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"Liberated Women", MSM Scramble to Reinforce the Glass Ceiling

It would be disastrous if a conservative woman managed to accomplish what they could not. And so we're treated to charmingly sexist articles in the N.Y. Times:

When Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska was introduced as a vice-presidential pick, she was presented as a magnet for female voters, the epitome of everymom appeal.

But since then, as mothers across the country supervise the season’s final water fights and pack book bags, some have voiced the kind of doubts that few male pundits have dared raise on television.

As usual when it comes to any of the -isms embraced by the Left, what would ordinarily be branded a base attack is excused so long as the right credentials are brandished. Here, the writers of this piece (both of them women) are setting up the rest of their article. What follows would be met with the fiercest opprobrium were it to be uttered by a man, but they found bona fide mothers who were willing throw womens' equality away. So it's all chill.

With five children, including an infant with Down syndrome and, as the country learned Monday, a pregnant 17-year-old, Ms. Palin has set off a fierce argument among women about whether there are enough hours in the day for her to take on the vice presidency, and whether she is right to try.

Indeed, with two pre-teen daughters, Mr. Obama has set off a fierce argument about whether there are enough hours in the day for him to take on the presidency, and whether he is even right to try. Oh, wait a minute. He didn't. Huh.

We catch the drift of the article already: perhaps only childless men and women should run for office? Or those whose children are grown? Or given the free pass Mr. Obama got, (and I assure you I'm whispering very softly now) only men?

It’s the Mommy Wars: Special Campaign Edition. But this time the battle lines are drawn inside out, with social conservatives, usually staunch advocates for stay-at-home motherhood, mostly defending her, while some others, including plenty of working mothers, worry that she is taking on too much.

No, it's the War of the Clamoring Fools: Legacy Media Edition. Notice the casual juxtaposition of social conservatives with working mothers. As if the two are mutually exclusive. And as usual, liberals mistake the strawconservative they titter about at parties for the real thing. Social conservatives are staunch protectors of stay-at-home mothers and their prerogatives, but only the most fringe groups advocate forcing mothers to stay home.

In interviews, many women, citing their own difficulties with less demanding jobs, said it would be impossible for Ms. Palin to succeed both at motherhood and in the nation’s second-highest elected position at once.

“You can juggle a BlackBerry and a breast pump in a lot of jobs, but not in the vice presidency,” said Christina Henry de Tessan, a mother of two in Portland, Ore., who supports Mr. Obama.

Many women, including Ms. de Tessan, should thank their lucky stars that better women (and men) stood up for the rights and dreams of mothers. Suddenly, we're hearing a lot of so-called feminists deciding that some things are just too hard for mothers. Can you imagine the exclamation should a man or (worse) a Republican man announce that mothers are simply not up to the job of holding high office? That they should perhaps confine their aspirations to more homey pursuits?

These "many women" interviewed for the story should be slapped with a little 21st Century wisdom. It's like they've never heard of such radical timesavers as disposable diapers, washing machines, and formula. And these things aren't even new! Hell, let's call it 20th Century wisdom. Not to mention, well, the husband. This will shock their dresses off, but mothers can be primary breadwinners now and it really is okay!

Many women expressed incredulity — some of it polite, some angry — that Ms. Palin would pursue the vice presidency given her younger son’s age and condition. Infants with Down syndrome often need special care in the first years of life: extra tests, physical therapy, even surgery.

Hey, another category of people who should be barred from high federal (but not state) office: the parents of special needs children. As if no vice president has ever had family who had medical tests, physical therapy, and (gulp) even. surgery. Hell, it's sounding more and more like we should just keep anyone with any family at all out of high office.

One of the most shameful things about this article is that these anti-motherhood writers claim to be worrying on behalf of Palin and her children. It's not that they're concerned with Palin's performance on the job (what the hell does a VP do, anyway, except break ties and go hunting?). Rather, little Trig might have a rough time of it. How noble they are to be looking out for the interests of the Palins.

I mean this now with all sincerity: these reporters and the women they quoted for the idea that mothers are not suitable for high office should hang their heads in shame. They should hide their faces and pray that their throwback words are soon forgotten. They should beg forgiveness from their sisters and daughters for trying to shackle mothers to their children's cribs. They make me sick.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 04:33 PM



Comments

1 I said this before, but it's probably more appropriate to this post.

WE'LL DESTROY THIS GIRL!  TEAR HER DOWN FOR PAUL!!

Posted by: Wild Eyed Democrat (grieving) at September 02, 2008 04:38 PM (PDeVA)

2 The Clintons wounded feminism, Obama seems intent on finishing it off.

Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 04:39 PM (evdj2)

3 crossposted for truth!

Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 04:39 PM (evdj2)

4 This will very easily and certainly come back to haunt these idiots.

In ten years, this will be easy to bring up as some other woman who has the 'right' politics is nominated.  It's obviously bigotry now, but these women will never be listened to seriously again.

The public hasn't digested this shit because it's huge how much ridiculous hatred Palin has attracted.  If they do realize what's going on, they will lionize her as a hero of what this nation is all about.  The MSM will try hard to hide it, but I think there's plenty of time.

Posted by: Shill at September 02, 2008 04:44 PM (8jYMc)

5 I have to wonder - how are the American Idol mouth-breathers taking all of this? I'm always immured in this politics stuff, so I have no idea how it's playing with regular people. Do they even know about all this crap going on?

Or will they just happen to see a picture of Sarah on the day before the election, and say "Oooh, pretty!" and vote for her?

Anybody talking to people who don't follow this full-time?

Posted by: Jim62sch at September 02, 2008 04:44 PM (ubHgw)

6 What I'd love to see disclosed in all these stories: an explanation of who, say, Christina Henry de Tessan is and how the reporters came to interview her. Did they randomly call people around the country and Christina Henry de Tessan happened to pick up the phone and offer her curiously glib "Blackberry and breast pump" quote?

Posted by: JSinger at September 02, 2008 04:46 PM (EqFh0)

7 Many women expressed incredulity — some of it polite, some angry — that Ms. Palin would pursue the vice presidency given her younger son’s age and condition. Infants with Down syndrome often need special care in the first years of life: extra tests, physical therapy, even surgery.

How can Sarah Palin ever learn to how to be a good surgeon if she's busy being VP, for god's sake?  Time to drop out.

Seriously - here's a question for these fucking hypocrites:  Sarah Palin was elected governor in 2006, and then the sneaky gal turned around and got pregnant again.  I wonder if the Liberal motherhood gang think female candidates should sign a pledge promising not to get pregnant while in office?  Or maybe they should be forced to resign if they do?

Posted by: buzz at September 02, 2008 04:46 PM (kwhut)

8 Unlike most feminazis, Palin has a husband with whom to share domestic chores.

Posted by: erp at September 02, 2008 04:47 PM (BDRHK)

9 Most of the folks I've talked to who don't follow politics 24/7 are just vaguely aware of her, aware that McCain picked a woman and that there may be problems for him with that pick.

It's definitely going to be a PR war.

Posted by: mpur at September 02, 2008 04:48 PM (J9EWQ)

10

Liberal women cannot get their arms around the fact that Sarah Palin actually has FIVE children.  They are so "stressed out" with their one or two that they cannot imagine a mother of five being anything other than a babbling basket case who wears size 22 sweats all day, or some crazy "natalist" like those exotic Duggars on TLC who have 37 children.  I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that there is not a single female writer at the New York Times, or reporter for any television network, who actually knows anyone with five children.  It would be just too bizarre to them.  In their world you are supposed to have your obligatory one or two and spoil the shit out of them and then enjoy the rest of your self-absorbed life. 

I mean, how do you get five kids to the Hamptons?  Who can pay for private school for five kids?  Or tennis lessons? 

 

Posted by: rockmom at September 02, 2008 04:48 PM (iZqUY)

11

Nanny?

Posted by: slickdpdx at September 02, 2008 04:49 PM (RIdwM)

12 I like how it is constantly brought up as Palin's 5 children....as if all 5 are in the 0-10 age range.  No mention that her oldest son is leaving to join the military in a couple of weeks.  Or that, at 17, her oldest daughter is capable of taking care of the majority of her immediate needs even if she is pregnant.  The youngest three (14, 7, and 4months) will require attention, especially Trig, but the constant,

Posted by: Queasy at September 02, 2008 04:51 PM (Cik3y)

13 Any of you from big families?  The teenagers often help out.  It's good for them, and probably why Palin's eldest is joining the army while Biden's servant raised son is a scumbag crook.

Sadly, if Palin were a single mother, she's probably get less flack.  Actually, maybe not, but I know a lot of single mothers who work.

Posted by: Shill at September 02, 2008 04:54 PM (8jYMc)

14 It's because you can't be a feminist and let your kids live.  Haven't you guys learned anything?

Get with the fuckin' program!


/S

K

Posted by: Kestrel at September 02, 2008 04:55 PM (gBnKJ)

15 As a woman, mother, and executive I find this disgusting but not surprising. If you are an attractive woman who also happens to be smart god help you....and it isn't, generally, the men you have to look out for. It's the mustachioed, cankled, bitter, ugly old hags that will get you every time.
 Used to be...once upon a time and not very long ago that everyone knew better than to quote these old bats....but now they are sages quoting the stellar likes of "many women" and "a woman" and "some women"...i am so glad to know they have *real* sources.
 Why not just call these bitter old hags what they are?
 J-E-A-L-O-U-S..............

Posted by: christmasghost at September 02, 2008 04:56 PM (kIX1b)

16 It figures... let's feed the MSM frenzy over Sarah Palin's children, in the hopes that it will end up helping Michelle Obama's children.  Always a class act, NYT.

Posted by: saishutu at September 02, 2008 04:56 PM (f6oCP)

17 (1)..Biden was a single Dad when he went into office. His son is now AG of Delaware. (2) Ms. De Tannen?...where is the supportive Mr. De Tannen?....(3) If Mrs Hutch came home and told me her salary was going to triple and we wouldn't have a mortgage/car/property tax payment, I'd watch the fucking kids.

Posted by: hutch1200 at September 02, 2008 04:57 PM (eHqhb)

18

By running for President, Obama is really reinforcing the stereotype of the absent black father who impregnates and leaves. Also, it would be very sexist and selfish of him to expect Michelle to be housebound, tied to the hearth.

He should do the sensible thing, drop out of the race and set an example. He should do it for the children.

Posted by: Tushar at September 02, 2008 04:57 PM (ZqHH5)

19 Do you notice that the MSM/lefties are concerned about all the Palin children - all except one - the son going to Iraq this month.  Him they do not care about. Him they do not mention. I wonder how many lefties would love to see this young man get killed or seriously wounded?  When you consider what they have said so far about the other Palin children I would not put this past them.  

Posted by: dittybopper at September 02, 2008 04:58 PM (ksr4J)

20

For all the conventional wisdom that there's no way female Hillary voters - i.e. pro-choice - would consider Palin to be worthy of their vote, who can say they won't eventually see enough of the media sexism they perceived targeted at Hillary and just NOT VOTE.  How much "a woman with five kids can't handle high profile gigs" can they swallow before the gag reflex kicks in?

It's not like women are ever petty or vindictive, right?

How long before the ominous spectre of a-heart-beat-away-from-the-presidency Sarah Palin toting the nuclear football while suffering the bloating, cramps, and irritability associated with menstruation rears its head in the media?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 02, 2008 04:59 PM (4ZOxD)

21 Can you imagine how rabid the feminists would be if it came out that McCain had considered Palin but after discovering Palin had a special needs child,  he "thought she should stay at home and take care of her baby"?  Or if Palin was taken off the list of VP candidates because "Palin's daughter is pregers,  and not  married"!

Once again the left has taken the Hollywood caricature of a conservative Christian as fact.  They blew it the same way when they tried to get a rise out of the republican base when they breathlessly announced that "Cheney's daughter is a lesbian!"

I'm just glad to see them screw up yet again.

Posted by: HBob at September 02, 2008 05:02 PM (I0b5H)

22 "....not a single female writer at the New York Times, or reporter for any television network, who actually knows anyone with five children."
 Guess what? My cousin is an editor at the NYT and so she knows my younger sister quite well. Said younger sister has five kids and cancer and still manages to do everything........she makes Martha Stuart blush...really.
 Oh...and she has a job too.
 So guess what? They do actually know better...what a surprise.....

Posted by: christmasghost at September 02, 2008 05:02 PM (kIX1b)

23

It occurs to me why she was in a hurry to leave Dallas when baby Trig came knocking.

She didn't want to give birth to a Texan.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 02, 2008 05:06 PM (kYpqT)

24 It's worse -- she has 5 children and NO NANNY. This truly makes her an extraterrestrial among that class. (All she'd have to do is home school, and their heads would explode.) It cracks me up that she can somehow manage to be a governor with an 80+% approval rating, but she wouldn't be up to the job of VP.

So this is great. We want to break the glass ceiling, but:

(1) If you stay home with your kids, you're ineligible for leadership.

(2) If you don't stay home with your kids (no fair asking your husband to help), you're a bad mother, and therefore ineligible for leadership.

(3) If you don't have any kids, you're weird and ineligible for leadership.

(4) If you wait until your kids are grown, you don't have enough experience for your age, and besides, you're old and no one will want to talk about anything except the fact that you're not very pretty any more.

(5) If you're still pretty, you must be an airhead.

All this assumes, of course, that you're a conservative. If you're demanding daycare for your kids at public expense, then it's all good.

Posted by: Texan99 at September 02, 2008 05:06 PM (CrO2/)

25 Tushar brings up "absent black fathers", and I get called a moby?..Sarc off. BTW ACE, thanks for getting my back on that other thread. The viscious shit I brought up was supposed to be a projection of the shit, WE could bring up if we were as low as donks. Afterward I realized if somebody googled those terms they be led here. My bad, and thanks again.

Posted by: hutch1200 at September 02, 2008 05:10 PM (eHqhb)

26

It is very clear that the Dems are extremely worried about Palin. For them to launch a full- on hate attack such as the one we are witnessing, is proof enough of their extreme discomfort with the VP pick. I thought that I had seen wild straw-grabbing before, but all other examples fade into insignifigance when compared to the efforts of these Dem/Idiots. I believe most of these childish efforts will backfire on the Libs and gather more support for Palin.

Lets hope so..............

Posted by: Snorkel at September 02, 2008 05:10 PM (E+7gr)

27 Why dont we ask the old bags what the limit is on the number of children before a highly qualified, professional woman must stay home?  Similarly, must a woman stay home if she has a child with special needs?  If a woman has had an abortion does that quality her for high office.  If a woman gives birth to a child that an old bag would have aborted, does that disqualify her.  Oh, the irony of it all.  The old bags are bitter and the bile is spilling out all over the MSM.  The more they attack the more most Americans will support McCain/Palin. 

Posted by: gordo at September 02, 2008 05:11 PM (8nB5X)

28

Sarah should just issue the following statement:

"Okay, folks, here's how we'll do it...

1. My husband and younger two daughters will be taking care of Trig while I work - I think the three of them can probably handle it, especially since as VP I'll be making pretty good money and Todd won't have to work.

2. My eldest son will be helping to defend the country.

3. My eldest daughter and her husband will be contributing to the number of sane and happy conservative families.

4. I will be helping to shoulder the load on President McCain, while concentrating on utterly destroying the last shreds of the anti-female bias that you folks clearly suffer from.

Now one family can't do everything, so why don't some of you quit asking what your country can do for you, and ask if your family is doing as much for your country as my family is?  Capice?

And the next fucker that asks me about this is going to get the answer they would give at the AoSHQ - "FYNQ!"

Posted by: sherlock at September 02, 2008 05:12 PM (xqzGc)

29 OT 

Where are the  astro-turfing concern trolls today?  Damage control by the Obama campaign?  Was the an urgent inaction alert?

Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 05:13 PM (evdj2)

30

Sounds as if the NYT is now sourcing from HuffPo.  I work for a woman with four children very similar to Palin.  Her husband has a good job that allows him to take time when he needs it.  They do employ a part-time nanny.  Emergency calls from school, for example, are handled by the parent available at the time.  She picks up and leaves for situations such as this about quarterly.  The department continues to hum along.  Bottom line, she is smart and strong enough to run a major group for a Fortune 200 company, do it well AND take care of business at home as well.  Strangely enough, she's also a conservative.  But, guess the kid count gave that away.

As a professional woman with significant work accountabilities of my own but no children, I for one am impressed.  Corporate dronehood alone can be challenging.  Add a pack of kids to the equation in today's world and the logistics increase exponentially.

Most of the folks discussing this in my world are political junkies and part of my far-flung fascist cell of rock-ribbed Republicans so don't know how the rank and file view the phenomena.

 

Posted by: iowavette at September 02, 2008 05:14 PM (0p4xh)

31

As a woman, mother, and executive I find this disgusting but not surprising. If you are an attractive woman who also happens to be smart god help you....and it isn't, generally, the men you have to look out for. It's the mustachioed, cankled, bitter, ugly old hags that will get you every time.Posted by: christmasghost

Spot on.  Laura Ingraham said it best last night when she is stated that the NOW organization has never been on the side of women....only liberal women that march in lockstep with their agenda.

I'd love to see a firebrand speaker get up at the Republican Convention this week and take this fight head-on and call the hypocrites and liars on what they truly are.  Enough with the polite shit....tell it like it is.

Posted by: Nurse Cheri at September 02, 2008 05:15 PM (cz6lG)

32

Many women expressed incredulity — some of it polite, some angry — that Ms. Palin would pursue the vice presidency given her younger son’s age and condition. Infants with Down syndrome often need special care in the first years of life: extra tests, physical therapy, even surgery.

 

One wonders how deep into the Kos site they had to dig to get this crap.

Of course, Michelle Obama ignoring her kids is proper.

Posted by: drjohn at September 02, 2008 05:15 PM (/0pFc)

33

To: NYT writers (and MSM in general)

Subject: Appreciative note

Just wanted to let you know we're just so touched by your expressions of concern for Trig's health and well-being ...

...whom, y'know, probably would have been aborted if you murdering pseudo-eugenicists would've had a say in it at all ...

...and its not like anyone with half a brain believes a damn word of your platitudinous prevaricating mewling pusillanimity anyways.

Again, eff you very much ...and hope to hear less of you in the near future.

Sincerely,

Posted by: davis,br at September 02, 2008 05:15 PM (zewwG)

34 I guess all women running for office should get free govt. sposored abortions.  That seems like a solution the Dems can get behind.

Posted by: Chopper at September 02, 2008 05:16 PM (WDwH+)

35 "I'd watch the fucking kids."

That's the attitude we're looking for! (As a single dad, I can relate: I'm pretty good at it; I don't especially mind it; but there are a lot of things I'd rather do, most days. On the other hand, it ain't all that tough, really -- but I only have two right now.)

Posted by: notropis at September 02, 2008 05:16 PM (3ffip)

36 For those who believe in identity politics, the politics is always more important than the identity.  This isn't hypocritical to them because she's not actually a woman. 

Posted by: alexthechick at September 02, 2008 05:19 PM (jCGID)

37 And if you really want to know how little these so called concerned "women" know...think about this:
 How many of you could even manage to take care of five kids?
 Forget the mayor and governor stuff...how about the five kids?
 If you think Sarah Palin couldn't make Putin cry you have another think coming........
 I ,for one, am so damn sick and tired of these childless-by-"choice" parasites defining me and other women like me.....
 Screw them.....now it's really war.

Posted by: christmasghost at September 02, 2008 05:23 PM (kIX1b)

38 my wife has a traditional job.  i work out of the home.  all day long i mix work and househusband duties.  i got two kids, two dogs, four cats, four rats (two hairless), and a tank full of countless guppies.  i got two full bathrooms and two half bathrooms, four bedrooms, and a half acre of grass.  everyone gets fed.  the house is clean (in a relative sense).  i do five to seven loads of laundry a week.

i don't mind saying that i do a better job of running this place than my wife could (did).

i don't understand what the libs are talking about with sarah needing to be home.  not only does it run against everything they've been saying for 40 years, it just doesn't add up.  a house and kids needs someone capable.  are they insinuating that her husband is incapable?  that's like a stereotype, ain't it?

it is remarkable to me how much they chase their own tails when it is a pub doing something rather than a dem.

Posted by: clyde_m at September 02, 2008 05:24 PM (XXHuk)

39

I posted this on hot air but I'm reposting it here because I am fucking pissed off.

 

am getting mad. Not just upset but mad. I am getting to the point of being mad as hell and not going to take it anymore.

The baseless attacks on Palin is nothing short of scandalous.

that she was an AIP memeber=false
That she is the grandmother of Trig=false
that she used her power to remove her ex borther in law=false
that she was a ron paul supporter=false
that she was a pat buchannh supporter=false
that she tried to eat hansel and greta=false
that she is a bad mother=false

This is a direct attack on every conservative woman that has raised a family and worked a job in the USA. It is like attacking my sister, my mother, my grandmother. I will NOT LET these attacks go unchampioned.

Chivility on the democratic side is dead. I do not believe it is dead on the REp side. The republician male needs to stand up and defend this lady’s honor. America is better than this.

Posted by: unseen at September 02, 2008 05:26 PM (aVGmX)

40

This overload of mysogyny is not coming from only men - it's other women who are threatened by someone who can break away from the groupthink. By Palin's example, it should be obvious that it does not take a village - it takes a family. If more people adopted that behavior, it would mean buh bye to tax funded social programs and those who have a vested interest in them.

Posted by: Suzette at September 02, 2008 05:27 PM (Dt42Y)

41 Christina Henry de Tessan is an author of walking tour books and self-described expat, assuming the googled Christina is the same as the one interviewed by the NYT, which seems likely.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 02, 2008 05:28 PM (wgLRl)

42 Red Alert!  Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm has two teenagers and a ten-year-old!  And she's a governor!  And she's a she!  How the *&#^ is the NYTimes just standing by and not calling for her to resign?  How has this crisis been allowed to fester for so long?

Posted by: ArrMatey at September 02, 2008 05:28 PM (35LYA)

43 "that she was an AIP memeber=false
That she is the grandmother of Trig=false
that she used her power to remove her ex borther in law=false
that she was a ron paul supporter=false
that she was a pat buchannh supporter=false
that she tried to eat hansel and greta=false
that she is a bad mother=false"

Don't forget
That she wasn't vetted=false
That she's going to quit=totally false

Posted by: someone at September 02, 2008 05:29 PM (2z2WN)

44

The Clintons wounded feminism, Obama seems intent on finishing it off.

I've said this before, but these creatures aren't feminists. They're leftists pretending to be feminists. They stopped being feminists when they decided that motherhood was a dirty word. In contrast, the original feminists embraced motherhood, believing it to be something that made women special, something that should be appeciated and celebrated. The pseudo-feminists, on the other hand, have this perverse idea that only by leaving motherhood behind will they ever attain equality with men.

Posted by: TiredWench at September 02, 2008 05:29 PM (Kx1hM)

45 More SOP from the left.

Now she's the "controversial" VP pick Sarah Palin, and they get to say it every time until election.

Also, they get to use the great anonymous "some" gambit - as in: "Some say Sarah Palin is abandoning her special needs child."

Next is the "try" gambit - everything that Palin does - she's "trying" to do or "attempting" to do. Ex: "Tonight in her speech to the RNC Sarah Palin tried to connect to voters and attempted to clear up the controversy surrounding her nomination."

How many times do we have to see this weak shit before it stops working? Are the memories of the average voters?

Posted by: rinseandspit at September 02, 2008 05:29 PM (ao5cQ)

46 "They make me sick."

Actually, if you read the (mostly Hillary-supporting) feminist blogs, you'll see that you're not the only one.

This line of attack is going to backfire spectacularly.

Posted by: someone at September 02, 2008 05:31 PM (2z2WN)

47

Anyone here watch Project Runway?  Two seasons ago there was a contestant named Laura Bennett who had five kids and found out during the show that she was going to have a sixth.  She also was extremely put together, wore the best clothes of anyone on the show, always had her hair and makeup done perfectly, and when they showed her house it was totally clean and organized.  I worshiped her the entire season. But the bitching about this woman on the blogs was unbelievable.  They called her a Nazi, a psycho, the whole nine yards. 

This is also a gay thing.  Most of the NYT writers are gay. Sarah Palin is a disgusting breeder to them.

Posted by: rockmom at September 02, 2008 05:31 PM (iZqUY)

48

Full scale assault is because the Libs feel that the first black or woman to high office should come from their nest.

Its their destiny and right.  Because they are the party of progressiveness and tolerance and inclusion.  They cannot stand it to going to a woman (in this case) who is an explicit rejection of their "values" and a poster child for the notion that you can be all that libs claim you can be as a woman without actually being .... a LIB.

Hence the shrieking, wailing and rendering of garments.  They will not be denied this milestone.

Posted by: Old Texas Turkey at September 02, 2008 05:31 PM (r/CWb)

49 P. S.  #26 is right on the money.  When the vitriol emanating from HuffPo and Daily Kos overflow with vulgarities, the Republicans must be frightening them.

Posted by: iowavette at September 02, 2008 05:32 PM (0p4xh)

50 Yeesh.

Are the memories of the average voter that short?

Posted by: rinseandspit at September 02, 2008 05:33 PM (ao5cQ)

51

someone

 

Yeah.  I really think this "death of a thousand cuts" stratagy by the left and the media (repeating myself I know)  is not going to work and will backfire.  Palin is a woman and while the left sees no difference, the right does and still will rally around our women if they are threatened.   We believe that our women are more then capable of defending themselves but that does mean we let them.

 

 

Posted by: unseen at September 02, 2008 05:35 PM (aVGmX)

52 Doesn't anyone in the MSM care about how Obama's daughters' lives will be ruined if he becomes President?

Just look at how terribly all those other Whitehouse kids turned out! JFKs kids had to play under desks while dad worked! Chealsea went to college and got a 100+K on graduation! The list of atrocities goes on and on...

Oh, the humanity.

Posted by: Damiano at September 02, 2008 05:35 PM (aSQmq)

53 Well, I mailed my check to Palin for VP this morning.

Posted by: Paladin at September 02, 2008 05:36 PM (AfORa)

54 Gabriel-- you're my hero.

Thank you for writing this.  Every last bit of it.

Posted by: Amy at September 02, 2008 05:37 PM (U0dI+)

55

I've said this before, but these creatures aren't feminists. They're leftists pretending to be feminists. They stopped being feminists when they decided that motherhood was a dirty word. In contrast, the original feminists embraced motherhood, believing it to be something that made women special, something that should be appeciated and celebrated. The pseudo-feminists, on the other hand, have this perverse idea that only by leaving motherhood behind will they ever attain equality with men.

Exactly right.  I have a fantasy of writing a book about this someday.  Feminism and Roe v. Wade are the worst things that ever happened to women.  Men came up with them to force women to give up their real power, which resides in the uterus, and pretend to be men, which they stink at. Women bought it, hook, line, and sinker.  Now in order to get ahead we are supposed to kill our children, or not have them in the first place.

 

Posted by: rockmom at September 02, 2008 05:38 PM (iZqUY)

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Posted by: Austin Obama at September 02, 2008 05:41 PM (zAvxs)

57

Red Alert!  Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm has two teenagers and a ten-year-old!  And she's a governor!  And she's a she!  How the *&#^ is the NYTimes just standing by and not calling for her to resign?  How has this crisis been allowed to fester for so long?

And Granholm was a beauty queen!   And she went to L.A. after college to try to be an actress!!!1!1!1  How the fuck did she get elected????

....oh yeah, she's a Democrat.  What was I thinking????


Posted by: rockmom at September 02, 2008 05:41 PM (iZqUY)

58 Thank you for writing this.  Every last bit of it.

No thanks necessary. I'm still pissed.

My mother raised twins and she was a teacher. My dad's job took him to sea six months out of every year 'til we were 12. So my mom did a half-year every year by herself with two hellions. These women in the article? She would clean their clocks.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 02, 2008 05:43 PM (7oois)

59 You know how many hours a day I have to spend to keep abreast of politics so I can vote and make informed decisions? 

Can a woman watching a kid spend that amount of time without denying the kid the attention they need?  Of course not.

Remove women's right to vote... FOR THE CHILDREN!11!!!!!1eleventy

Or something, I dunno; at least get them out of the workplace and back in the kitchen.  Somebody better make me a sandwich, and get me a juice box... and some vodka.

And quit trying to listen when we're discussing important stuff honey, you've got kids to watch.

So, I'm parroting the worst sexism from a century ago, can I be a progressive liberal now?

Wait, I didn't attack the teenage mother yet did I?   So close...

Posted by: Gekkobear at September 02, 2008 05:44 PM (zmfNx)

60 Many women expressed incredulity — some of it polite, some angry — that Ms. Palin would pursue the vice presidency given her younger son’s age and condition. Infants with Down syndrome often need special care in the first years of life: extra tests, physical therapy, even surgery.

Some Downs babies need sx for a cleft palate and a heart murmur. This is done soon after birth. Her son did not have these defects therefore he did not require surgery.  Yes, he will need physical therapy. I am sure her husband can take him to the P.T. and to any other tests he requires.

An overview of the development of infants with Down syndrome (0-5 years)

I urge people to read this article .  Acting like Downs babies needs are overwhelming is bullshit.   I am very impressed by how the Palin's do not hide baby Trig away let alone kill him.  


Posted by: grc at September 02, 2008 05:45 PM (PF/ZE)

61 I hope Fred brings it all out tonight.  Really goes down the list of BS leveled at Palin is such a short period of time and lets it fester at the forefront of peoples' minds, because it certainly wouldn't be at the forefront of the media's agenda.

Posted by: Z Ryan at September 02, 2008 05:51 PM (PDeVA)

62 The same moonbats who are so concerned about baby Trigs welfare, wanted to chop him up and suck him out and many call him a useless drain on society. So, they can take their false concern and shove it.

Posted by: grc at September 02, 2008 05:51 PM (PF/ZE)

63

Gabriel.

As far as Bristol goes why are the right allowing the left's narriative to stand uncontested?

For instance. How do we know Bristol did not use birth control and it failed.

How do we know Bristol and Levi did not plan this child
How do we know the engagement was not before the they got pregent.
How do we know Bristol and Levi where not modern day Romeo and Julet?

We don’t know but we have just allowed the narriative of the Left to take hold that it was an accident because the Lady did not practice birth control. I know many 17 and 18 year olds that are in love and want to get married. Why are we allowing the media to paint this as a mistake, an accident, a failure of Gov Palin? We do not know the story. there could be a great love story behind this marriage and coming birth. Yet we cede the high moral ground to the leftwards why?

 

I have posted a similar thought on Hot Air also.  I do not think we should let the Left get away with this kind of group think.

Posted by: unseen at September 02, 2008 05:53 PM (aVGmX)

64

And what does this say for Gov. Palin's concern for her family?

 

Lisa Murkowski had to run for re-election to her U.S. Senate seat in her own right during the next general election. Writes Johnson (at pages 88-89; emphasis mine):

In 2004, friends and supporters urged Sarah to challenge Lisa Murkowski. [By then,] Sarah had made a name for herself as a reformer, and supporters thought she had a good chance of winning. So, Sarah approached her family to discuss the possibility. Like all of her decisions, the decision had to be unanimous.

"People don't believe me, but it's true. It had to be a family decision," she said. Todd was up for a move to Washington, D.C. and the girls were on board as well. But son Track, in his early teens, was becoming aware of the contentiousness of a political battle. He valued his privacy, and felt uncomfortable in the limelight. "Track did not want me to run, and he was adamant about it. He had to bless me," Sarah said. "If he had said at the time 'This is great,' I would have done it."

In 2006, however, Frank Murkowski himself was up for re-election as governor. Continues Johnson (at page 91): "This time, when Sarah talked with her family about running, the decision was a unanimous decision to go for it."

http://beldar.blogs.com/beldarblog/2008/09/a-timely-palin.html

 

Do you think Biden got his sons ok before excepting the postion of BHO sat down with his children to get their OK  before running for President?

 

Posted by: unseen at September 02, 2008 05:57 PM (aVGmX)

65

Just wondering:

What would a logically consistent liberal look and sound like?  Yes, I know it's only theoretically possbile, but we can always dream.

Posted by: Circa (insert Year Here) at September 02, 2008 05:58 PM (B+qrE)

66

Circa

Pick any one in an insane asylum. 

Posted by: unseen at September 02, 2008 06:03 PM (aVGmX)

67 As far as Bristol goes why are the right allowing the left's narriative to stand uncontested?

Rope-A-Dope!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 02, 2008 06:16 PM (Ds4I5)

68 In all their years of edumacation (if journalism counts as such), didn't these soft-headed dolts ever get beyond Plymouth Rock and Puritanism?

Thank you, Congregation of the NYTimes, for the nuanced version of the defense of barefoot and pregnant doctrine via the secular church ladies Jodi Cantor and Rachel L. Swarns of the Court of Star Chamber.

Misogyny doesn't look good when it comes from a womyn either, "ladies."

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 02, 2008 06:38 PM (sI5Ho)

69

Feminism and Roe v. Wade are the worst things that ever happened to women.

Yeah, I'm not on board with that at all.

Anyone here watch Project Runway? Two seasons ago there was a contestant named Laura Bennett...I worshiped her the entire season.

That, I can get behind. I luuurved Laura.

Posted by: TiredWench at September 02, 2008 06:44 PM (Kx1hM)

70 I've never sent "fan mail" to a politician before, but I mailed a card to Gov. Sarah Palin and Family, c/o Alaska State Capitol, Juneau AK 99801, today--just to let her know we love her, we're praying for all of them many times a day, hang in there, stand strong, don't let the idiots get you down, we're with you, thank you for giving all of us HOPE for America again, and congratulations on BOTH of the new babies!

I'd encourage anyone else who feels so inspired to do the same.

Palin Power!

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at September 02, 2008 07:04 PM (4eLhB)

71

hutch1200 and Tushar  LOL

Gabriel  BRAVO  BRA Fucking O

Kathy, you want to send Sarah Palin fan mail?  Enclose it with your check for $500 to the RNC.

Posted by: funky chicken at September 02, 2008 07:15 PM (xyyHG)

72

If Palin had one kid and four abortions, the left would be fine with it.

If her daughter quietly aborted the pregnancy, the left would have nothing to say. That's what they were crazy for Jamie-Lynn Spears to do. It's the having a kid that they find repugnant--and the taking of responsibility for one's actions.

Palin's had five kids and obviously cares about their welfare and has had no trouble to date keeping those kids happy and healthy. She also has a highly capable MAN for a husband who can well take care of the three who are at home.

But for the left her biggest crime (apart from being a Republican) is to be successful and dynamic and cool AND a mother as well, and not be whining and complaining about it.

Feminism for the left is about victims. A woman must remain a victim no matter how good a lifestyle she has. (You're a corporate executive? Oh, but you're still a victim--of the glass ceiling!) 

Listen to Michelle. She talks endlessly about women who are stuck at home with a crippled child and not enough social security.

And Michelle is a victim too. She can barely afford a $600 pair of earrings for god's sake.

 

Posted by: Erwin Hussein O'Barry at September 02, 2008 07:38 PM (eepJm)

73

Infants with Down syndrome often need special care in the first years of life: extra tests, physical therapy, even surgery.

Wives dying of cancer often need special care, extra tests, physical therapy, even surgery, and yet the left didn't see that as a problem when they were picking John Edwards for VP last cycle.

Posted by: Average Jen at September 02, 2008 07:45 PM (OINAg)

74 It's my understanding that many of the senior editors at the Times are pole-smoking stool-pushers.

Posted by: Jones at September 02, 2008 08:14 PM (KOkrW)

75

> mustachioed, cankled, bitter, ugly old hags

So basically, N.O.W.

Posted by: Jones at September 02, 2008 08:17 PM (KOkrW)

76 Once upon a time, there were some women called the Harry Dans. After howling and complaining for many years about how they were treated as property by the evil Menbads, they declared their independence. "Finally," said the Harry Dans, "we're not owned. In fact, we are now the owners of the term 'Real Woman'."

Young Sarah stood up and said "Hey, wait a minute--I'm a Real Woman, too!"

"Only we get to decide who is a Real Woman," said the Harry Dans. "Sit down and shut-up, sweetie."

"But you always said 'Listen to the diverse voices of women!'," said young Sarah.

"Sorry. We don't like your Big Hair and your Big Family," said the Harry Dans. "The only thing we like 'big' is government."

"My big family? But you said you were 'For The Children'," said young Sarah.

"Sorry, but we don't like your choices," said the Harry Dans.

"But you said you were 'pro-choice'," said young Sarah.

"Did we say that? Oh, well. Now run along, sweetie--we've got some men to elect!"

But it wasn't
The End.

Posted by: Noel at September 02, 2008 08:23 PM (4gHqM)

77

>Also, they get to use the great anonymous "some" gambit - as in: "Some say Sarah Palin is abandoning her special needs child."

Some say Obama is a Muslim. Some say Michelle Obama is a post-op tranny. Some say Biden died in 1998 and has been physically manipulated by a very talented team of Hollywood puppeteers ever since.

Posted by: Jones at September 02, 2008 08:28 PM (KOkrW)

78 My wife and I got strange looks when we had our third kid, especially since we already had a boy and a girl (why would you want another? what could possibly be the reason unless the first two were the same sex and you were trying for the opposite?)

Hey, we just wanted a third!

My generation had the population "explosion" slammed into us since the 60s. The "appropriate limit" was 2 kids....only religious nuts had more.

Now that I look back, I can see that the pop explosion myth was the original "global warming" type myth .... interestingly, without our self-induced lowered birth rate and 30 million abortions over the past 3 decades there never would have been this population vacuum that sucked in millions of illegal workers.

Can't wait for Palin tonight! Let's Roll!

Posted by: exDemocrat at September 03, 2008 03:05 PM (ALxX7)

79

This isn't about a woman with children getting the VP slot. This is about a woman with conservative Christian values getting the VP slot. If Palin was a liberal secular humanist this wouldn't be an issue regardless of how many children she had or what their "conditions" were. Most of the criticism I see coming from the left revolves aorund the fact that she is a Christian with conservative values. They are just using the children as an excuse to disqualify her from office.

 

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