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Read his new "fact check:" He's claiming he supported the federal law (in theory; he didn't have to vote on it) because federal law does not actually have any effect on state abortion law, and opposed the identical state version, because state laws can affect, um, state laws.

So he's a big supporter of the Born Alive Act... so long as it's actually ineffectual and carries no operative power.

Or... something.

So, John McCain should likewise announce his fervent support for a single-payer national healthcare law, so long as that law is passed by, say, the City Council of Oswego, New York, and would therefore have no actual legal weight.

And he, like Obama, should "get credit" for supporting a legislative nullity, while opposing, you know, the real law and stuff.

Obama really does seem to prefer the sort of "lawmaking" which is entirely conducted on the plane of airy generalities, nebulous themes, and empty gestures, doesn't he? When asked to vote on a bona fide law (a law-type law, with actual legal effect, as opposed to the "thinky" sort of thought-experiment virtual "law" Obama prefers) he either courageously votes present or cries that it was unfair to ask him to vote on a law that actually might change the law.

Nuance. Layers. Leadership.

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1 That sums up Obama in a nutshell.

Minus the marxist and terrorist connections.

Posted by: Christoph at August 19, 2008 11:10 PM (hawOV)

2 McCain gets all 57 States.

Posted by: eman at August 19, 2008 11:15 PM (qg185)

3 Obama '08: Now With More Infanticide Than Ever!

Posted by: DrewM. at August 19, 2008 11:15 PM (hlYel)

4 It's the new politics thing, clearly you just do not understand.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 19, 2008 11:21 PM (bSdbt)

5 Judgment to Lead...except when it, like, matters or some junk.

Posted by: Sean M. at August 19, 2008 11:30 PM (e6v7s)

6 Most of the major cities nationally are cesspools politically and Chicago is overflowing. This whole series of votes was just payback, I'm sure personally Obama could care less. Chicago will drag him down, it is really just getting started. We haven't even had the conventions yet, the nasty stuff is just starting to float to the top. He has no hope and that isn't going to change.

Posted by: Rocks at August 19, 2008 11:32 PM (7rbe9)

7
But seriously... Who the hell votes to kill babies born alive?

No. Seriously, because I'm not getting it. Who the hell votes to kill babies born alive?

That's some pretty sick shit, dude.

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at August 19, 2008 11:33 PM (kKO7A)

8 The Federal/State thing is just a dodge. The Illinois Atty. Gen. ruled that Christ Hospital did nothing wrong when it threw survivor babies into the broom closet to die. So the law was necessary in Illinois. (And if that's a "Christ" hospital, what does an anti-Christ hospital do?)

The Dead Baby Industry has always believed that an aborting woman is entitled to a corpse. Because they knew that it would cost them elections, even they were afraid to advocate it in public. But not Dr. O.

That makes him the most Pro-Abortion politician in America.

And just talking about "the least of these" at Rick Warren's church just makes it worse; you're for the little guy? Well, they don't come any littler.

Remember when Obama warned against the danger of doing evil in the name of good? How apt.

Posted by: Noel at August 19, 2008 11:38 PM (4gHqM)

9 Thank you, Chewy. I have been wondering about that also. Who the hell is for killing babies who survive an abortion?

WHO?

Isn't it pathetic we need legislation on something like this? BAD

Posted by: mare at August 19, 2008 11:41 PM (xMkst)

10 I'd call Obama a cocksucker, but, truthfully, that isn't a moral failing in my book. Even if it were, it's dramatically less so than supporting the killing of babies... even babies outside of a woman's vagina and breathing air.

Posted by: Christoph at August 19, 2008 11:58 PM (hawOV)

11 Some smart person described his schtick as all "Platitude and attitude." It's all he's got.

Posted by: Ronsonic at August 20, 2008 12:16 AM (ywSvi)

12 But did he say why he lied about this if it's so ineffectual ultimately?

Posted by: topsecretk9 at August 20, 2008 12:24 AM (LRJ8a)

13 I'm not rabidly anti-abortion, nor overtly religious, but there is undoubtedly a very special place in hell for people who kill the ones who miraculously survive an abortion. That shit just ain't right.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 20, 2008 12:25 AM (6L459)

14 That's some pretty sick shit. It shows an utter lack of thinking and a complete reliance on others (in this case, NOW--I'm guessing) for direction.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 20, 2008 12:35 AM (qAMnO)

15 Special sauce on top? He is on film calling the NRLC and the nurse who compiled all the evidence LIARS. Not mistaken, but LIARS.

Yeah, brilliant politician this guy is.

Posted by: funky chicken at August 20, 2008 01:06 AM (xyyHG)

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Posted by: funky chicken at August 20, 2008 01:07 AM (xyyHG)

17 And none of this will matter. You can't explain the truth of this story in under 30 seconds, so the MSM won't touch it even if it were so inclined. Furthermore the implications of Obastard's vote are so hideous most Americans will dismiss it as smear. Your idiocracy at work. Barry's years at the feet of a high priest of racism didn't sink him... In fact it is all but forgotten. If that weren't enough to do him in, then why raise an eyebrow at this? Ayers? Rezko? Pfleger? Barry could dine on an infant's corpse and at least forty percent of America would still vote for him. Forty percent would vote for a child molester so long as he were the Dummycrat candidate for POTUS. There is no thought here except to keep DC in Dem hands. It goes beyond policy, it's all the patronage and appointments that come with the Presidency.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 20, 2008 02:04 AM (AZGON)

18 And none of this will matter. You can't explain the truth of this story in under 30 seconds, so the MSM won't touch it even if it were so inclined. Furthermore the implications of Obastard's vote are so hideous most Americans will dismiss it as smear. Your idiocracy at work. Barry's years at the feet of a high priest of racism didn't sink him... In fact it is all but forgotten. If that weren't enough to do him in, then why raise an eyebrow at this? Ayers? Rezko? Pfleger? Barry could dine on an infant's corpse and at least forty percent of America would still vote for him. Forty percent would vote for a child molester so long as he were the Dummycrat candidate for POTUS. There is no thought here except to keep DC in Dem hands. It goes beyond policy, it's all the patronage and appointments that come with the Presidency.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 20, 2008 02:05 AM (AZGON)

19 Oops, sorry about the double post, fellas.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 20, 2008 02:09 AM (AZGON)

20 Special sauce on top? He is on film calling the NRLC and the nurse who compiled all the evidence LIARS. Not mistaken, but LIARS.

This is not as important as McCain approving a message of ad imagery of a stick making a sign of the cross vs a STICK PEOPLE!

Seriously, this is important.

Posted by: St. Andretard of the Scared Stupid at August 20, 2008 02:58 AM (LRJ8a)

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Wow, you're right! What was I thinking?

Obama's voting to toss live babies in a broom closet to die is nothing... nothing ... compared to the scandal that maybe, just maybe, there wasn't a guard that treated McCain nice one time in a prison camp.

My world view is right again, thanks!

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"The choice of infanticide should be between a woman and her doctor abortion provider."

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Posted by: fredras at August 20, 2008 04:56 AM (ZHsEK)

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(But, you know, with some mealy-mouthed pronouncements in the party platform about "reducing" the number of infanticides to kind of placate the rubes.)

Posted by: Sean M. at August 20, 2008 05:06 AM (e6v7s)

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Posted by: Sean M. at August 20, 2008 05:07 AM (e6v7s)

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I do not understand how stupid so many people choose to be and to remain in order to support Obama and the entire democrat mental bureaucracy.

A significant and productive square peg simply will not fit through his lousy "O" to end all production, and the peg will not abide being cut down to size and forced through the Obama drain, and will not be made malleable in order to conform amiably into his damned hole.

The totalitarian bastard can f*ck himself since no one with any sense wants the plagues he carries: Obama The Unclean.

Posted by: maverick muse at August 20, 2008 07:20 AM (F1b/5)

28 I think that everybody is missing the true benefit of Obama's plan. This law makes abortion less common - because now parents can just use infanticide instead. He should be running ads in evangelical circles "I passed a law encouraging parents to choose birth instead of abortion".

Posted by: Rachel at August 20, 2008 07:34 AM (b+aUE)

29
Richard J. Daley, i.e., Richard I of Chicago, is reputed to have once said, "Let us rise to ever higher and higher platitudes!" Looks like Captain Bullshit took that advise to heart.

Posted by: Brown Line at August 20, 2008 07:38 AM (OMiLl)

30 When asked to vote on a bona fide law (a law-type law, with actual legal effect, as opposed to the "thinky" sort of thought-experiment virtual "law" Obama prefers) he either courageously votes present or cries that it was unfair to ask him to vote on a law that actually might change the law.

But if he is elected POTUS I can totally trust him to take a stand and put his ass on the line to save my life and the lives of all other Americans when the shit hits the fan.

(excepting newborn infant/parasites, of course)

Posted by: lauraw at August 20, 2008 07:41 AM (DbybK)

31 Hmmmm

This issue is frankly horrific and not one I like reading about. I wouldn't think it would require a FUCKING LAW for an infant born successfully to get medical attention or to even be fucking recognized as a goddamn human being.

In a fucking hospital!

Posted by: memomachine at August 20, 2008 08:29 AM (3PLow)

Senator, if one of your daughters were to become pregnant and decide to get an abortion, but the procedure was botched and your grandbaby born alive, would you insist the doctors off the offspring of your offspring rather than having your daughter punished with a baby?

Posted by: hit and run at August 20, 2008 09:00 AM (jjNS6)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76foO3Gqx-M

Last night Bob Beckel went into attack mode on Hannity and Colmes. "The Republican's are trying to smear Obama by saying he wants to kill babies. Shame on you."

Dude, he supports Roe v Wade. Do you think that they spontaneously become babies in the magical mystery of the birth canal? No. You assholes have been killing babies all along. It's not like they were going to grow up to be puppies. If they were, PETA would be on our side.

Add to that, the left is full of people that call the troops "baby killers" and yet they actually celebrate killing babies. Seriously, you people don't seem to get it. No one buys that Obama is even remotely pro-life. Why all the hissy fit?

Look, your Messiah is a baby killer, deal with it. He has. Infact, he's voted that way more than once.

Posted by: Rob B at August 20, 2008 09:18 AM (+CMbq)

34 Nothing says hope like murdering your baby.

Maybe Obama and his supporters would like to explain to these folks that they never had a right to live.

Posted by: Warden at August 20, 2008 11:26 AM (KXbGD)

35 New Obama logo, that reflects his "pro choice" views, right here.

Posted by: Nice Deb at August 20, 2008 12:26 PM (rpUFK)

36 Audio of Obama speaking when this bill was before his committee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc

Apparently he was against this because bringing in a second doctor for emergency care of a aborted baby born alive is simply designed to "burden the original decision" of the mother who wished to abort.

The guy is the one alright. He's one sorry fucking excuse for a human being.

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