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I can't imagine a White House with amateurs from Obama's team running it, especially given that the Bush/Cheney/Rove gang had problems harnessing their own people. It'd be hell for the MSM to try to cover for all of the crap coming out of there.
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i'll say it again: barry obama is an empty shirt. somebody should try to pull out whomever's arms are up his ass and pulling his mouth strings...i bet that is a pretty crowded area.... Posted by: dr. akim ullshitbay at July 01, 2008 11:36 AM (lnYH9) 3
The Left screamed about Bush somehow being 'arrogant.'
What kind of arrogance does it take for the undeniably least-qualified candidate to consider himself the only man for the job, above all others? A special brand of self-loving arrogance, that's what. Posted by: Unknown Moron at July 01, 2008 11:36 AM (+qV4i) 4
Obama's real problem in my opinion is not so much the flip-flops themselves (although they don't help) its the fact that the Obamessiah can NEVER be seen to have changed his mind on anything... Whatever his stated position is has always been his stated position... until its not, and then that new position has always been his opinion. Very 1984ish.
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He flip flops because the only thing that Obama believes in is his own entitlement to power and privilege.
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I wonder if the letterhead of the Alice B. Toklas LGBT Democratic Club features a photo of their namesake. That wouid certainly scare off a few potential LGBT marriage supporters. To paraphrase the scathing wit John Simon, Alice B. had "a face that launched a thousand cigar shops."
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Hey Obama Dude, there's a reason your handlers gave you a dumb-ass simple script with just three words: Change, Hope, Future. When you start talking issues, you get it all mixed up. Issues is for people with smarts, partner, and while some say you've got the looks, that's not the same thing as turning on that noodle.
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When you have a staff twice the size of Bush-Cheney 04 (700 members and growing) you can bet your ass its hard to try to figure out, let alone control, what your staff is doing in your name.
Obama is even sending 15 staffers to TEXAS. He really thinks he's going to win. Posted by: Arbitor at July 01, 2008 01:35 PM (tAGNb) 10
Someone sat down with a while back with Obama and told him to say what he had to say to any particular audience. Keep justifying what you are saying/changing and each group will only hear what they want to hear. It seems to be working.
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