan acting on his own.

Posted by: Shill at September 03, 2008 06:56 PM (8jYMc)

40 Good Lt.? See me in my office. NOW!

Posted by: Trollhammer at September 03, 2008 06:58 PM (iXM3B)

41 Andi Sullivan diddles little boys.

If it's untrue, he can easily disprove it and I will retract my statement immediately upon receiving such evidence from the perv.

Posted by: grc at September 03, 2008 07:00 PM (PF/ZE)

42 "the atlantic" andrew sullivan

Google, serve a good purpose for once.

Posted by: Christoph at September 03, 2008 07:03 PM (hawOV)

43 Can't we just friggin ignore Andrew? Please??? Seriously -- I don't understand why anybody to the right of Hillary Clinton bothers to read him. If you want to do enemy research, don a hazmat suit and go surfing at DailyKos. And to be politically incorrect about this, why does it surprise anybody a homosexual (or gay or transgendered or whatever the hell they are calling themselves this week) has, you know, emotional problems and has trouble with simple facts and consensus reality? I'm skipping over Sullivan posts from now on, it's just a complete waste of electrons. I come to AoS to get away from endless NRO Corner Andrew Sullivan Obsession -- well, and for the profanity. Absolutely for the profanity.

Posted by: maureenthetemp at September 03, 2008 07:04 PM (KYny9)

I know VDare is pretty dodgy, but they have a theory on Andi.

http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/09/01/andrew-sullivan-and-his-testosterone-fuelled-attacks-on-palin/

Posted by: Holdfast at September 03, 2008 07:05 PM (Gzb30)

Isn't it interesting that the MSM found out who "buckhead" was within days of his post about the Dan Rather forgery; but we still don't know who "arcxix" is?

I think it was Andrew Sullivan. Now prove me wrong.

Posted by: rockmom at September 03, 2008 07:08 PM (iZqUY)

46 Ace,

Andrew stepped on his milky schmegma covered dick in his treatment of this story and he knows it. He knows he took a reputation build by years of work in respectable publications and with one huge heaving squeeze of his glutes, he shit all over it.

His only ability to save face and regain his credibility would be if the campaign deigned to release documents, so he could say:

"THERE! SEE! It was a legitimate concern! They acknowledged it was worth knocking down!"

Posted by: Gonzo at September 03, 2008 07:13 PM (C0McP)

47 but we still don't know who "arcxix" is?

I think it was Andrew Sullivan. Now prove me wrong.

In the "homosexual underworld", as Kevin Bacon put it in "JFK", the term "arcxix" means "the back of Andrew Sullivan's Throat". No shit. Google it!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 03, 2008 07:14 PM (Pvb5b)

48 Since we're on the subject of youthful sexual escapades, I want to know how often young Barry Obama went over to Frank Marshall Davis' place for a "backrub" back in the day.

Why else would a grown man, gay communist poet like Frank Marshall Davis want to hang out with a skinny little Urkel clone?

Obviously, Senator Obama was trading sexual favors in exchange for indoctrination into Marxist ideology and leftist street cred.

Senator Obama: release the documents to prove that you weren't giving blowjobs to an aging communist poet, and then we can all move on.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at September 03, 2008 07:19 PM (YvLui)

49 Amazing that we get musings on pregnancy from somebody who doesn't know how a vagina works.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 03, 2008 07:26 PM (GlrN/)

50 I LOVE YOU, TOO, ACE! You're the only guy who can shoot his man goo on my milky glutes!!

Posted by: McGurk at September 03, 2008 07:30 PM (ajbe7)

51 Can we deport this sleazy cock smuggling assfucker on the grounds that he's a national health risk?
I'd bet if the CDC tracked Andrew's risk-prone activities, he would prove to be a prime vector for the proliferation of STDs, and the link unto the shady underworld of predatory genital parasites.

Posted by: Fritz at September 03, 2008 08:03 PM (zAvxs)

52 I am profoundly disturbed by something that is happening in the political arena involving Andrew Sullivan, Obama, Hillary Clinton , Mrs. Palin, and my friend the Railsplitter (who has posted here before and who shadow-worker I am here at the Loyal Party office), a declared candidate for vice president. The Railsplitter-- it is apparently illegal to mention his proper name in the media-- is the biggest underground rockstar in America, bootleged notoriously, largely by leftists.

This matter has been saturating the internet for sometime and has now boiled over beyond tolerable boundaries.

The Democrats, who are following the rules of Semiotics, which use a signifier to represent the signified in discussion, were using the Railsplitter as the signified, and a woman known to him from college (it is believed that she is fantastically wealthy through ghostwriting popular music) as the other signified.
Obama was the signifier for him and Hillary Clinton was the signifier for her-- Or so at least they convinced those who follow popular culture, particularly the entertainment industry. So the masses of voters were "energized" by this supposed contest between the signified as using Barack Obama and Hillary clinton as "stand-in/front people". The "energized" mass of voters then chose between the two famous people and cast ballots for the supposed contest's front people. Even John McCain accepted those terms, calling Obama (the signifier) "the world's greatest celebrity", which was falling into the Democratic Party's strategist's well-planned trap.
In fact what we expected to happen did in fact happen, that is, that once Obama won the nomination the fakey semiotic definitions were redefined so that the Railsplitter was "represented" by Mrs. Palin and attacked mercilessly-- attacks which were held back until Obama became Obama and the Railsplitter became the vice presidential candidate and attacked using Mrs. Palin as the "stand-in."
Now of course, the Railsplitter is the Railsplitter and Mrs. Palin is Mrs. Palin and any connection between the two is not only a non sequiter, but viciously politically and intellectually dishonest.
I plead that the Republican Community respond to any semiotic linkage of Mrs. Palin and my friend the rockstar with merciless mockery, shaming, and cries of foul politics. Be relentless, as most of the attacks on the railsplitter are completely spurious (he is gay, he is the secret president, he is Michael Jackson, George Bush, Saddam Hussein or the like.) These are all dirty applications of semiotics, taking an innocent person-- a rockstar leading a conceptual party and unwilling star of an internet reality show devised by and managed by Andrew Sullivan (who proper name I will withhold). and holding him to ridicul at the same time as trading in bootlegs of his music compositions.

Fine if they want to mock the Railsplitter-- he's an easy victim/ performance artist-- fine. Like I said, he's been savagely mocked and attacked-by-insinuation under the names Saddam Hussein, Michael Jackson, George Bush, and God alone knows what else. But this has nothing whatsoever to do with the Republican Party. He calls his affiliation Loyal-R, is a Registered Republican, has been a member of the NRCC off and on, and donated $26.50 to John McCain's campaign. And that is the only connection to the Republican Party.

It is egregious sliming of him, but as his shadow I have witnessed the relentlessness of the attacks and humiliations; he and I weather it, let it roll off our rhino-skin backs. It's just his life now-a-days and we view it in terms of anti-competitive business practices.
But to play on his fame to get voters for the Democrats through word-games and media-stoked legerdemain-- AND THEN, after Obama has piggy-backed on his fame, to use his personal flaws to launch a highly co-ordinated and premeditated smear on the McCain/Palin ticket AS IF there were some connection between the two other than dirty pool by the Democratic Leadership and their media and activist tools is so outrageous that it demands a withering counter-attack by Republican bloggers laughing them to scorn.

The whole matter just proves how wicked and scummy Obama, Hillary, and the Democratic activists have become.

Exposure of the dirty, cruel game and disconnection of the semiotics linkages should make the voters disgusted, just disgusted with these con-game Left-wing perpetrators.

Posted by: Squire of Dimness at September 03, 2008 08:04 PM (4gKQm)

Let's pretend for a moment that Sarah faked being pregnant to protect her teenage daughter.

Is it really that big a deal? Really?

Posted by: steve at September 03, 2008 08:08 PM (XWJh5)

54 Here is the email I sent to Andrew when he was still peddling hte story after even KOS had taken it down:

Andrew,

Bristol is five months pregnant now. Trig was born Five months ago. You want the medical records released proving that Sarah Palin is the mother of Trig. I understand that female anatomy is not your strong suit, but as Bristol cannot possibly be the mother of Trig, just who the hell do you think is the mother? Piper? For crying out loud, you were so totally wrong that any sane person would just apologise and move on, yet here you are, throwing more shit against the wall.

No response as of yet

Posted by: Sean at September 03, 2008 08:16 PM (3LifV)

55 #52, wtf

Posted by: bleh at September 03, 2008 08:30 PM (GNCy6)

56 Ted K - But he Is HIV positive and he does have Hepatitis C. Occams razor says, make sure you sterilize me in bleach and wear several layers of nitrile.

( Plus he has some eccentricities of mind before he went supernuts and I said so but nobody ever listens to me.)
He never was what people said he was, way back then. He was always facile, fatuous, shallow, self-absorbed and basically unbearable as far as I was concerned. So I'll give you the stupid part.

Posted by: SarahW at September 03, 2008 08:34 PM (7sl9X)

57 I saw a dude on YouTube convincingly say that Obama sucked him off for a line of coke. So, according to The New Rules, until Obama presents evidence to the contrary, we should all assume that Barack Obama swallows milky loads in exchange for illegal drugs.

Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at September 03, 2008 09:40 PM (QQGzM)

He swallowed some guy's semiotics for a line of coke? I guess that's why they call it "blow".

Posted by: andycanuck at September 04, 2008 12:29 AM (qKkaY)

59 Does anyone know where Sully abodes?

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