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| The Seven Million Dollar WomanSeven million since she was named VP candidate, as disgruntled Republicans find themselves pleasantly gruntled. Thinking about donating? Better do it fast -- he can only accept donations through accepting the nomination Thursday. So if you're a-gonna do it, do it soon. Even Sooner Than That? The Bronze says he thought the cutoff was tomorrow. I don't know. I'll write someone at camp McCain to find out.Comments1
Really?
I guess bat-shit crazy "jim" was wrong. Wow, no, really. "jim" left this turd lastnigh in another thread: Sarah Palin is JUST the candidate you can expect to see chosen by someone in their 70s who's on Ambien ... the one comment I've heard so far from a native Alaskan is that McCain's just given Obama a really nice election-day present: the election. Better hope that investigation of her comes out the right way (ah, who am I kidding here - as if it's even possible for her to get busted at this point via the jerry-rigged Pachinko machine that is the Bush DOJ). " - most of us on the right are rather more realistic about our strengths and weaknesses, virtues and flaws, and aren't terrified at the notion of publicly acknowledging them, and even giving others a small chuckle in doing so." ROTFLMAO See Bush's answer to "what's your biggest mistake as President" for details. Yep, that diabolical secret weapon the Miss Alaska runner-up is REALLY making the left go batshit - they're so terrified they STILL haven't stopped laughing with glee YET, all these hours later. It reeks so hard of desperation that it ALMOST makes me feel sorry for the old duffer. Someone's pointed out that Johnny Wet-Start chose someone even shorter than he is - no minor feat in its own right - so I'm sure with a sound mature criterion like that, the GOP has this thing in the bag now. Funny thing: Palin did an MTV interview earlier this year in which she praised Romney & Ron Paul (!!!), but not McCain. The mystery deepens ... Saying that governorship of a state that borders Canada constitutes "foreign-policy experience" or that being the nominal head of the Alaska National Guard renders her an executive whiz = PURE COMEDY GOLD. The VP debates are going to be like Bambi Versus Godzilla - oh my my, this is going to be sooooo hilarious. PS: all the wingnut hissy-fit action over the Dems having Greco-Roman style columns as a backdrop has been a real hoot too, given that your man-child C-in-C used the exact same backdrop in 2004 for HIS campaign ... oops, your fail is showing again. Posted by: Bart at August 30, 2008 07:16 PM (VDuLh) Posted by: Bart at August 30, 2008 07:17 PM (VDuLh) 3
I ordered my McCain/Palin bumper sticker and yard sign yesterday.
Posted by: mpur at August 30, 2008 07:21 PM (/4i8f) Posted by: sears poncho at August 30, 2008 07:25 PM (KI0wm) 5
I heard somewhere on line that the cut-off for donations was the 31st (tomorrow). Can anyone confirm the correct date? Posted by: thebronze at August 30, 2008 07:30 PM (YlH3h) 6
Got my $100 in yesterday, cut into my monthly gun/ammo budget to do so. First time I've donated to a POTUS candidate since '92.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 30, 2008 07:30 PM (ItxWA) 7
Somebody check crazy jim's ip he sounds an awful lot like David Frum and the rest of today's all stars over at the Corner. Really, are there any small government fiscally conservative anti-corruption Republicans the Republican Intelligentsia will support? I thought that was what the Republican party was supposed to be about.
Posted by: The Obvious at August 30, 2008 07:32 PM (1g+FW) 8
First time I have even given to a candidate. Hot chick with guns.... sign me up!
End the corruption in Washington! Posted by: Derek at August 30, 2008 07:35 PM (IH5iA) Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 30, 2008 07:36 PM (wgLRl) 10
Wow, monica is doing something that Elinor can't. Speek articulatly without tripping over talking points, because monica actually likes and knows who palin is, rather than elinor, who needs a teleprompter to say anything other than "LET ME SPEAK!" in a voice that only dogs can hear. Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 07:37 PM (ul7te) 11
So, what happens after the deadline? McCain has to rely on government financing and Obama can still get private contributions and spend his ass off? Isn't having the cut off before the RNC unfair since people will give more during and right after the RNC?
Posted by: grc at August 30, 2008 07:40 PM (+87Ff) 12
If the NRO wants women to join its party maybe it shouldln't act scared of them and stuff.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDQ5ZmE5NjU4MmRlOWUyZjM0MTBlYWY2NWEwZDczNjg= Posted by: The Obvious at August 30, 2008 07:43 PM (1g+FW) 13
I love that canard that Obama's stage was both the grandest and largest in history, and also exactly the same as Bush's.
While it clearly was unoriginal in design, borrowing the general concept of Bush's, they made it far larger and more ridiculous. There's just no comparison. Also, they clearly toned this set down considerably after it was lampooned. Did the podium rise? Nope, even though this was an advertised feature. I assume this was meant for Obama's use, but I guess the janitor appreciated being able to lower it before sweeping the floor. Did we see the fake Air Force One rise from wherever for Obama to embark on? Nope, even though they must have paid a fortune for it and never used it. Those windows between the columns, where they in the 3d designs Obama's people showed us leading up to the event? No, they were added later. I assume the entire set, as ridiculous as it was, actually was a drastically understated stage. That said, it was a awesome looking set and I don't see any real problem with it, aside from the Obama campaign having no strength about them on this issue. It's pretty tone deaf, but if Obama wants to look like a rock star, that's up to him at his point. Sarah is an everyman, having done all kinds of cool jobs. She fished, she worked in a union, she was a sportscaster, she fought for her community instead of heading to DC to glam on the lobbyists. She's a hugely successful governor in a state she cleaned of much corruption, but it's true, she's only done that for 20 months. I have a friend on facebook saying Palin is a "HUGE step back for women's rights". Because women who excell must agree with abortion rights, or they aren't really women. Just like Clarence Thomas and Colin Powell are house negros. At some point, people are going to realize that liberal minorities and women do not have to be liberals to be great people. They can be members of the party of Martin Luther King, Lincoln, and the Civil Rights Act. I don't know if the rapid attacks are really a sign that the left is freaking out over Palin being a threat. I think the entire Obama campaign, all the way to the netroots level, is shocked that Mccain is in a statistical tie just after teh dem election gave Obama a mere couple of points. Had Mccain picked Pawlenty, I'm sure we'd be hearing the same talking points about foreign policy experience, and seeing the same sex scandal stories about his kids, and the viciousness would be at the same level. Even Joe Leiberman, the most liberal of possibilities, would have drawn fury. We all know it. I think the left was ready to have a punching bag, no matter who it was, because they are tired of losing this election over and over again, and think it's a real possibility again. They can't really attack Mccain much, because he's scandal free and can always pull that POW card when his integrity is attacked (the left hates that he keeps doing this, but they are the ones attacking his integrity repeatedly... ). Palin is perfect if you expected your VP choice to be disgustingly attacked. She's so easy to identify with if you ever worked hard for a living, ever got so mad at the corrupt idiots running your town that you wanted to run for mayor and clean house, even if you had to fight against the well heeled. She's easy to idnetify with if you love kids, and hate the idea of aborting sickly fetuses for convenience. She's easy to identify with if you know an intelligent confident woman you admire. She's all those people we all know, and for most Americans, I think she reminds us of our idealized self. She those attacks on her kids are attacks on our kids. And those attacks on her are attacks on us. Mccain is laying off asking Obama to take responsibility for his staff and party. He condemned many attacks on Obama, notably that Wright scandal. This give Mccain the chance to say "Remember that Wright scandal, where I condemned those who attacked you for worshiping for 20 years under a sermond of 'God Damn America, Jews, etc. and the CIA made AIDS!"? Well, why are you tolerating these attacks on Palin? I really am looking forward to the polls next week. Obama doesn't have the experience to know how to fight for an election. It's never worked for him. As soon as he and Clinton started really fighting, Obama stopped winning vote tallies and had to rely on caucuses. He's not a smart politician. Posted by: ▄█▀ █■█ █ █▄ █▄ at August 30, 2008 07:43 PM (8jYMc) Posted by: davis,br at August 30, 2008 07:46 PM (zewwG) 15
I donated! First time donating to ANY kind of political campaign! The 'bots are getting SHRILL. I ♥ SARAHCUDA Posted by: kal at August 30, 2008 07:46 PM (AhSdy) 16
Little know facts about Sarah Palin, #289: When Dick Cheney got the word, he SMILED.
Posted by: Uh, Clem at August 30, 2008 07:47 PM (CNAh+) 17
grc, it's a fair rule because Mccain was aware of it when he agreed to use the people's money for his campaign. But you can still give Mccain money at any time, even after the election. Mccain just can't ask for money.
And keep in mind, the DNC is not taking in cash because Obama is interfering with their fund raising efforts. That's money the dems need for tough races all around the country. The GOP is flush with cash. Obama was predicitng to be raising more than double what he is, thanks largely to PUMAs, and if that's the case, he's going to have to split his efforts between fund raising and vote raising, while Mccain only has to fight for votes, and will have enough cash to compete anyway. Had Obama raised the 400 million he wanted, he'd look like a genius. Since he's spending more money than he's taking in, and not gaining in the polls, his tactic is not looking so good. The dems are benefiting from crooked bundlers, but it's just not enough. I think the GOP has been hesitant to donate, and Palin is going to help with people who aren't tapped out yet. And I expect a few close races around the country to be decided by advertisments, and that should help a bit in Congress (though I don't think we'll win either house). Posted by: ▄█▀ █■█ █ █▄ █▄ at August 30, 2008 07:49 PM (8jYMc) 18
I'm another first-time donor to any campaign.
Posted by: cranky-d at August 30, 2008 07:55 PM (yKCvR) 19
First time I've ever donated money to a campaign.
Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2008 08:00 PM (q177U) Posted by: thebronze at August 30, 2008 08:02 PM (YlH3h) 21
I donated today, too--first time for a presidential campaign. I'm glad to be a bit of the $7,000,000.
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at August 30, 2008 08:04 PM (L7Qdp) 22
If the deadline for donations is McCain's formal acceptance of the nomination, and the convention is postponed because of the hurricane, they can really cash in.
Posted by: Stephen Macklin at August 30, 2008 08:04 PM (R7LgM) 23
Hey, did anyone see Biden and McCain speaking today at their campaign rally? I was watching on CNN an hour and a bit ago, and Biden said the "battalion" gaffe again right in front of Obama.
Posted by: Christoph at August 30, 2008 08:04 PM (hawOV) 24
Biden and Obama, I mean, of course. I'd watched McCain and Palin earlier.
Posted by: Christoph at August 30, 2008 08:05 PM (hawOV) 25
I'm going to put a huge McCain/Palin sign on my roof!
BTW, I just heard a quote form a spokesman for the DNC. He claims that the timing of Hurricane Gustav during the Republican convention proves 'that God is on our side.' Posted by: 8starsnorth at August 30, 2008 08:07 PM (wLqv4) 26
If the deadline for donations is McCain's formal acceptance of the nomination, and the convention is postponed because of the hurricane, they can really cash in. If Gustav hits, McCain's Campaign is floating the idea of defering donations to the campaign and rather to any of the Non-proffits that will support the relief efforts that might be required in the aftermath of gustav. Insty has a link. Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 08:08 PM (ul7te) 27
I also donated to a political campaign for the first time today. McCain made an excellent choice. Sarah rocks!
I also made a donation to the Red Cross to help with Hurricane Gustav relief. Hey! Donating is fun! Posted by: Mary at August 30, 2008 08:12 PM (Sjmhj) 28
Mary, I just looked at my wallet. Donating, is NOT fun, it's Gratifying, but most definately not fun. Btw, If I could find a way to paypal 2 pieces of lint, and a phone number from a fat chick, I'll do it in an instant. Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 08:18 PM (ul7te) 29
Did anyone catch Biden and Obama's speeches in Dublin, Ohio today? Biden seemed a bit tipsy, slurring his words. Had he been drinking? Oh well, maybe the thought of going up against Palin in upcoming debates has him turning to the bottle for some "liquid courage." No doubt he's going to need it...and then some. Just in the past 24 hours, I have formed the opinion that this woman is going to change American politics in a way we haven't seen since JFK in the early sixties. She is that inspiring! Mother of five, pro-life, NRA member, son in the military soon to be serving in Iraq, ethical, a corruption fighter, an accomplished politician...this list goes on. Just listening to her life story, what she has accomplished in her life just to date (at 44!), has this cynical political junkie raising my eyebrows. I didn't think anyone in politics at this stage of the game could do that for me, but for the first time I actually am going to donate money to McCain's campaign and am actually considering volunteering in the campaign to make sure that she gets the chance to become vice-president of this country. Then, when that happens, I would like to go to Washington, D.C. and meet her, if only for a moment, to shake her hand and tell her "thank you" for restoring my confidence that there are actually some good people left in politics who have the best interests of America at heart. Yeah, I know. It will have to be under the circumstances of having John McCain as president, a man who I have never been enthused about, but that's just the way this cookie has crumbled. I have worked for the federal government for some years now, and I interview people for a living, judging credibility on a daily basis. I like to believe that I am a pretty good judge of sincerity, and have no time for bullsh*t. Sarah Palin is the real deal, and people just know that sort of thing when the see it. That is precisely the reason she is going to raise a fortune for the campaign, and inspire countless thousands to have a new view of our government and start asking themselves, "what can I do for my country? What can I do to take my country where I want to see it go?" She is a leader by example, and I salute her for that. I didn't give money before because I haven't seen anyone I thought was worthing of spending any of my hard earned dollars. Palin has changed that literally overnight, and from the reaction around the intertubes, I am not alone.Where can I get a bumper sticker: POW/WOW.
Posted by: JayC at August 30, 2008 08:19 PM (2QNPB) Posted by: easy at August 30, 2008 08:22 PM (tgdyh) 31
"a way to paypal 2 pieces of lint, and a phone number from a fat chick"
You could go e-bay, at least for the number, then donate the profits.... And if the pieces of lint bear a striking resemblance to Obama and Biden, just think what you could raise. Posted by: notropis at August 30, 2008 08:24 PM (PBXw3) 32
Criminy Jay C, First, good opinions, but that was the most dificult thing I've read in more than a year, and the last thing that was that hard to read, was authored by me! Did all your formatting fall apart? cuz damn near. . . .OUCH! Goddess of the Classroom! Hey! How doing, been about 16 months, all my fault. How things? Anything new on the AZ educational 911 format? Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 08:27 PM (ul7te) 33
NRO and women conservatives... hmm, I wonder if Ted Stevens is getting ready to do a regular column there. Sounds like he's a fine fit.
Posted by: George Orwell at August 30, 2008 08:28 PM (AZGON) Posted by: George Orwell at August 30, 2008 08:29 PM (AZGON) 35
The McCain campaign really needs to get the correct deadlines for donatations out in the blog world. Confusion is not good. Hope Ace is able to get hold of someone there and post it. Posted by: This&That at August 30, 2008 08:29 PM (2PwTK) 36
Shill: No, it's not a fair rule in that the cut off date hurts him whether he agreed to it or not. You have a nasty habit of always missing the point. And knock off the fucking patronizing lectures.
Posted by: grc at August 30, 2008 08:31 PM (+87Ff) 37
"Did anyone catch Biden and Obama's speeches in Dublin, Ohio today?
Biden seemed a bit tipsy, slurring his words. Had he been drinking?"
JayC, yeah I caught it and he didn't look good. As I noted above, Biden made THE SAME mistake he did at his acceptance speech where he confused battalions with brigades. The day before, in Scranton, PA, he looked and sounded off. He did have a brain aneurysm once, remember. Unfortunately. Or he might have been drinking. I don't know. Or maybe he's always like that. Does anyone have video of the Dublin, OH speech especially the Biden Battalion/Brigade gaffe? Posted by: Christoph at August 30, 2008 08:32 PM (hawOV) 38
And Rick Brookheiser over at NRO says:
"Reader after reader said that the base was now energized. You would have thought the base was energized by being in a war. If not, perhaps we need a new base.... You might call [the enthusiasm over the pick] mystical and childish." Those are the sorts of wishes that tend to self-fulfill. Don't know exactly where they intend to dig up that base from, but I guess that's a minor concern. I'll start worrying about mystical and childish when I see the Palin/Unicorn posters. Enthusiasm over pro-second-amendment, pro-drilling, pro-business, pro-life, anti-corruption, anti-pork candidates didn't used to be considered "mystical and childish" by the magazine of Bill Buckley. Posted by: notropis at August 30, 2008 08:32 PM (PBXw3) 39
Hear, hear, notropis!
And why the hell should being in a war "energize" the base? That don't sound healthy. I'm sure Eisenhower would disagree with that thinking. Posted by: Christoph at August 30, 2008 08:34 PM (hawOV) Posted by: marbles at August 30, 2008 08:35 PM (c3H+i) 41
NRO and women conservatives... hmm, I wonder if Ted Stevens is getting ready to do a regular column there. Sounds like he's a fine fit. Karl Rove is hated because he knows that the people least qualified to judge the attitudes of the people are people who spend their entire lives in politics. NRO is just speeking political sense, which is, nonsense. People don't get into the battlground bullshit, People don't care about dingle norwood, they don't care about shills on the media prosceletizing, they care about the individual, and the individual they care about most is who they are gonna vote for. Political science isn't a science, it's a self righteous arrogance that gives you an opportunity to make a lot of money while feeling smarter than everyone else. Good thing Barone, and Krauthammer are just people with opinions, (even though barone is a wonk) otherwise, noone would vote. Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 08:37 PM (ul7te) 42
"Beginning September 1st, we will be limited in the amount of money we can spend in this election and Senator Obama will be able to spend whatever he wants to defeat me. That's why your immediate contribution of $25, $50, $100, $250, $500, $1,000 or even $2,300 is so important to winning this campaign.
My friends, I have made many promises during this campaign - promises I intend to keep. First and foremost, I promise to put our country first, before my own self interest. I have put my country first throughout my entire life. I owe America more than she has ever owed me. I am honored to have a career of service to my country and I would be honored to continue my service as the next President of the United States. Your support is critical now more than ever and I sincerely hope you decide to join my campaign today with a generous contribution before our deadline on August 31st. Thank you. Sincerely, John McCain" --Aug. 15 email I mailed mine in today. Posted by: Noel at August 30, 2008 08:39 PM (4gHqM) 43
Donated. A lib buddy of mine called me to bust my chops about Palin, I pointed out that she's more of a man skillz-wise than either Biden or Obama. Sarah Palin, She can bring home the Moose-Bacon, fry it up in a pan. and never, ever let you forget you're all chubbed up. - I mean, damn, Palin runs marathons. She could do the vice presidential debate on a frickin' treadmill set to 8mph and still kick Biden's ass. - Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 30, 2008 08:40 PM (NnAGL) 44
Very true, Mr. Pinto the Wicked. This is why you are both magnificent bastards! And if the crew at NRO doesn't think seeing legions of people, on the web and elsewhere, donating a cool $7m since Friday is a good thing... if these self-proclaimed conservatives, find a little joy in what McCain has done by choosing Palin, I'm starting to think they ought to hire Linc Chaffee as Editor in Chief. Now that's a mature, seasoned way to win in politics.
If win=lose. Posted by: George Orwell at August 30, 2008 08:45 PM (AZGON) 45
I just had to make a donation to McCain/Palin. First time making a donation to a political campaign. I'm a medical student with a bunch of student loans. Unlike the Obamas, I don't complain about the burden of repaying student loans. I'm just grateful that there are actually low interest loans available to support my education Would've been more excited about Romney as VP, but Palin gets me excited in other ways as well.
Posted by: perineumpirate at August 30, 2008 08:46 PM (rKSJ1) 46
What are the odds that I can ACTUALLY put two pieces of lint, and one phone number from a fat chick up for bid at E-bay, with a starting bid of like 250 bucks, so that I can donate to McCain, that they would sell? I totaly should have thought of this earlier. Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 08:50 PM (ul7te) 47
Can I donate something other than money to Mrs. Palin?
I'm talking aboot my old clothes. I don't want to throw them away! Posted by: Chorizo con Huevos at August 30, 2008 08:53 PM (aRRWd) 48
Palin interviewed on CNBC. Talks energy policy and ANWAR.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=836304396 Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at August 30, 2008 08:57 PM (nuuDA) 49
Stupid Question -
Are donations (even now) going to be doubled? At minimum, that would mean we're talking about +$14 mil. Posted by: AD at August 30, 2008 08:57 PM (PeYVg) 50
The Corner has always had a Beltway sissy streak.
"Whaaaaaa! How is this gonna look to the cocktail set? " I am giddy, freaking giddy! For a McCain ticket! I have gone on a Palin Internet binge and I can't do anything but click on the next hit of awesomeness. I mean she hunts, shoots, runs marathons, fishes, played basketball, married to a HOT deadliest catch 1st dude, has 5 kids, one with Down's, walks the prolife walk, NRA member for life, etc. It is almost more than I can take. My husband is laughing at me furiously clicking and spouting fun Sarah facts at him since I heard. Posted by: Stormy70 at August 30, 2008 09:02 PM (Y+o71) 51
The guys at powerlineblog are kind of "meh" on Palin, too, which surprised me.
But, in their case, I think it's mostly because they're disappointed that their own governor, Tim Pawlenty, didn't get picked. Posted by: OregonMuse at August 30, 2008 09:06 PM (/GQkp) 52
It is almost more than I can take. My husband is laughing at me furiously clicking and spouting fun Sarah facts at him since I heard. That summary just made me ejaculate, and it didn't even include a link to a pic, and you didn't even mention that she's Hot! Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 09:07 PM (ul7te) 53
Ooooooh, when do the anti-repub Rush limbaugh said "watch a woman age in the whitehouse" attacks begin?
Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 09:07 PM (ul7te) 54
This broad ain't no dumb ass..........
Sarah Palin on Charlie Rose Oct 2007 (with some other bull dyke). http://www.charlierose.com/guests/sarah-palin Posted by: your name here at August 30, 2008 09:10 PM (PfmeB) 55
Well, I just donated, didn't send check because I was worried I would miss the dead line. Maxed out boys! Rich is good, $2300 on Sarah! Moron's for VPILF! Kemp Posted by: kempermanx at August 30, 2008 09:11 PM (2+9Yx) 56
And Rick Brookheiser over at NRO says:
This fellow wakes up every few weeks, injects some vague and esoteric non sequitor into a discussion, and then goes back to whatever planet he's living on these days. If he has any useful ideas, he won't condescend to bestow them on mere blog readers. Posted by: lmg at August 30, 2008 09:17 PM (A/vgC) 57
My husband's reference to McCain/Palin: McBabe
Posted by: 8starsnorth at August 30, 2008 09:19 PM (wLqv4) 58
I see Instapundit is being his usual passive aggressive self against the Sarah Palin VP pick. I guess she is not a coed, and thus below his notice.
Posted by: Stormy70 at August 30, 2008 09:19 PM (Y+o71) 59
Excuse me, NRO your elitism is showing.
Screw you if you can't understand why "the base" is energized by someone like Palin. Do a little research assholes. Rush has already said that Palin is someone he would love to see age in the white house. Posted by: mare at August 30, 2008 09:22 PM (xMkst) 60
Ace;
It is too late to get a postmark, so only online or maybe phone contributions [(866) 775-2008] are still viable until midnight (?) Sunday I suppose. The fact is, if you want to reward Maverick for picking a true-blue conservative woman who represents the Republican future, or if you're just grateful he didn't pick an illegal alien, or if you have a soft spot for old sailors, or if you want Sarah Palin to owe you a favor, or even if you just want to stop the Statism on Steroids that is the Democrat ticket, you have only 30 hours--or less--to contribute to McCain/Palin 2008! Posted by: Noel at August 30, 2008 09:23 PM (4gHqM) 61
Thats not fair stormy, The instawife is HOT! and the instawife is "ecstatic," with this decision.
Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 09:27 PM (ul7te) 62
The interesting thing is how out of touch Republican pundits are with actual Republican voters. They seem to be able to parrot MSM talking points at the drop of a hat, though, don't they?
Posted by: The Obvious at August 30, 2008 09:27 PM (1g+FW) 63
Hey, how about a Palin/Steele ticket in 2012
Posted by: spypeach at August 30, 2008 09:28 PM (pqvu2) 64
IP isn't really a Republican. And he probably ain't going to vote for Obama. Doesn't much matter what he thinks. It's what Republicans do. Some are saying Palin will help Hillary voters rationalize voting for Obama. If my family is any indication that's pretty out of touch as well. The women in it seem to be watching very closely to see how Republicans treat Palin before they decide how they'll vote. We'll see.
Posted by: The Obvious at August 30, 2008 09:31 PM (1g+FW) 65
I have donated my fail to Saracuda.
Posted by: SlaveDog at August 30, 2008 09:32 PM (6Gy0q) 66
The Obvious, I also hope they are watching to see if palin can actually be the things her biography suggests. I BELIEVE! she can, but I won't judge, I'm going McCain anyways, because I don't like the idea of a president who hates his own nation, unless he is in charge. Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 09:32 PM (ul7te) 67
62 The interesting thing is how out of touch Republican pundits are with actual Republican voters. They seem to be able to parrot MSM talking points at the drop of a hat, though, don't they? Sour grapes because their boys didn't get picked. They need to get over it or shut the fuck up. Posted by: easy at August 30, 2008 09:34 PM (tgdyh) 68
In lieu of Brookhiser and the set in the Corner, I nominate <a href="http://www.coalitionoftheswilling.net/archives/2008/08/a_note_concerni.html">this post by my dear friend Tree-Hugging Sister</a> (and no, she's not the lefty that that moniker might suggest to some).
Posted by: Dave J at August 30, 2008 09:35 PM (qsGH+) 69
They are confident she can. They're concerned that the Repubs are going to treat her the way the Dems treated Hillary Clinton.. The Corner ain't helping. But you know, the Corner rarely actually helps Republicans.
Posted by: The Obvious at August 30, 2008 09:36 PM (1g+FW) 70
I'm going to vote for McCain as well. And would have probably no matter who he picked. The other side bothers me that much. I really like this woman though. We'll see.
Posted by: The Obvious at August 30, 2008 09:38 PM (1g+FW) 71
grc,
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Posted by: joan at August 30, 2008 09:49 PM (DqJGH) Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 09:50 PM (ul7te) 77
Let's not forget that 1994 Al Gore talked about "political contributions from "the extra-chromosome right wing." " So, Al, how do you like us now?
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I mean not really a Republican in that IP is not a Republican. He's not a member of the party, period. He happens to agree with Republicans on some of issues right now, but that's about it. I don't thnk any one outside of the Dialy Kos considers him a Republican blogger, even him. He could shout Palin's names from the roof tops that wouldn't hold much sway inside Republican circles. I just suspect a lot of women right now ar watching to see if the Republican attack dogs turn on Palin the way the Democratic attack dogs turned on Hillary Clinton. If they do I suspect Repubs could pay for it with women for a long, long time. The fact that some of the dimmer bulbs at the Corner (and Krauthamer too, who should know better) sound like refugees from a really unhinged Kos post is pretty weak. and something the Repubs shouldn't let bleed over into their convention.
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Yeah, this is the first time I've contributed to a politician. Man, the things I've seen posted on the web the past two days, there seems to be quite a few dirt bags on the left.
I don't see the Palin choice picking up very many PUMAs. They went in the tank for Bubba, they ain't leaving now. Posted by: sears poncho at August 30, 2008 09:55 PM (KI0wm) 81
Why is Government inherently a problem.
My experience is that the Federal Government will reach down into the shit to help someone getting their Liberties trampled on. If I understand the Founders correctly the purpose of the Government is to make sure that as many people as possible have the opportunity to flourish, including to spiritually flourish. That's why the economy matters; that's what the Military is defending. Our Government is specifically tasked to do certain things by the Constitution---read the Preamble. Posted by: Prince Love at August 30, 2008 09:56 PM (o4MaC) 82
The fact that us neophyte blog commenters has to point that out to the people at the Corner is sort of...amazing. I thought they were professionals...at something or another.
Posted by: The Obvious at August 30, 2008 09:56 PM (1g+FW) Posted by: Prince Love at August 30, 2008 10:02 PM (o4MaC) 84
Krauthammer also thought that Obama did a good job at the Saddleback debate. Huh? What was he watching?
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She doesn't necessarily have to pick them up. The ones that stay home are a big deal, too. Another reason the "women just don't count for much in this here brave he-man-only Republican party" stuff we're getting from the Corner and Krauthamer is so bone headed. They're the one's giving the Pumas the motivation to get involved and vote, for Obama because they're saying that Palin is all a hollow and ridiculous act contrived just to fool the Pumas. They are confirming all the Pumas darkest fears about Republicans,not Paln, not Obama, not the MSM...them. Not only are they being sexist and dishonest they are purposely cutting their own party's throat wiht millions of women voters. And I can't see any reason at all for them to do it, other than to please their own frigging egos. For that they should be called out. Publicly by someone other than the nominee. Posted by: The Obvious at August 30, 2008 10:04 PM (1g+FW) 86
sears poncho, "I don't see the Palin choice picking up very many PUMAs"
I spent a long time at their website. ALOT of them are jumping ship. They are looking for a new "home" (at least until the next election). Sarah was very wise to welcome them during her speech. Posted by: sirsurfalot at August 30, 2008 10:09 PM (Czvjx) Posted by: Hongqi at August 30, 2008 10:15 PM (+WuMm) 88
Thanks Obvious and sirsurfalot for the insights. I appreciate the replies. Frankly,
I hope you are correct, not that I'm jumping up and down about McCain, but he is a hell of site better than Obama and Greasy Joe. Posted by: sears poncho at August 30, 2008 10:20 PM (KI0wm) 89
Let's not forget that 1994 Al Gore talked about "political contributions from "the extra-chromosome right wing." "
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Republicans win, Democrats win, society wins, the populace wins. Why is the considered nutters or unrealistic? Aren't we all in the same Nation? Or is this fundamentally a matter of winning majorities in order to get to decide who gets the money? Posted by: Prince Love at August 30, 2008 10:22 PM (o4MaC) 91
Just a few quotes from PUMAS...
"I want Obama out, I want Hill in in 2012. Period. And to do that I will be voting for McCain this time" "Listen, the only way they will allow Hillary to run in 2012 is if there is a woman on the other ticket. I have no problem with Hillary running against Palin in 12. It is never a sure thing, let’s just keep BO out and let the chips fall where they may. This is not an easy vote for any of us, but change, real change is never easy". "Although I don’t agree with all of Palin’s positions, I respect the fact that being Pro Life, she gave birth to a down syndrome child, knowing the situation ahead of time. She also worked to end the corruption in the Alaskan government. I feel confident that she is trustworthy and strong in her ability to govern. It’s more than we’ve gotten from Obama or the democrats in charge of the DNC. The democrats can talk all they want about her lack of experience. That’s “the pot calling the kettle black.” Oops, sorry. (you have to be sooo careful how you phrase things these days!)" "It’s a done deal then - if the Jewish World Review is favorable to Palin, I
know who my pals in the senior complexes will vote for. Posted by: sirsurfalot at August 30, 2008 10:24 PM (Czvjx) 92
#71--"you can still give Mccain money after the deadline. This deadline is just for the primary campaign fund, and after the deadline, you can give money to Mccain's general election fund."
--I don't think that's correct. I could be wrong but it's my understanding that McCain/Palin '08 will receive public financing after Sept. 1, although they will be able to expend the money they collect today and tomorrow. Posted by: Noel at August 30, 2008 10:25 PM (4gHqM) 93
Better and better at the Corner. Such wit. So incisive. So darned smart. Why is it that when the Democrats make a mistake the Republican punditocracy suddenly takes it upon itself to make a mortal mistake?
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTI3NDgyZDg2ODBiMjdiN2ZlMmNkMmRiMjMwZjE3ZWU Posted by: The Obvious at August 30, 2008 10:45 PM (1g+FW) 94
Peter Robinson has consistently fine and incisive guests on NRO's Common Knowledge. Let's clone Robinson and replace about half of the NRO snobocracy with the duplicates. And while Krauthammer has a record of 4 out of 5 for intelligent argument, I really don't get where he's coming from. If McCain loses, it won't be on account of Palin, it will be on account of McCain. We're talking VP here, not POTUS. Did Krauthammer argue that the Biden pick will cost Obastard the election?
Posted by: George Orwell at August 30, 2008 10:50 PM (AZGON) 95
I think it has to do with the narrow margins of party-line Congressional voting. On both left and right, any given faction can hold the whole party hostage in order to get what it wants in the bills.
And I'm not speaking of the hawks. Posted by: Prince Love at August 30, 2008 10:51 PM (o4MaC) Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 10:51 PM (ul7te) 97
I'm just a sea lawyer, but from what I've read on the FEC website if McCain/Palin accept public funds they're limited to spending only the $20 million they get from the gov. They can collect money for a legal/accounting fund to ensure compliance, but if they spend more than $20 million they have to give the government back the money. As for when that happens all the (non-legalese) things I've read talk about the "major party candidate" which, to me, means that until he accepts the nomination he can spend what he wants.
Now here's a dark (and totally unrelated) thought: What if Biden wasn't drinking because of the idea of facing Palin in the debates, but because Obama just told him that in a couple of weeks he was going to suffer from "health problems" and would have to withdraw? Posted by: Dirtyblueshirt at August 30, 2008 11:02 PM (Esj4t) 98
I thought it was a sliding scale? Doesn't matter, the net can coax the news networks into far greater coverage, seeing as how Obama is retarda. Posted by: wickedpinto at August 30, 2008 11:09 PM (ul7te) 99
Whoops, stupid hobo that I is. It's "Uncommon Knowledge" at NRO TV.
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Aren't we after the best governance that we can get. I thought that was the point of the Republican form of Government. You can't govern if you don't win. Posted by: wiserbud at August 30, 2008 11:39 PM (x6oXv) 101
Ahh, the Bill Clinton argument. Winning is winning.
I don't think no one is considering anything other than the Republican Party winning. Posted by: Prince on Pause at August 30, 2008 11:48 PM (o4MaC) 102
I don't think no one is considering anything other than the Republican Party winning. Ummm, yeah, I am considering that argument and am very comfortable with using it. Because the alternative is sooo much worse. See, it's not always that you get to vote the the perfect candidate. Sometimes, you have to choose between the lesser of two evils. And believe me, McCain is, by far, the lesser of two evils. Posted by: wiserbud at August 31, 2008 12:08 AM (x6oXv) 103
Wiserbud, very true... but please don't feed the trolls.
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Boy, I wish I was loaded with cash.
Not only would I donate a bunch of money, I'd buy a new Challenger, re-badge it as a Plymouth Barracuda, and call it Sarah. Lic. plate: SARACUDA Someone had better already be working on that, or I'm gonna be mad. Posted by: Merovign at August 31, 2008 01:18 AM (UXoQt) 106
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Noel, you're absolutely right.
from the FEC: General Election Grants The Republican and Democratic candidates who win their parties' nominations for President are each eligible to receive a grant to cover all the expenses of their general election campaigns. The basic $20 million grant is adjusted for inflation each Presidential election year. In 2008, the grant is for $84.1 million. Nominees who accept the funds must agree not to raise private contributions (from individuals, PACs or party committees) and to limit their campaign expenditures to the amount of public funds they receive. They may use the funds only for campaign expenses. A third party Presidential candidate may qualify for some public funds after the general election if he or she receives at least five percent of the popular vote. Thanks for schooling me. I'm going to go ahead and make a second contribution early, then.Posted by: Shill at August 31, 2008 02:55 AM (8jYMc) 109
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