Obama Debuts (for Real) His Own Very Special Pre-Presidential Seal

For reallies. A Logo You Can Believe In (TM).

Slublog's not letting that level of presumptuousness pass:

Though I don't see why Obama doesn't just stick with his old presidential logo:

Again, thanks to Slublog.

Illegal? Nah. There's a statute against using the "likeness" of the presidential seal in advertising, but I take "likeness" to mean "facsimilie." That is, using the actual seal.

It's the difference between obviously-fake parody "dollar bills" and counterfeit dollar bills. The former are legal, because they don't actually look like real dollar bills. A bit like them, sure, but not really like them. The latter are illegal because they look like the real thing.

Obama's seal is obviously patterned after the seal, but it also can't be mistaken for it. So it's not a "likeness" of the seal as "likeness" is intended to mean. Likeness illegal, resemblance legal. And the Obama seal, while as offensively messianiac and hyped up as everything else about this jug-eared jackass, is merely a resemblance of the presidential seal.

Posted by: Ace at 06:45 PM

Comments

Vero Possumus is Latin for "true possum."

I like it. Adds gravitas.

Posted by: Sobek at June 20, 2008 06:49 PM (6GK9U)

2 seriously what a fucking asshole, and we thought hillary believed she was entitled to the white house

Posted by: frank stallone at June 20, 2008 06:50 PM (xRpba)

3 What an arrogant piece of shit

Posted by: dan-O at June 20, 2008 06:55 PM (7Nejo)

4 What a complete jackass boob. This has become worse than pathetic. I feel sorry for our once great country. Excuse me, I just threw up into my mouth and all over my keyboard.

Posted by: Sparky at June 20, 2008 06:56 PM (J1f2W)

5 Do you get the idea some in the media are even getting a little snarky at this guy?

It's not going to impact their coverage but between yesterday's fundraising flip and this, there seems to be the start of a little blow back. It won't last long or do any damage but I think it's there.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 20, 2008 06:59 PM (hlYel)

6
That's the shit! Ohhhh Yeaaaah!

Posted by: Chris Matthew's Leg at June 20, 2008 07:02 PM (9zMOM)

7 Douchenozzle.

Maybe for a speech backdrop he can get a huge poster of Mt. Rushmore with his face on it.

Posted by: brak at June 20, 2008 07:05 PM (hbiDo)

8 Edwards is a pony, not a unicorn. Am I the only one who pays attention anymore?

Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 20, 2008 07:10 PM (C2//T)

9 He had to do something with all that mad cash, yo.

This money crap is gonna be like watching an Ayrab Sheik go against a welfare queen.

Posted by: Evil midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at June 20, 2008 07:11 PM (4+HsS)

10 Slublog, I love you.

Not in a ghey sort of way, ofcourse.

That little helmet on the eagle is a nice touch.

Posted by: Tushar at June 20, 2008 07:13 PM (DWXGz)

11 I like the Obamadential Seal better since it gets rid of that stupid American-flag shield thingy. A little upset about the arrows, though... Nevertheless, the Wedgwood china styling will help him better connect with us bitter working stiffs. (By "us" I mean "you.")

Posted by: Exurban Jon at June 20, 2008 07:15 PM (N0doa)

12 u guys are all fucked

Posted by: yeoman farmer at June 20, 2008 07:20 PM (xRpba)

13 It's a nice touch that Obama's version is missing the stars (representing the states), because he'll be all about 100% federal control.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2008 07:23 PM (pg/HS)

14 Also, is that arugula in the eagle's foot on the Obama version?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 20, 2008 07:24 PM (pg/HS)

15 It's a nice touch that Obama's version is missing the stars

We couldn't fit all 57 on the logo.

Posted by: Barack Obama at June 20, 2008 07:26 PM (hlYel)

16

I pledge allegiance to the seal of Barak Obama for America,

And to the hope and change for which he stands,

One messiah, sent from God, in a bicycle helmet,

With no energy and raised taxes for all.

Posted by: rinseandspit at June 20, 2008 07:26 PM (FySvp)

17
I'm pretty sure that's not an Olive Branch in the eagles claw but is in fact some sticky green bud.

Seriously. I'm not projecting.

Posted by: electricferret at June 20, 2008 07:27 PM (9zMOM)

18 Cute Latin: vero possumus is roughly (very roughly):
vero : in truth, indeed, to be sure / however. and:
Possumus is Latin for �we can.�
Therefore, his motto is: 'however we can' I think that's very appropriate.

Posted by: The Watcher at June 20, 2008 07:29 PM (/9Waz)

19 This idiot has a Eagle on his seal, and the word Possum. Isn't a possum just a rodent that serves as eagle-food?

Posted by: Tushar at June 20, 2008 07:36 PM (DWXGz)

20
OMG! It's a photo of Obama ridin' John Edwards - hard! Homos.

Posted by: GRC at June 20, 2008 07:37 PM (d4Zk/)

18 USCS � 713

� 713. Use of likenesses of the great seal of the United States, the seals of the President and Vice President, the seal of the United States Senate, the seal of the United States House of Representatives, and the seal of the United States Congress

(a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

Posted by: JB at June 20, 2008 07:40 PM (299nC)

22 He might have had my vote if he had used this seal.

Posted by: Exurban Jon at June 20, 2008 07:41 PM (N0doa)

23 When John F'n Kerry got his fake tan, I thought to myself, "There is absolutely no way this country will elect this conceited blowhard."

Havin' the same thought now about this one.

Posted by: qrstuv at June 20, 2008 07:44 PM (Y27YK)

24 jb fuckin wins that round lets try that mother fucker, seriously why not? there are rules for a reason

Posted by: frank stallone at June 20, 2008 07:47 PM (xRpba)

25 "There is absolutely no way this country will elect this conceited blowhard."

Havin' the same thought now about this one.

The problem is, the other guy is a conceited blowhard too. I think it will even out.

Posted by: DrewM. at June 20, 2008 07:53 PM (hlYel)

26 Alternate slogans: "Corruptis in Extremis" or "Donde Esta La Playa". What does "Elatus Illegitimi" mean for all of us non-classicists?

Posted by: Xeno at June 20, 2008 07:55 PM (o/1nd)

27 It's not a likeness of the Presidential Seal. It might even be a stretch to call it a parody. It's tacky as anything, but the only laws broken were those of taste.

Posted by: HokiePundit at June 20, 2008 07:56 PM (3sIHv)

28 I don't think Greg Gutfeld would appreciate that use of a picture of a sacred unicorn.

Posted by: PDizzle at June 20, 2008 08:02 PM (btpzp)

What does "Elatus Illegitimi" mean for all of us non-classicists?

I thought it said Flatus Illegitimi, which I took to mean "phoney fart."

Posted by: John McCain at June 20, 2008 08:17 PM (YCVBL)

30 I like the Obamadential Seal better since it gets rid of that stupid American-flag shield thingy. A little upset about the arrows, though...

Obama will need the arrows, for example, when he comes to collect his new taxes.

Posted by: Phinn at June 20, 2008 08:33 PM (MsKUi)

31 I don't speak Latin, or any other non-American language. However, considering much of English has Latin roots, I'd guess it means, "Arrogant B-stard." If I'm right, do I get a cookie?

Posted by: Publicserf at June 20, 2008 08:34 PM (T/fgt)

32 What does "Elatus Illegitimi" mean for all of us non-classicists?

Arrogant bastard.

Posted by: Phinn at June 20, 2008 08:35 PM (MsKUi)

So a real US flag lapel pin is phoney patriotism, but a phoney presidential seal is true hope?

I don't wear a flag pin; I don't put my hand on my heart when the anthem's playing; hell, I don't even fold my hands when I pray, so I thought I could see where Obama was coming from with the "no phoney symbolism" stuff.

But it don't get phonier than this. And where's the red? For not believing in "red states or blue states," that's one helluva lot of blue, without no red or purple or anything else.

On the other hand, it's somewhat fitting. Your eye is drawn immediately to the circle in the center, where you find -- nothing. A blank curvy rectangle thingy, on which you can write whatever you believe in, I guess.

Posted by: notropis at June 20, 2008 08:48 PM (sZpLh)

34 Bejeebus H. Christmas.
Fucking President Urkel, Jihadist sympathizer.
WAF.

Posted by: joe at June 20, 2008 08:52 PM (YcIuv)

35 'Vero Possumus is Latin for "true possum." '

No. It is Latin for "Yes we can!"

'What does "Elatus Illegitimi" mean for all of us non-classicists?

Arrogant bastard.'

Elatus doesn't really do for arrogant. Superbus, arrogans, iactans, insolens would all be more appropriate for that as elatus is generally more neutral or even positive in association, no?.

"I don't speak Latin..."

Don't feel bad, almost no one outside of the Vatican does.

Posted by: Craig R. Harmon at June 20, 2008 08:52 PM (Txchl)

36 The whole damn thing is like a poorly written Saturday Night Live skit that wasn't funny enough to make the cut. Just when one thinks it can't get any more tasteless or revolting, they surprise us again...

Posted by: RWB at June 20, 2008 08:54 PM (JFCl4)

FTA - CNN asks us what we think.

What a joke! Had McCain come remotely anywhere near such an unbelievably gauche display of hubris, CNN would have TOLD us what we think!

Posted by: sherlock at June 20, 2008 08:55 PM (ojW85)

38 Ecce douchebag

This should be on his seal.

Posted by: Yikes! at June 20, 2008 08:56 PM (R9ZWr)

39 No surprises here. Fascists - and thank you, Jonah Goldberg, for explaining that liberals and Fascists share the same statist tradition - always appropriate national symbols to create new symbols celebrating themselves.

If you're not starting to get just a little bit creeped out by the Cult of Chocolate Jesus, there's something wrong with you.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at June 20, 2008 09:00 PM (riNxh)

40 I have a niece who likes to say, "Nuclear douche." That work?

Posted by: Publicserf at June 20, 2008 09:00 PM (T/fgt)

41 Nothus Praesumptius.

Posted by: Phinn at June 20, 2008 09:11 PM (MsKUi)

42 The Latin really translates to: "Reformer, My Ass"

Posted by: Roy at June 20, 2008 09:12 PM (8fAvn)

43 The comments at the NYTimes are sickening.

It basically boils down to Obama! supporters thinking that it represents awesome Hope and Change! on a whole new level and how Obama will use this symbol to "drive out corruption out of Washington"

The people are blind and deluded.

Posted by: Techie at June 20, 2008 09:13 PM (QiEa4)

44 Unbelievable! Obama once again demonstrates a total lack of class.

Posted by: David Hinz at June 20, 2008 09:14 PM (g3r7a)

45 obama delenda est

Posted by: stace at June 20, 2008 09:17 PM (JO0c/)

46 Dominus servum vocat.

Oh, excuse me--flashback to 1972 Latin One. Cheap wine will do that.

Posted by: stace at June 20, 2008 09:21 PM (JO0c/)

47 "Vero Possumus"? How about "Praetēnsa Maximus"?

Posted by: proof at June 20, 2008 09:25 PM (j3K9W)

48 obamus unicornum copulatat.

Posted by: stace at June 20, 2008 09:29 PM (JO0c/)

All hail the Possum King.

Slublog, perhaps a photoshop with the eagle clutching arugula in one claw and a juicy possum in the other. Replace the Latin with Opossum Rex. Just a thought.

Barack Opossum.

The possibilities are endless. This is Opossum's equivalent of a "risky lightbulb scheme."

Posted by: texette at June 20, 2008 09:31 PM (y9V2m)

I bet Michelle was so pleased at this thing that she lubed up the strap on for once.

Everytime I think my opinion of He Who Must Not Be Middle Named can't get any lower, he proves me wrong. Well played, Senator, well played.

I just wish Senor Juan didn't have the same quality.

Posted by: ticticboom at June 20, 2008 09:32 PM (4Wi4r)

51 celsus asinus

Posted by: Jim at June 20, 2008 09:42 PM (LwpHX)

Ecce douchebag

This should be on his seal.

Actually, the old-fashioned "Ecce Homo" works for me.

Posted by: fulldroolcup at June 20, 2008 09:48 PM (CU7SK)

53 Stipendii maxima! Vectigalia maximia!

Posted by: Phinn at June 20, 2008 09:50 PM (MsKUi)

54 This is not the Presidential Seal I knew.

Posted by: George Washington at June 20, 2008 09:54 PM (QuGnf)

55 Although Cicero is telling me it's "vectigalia maxima." Whatever.

Posted by: Phinn at June 20, 2008 09:55 PM (MsKUi)

That whole possum for president thing has been done already:

Pogo for President

"We have met the enemy and he is us" fits the Democrats' view of America about as well as anything.

Posted by: notropis at June 20, 2008 10:09 PM (sZpLh)

"The people are blind and deluded"

If you didn't have a reason to vote for McCain by now, the reaction among the "fraggle wing" of the democratic party if Obama loses will be worth it. I have never seen anybody embrace bullshit ("Hope and change!?!? My god, this is our saviour") the way they have with this guy. His speeches are crap, he lies constantly and his big idea, which is also bullshit, (I will unite america, no more political disagreements. Everybody needs to agree with me because I am so awesome) is a terrible one. Why would america even want to unite behind barry? The closest I can come to "unity" with the fraggle wing of the democratic party is not choking the shit out of them for being retarded.

I understand why black people are going to vote for him, and if you think about the history of the country for a second, voting for the first black president simply because his dad was from Africa is not as stupid as it sounds. I understand why working class whites are going to vote for him. It is the fraggles I have a problem with.

Posted by: bleh at June 20, 2008 10:16 PM (GNCy6)

58 "What does God need with a starship" I mean, why does Obama need a seal of his very own.

Posted by: narciso at June 20, 2008 10:24 PM (XWJh5)

59

Wait a sec, Barry's Dad wasn't a slave, he was from Africa, so in reality, Barry is not the descendant of slaves, he's more the descendant of liberal yuppies than slaves.

Well I'll be hornswoggled. But I have yet to see Barry speak without a prompter or cheat sheet. I thought he was the smartest man alive. Why today, he had to read his response to Johnny's gambit for drilling right from a sheet of fucking paper.

You have GOT TO BE SHITTING ME.

"Oh, just wait a sec Prime Minister, I got a piece of paper here with my notes, hold on please, just a moment...ok, I had it when i left the hotel, where is it? Oh well, let's call this meeting off, I don't have my notes!"

Barry's seal should be his tight slacks and big buljess in the slcaks showing to the foxes, who will sleep with him if they see the how big the bulge is.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller at June 20, 2008 10:26 PM (vFeQi)

60
Hey, let's see if McCain is smart enough to let BHO put that thing on his podium for the debates.

Maybe Obama could get that thing made in gold about 4" around and wear it while he campaigns.

This is the most beautiful thing I've seen in this whole campaign.

Posted by: Ronsonic at June 20, 2008 10:37 PM (ywSvi)

(b) "Whoever, except as authorized under regulations promulgated by the President and published in the Federal Register, knowingly manufactures, reproduces, sells, or purchases for resale, either separately or appended to any article manufactured or sold, any likeness of the seals of the President or Vice President, or any substantial part thereof . . ."

Obama's seal contains a substantial part thereof.

Posted by: Ace's Sock Whore at June 20, 2008 10:40 PM (299nC)

62

Yet again Barry trosts shit out that the lefties CLAIM Bush does...subtle mind manipulation.

they say Mission accomplished? I say, Barry is already using the Seal of the President.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller at June 20, 2008 10:41 PM (vFeQi)

63 Just wondering. Were Obama's parents married when he was born? If not, and he is elected, will he be the first bastard President?

Posted by: Tushar at June 20, 2008 10:50 PM (DWXGz)

64 I second you, Mr. Harmon: "elatus" lacks the pejorative resonance of "arrogant"; however, if you read "elatus" as "exalted," interesting connotations emerge. BTW, "elatus" should be "elati", since "illegitimi" is plural, as well as nominative and masculine. "Elati illegetimi" = "exalted bastards," "elatus illegitimus"= "exalted bastard."

Posted by: Milesdei at June 20, 2008 10:59 PM (ezaF2)

65 An Ivy League elite using Latin in his co-opted seal is trying to pass himself off as caring for the "little people"? How can anyone take him seriously? There is only one reason why he isn't 40+ points behind McCain: nobody wants to be called a racist for not supporting Obama.

Posted by: Aaron at June 20, 2008 11:01 PM (lRuip)

66 The motto doesn't translate to Yes We Can at least the way InterTran translates it. InterTran came up with: In truth To be able

If you lack truth are you able? si vos penuria verum es vos validus?

Posted by: airedale at June 20, 2008 11:26 PM (LZSel)

Whoa- Newsweeks poll now has Barry McBullshit with a 15 point lead

Fuck me! Fuck US!

Posted by: TMF at June 20, 2008 11:56 PM (/YM8H)

68 HEy asshole, check the thread below

Posted by: TMF at June 20, 2008 11:57 PM (/YM8H)

69 There is an even more questionable logo that appears on his website.
If you shift from page to page it briefly appears. Try it and see.
Here's the URL for the image that appears.

http://www.barackobama.com/images/bg.jpg

There is a discussion about the hidden logo here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2005590/posts

An enhanced image can be found here
http://___2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/105be6e2f4.jpg

Note the damaged state of the US shield and the arrows dropped and a spear or arrow piercing the shield. Makes you go hmmmmmm

Posted by: wary at June 21, 2008 12:00 AM (ixWEr)

70 Yeah well- that seal looks like they stole it off a US postage stamp from the mid to late 30's- i.e. FDR's new deal era, the N.R.A. stuff.

Posted by: philately nerd at June 21, 2008 12:21 AM (uM8Gl)

71 I thought it was a spoof from The Onion.
It is like he is playing at being da sherrif with all his little pals.
But don't be picking on his new saying "vero possumus".
Possums are cute when they are young, and they taste great in a gumbo.

Posted by: hunter at June 21, 2008 12:23 AM (FM+rC)

72 Geeze, its a flagpoll.

But I say he is in violation of that statute. As stated above its similiar enough to know what its supposed to be. And its obviously not parody if he really wants the REAL ONE.

My take on Nero Possumous:

Nero = Truth

Possumous = Possum

Playing possum with the Truth

Or

Truth is dead to me.

Posted by: JarvisW at June 21, 2008 12:27 AM (8yPsP)

"If not, and he is elected, will he be the first bastard President?"

For some reason I suspect Andrew Jackson was probably born out of wedlock.

Posted by: bleh at June 21, 2008 12:32 AM (GNCy6)

74 LBJ's parents were married, but he was still a bastard.
Either way, AJ, or LBJ, beat him by a few years.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at June 21, 2008 12:40 AM (TPRbZ)

75 White American's are finally gonna get a chance to buy off their white guilt self abuse by voting for Obama !
and Michele is gonna be America's own Imelda Marcos/ Eva Peron, ?
Don't cry for me A-mer-ica, the truth is they couldn't lov ya better !
Dying by a whimper, f-ing Greek Tragedy/comedy of fools.

Posted by: ron, yankeedoodled at June 21, 2008 12:51 AM (MssmV)

76 #69: WTH? That "hidden" logo looks like a winged penis. Which is admittedly an awesome symbol for the Obama campaign...

Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2008 01:16 AM (pg/HS)

77 Obama's seal, huh?

Hmmmph.

Well, I've got his O! Rings! The Obama condom...

and, like all of O!'s policies and programs, they're free!

Posted by: serr8d at June 21, 2008 02:16 AM (+jem3)

78 Slublog! Elatus Illegitimati is good, but how about "Pablum et Circus." It describes the whole Obama movement. He recites bland platitudes and his supporters frequently act like sideshow acts.

Posted by: Glen at June 21, 2008 05:20 AM (P0yFq)

79 Damn, I wish I could photoshop. I found a great motto for Obama. In 1934, Fiorello La Guardia gave his inauguration speech in which he said "E finita la cuccagna!" or no more free lunch! With a slight alteration, we have Obama's slogan: "Viva la cuccagna!"

Posted by: Glen at June 21, 2008 05:30 AM (P0yFq)

80 Well, I guess the whole "creepy/stupid" debate is resolved as a tie.

Posted by: Merovign at June 21, 2008 05:46 AM (yi5TD)

slu... you're slipping.. where's pooh, eeyore, and piglet presenting a unified Obama front with the unicorn?

Posted by: turtle at June 21, 2008 09:18 AM (mny/g)

82 Now if he had been bumpin fists with an ass up eagle, this would almost make fuckin sense, in a lefty kinda way.

Posted by: forest hunter at June 21, 2008 10:08 AM (ksmop)

83 Is that Barrack Hussein riding "Buraq", Mohammed's winged steed to heaven?

Posted by: Paul at June 21, 2008 10:52 AM (yJjWW)

84 He's unveiling his foreign policy.
Vero Possumus: When attacked, we will play dead.

Posted by: right at June 21, 2008 03:17 PM (EquV1)

How funkin DARE the leftist commiecrats foist this forking muslim bitch on this country, hare DARE they..........

Jeeez Kerry looked 100 times better then this.

What an insulting mess we are all in, other countrys are laughing at us.

My Asian buddies want to all move back to RED china, they are scared and apauled

Posted by: taxman at June 21, 2008 05:25 PM (LDE5j)

86 if he had a wooden leg, he'd be shit on a stick.

Posted by: spear at June 21, 2008 08:51 PM (9uqyo)

87 Has anyone noticed Obama's eagle leans to the left?

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at June 21, 2008 08:58 PM (3116e)

88 Quando omni flunkus moritati.

Posted by: Romberg at June 21, 2008 09:35 PM (AfEqZ)

89 Using the Latin word "Nero" in his motto? Doesn't B.H.O. realize Nero is also the Roman Emperor who started the first major persecution of Christians that included the death of St. Peter and St. Paul?

This may be a clue to his future plans if he becomes president.

Posted by: Aaron at June 21, 2008 10:01 PM (lRuip)

90 And you gotta love the color, a nice UN blue.

Posted by: pdapete at June 21, 2008 10:38 PM (R4jOX)

91 Umm, that's "Vero", not "Nero".

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at June 21, 2008 11:49 PM (3116e)

92 We're in for one hell of a ride!

The progressive fourth estate has been dutifully ginning up crisis after false crisis for the last several years now in hopes that some of their polished turds stick. Any news of American success has been minimized or outright buried as have the words and deeds of our totalitarian enemies. Recently our self-proclaimed shepherds have even begun spit shining their dingy old "moral equivalent of war" rhetoric again.

We're offered salvation through national unity but only within the confines of a carefully constructed house of cards built upon a foundational bedrock of convenient 'anthropogenic' truthiness of their own invention.

Weaponized hope and change for a moral equivalent of Orwellian forever-war.

Enter the Obamessiah with this shiny 'newish' blue eagle logo/seal thingy; strait out of their National Recovery Act salad days.

They're not even trying hard to hide it anymore.
Luckily, therein may lie their undoing.

Meanwhile, hard fascism is rubbing the sleep out of its eyes across the planet yet the deciders collectively continue to distract ferociously in their zeal to promote national concentration of power into their patron's hands...At any expense.

It's deja vu all over again.

Posted by: stxrobstar at June 22, 2008 05:13 AM (cEE8N)

93 Baracky Ramone?

Posted by: Chilly Willy at June 22, 2008 07:57 AM (5MfDU)

94 "Vero", not "Nero"? Oops, I guess the prescription on my glasses ran out.

But, still, Barack's a dick.

Posted by: Aaron at June 22, 2008 01:40 PM (lRuip)

95 Obama...riding a Unicorn with a rainbow in the background? That is SO gay!

Posted by: Macker at June 22, 2008 07:57 PM (4efNV)

Vero Possumus - Does this mean possums in Florida? sorta like Pogo?

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