It Looks Like It's Bayh

The last tidbit in the post is the clincher.

Well, not a clincher, really. But it seems Obama's running mate will be Evan Bayh.

Who voted in favor of the War in Iraq.

Obama's attempt to lend himself foreign policy experience by osmosis has led him to select a man who, in his figuring, voted in favor of the worst foreign policy blunder of the past century.

Just to get it out of the way early, I question Evan Bayh's patriotism.

This is a boring, safe choice. So my not-really-serious prediction about the collapsing Obama choosing Hillary seems wrong.

Despite a Zogby poll showing Obama falling by a net 15 points, going from a 47-40 advantage to a 46-41 deficit.

As Hot Air notes (and we all know), Zogby's polls are... interesting. We all suspect, as the Freepers say, he adds "secret sauce" to the polls, weighting on things it's very dangerous to weight on (party identification, for example), and thus showing more dramatic swings and bigger leads than other, more cautious pollsters.

But this is another poll showing a big swing in favor of McCain and against Obama. Something has obviously happened. Obama's lost -- oh, let's just divide by two -- somewhere between 5 and 8 net points over a month or two.

Obama probably should be making a dramatic, high-impact choice for Veep. And McCain should probably be making a safe, don't-rock-the-boat choice. Obama didn't, and I'm guessing McCain won't.

Obama Denies Indiana Trip: Hm.

DrewM. thinks it's dangerous for Obama to lie like that, even in this sort of situation, where lying is, as in poker, more acceptable.

Posted by: Ace at 02:50 PM

Comments

1 Please let this be true. I want to listen to the talking heads say "Obama-Bayh" over and over again, just like the good sheep they are!

Posted by: mpur at August 20, 2008 02:55 PM (mk3d7)

Obama-Bayh could be Bayh Bayh Obama.

Posted by: Matt Monell at August 20, 2008 02:56 PM (tJA4L)

3 Nooooooooooooooo!

Biden, we want Biden damn it!

Posted by: DrewM. at August 20, 2008 02:57 PM (hlYel)

4 And btw, if it is true, I predicted Bayh on Wednesday, so where's my free content?

Posted by: mpur at August 20, 2008 03:00 PM (mk3d7)

5 There's forms to fill out.

Posted by: Eleven at August 20, 2008 03:01 PM (7DB+a)

6 Hope and Take No Chances.

This is a bad decision if Obama really wants to win. Dude has tunnel vision.

Republicans win Virginia with Bayh -- McCain wins.

Unless McCain is insane enough to pick Lieberman.

Posted by: mesablue at August 20, 2008 03:02 PM (5yNaE)

7 Obama-Bayh...bye. Okay that's too easy.

Posted by: Eleven at August 20, 2008 03:03 PM (7DB+a)

Sometimes I get the feeling that Obama's only running for president so he can pocket all the money he's raising for he and Michelle's children. If he seriously wants to be the president he would have had his nose far up the clinton's ass. (Sorry about that mental picture)

Posted by: Clonefan at August 20, 2008 03:05 PM (17uwu)

9 Forms? WTF?

Just check yes for "sucker of cocks" and give me my goddamn free content!

Posted by: mpur at August 20, 2008 03:05 PM (mk3d7)

10 LAST summer someone I know who is a legislator in Washington State said that without a doubt Evan Bayh would be Hillary's VP choice. Since he will be Obama's I think this means he was the great hope for the future of the Dems not matter who was on the top of the ticket.

He's clean looking too.

Posted by: mare at August 20, 2008 03:06 PM (xMkst)

Link doesn't work.

So Gore lost TN, so will Bayh lose IN.

The ship is sinking. 40 states, said two months ago, we have two months left.

Does anyone not think there is a 10 point Bradley affect in all these polls. Give me a break. MI is NOT going to vote for THE ONE. Neither is WIS, Ohio, PA or NJ!. What are the MSM smoking??

Netroots, enjoy it now, this is the closest you will ever get to the White House.

It's all down hill for them now. The more the moonbats are seen on TV next week, the lower their numbers will get.

Posted by: kempermanx at August 20, 2008 03:08 PM (2+9Yx)

12 Biden would have been fun.

Posted by: mare at August 20, 2008 03:10 PM (xMkst)

13 I think this means he was the great hope for the future of the Dems not matter who was on the top of the ticket.

Bayh has been the last great hope of the Democratic party since 2004 an in neither of the two cycles has he gotten off the ground.

A friend of mine in college and I used to joke about a goaltender for the NY Rangers named Ron Scott. He was always referred to a their 'goalie of the future'. In fact that was the title he had right up until the day he retired, hardly ever having playing in the NHL.

I get that same feeling about Bayh.

Posted by: DrewM. at August 20, 2008 03:12 PM (hlYel)

BHO lead goes away why?

Bho wrong on energy

BHO wrong on Russia

BHO wrong on abortion

BHO wrong on campaign finance

BHO wrong on nuclear weapons

BHO wrong on taxes

Add into this the fact that the MSM tried to write the Americian people out of the election and acted like the election was just a formality and you get the huge drop in the polls.

BHO the wrong man for the times

Posted by: unseen at August 20, 2008 03:15 PM (aVGmX)

15 Bayh has a HUGE family name in Indiana. That he would be elected to statewide office was inevitable the day he was born. He's the Dan Quayle of the Dem side -- with less charisma.

He wasn't going to go anywhere anytime soon. Indiana voters are squishy as all hell and will deliver the state. However, this is a bad pick for trying to pull in the states he'll really need to win.

Posted by: mesablue at August 20, 2008 03:22 PM (5yNaE)

16 It won't be Bayh and the media knows it. They want to make this a huge surprise shocker 'game changing' awesome super neato choice, so they are forcing us to compare it with Bayh, the Dan Quayle of the democrats.

This is just preparation trying to recapture some momentum. The media is only too happy to help. Obama is not taking it easy right now... he's in full attack crazy paranoid mode. He's going to pick an attack dog.

Posted by: ghy at August 20, 2008 03:23 PM (8jYMc)

What if this whole "Obama as presumptive nominee flailing around like a boated carp spineless citizen of the world disaster of a campaign" has been an elaborate false flag operation designed to shield the real democratic nominee-Hillary Clinton- from campaigning herself until it is too late to tack onto another heading and work against her?

I realize this is unlikely, but the main problems she had as a candidate for most people were that she was too well known, too insidery, too mercenary, and yet too tied to a progressive mindset to become an effective leader of the country.

Obama's performance since his clinching of the nomination has done a lot to obfuscate those perceptions of her from voters minds. She could even be seen as a fresh alternative. The question would really be how much damage the party as a whole would suffer and whether it would be worth the risk of rending it asunder at the convention to do so.

I am not saying this is likely, but it is the Clintons...

Posted by: U.S.S. Yorktown at August 20, 2008 03:25 PM (5RlWq)

18 Bayh won't bring indiana as a Veep, maybe as a candidate, but not as a veep.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 20, 2008 03:25 PM (ul7te)

19 and you're right Indy votes strange, but they still hate chicago politics. Maybe gary doesn't hate chicago, but gary, isn't indiana.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 20, 2008 03:26 PM (ul7te)

It's too bad. I was rooting for Carter.

Posted by: Some Guy at August 20, 2008 03:28 PM (lPxkl)

21
Hillary had the good sense to see a loser, I'm sure. If offered I'm sure she would decline VP.

She'll be back in for years, though. Just like Jason from Friday the 13th, cackling under her hockey mask.

Obama *won't* be back.

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at August 20, 2008 03:35 PM (kKO7A)

22 I'm still betting on the beast.

Posted by: toby hussein 928 at August 20, 2008 03:56 PM (evdj2)

I think ObAma would be crazy to nominate Hillary with him. The whold Vince Foster-Ron Brown thing might be conspiracy mongering at its finest, but would YOU take the chance of being the heartbeat between her and the Presidency?

Posted by: U.S.S. Yorktown at August 20, 2008 04:00 PM (5RlWq)

24 bayh, bayh, Obama.

Posted by: roy at August 20, 2008 04:00 PM (cB77O)

Obama Denies Indiana Trip: Hm.

DrewM. thinks it's dangerous for Obama to lie like that, even in this sort of situation, where lying is, as in poker, more acceptable.

He'll just blame his aides again. Still- between lying to them and his longstanding practice of being inaccessible to the media, he may drive the MSM from being cultish worshippers to mere supporters.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 20, 2008 04:05 PM (rf03a)

26 Bayh was Hillary VP for sure, that was a done deal.
I think the same for Obama/Sibelis.
If he's going with Bayh that means he's desperate and knows it's no longer inevitable a Dem would win this year. He's counting states and thinks Bayh can deliver Indiana. Indiana will be closer ala Ohio but McCain will still take it.
Nobody goes all out for number 2.

Posted by: Rocks at August 20, 2008 04:20 PM (Q1lie)

27

I'm free. Nothing better to do..

Posted by: Gary Glitter at August 20, 2008 04:45 PM (nqlWD)

28 Nobody goes all out for number 2.

Sumbitch, how quickly they forget.

Posted by: L.B.J. Circa 1960 at August 20, 2008 04:52 PM (hlYel)

29 I have a friend with an interesting theory:

"You watch: Bill's tap-dancing on the word 'qualified candidate,' Hillary's lockdown of prime speaking time, the continued lack of payoff of her campaign debt, these are all signs that she's still got one more ace to play. Probably on Friday, one major poll will conveniently point to McCain being either in a literal tie or slightly ahead of Obama. At that point, her surrogates begin calling the supers and asking them not to vote Obama, but rather to abstain on the first ballot. She can then step forward and say that all the delegates should decide in an open vote whom they really want.. I mean, you've already got Moulitsas publicly having cold feet, and he's the freaking leading edge of the Prog online movement. Buyer's remorse, my boy, buyer's remorse --but Auntie Hilly can still make things all better, doncha know..."

I don't think it will happen, but it is an interesting theory.

Posted by: Original Roy at August 20, 2008 04:52 PM (vtR2g)

30 The nutroots will expolde if this is true!

Posted by: cv at August 20, 2008 05:43 PM (GmamD)

31 It's Biden. I'm sure of it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 20, 2008 07:01 PM (0+Ggj)

Evan Bayh. A man whose name conjours...

Who?

Posted by: Mikey NTH at August 20, 2008 07:23 PM (TUWci)

33 A man whose name conjours...

...the finest mediocrity. Like going out "fine dining" at In And Out Burger

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 20, 2008 08:01 PM (6L459)

34 I've always liked Evan Bayh. You could have asked me to choose a Democratic Presidential or VP candidate for years, and he would have been my first choice.

Yes, he's more liberal than I, and I'd prefer a Republican be your next President, but he's a calm well spoken man who's serious, pro-life, and pro-America. I have no special gift with political prediction so I'm not sure it's a good choice that way. I think he'd make a good President in a pinch.

Obama, on the other hand, is a dangerous megalomaniac narcissist, inexperienced and green, and I think he'd be terrible.

Posted by: Christoph at August 20, 2008 09:19 PM (hawOV)

Obama's got two problems here- he needs a man who simultaneously brings him an important state and doesn't make him look like an entirely empty suit by comparison.

Which means it can only be Tim Kaine.

Best Regards

Posted by: ATNorth at August 20, 2008 11:53 PM (VAF/F)

You just can't make this shit up! Maybe I want Biden instead.

But it ain't Biden.

Posted by: ATNorth at August 20, 2008 11:58 PM (VAF/F)

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