1 I think I was on the side of justice and ultimately it will be seen that way

Sorry Bill, no sale.  Maybe Satan will bite.

2 Indeed I will. This way, Mr. Ayers. And  welcome.

3 I actually think it was a big deal.

4 Oh, do you want to know the definition of stupid? I just chatted with this girl from Iowa:

[19:44:17] Christoph says: Obama has terrorist friends.
[19:44:42] Lauren says: what are your sources?
[19:45:16] Christoph says: It's common knowledge. He served on a board with William Ayers who proudly admits to leading a group that bombed several buildings including the Pentagon. Ayers said he wished he'd done more.
[19:45:35] Christoph says: He started his political career at Ayers' house.
[19:45:50] Lauren says: so. that doesn't make him a terrorist
[19:46:01] Christoph says: No, it makes him the friend of an unrepentant terrorist.
[19:46:33] Lauren says: so?
[19:46:38] Lauren says: it doesn't mean he is
[19:46:47] Lauren says: and I won't judge him on his friends
[19:46:53] Lauren says: I know the saying you are your friends
[19:47:03] Lauren says: but....still...everyone can make their own decisions

Iowa voted for Mike Huckabee. Just saying.

5 It's a familiar pattern, Christoph.

1: Y.
2: ¬Y.
1: ?
2: ¬Z → ¬Y.
1: X. (Z|X) → Y.
2: ¬Y.

6 Bill Ayers was able to help end the Vietnam war.  That war ending the way it did killed millions of people.  We would have won the war otherwise in my opinion, but I wasn't there.  All I know is that this is the true legacy of the anti-war movement, and why the wise were able to fight them so well on the Iraq propaganda war, and prevent a similar atrocity.

Bill Ayers's second impact on our world may very well be to prevent Obama from being President.  I certainly intend to send him a thank you card if Mccain wins.

7 Christoph's gonna fuck Lauren.  Only question is, will she notice?  Doubtful, stupid as she is.  But, as I say, and I'm sure Christoph will be soon:  "You don't fuck their brain."

8

"not a big deal,"

You know?  when you are ACTUALLY standing and fighting for freedom, liberty and the rights of your fellow man, (like in the Marine Corps) That argument doesn't fly any better than Alex Jones with butterfly wings.

Trust Me, Pvt, PFC, LCpl, Pvt, PFC, LCpl, Cpl, Cpl pinto, KNOWS!

9 The organization that Ayers founded intentionally targetted and KILLED POLICE.

This is an absolute scandal that Obama associates with this unrepetent terrorist.

The families of these policeman don't have a father/husband because of this wicked man.

10 evil, not wicked.

11 7 Christoph's gonna fuck Lauren.  Only question is, will she notice?  Doubtful, stupid as she is.  But, as I say, and I'm sure Christoph will be soon:  "You don't fuck their brain."   No, you fuck their brains out.

12 Why weren't Ayers et al. strung up by their necks until they were dead decades ago?

13

Well, I'm sure this Ayers thing will now go away soon, right?

 

“I think I was on the side of justice and ultimately it will be seen that way,” “I don’t think our move was so much towards violence."

 

You don't have to be Mr. Spock to see how illogical all that is.

 

Ayers is slime. He would clearly be right at home among al-Qaeda, Hezbollah and the rest of those monsters.

 

Glad his idiotic words are getting some press, though. Every little bit of stuff like this hurts Obama and helps McCain. Gee, you can see the next Ayers ad already.

14

Why weren't Ayers et al. strung up by their necks until they were dead decades ago?

Why aren't Ayers et al. strung up by their necks until they are dead NOW??

Rhetorically speaking, of course.

I asked the same question about Saddam Hussein a while back, just for the record.

 

15 Look, I come to this site to enjoy the complete evisceration of complete assholes like Ayers.

So far you guys are letting my down.

Would you please rip this do nothing, pathetic loser, Obama buddy, a new one and don't hold back.

I'm counting on you guys to not let this sack of shit get away with saying it's not a big deal to bomb a federal building and kill some poor security guard will they were trying to act all counter culture and stuff.

16 will=while

17

Ayres walked because of prosecutorial misconduct. But his Ayres Sr. was a very influential man, and many things are for sale in Chicago, not just what WalMart carries.

Further, Ayres seems to live in his own, insulated little world. He’s never had to face real criticism, or really account for his actions. It’s important to remember that Ayres has a degree in Education; it’s little more than legally acceptable proof that he graduated high school.

Read or listen to Ayres' words. The thoughts he expresses are hardly profound; rather, they show at best a cursory understanding of the real world, and an assumption that his ideas are necessarily correct and beyonf need of examination. Actually, they are only for the uninformed/misinformed, the simple, the perpetual followers and students.

Fortunately, Obama’s roughly 10 association with Ayres is something that won’t easily go away, unless we let it.

The two of them essentially failed as leaders of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and over a number of years. This degree of continued executive failure should have kept Obama out of any county or state office.

I bet that once the UI-Chicago papers are examined, they will show, among other things, many if not all of Obama’s policies and proposals from earlier this year are really warmed-over Marxist nonsense proposed by Ayres that were either rejected or were tried and failed.

There’s speculation that Ayres is the force that tried to stop the release of the UI documents. If so, and it turns out that he was the dominant player on the CAC, and Obama was simply padding his resume, this could be a major crisis for both men: Obama had no leadership experience during his 8 or so years in his position, and the country will be able to examine, criticize and ultimately reject (and ridicule) this additional failure of Ayres.

The Freedom of Information Act is indeed a most useful product of the Virtnam Era.

 

18 But his father Ayres Sr. . . .

19

"...of the Vietnam Era."

It's late, and I watched the clip of Hillary!'s concession speech straight (no alcohol).  It was a bad choice.

20 Ayers claimed the Weathermen were driven by “hope and love,” not despair, and said he did not think the group’s violent acts, targeting federal officials and local law enforcement officers, were “a big deal.”

First of all, I don't think "hope and love" and "despair" are the only motives available to people who commit acts of terrorism.  For instance, there's also hatred, which seems to be a pretty powerful motivator for a lot of people.  Ideological rigidity, be it toward Marxism in his case or Islamic fascism in the case of Osama bin Laden is also a factor.

And while he may not think their terrorist activities were "a big deal," the families of their victims would probably disagree.  But hey, those are just the little people, right?  They're victims of their own "false consciousness" anyway, so they wouldn't understand that Bill & Co. were fighting for them, maaaaan.

The fact that this asshole isn't hanging like an albatross around Barack Obama's neck is a fucking disgrace.  If John McCain had ever even sneezed toward, say, an abortion clinic bomber, it would be on the front page of every major newspaper, the cover of every weekly news magazine, and the top story on all the networks.

We are well and truly fucked if Obama wins.

21 “I don’t think our move was so much towards violence."

Oh, really? So, targeted murders  with explosives is not violence? It's "hope and love"?   It still baffles me how these idiots believe this bullshit. These people are like revolutionary communists:  Any act is justifiable if it advances their political beliefs.

22 These people are like revolutionary communists:  Any act is justifiable if it advances their political beliefs.

You were close, Joseph, but I fixed that for you.

23

Barry didn't throw Billy Boy Rich Kid under the bus...but instead, defended him.

Wonder why, gosh, I just don't have any idea at all, gee willikers, no clue.

24 "These people are like revolutionary communists:  Any act is justifiable if it advances their political beliefs."

Yes. If I may be so bold, one might say that nihilism as an ideology supports this (by way of a curious sort of two-face materialism and the standard "will to power" rot that comes from looking at the abyss and seeing yourself commanding hoards of Hunns into Russia). Modern liberalism is the philosophical heir, in the sense that it's the exact opposite of classical liberalism dressed up in order to take its place. (I'm looking forward to that Kalb book on liberalism.)

Also: the greatest gift to the 20th century from socialism was the lie that only socialism is an option. The entire first world has bought it, and we spent the first half of the century fighting between its strains (national, international, and the soft fascism of Wilson, et al). Socialism is a foregone conclusion, and now we have to appeal to the nicer liberals in order to hold off the nasty ones. It's all leaning further Left, built on shaky, self-fulfilling lies of inequality and class warfare during the most prosperous and equitable time of the human race.

Contentment isn't enough to counter rabble rousers. Shunning is a good start.

25 Prediction:

Ayers goes under the bus before the end of the Republican convention, and possibly by the end of this week. "This is not the Bill Ayers I knew, &c."

You heard it here first!

26 Lazy assholes - again with the Woods Fund reference only. The real meat & potatoes was the 9 figure sum that Barry helped distribute to all Ayers' revolutionary friends via the "failed" Annenberg Challenge. The more I think about it, the more I realize that the CAC didn't fail at all. It succeeded fabulously at funneling filthy capitalist lucre to some leftist dirtbags. Just like Ayers  installed Barry as his puppet figurehead, so now comes the DNC running the playbook. Viva la Change, baby!

27 The problem with the Ayers stuff is that the average American doesn't care.  The Vietnam war is, like, a million years ago.  Anything that happened that long ago is not important.  I mean, didn't you see what Brittney was wearing the other day?

28 Ayers claimed the Weathermen were driven by “hope and love,” not despair, and said he did not think the group’s violent acts, targeting federal officials and local law enforcement officers, were “a big deal.”

What was no "big deal" was when this simple loser's cocksucker friends blew themselves to Hell because they were too stupid to know how dangerous handling explosives were in putting bombs together in their playpen revolutionary horseshit.  Assholes like Ayers were a dime a dozen in college at the time, low on brain-power and trying to get over on trim even stupider than they were (and idiots like Barry) with their lame Marxist crap.  The media started getting infiltrated with vermin and were complicit in romanticizing these maggots and acting like it's no "big deal".  The beginning of payback would be for this ugly shitstain to be a primary reason for Oblammo to get pwn3d at the hands of a hero of Vietnam.

29

Ayers is proof enough that some rough and ready citizens' justice still has a place.  The trees on my patch of ground have plenty of sturdy limbs, and rope is cheap...

I think the average American would care, if they really knew the story.  Most people I've spoken to have very little (if any) knowledge about this matter.  It should be constantly trumpeted and thrust in the public's face, to force people to confront the reality.  The Left does that with their lies - it's time for the Right to do that with the truth.  Eventually it will sink in.

 

30 These underground cells that Ayers belonged to were Maoist and they held held regular denunciation meetings. They also had orgies (not very Maoist). The intent was to break down the individual completely by breaking taboos. Straight males were ordered to have sex with males, women weren't allowed to choose their sexual partners, etc. 

31

" The intent was to break down the individual completely by breaking taboos."

Sort of like the wonderful schools the left runs in this country.

This asshole is a hero to modern Democrats and the Teacher's Union, a big time hero with medals and shit.

But to old school Democrats he is a piece of human debris.

I think the old school Democrats remember these idiots well enough, they weren't able to have their minds scrubbed by the media, tv, schools, colleges...

It's people like this cocksucker that give me a big time distrust of "educators". They force kids into their little shcool pipeline, but the masters of that domain are kindred souls with an insane little Rich Boy like Ayers.

What a country.

32 Hmmm, I'm thinking of running for president one day, who can I befriend to help me in that task of leading our great ( well, it's not so great to me and my wife, bit I digress..) nation? How about a Satan's barbed-cocksucking cop-killing commie? Yeah, that's the ticket, no prob, won't even be a speed bump in my elitist world-view of conning the gun-hugging little people into voting for me.

33 It's assholes like Ayers and company who ran around the country in the 60s encouraging kids to drop out of high school/college.  Now, they have taken over the educational system.  It's amazing how many SDS/Weatherman are teachers. 

34 Hey, behind closed doors we let our wives do us with big purple strap-ons , so jail would be a picnic for us. Been having swap-outs for years , Daley always has the wierdest grin on his face, but whatev.

35

Christoph's gonna fuck Lauren.  Only question is, will she notice?  Doubtful, stupid as she is.  But, as I say, and I'm sure Christoph will be soon:  "You don't fuck their brain."   No, you fuck their brains out.

Someone else beat him to that I think.

36 Hillary dumps the hate shit from the Civil War to obliterate the 1960's with the 1860's since no one from the 19th Century is around to argue. By feigning that the Democrat Party was the 19th Century Republican Party, though, Pirate Hillary leaves her merry band of Barry/Joes walking their own plank into quicksand.

37 I guess this proves two things:

1) That everything really is for sale in Chicago

And

2) That myth about old style Dems loving this country really was just a myth.

If old man Ayers really did have that much juice with the Daleys, I could see something like this happening:

Ayers Sr: Look, you gotta understand, Billy's not so smart and kind of a hothead, but you and I go back and Billy's gotta have a job.

Daley: Bill, I gotta be honest with you. Billy's a traitorous commie bastard. No way is he teaching kids. No way is he getting any power. I got this dog catcher job. "Chief" Dog Catcher. Pays a hundred grand a year. You want it or not?

38 Normal people don't associate homemade C4 with "hope and love".

39 It's amazing how many SDS/Weatherman are teachers.

...Steve Diamond essays on Ayers$Annenburg paving with gold the SDS road to managing our national education from within to replicate Marxism with each student.

Conform to communism or be sanctioned as professors dock grades and refuse recommendations to Marx maligners. If there had been any doubt, Jimmy Carter made Socialism official national and federal protocol across the board.

Old Testament paraphrase, teach them their ways as children and reap the harvest. It's been no secret, indoctrinate youth. Either teach them the traditions that created and established and maintained our Founding Principles, or teach them to hate their heritage clinging only to the fleeting moment as if that's all there ever was or will be.

CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN: Don't worry, be the feds' slaving tax payer, or not and get the suckers' redistributed income that you "deserve" as a citizen of the world, regardless of US citizenship or employment or service contribution. C'mon, join the ignorant and stupid "in" crowd. With so many in our ranks, how could we be the losers? Misery loves company.

40 It's assholes like Ayers and company who ran around the country in the 60s encouraging kids to drop out of high school/college.

Not to be outdone, Michelle has picked up where others left off, admonishing women not to go into debt for an education but to settle for the minimum wage positions.

41 In any sane world, this douchebag and his loon of a wife would be rotting in federal prison this very day. Instead, they are both sheltered in the ivy-covered bosom of the academy. I suppose in a way it is testament to how really free America is, that this obviously-guilty terrorist could not only survive but thrive in the very society he's trying to bring low. Still, this speaks of a kind of cultural schizophrenia that can't bode well for the future: America is more of an idea than a place, and it only works so long as the majority of people belive in certain common ideals.

42 "Ayers claimed the Weathermen were driven by 'hope and love'..."

Love? Yeah, very much like the psychotic murderer in Harlan Ellison's "The Beast that Shouted Love at the Heart of the World".

43 Conform to communism or be sanctioned as professors dock grades and refuse recommendations to Marx maligners.

A while back, in the LAT Sunday mag, there was an article written by a film producer. His kid was in the UC - Santa Barbara film program. He complained that none of the courses dealt with, you know, how to make movies. Instead, it was almost all marxist drivel. He sat through lectures and talked to the professors and students.  If you didn't toe the marxist line, you didn't pass the classes.

44

#18

BINGO.

Ayer's dad was the president of power company in mid west (Commonwealth Edison).

Spoil rotten brat kid who hates daddy and wants to show him that his monopoly power company is evil.

Not that hard to figure this out.  He is a rich twit, who never worked a day in his life, except to sell his marxism.

45 "Ayers claimed the Weathermen were driven by 'hope and love'..."

You're gonna love what I got planned for you Billy boy. 

46

" It's amazing how many SDS/Weatherman are teachers."

I've told this story before, maybe here, but it's good anyway.

I was having a few beers with a vendor rep and it was around the 2004 election. The hotel he was staying at, and where we were drinking is one that is used for a lot of Michigan Education Assn stuff.

Well, we were in line and a small slightly balding older guy, grew up in the 60's for sure, was also in line and heard us taliking about voting for Bush. He confronted us on it and started to ask me why I would vote for him in this condescending teacherly tone, as if he had all the answers. Anyone who has ever come in contact with leftists knows what I'm talking about. I gave back to him the reasons why I would vote for Bush, and a defense of conservatism from a Randian perspective, of course, and that made him even more angry.

So he skulks away, he couldn't give me any reasons why I shouldn't vote for Bush just got red faced and stammered, and we get our drinks and go hang out.

Next time I go to get a beer, an older woman is in line and she confronted me as well. She said that I deserve a punch in the head for voting for Bush, that little misshapen asshole was sitting with her and a few other teacherly types. He was going to have her do it for me, or maybe just made a remark about it.

These people are worthless mentally defective little cowards who pick on children because they know they are defenseless.

I had a social studies teacher in hs who was like these people, he's a fucking Principal. What a flaming asshole that guy was. That mincing effeminate voice...what a dickhead.

47 38 Normal people don't associate homemade C4 with "hope and love".

But they should.
Ayers is not evil because he wakes up and says to himself "I shall be evil." Ayers and ObL and others before and after wake up and commit evil acts out of motives they believe to be good. Motives, intents, as the words are commonly used, don't mean sh##t.
It isn't despair (or love) that makes Ayers evil, it is his combat against justice and law.

48 Spoil rotten brat kid who hates daddy and wants to show him that his monopoly power company is evil.

Very few of this ilk weren't spoiled rotten rich kids. And they were all welcomed back by their families. It's much easier to go through life as a fuck up and not worrying about the consequences of one's actions when your rich family with connections are always there to bail you out and find some school/job that will hire you.

49 Yes, and Hitler made the trains run on time... mostly to Auschwitz.

50

Thought experiment:

Eric Rudolph launches John McCain's political career...McCain is COB of Rudolph's think tank.

Lefty reaction to same.

51

This guy is a super hero to the left. All those assholes are. Radical Chic and all that tripe.

They've infiltrated the educational system, where it doesn't take much skill to surround yourself with you likeminded idiot friends like Ward Churchill and that piece of shit who created Kwanzaazazaaa.

No results, lots of junkets, no responsibility...they never grew up and moved into middle age as adolescents who can't take care of themselves.

The tired creaking 60's trundle along fucking things up still.

52 lots of junkets

Tell me about it. I'm sick of paying for my mayor and governors trips around the globe.  They take people who they owe political favors to, i.e., president of SIEU, and stay at 5 star hotels.  I think the mayor of LA is out of town most of the time (not that it stops him from fucking the city up).  Also, our leftard Chief of Police who also runs around the world giving speeches and padding his consulting business.

53

The only surprising thing here is that anyone is surprised at all.  Glorifying and supporting terrorism is standard procedure for democrats and libs and has been for a good long time.  Anything at all is acceptable as long as it supports the cause, as any good leftist will tell you.  To them, Ayers is a hero, and that alone should tell you all you need to know about the obamamessiah.

54

#48

You are right, unfortunately I know a lot of kids my son's age that have this same attitude.  My son sold books door to door for 4 years (Southwestern Co), he learned that not everyone in this country belongs to a country club or has a guest house.  Two of his friend sold with him, their is dad head of a VERY large bank.  They didn't do so well, but their father has never stopped thanking my son for teaching his kids what the real world is like.

He also learned their are a lot of lazy SOB who want to blame anyone but themselves for their failures.  Sound like he can spot a democrat from 1/2 mile.

This twit should have worked construction in the summer, instead of going to "summer camp".

55

Who said anything about surprise?

Anyway, the curious thing- be it Bin Laden or Ayers- remains the upbringing. Both of these cretins came from major-league wealth... both are astonishingly narcissistic... and both believe themselves to be superheroes fighting against evil.

One's going to die (if he hasn't already) of renal failure, the other is training a whole bunch of other willing idiots to carry on his tradition... surrounded by his adoring sycophants.

Disgusting.

tmi3rd

56 It's much easier to go through life as a fuck up and not worrying about the consequences of one's actions when your rich family with connections are always there to bail you out and find some school/job that will hire you.

What's wrong with that?

57 Lazy assholes - again with the Woods Fund reference only. The real meat & potatoes was the 9 figure sum that Barry helped distribute to all Ayers' revolutionary friends via the "failed" Annenberg Challenge. The more I think about it, the more I realize that the CAC didn't fail at all. It succeeded fabulously at funneling filthy capitalist lucre to some leftist dirtbags. Just like Ayers  installed Barry as his puppet figurehead, so now comes the DNC running the playbook. Viva la Change, baby!

Posted by: rhodeymark at August 27, 2008 06:10 AM (cxAEH)

I'm eagerly awaiting the Kurtz and Diamond report on the CAC documents.  It's amusing and amazing that those two guys are working together now....the uber-conservative PhD and uber-liberal JD.  If the folks scrubbing the records made any mistake at all, those two guys will find it.

58 Dealing with people who have no capacity for introspection and honest self evaluation gives me a fucking migraine. Ayers belief that the bombings of the W.U. were "good" reminds me of the discussion a while back about the "Vagina Monologues" (alt. title: Hoohah Harangues) and how one of them involves a character who as a teenager was coerced into lesbian sex by an older woman. But since it caused the character to realize the truth of her own homosexuality it was a good rape. So remember kids, progressive ideology means never having to say you're sorry.

If Bush was clever, he should have declared that the war in Iraq was due to Saddam's unwillingness to provide government grants to foster transgendered community theater.

59

Does Obama know anyone who is remotely respectable?

At this point it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we found out that he was childhood friends with Jeffery Dahlmer, played squash every wednesday with Al Zawahiri and was personally tutored by Kim Jong Il.

60 Obama shared an apartment one summer with Uday and Husay Hussein.

61

Q: What's the difference between a college student wearing a Che t-shirt and one wearing an Ayers t-shirt?

A: Ayers gets paid for the one with his picture. Capitalism, baby!

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