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| Thank Obama...Russians Accept Cease Fire Agreement In GeorgiaVirgina Governor Tim Kaine, my candidate in the Obama Veepstakes Pool, says it was Obama's intervention that lead to a cease fire between Russia and Georgia. It was a bad crisis for the world. It required tough words but also a smart approach to call on the international community to step in. And I’m very, very happy that the Senator’s request for a ceasefire has been complied with by President Medvedev.This will of course come as news to French President Nicholas Sarkozy who actually flew to Moscow to talk to the Russians. President Sarkozy won the Kremlin's agreement today on the conditions for a cessation of hostilities in Georgia that would see both sides return to their initial positions before fighting erupted last week. A six-point plan endorsed by President Medvedev during a visit by the French leader to Moscow calls on both Russia and Georgia to end all hostilities and allow free access for humanitarian assistance. Based on the principle of respect for Georgian sovereignty, it nevertheless promised a fuller discussion on the future status of Georgia’s two breakaway provinces, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, which both want to become part of Russia. ..."We are not at peace yet but we are at a temporary cessation of hostilities which is certainly significant," Mr Sarkozy, whose country holds the rotating presidency of the European Council of ministers, told a press conference at the Kremlin. But he added: "There is still a lot of work to do. The night is young."It's too soon to tell if the ceasefire will hold or even fully take effect but I think we can all agree that the notion that Obama is responsible for any of this is, what's the approved AoS term? Ah yes, batshit crazy. On second thought, we do know that He works in mysterious ways so perhaps Sarkozy is just His tool in this case. Either way, if part of Obama's VP selection criteria includes a check box for willingness to beclown oneself in praise of The One, I'm really liking my chances in the pool. More [Gabe]:For the Russians, the orders are to return to pre-conflict positions. That means "peacekeepers" will remain in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. A lengthy AP report recaps the latest activity. A taste: In Tskhinvali, South Ossetia's provincial capital, the body of a Georgian soldier lay in the street along with debris. A poster hanging nearby showed Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and the slogan "Say yes to peace and stability" as South Ossetian separatist fighters launched rockets at a Georgian plane soaring overhead. Broken glass and other debris littered the ground. [...] The situation in Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia, remained tense as sporadic fighting and artillery duels continued, but the city was in the control of Russian army and South Ossetian forces. In villages around Tskhinvali once populated by ethnic Georgians, South Ossetian fighters reportedly were setting fire to Georgian houses and searching for hidden Georgian fighters. An AP photographer in the village of Ruisi near South Ossetia saw fresh damage from a Russian air raid that locals said came just 30 minutes before Medvedev's televised statement.We don't know yet how many are dead. Both sides are making claims, but there are few independent observers in the areas where the worst fighting occurred. One noteworthy event reported by a Russian news agency and repeated by the UK's Daily mail is that Georgian troops torched a church in which South Ossetians had taken shelter. Gateway Pundit is skeptical. An atrocity like that needs to be investigated. Comments1
All Obama has to to is suggest that all fighting in Iraq, sub-Saharan Africa, and Columbia come to a halt and it will. What the fuck is he waiting on?
Posted by: conservative rebel: sign up for your nearest 5K walk to fight terrorism at August 12, 2008 12:26 PM (T4dLI) 2
YOU WINGNUTS DON'T LIKE IT WHEN THE FOOT IS ON THE OTHER HAND, DO YOU/?
PUTIN IS ONLY FOLLOWING BUSH'S EXAMPLE OF PRE-EMPTIVE WAR!
Posted by: Incredibly Obtuse Moonbat at August 12, 2008 12:28 PM (YmPwQ) 3
That is just a fucking insult to all the leaders of the democracies who are working to settle this down... I mean the leaders who are actually elected in actual elections, not just in their own minds. I would call Obama a "clown", but I don't want to insult any actual clowns, since they can be so dangerous when they get pissed off. Oops. Posted by: sherlock at August 12, 2008 12:30 PM (jdXw+) 4
That Timmy Kaine, he sure does kiss ass nice.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 12, 2008 12:31 PM (1Ug6U) 5
And I’m very, very happy that the Senator’s request for a ceasefire has been complied with by President Medvedev.
Complied, what a friggin word to use. If he took his head out of Obama's butt for 5 minutes maybe Kaine would realize that Putin is tired of "complying" to the US and so we get this. You can't shove this crap down the Russian's throats. They have been eating crow for 20 years now, sooner or later they were going to demand it stop. We should keep on with what we are doing but they days of throwing in their faces need to stop. Posted by: Rocks at August 12, 2008 12:41 PM (Q1lie) 6
I think the Russians will stick with it as long as the Georgian's do. They've more than made their point. Do they really want to deal with a full scale occupation? Nope. Do they want to show that they're willing to completely whip ass if anyone pushes them too hard? Yep.
Posted by: mr.frakypants at August 12, 2008 12:41 PM (PonvG) 7
I wouldn't say it's entirely clear this ceasefire is, err...real. Just because they say "OK, we cease fire" doesn't mean they aren't still firing while and after they say it. Posted by: Entropy at August 12, 2008 12:47 PM (m6c4H) 8
He works in mysterious ways.
Posted by: Javems at August 12, 2008 12:51 PM (hq71Y) 9
"And I’m very, very happy that the Senator’s request for a ceasefire has been complied with by President Medvedev." And the Rooster is very, very happy that the sun complied with his crowing by rising. Posted by: Ronsonic at August 12, 2008 12:54 PM (ywSvi) 10
The Chicago Sun Times already has Obama in the White House. WASHINGTON -- The swelling conflict between Russia and Georgia over South Ossetia and Abkhazia is the first major real-time foreign-policy crisis faced by Barack Obama. Posted by: CAD Daddy at August 12, 2008 12:54 PM (U6x6j) 11
So he brokered a ceasefire from a beach in Hawaii without even talking to either of the parties? Dear God, He is powerful. Imagine what He'll do if he doesn't make it to the White House. It'll make the Old Testament looks like a walk in the park. No wonder people are scared shitless of the thought of Him winning...
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at August 12, 2008 12:57 PM (grY4M) 12
One noteworthy event reported by a Russian news agency and repeated by the UK's Daily mail is that Georgian troops torched a church in which South Ossetians had taken shelter. And Poland attacked Germany. I do agree that it should be investigated. But I'm going to be really skeptical of anything the Russians say about what's happening there. Posted by: buzzion at August 12, 2008 01:01 PM (Lrsi6) 13
Can anybody in there right mind see Obama sitting across the table from Putin? A community organizer and the former head of the KGB. Almost sounds like surrender. Posted by: Lou at August 12, 2008 01:05 PM (RNwpX) 14
wtf
Posted by: Causality at August 12, 2008 01:07 PM (TXp3z) Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at August 12, 2008 01:12 PM (0FHr8) 16
It's obvious that Obama pulled a Chancellor Palpatine and got Jar Jar Sarkozy to implement his cunning plan. All hail Darth Hope!
Posted by: ubermosher at August 12, 2008 01:15 PM (slf9T) Posted by: Paladin at August 12, 2008 01:16 PM (ZO0u/) 18
Kaine is an asshole. Everyone knows Fred Baron got the Russians to ceasefire to help Obama. Obama didn't know.
Posted by: John Edwards at August 12, 2008 01:17 PM (Q1lie) 19
Obama magically paid off my mortgage. I just wished it and it was done -- just that simple.
Thanks Obama! You and Nancy are doers. Posted by: cranky at August 12, 2008 01:21 PM (APyCO) 20
I do agree that it should be investigated. But I'm going to be really skeptical of anything the Russians say about what's happening there.
That there is a burnt down church with bodies in is not proof of the accusation. We are talking Commmies here! Posted by: Paladin at August 12, 2008 01:23 PM (ZO0u/) 21
And I’m very, [cough] very happy that the Senator’s [cough cough] request for a [kaaaaaak kaaaaak] ceasefire has been [achem! aaaachem!]complied with by President Medvedev.
Sorry, I've got something stuck in my [cough cough] throat. Oh, it's just Obama's cock. Posted by: Gov. T. Kaine at August 12, 2008 01:31 PM (s8nCs) 22
Yea, Obama's request plus a bunch of surplus Dragon/LAW/Stingers that the spooks probably spirited in recently, but mostly the Dragon's, LAW's and Stingers.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 12, 2008 01:33 PM (Ub4J5) 23
Oh, I get it, this is like when useless hack unbiased objective journalist Steffy Stephanwhateverthefuck said that Clinton said he was going to fix health care, ergo health care was fixed.
Posted by: hhuummbbeerrtt at August 12, 2008 01:39 PM (f7A+e) 24
A return to status quo ante would actually be a hell of a deal for the Georgians. While I totally believe that the Russkis baited/suckered them into it, the Georgians were the first to kick off with a full scale offensive and they lost badly. Candidly, if this was Israel vs Arabs, I'd say that since the Georgians started it, they have to pay the penalty.
Posted by: Holdfast at August 12, 2008 01:51 PM (Gzb30) 25
Candidly, if this was Israel vs Arabs, I'd say that since the Georgians started it, they have to pay the penalty. If this was Israel vs. Arabs, the Georgians would be playing the role of the Israelis. Ossetian terrorists (with Russian backing) were lobbing bombs at them. Posted by: Entropy at August 12, 2008 02:05 PM (m6c4H) 26
Georgia needs to send some people to our sniper schools who are very good at calming down malcontents.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 12, 2008 02:07 PM (Ub4J5) 27
Entropy - yeah, but the Israelis would have defended their territory and won. I am sorry for the Georgians, but they gambled and lost, and I think it's gonna cost them. I know the Russkis deliberately provoked them, but they blew it. They should have opened the dance with an all-out attack on the Roki Tunel - thrown every aircraft they had at it - maybe that would have helped.
Posted by: Holdfast at August 12, 2008 02:24 PM (Gzb30) 28
"Georgia needs to send some people to our sniper schools who are very good at calming down malcontents." Yes, that is a good response. The Russian "peacekeepers" and their local puppets should start getting mysteriously killed. To bad the Checnyea "rebels" are such scum, some bombs there would be helpful too. Oh well. Sending US troops and planes to the Ukraine and the Baltic States would be useful also. Posted by: Bob from Ohio at August 12, 2008 02:42 PM (s6nMp) 29
Wow! Just look at the power of The Chosen One. OMG! He's not even president yet, and look at what he's been able to accomplish! When has any foregin head of state done anything after being told to do so by a mere yet-to-be-offically-nominated-candidate?
Truely, the sky will clear and the oceans recede when The Annointed One is elected president. Heck, why elect him, that's so taudry. Why not just PROCLAIM Him. Posted by: GarandFan at August 12, 2008 02:45 PM (eJ32B) 30
The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - Web Reconnaissance for 08/12/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day...so check back often. http://thunderrun.blogspot.com/2008/08/web-reconnaissance-for-08122008.html Posted by: David M at August 12, 2008 02:46 PM (gIAM9) 31
Yeah the president agreed to a cease fire... while the military continues to bomb Georgia and fire on Georgian soldiers. Sure there's a cease fire....
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2008 03:01 PM (0+Ggj) Posted by: hhuummbbeerrtt at August 12, 2008 03:12 PM (f7A+e) 33
Mr. Kaine, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Posted by: Clonefan at August 12, 2008 03:56 PM (17uwu) 34
Ah, the old burned church legend, that one always comes up, doesn't it? Every atrocious conflict someone drags that old canard up. Hey, those churches have windows right? Can't climb out? Never mind, that's just crazy talk.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2008 04:58 PM (0+Ggj) 35
@ 22 - Purple Avenger: "Yea, Obama's request plus a bunch of surplus Dragon/LAW/Stingers that the spooks probably spirited in recently, but mostly the Dragon's, LAW's and Stingers." Spooks? Good lord man, you don't even try to hide the racism in that statement!
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 12, 2008 08:49 PM (U9h+H) 36
@31: "Sure there's a cease fire...." Why the sarcasm? The Russians cease fire every time they reload their weapons.... Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 12, 2008 08:54 PM (U9h+H) 37
So the gang of 7, NATO lite, threatens to cut off Russia with economic armageddon and Russia folds. Wow, who would have guessed that?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2008 11:14 PM (VBon8) 38
Gov. Kaine not only kissed ass, he performed a http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rusty+trombone solo.
Posted by: SicSemperTyrannus at August 13, 2008 07:38 AM (cqZXM) 39
Gov. Kaine not only kissed ass, he performed a rusty trombone solo. I wish you had a preview pane. Posted by: SicSemperTyrannus at August 13, 2008 07:41 AM (Mv/2X) 40
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