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Former DNC Chairman Don Fowler Yuks it Up over Gustav Heading for New Orleans

Video intro says it was recorded on a flight following the Democrat Convention in Denver.

"The timing, at least as it appears now, is that it'll be there on Monday. That just demonstrates God is on our side".

You stay classy Democrats.

tip from Gran, in the Gustav thread below

Posted by: Dave In Texas at 09:45 PM



Comments

1 Drudge has it linked in RED.

Game over.

Posted by: EC at August 30, 2008 09:52 PM (j2Tjh)

2 use this in an ad.  destroy this ass, and tie him in with everyone else in the DNC.  Macs put of touch cause he doesn't know how many houses he owns, well FUCK YOU!  At least he doesn't say "everythings cool" about a hurricane bearing down on the US.

Yeah, the RNC is out of touch.

Posted by: jerky at August 30, 2008 09:55 PM (1S8Fh)

3

He certainly shouldn't have said it, but if this was a private conversation, it was inappropriate for another passenger to video it, much less release the video to the Web.

I wouldn't want my private comments (and dumb jokes) secretly recorded and then aired in public. Would you?

Posted by: sauropod at August 30, 2008 10:00 PM (J9J4M)

4 Reuters has up this headline:

McCain, Palin team up as Hurricane Gustav loomsAs though one caused the other.

Posted by: Scout at August 30, 2008 10:01 PM (h/4DY)

5 Whoops, sorry about that.  The editing seemed to get lost when I hit post.

Posted by: Scout at August 30, 2008 10:02 PM (h/4DY)

6

Posted by: Blue hen at August 30, 2008 10:03 PM (vVYJX)

7 Culture of the callous, cruel, cold-blooded Democrats

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 30, 2008 10:03 PM (gYX6T)

8 What a fucking cocksucker.

Keeping the ratings up....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 30, 2008 10:04 PM (ItxWA)

9 re: #3. I'm not a representative of the DNC, I'm not a public figure, and I'm not reveling in the prospect of an impending tragedy for the sole reason that it might discomfit a political opponent.

Besides, media figures are proud of gaining information by deceit and guile.

Posted by: Blue hen at August 30, 2008 10:05 PM (vVYJX)

10 scout, I get so sick of that kind of shit.  Mccain/Palin: women and minorities hardest hit.

But there is a level that the press can still get away with that kind of silliness.  MSNBC crossed it at 600 mph, and the rest of the MSM is in hot pursuit.  It's going to be a well worn punchline by November that every negative thing in the world is Palin's fault.

But Fowler has a point: this hurricane is a huge problem.  We need a good convention to get some momentum going.  Obama's convention was a total dude... is that just a reflection of our nation's attention span?  Does anyone think Mccain can get a huge boost from a convention?  I think it's not unlikely, but I'm pretty unsure.  How much does a convention cost, anyway?  Anyone have a guess?

Posted by: ▄█▀ █■█ █ █▄ █▄ at August 30, 2008 10:06 PM (8jYMc)

11 I wouldn't want my private comments (and dumb jokes) secretly recorded and then aired in public. Would you?

Then don't make stupid, callous jokes in public when you're a major political operative. Self-control isn't as difficult as it sounds.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 30, 2008 10:08 PM (ItxWA)

12

On the way home from Austin this evening I picked up a New Orleans station (yeah, I was looking for the UT game), and they were covering a live press conference with Nagin and other officials.  They're sounding very serious about the thing, no surprise there, stressing mandatory evacuation, transportation availability, etc.

 

One thing he mentioned was pulling most emergency personnel and first responders out too.  Said they only plan to leave a skeleton crew in the city, 50 or so people.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 30, 2008 10:10 PM (eiOZw)

13 Cur beat me to it. 

Posted by: grc at August 30, 2008 10:11 PM (+87Ff)

14

don't make stupid, callous jokes in public when you're a major political operative.

You have a point, but I still think it's unethical to record a conversation between two other people who happen to be sitting in front of you on a plane, and then dump the video onto the Net. Invasion of privacy, you know.

Posted by: sauropod at August 30, 2008 10:13 PM (J9J4M)

15 If God was on their side, Gustav would be hitting Minnesota.

Posted by: pajama momma at August 30, 2008 10:14 PM (f3xJa)

16 Sauropod,

Hey Lizard-brain, a conversation on an airplane loud enough for others to hear is not "private". Probably Fowler is just as stupid as you are though--which just goes to prove that God is on OUR side.

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at August 30, 2008 10:20 PM (qcmxH)

17 sauropod, that's just fucking dumb. You can't invade someone's privacy in a public space.

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2008 10:22 PM (8dVfR)

18 Not the least bit surprising when you consider that way too many Dems were basically cheering for casualties in Iraq before the success of the surge became obvious.

Posted by: pbrown at August 30, 2008 10:27 PM (vxGjP)

19 Meh.

On a "vileness" scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being 'nothing' and 10 being 'the kind of vicious smears we'll soon be hearing about Sarah Palin from the Democrats and their lickspittle parrots in the MSM', this one rates about 2 or 3.

Let's move on. We have other battles to fight.

Posted by: OregonMuse at August 30, 2008 10:28 PM (/GQkp)

20 Hey, I think Sauropod has a point there! This is against our conservative principles.

Posted by: Moby at August 30, 2008 10:46 PM (gi8e6)

21 I agree with moby.

Posted by: Sock puppet at August 30, 2008 10:47 PM (gi8e6)

22

repeat:

Dem's require disaster, bowling ball baby's and exploding feet to win.

We just need those rare and confusing things called, "idea's" and "principles"

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 10:50 PM (ul7te)

23 Gosh, sauropod, I was thinking this was posted by a Dem supporter who found it hilarious.  I mean who else would be sitting between two big-time Dem operatives?

If I google your name can I find you complaining about ethical lapses by Obama?  I mean, he's a Chicago pol, so it shouldn't be too hard *cough*Rezco*cough* to find one.

Posted by: JorgXMcKie at August 30, 2008 10:56 PM (1Sf5X)

24

Don't need to google for a reference on Chicago corruption Jorg.

Jorg?  is that a highjack of the "I am jorg" Youtube vid's?

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 10:59 PM (ul7te)

25

If you are caught being a piece of shit, no method of being caught being a piece of shit is unethical.

They were pieces of shit, and while the person with the camera was "tacky" they weren't nearly as piece of shitty as the piece of shit who was being a piece of shit.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 11:05 PM (ul7te)

26

Maybe he was channelling Michael Moore's dead brain through John Edwards? (Or through John's bastard.)

Posted by: andycanuck at August 30, 2008 11:10 PM (qKkaY)

27 I told my wife earlier this week when the Presstitutes started their so-called coverage of this hurricane tht they sounded quite pleased to think that it might hit Ray Nagin's little city again. Since te Presstitutes are a wholly-owned subsidiary  of the donkeycrat party, this POS DNC punk doesn't surprise me. I'm sure all the donkeycrats are secretly rooting for this to be the storm that kills thousands and uterly destroyes NO.

Sorry Pieces of Sh*it

Posted by: TennDon at August 30, 2008 11:12 PM (TTjg8)

28 Posted at Hot Air:

Really? Do the Dems REALLY want to make jokes about the weather? THIS YEAR? REALLY? Ok. Let’s have it…

Obama had sunny skies for his convention because he hangs out with the Weathermen.

“Hurricane Gustav hit NOLA today with the explosive force of 10 of his closest associate’s nail bombs. Obama had no comment. S. Kurtz is a racist”

Obama said the only way to solve the problem with the weather in NOLA is to drown Chocolate city in federal dollars. “I have no executive experience, but I do know which way the wind is blowin’”

REALLY?


Posted by: Americano at August 30, 2008 11:12 PM (MHmUX)

29

NOTE!!!!!!:

Don't bother watching the sportsvid thing at Hotair.

It's just normal sportscaster stuff, and oomf at all.  Just big hair.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 11:19 PM (ul7te)

30

...Nagin and other officials. They're sounding very serious about the thing, no surprise there, stressing mandatory evacuation, transportation availability, etc.

You know, unlike three years ago.

And Governor Jindal has already asked the Feds to declare the state a disaster area if I'm not mistaken; and there are already National Guardsman at work there.

Hmm. I wonder if the MSM will draw unflattering comparisons this time around to Nagin 1's and Bianco's "efforts" three years ago? Or if they do, oddly enough, just contrast Bush's/FEMA's first time reaction, if they'll praise them for having, at least this time, learned their lessons? Gee, I wonder?

Oh, and don't forget your little red cups to bail out your rescue boats, helpful celebrities.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 30, 2008 11:19 PM (qKkaY)

31

It started wednesday! Rachel Maddow said it EXPLICITLY!!!

This isn't just Mike, it's MSNBC, and Rachel, and Keith, and it took Chris, to say "noone hopes for a bad hurricane."  THAT WAS FUCKING WEDNESDAY!!!

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 11:25 PM (ul7te)

32

a conversation on an airplane loud enough for others to hear is not "private".

I disagree. The two people had no idea their conversation was being recorded. They thought they were talking privately.

Ed Morrissey raises the same concern at HotAir, by the way: 

This also prompts a question of ethics, which all of us should consider carefully. Should private conversations between politicians get videotaped surreptitiously like this?

Guess Ed's a moby too ...

Posted by: sauropod at August 30, 2008 11:42 PM (J9J4M)

33 This is not the Don Fowler I thought I knew.

Somebody wanna get me the keys to the bus?

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 30, 2008 11:45 PM (hlYel)

34

Will Kanye West call out this Old WHITE Guy for laughing at the devastation that is about to befall all the people of LA but for the purposes of Kanye BLACK people?

 

We know he won’t but as I told my husband and it is so true….

 

Democrats don’t care about ANY people they are all about POWER and when they get it they don’t want to lose it and the way they KEEP it is by making large swaths of the electorate beholden to the federal government. 

 

THEY ARE SICK and there is NOTHING Democratic about Democrats.

Posted by: Jaded at August 30, 2008 11:46 PM (yyZu2)

35

I wouldn't want my private comments (and dumb jokes) secretly recorded and then aired in public. Would you?

You're probably right.  However, I'm not someone who anyone cares about.  If , however, I were a high-ranking, or even middle-ranking 'official' in the party that is hoping to win back the White House and I wanted people to believe that my (our) compassion was better that their compassion, I probably should not be such a dumbass and show just how fucking callous and pathetically heartless I am in public.

Posted by: wiserbud at August 30, 2008 11:48 PM (x6oXv)

36

I disagree. The two people had no idea their conversation was being recorded.

They are pol's in the presence of a reporter.

That said, your defense is RETARDED!!!

You can be stalked in your home, on the street, drawing attention to you, maybe attention that can turn violent, but you can't be recorded in the presence of a reporter?

BULLSHIT!

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 11:48 PM (ul7te)

37 I disagree. The two people had no idea their conversation was being recorded.

I'm sure those LAPD officers had no idea their "conversation" with Rodney King was being recorded, either.

Posted by: pbrown at August 30, 2008 11:51 PM (vxGjP)

38

A PRIME example of how bullshit that is.

While I was in, I said to my SNCOIC "Gunny?  is this off the record?"

"Sure pinto, whats up?"

"well, Gunny, You are a piece of shit."

Fury lit his eyes, and he realized what I was doing.

"that Off the record thing never works, pinto, and it won't work with the commander, never do it again."

"Just wanted to be sure."

"Gunny?"

*sigh*"pinto?"

"you know I was just fucking aroud right?"

"I know, but never do that again."

"yes gunny"

 

See, the whole "off the record?" is a REQUEST!  Free use, is free use, public access is public access, the reporter did NOTHING wrong.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 11:51 PM (ul7te)

39

I disagree. The two people had no idea their conversation was being recorded. They thought they were talking privately.

You are in your car, talking on your cell phone,you assume that you are in private.

You are on a plane and you are talking out loud to your seat-mate and you expect the same level of privacy?  Then you are a complete idiot.

Honestly, sauropod, you're attempt to define this conversation as "private" is pathetically lame and weak.  But that is to be expected.

Posted by: wiserbud at August 30, 2008 11:55 PM (x6oXv)

40 If Bush and Cheney can get railroaded for their private exchange referring to "major-league asshole" Clymer (of The Paper That Shall Not Be Named) as a "clymer," then ex-DNC Chairman Don Fowler can be exposed for his apparent glee about Gustav killing people and destroying property and lives... for politics alone (unless he's just a closet racist and hates Blacks and politics are a smokescreen for his inner Klansman, so the devastation is really doing Whitey a favor with "politics" an operative code word [/channeling Kanye West].)

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 31, 2008 12:40 AM (sI5Ho)

41 "...God is on our side."  Would that be "America's side," Fuckface?
What a senile, old, miserable prick.

Posted by: Fritz at August 31, 2008 12:52 AM (zAvxs)

42

If Don Fowler wants to say stupid shit then he should use a fake name, like SlaveDog.

Hell, it works for me.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 31, 2008 01:00 AM (6Gy0q)

43 Palin GOP VP Pick, Democrats Hardest Hit

Posted by: Merovign at August 31, 2008 01:23 AM (UXoQt)

44 Fritz @ 41 above has it exactly right.
I'm on the side of America.
And I think America will do better with a Palin vice presidency.
(Oh, and McCain as president, if that's the way it has to be.)

Fuck Don Fowler in his stupid fucking ass hole.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at August 31, 2008 01:46 AM (14k+t)

45 On behalf of AoSHQ, I would like to rebut this Democrat douchebag after the style of Samuel L. Jackson.

"Oh, so you think this the hurricane hitting New Orleans during the Republican convention is divine intervention, and that makes you laugh, right? Yeah, that's funny, ha, ha, HA!! Those are all YOUR voters getting drowned in New Orleans, motherfucker!! How do you like that funny shit, man!"


Posted by: exdem13 at August 31, 2008 02:01 AM (fenBi)

46 He certainly shouldn't have said it, but if this was a private conversation, it was inappropriate for another passenger to video it, much less release the video to the Web.

I respect the intent to keep to the high road, but there is nothing immoral in recording Fowler's comments and disseminating them.

For one thing, Fowler had no reasonable expectation of privacy here. For another, he is certainly sophisticated enough to understand that anything he says in public is subject to recording and publication. Finally, he had to realize that others in the plane could hear his comments.

This is not tiddly-winks we're playing here. We're in a fight for the future of our country. This is no time to get squeamish about lobbing a grenade or two.

Posted by: Smith Ballew at August 31, 2008 03:59 AM (yJXTo)

47 I thought Dems didn't believe in God. Just us stupid conservatives 'clinging to our bibles and our guns'.

Posted by: Rick In Mass at August 31, 2008 07:13 AM (3MA2U)

48

Run this as an ad-

Narration-"It's one thing if Micheal Moore says it, but a former Chairman of the DNC"?

But you need to run it now, not later.

Posted by: jjshaka at August 31, 2008 08:53 AM (49C/L)

49

Pinto, jorgxmckie is a reference to a character by Frank Herbert in a few non-Dune books I think. The best one is "The Dosadi Experiment".

McKie is a sabateur extraordinaire. One of his jobs is to bring down gov'ts that get too competent. His best friend is a star.

Posted by: Veeshir at August 31, 2008 09:57 AM (ThMnZ)

50 A professor in a grad school once responded to the question,
"How do you know if somebody's really crazy?"

"They make me feel a little crazy," he said.

This is the second time in a week (First because of Michael Moore) and now because of this guy who stole from Michael Moore that I started wondering if I needed a thorazine drip.

The bottom line is this is a perfect anecdote for the ticket: no really no ideas (he palmed the line from Moore for God's sake) and hypocrisy: mock evangelicals for their beliefs but suggest there is a partison God who has a stake in the out come of this election.

At this rate of escalating stupidity, by election day we'll be seeing smuggled clips of Obama attending "Flat Earth Society" meetings.

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