US Officials: Israel Seems to be Rehearsing for Iran Strike
Israel carried out a major military exercise earlier this month that American officials say appeared to be a rehearsal for a potential bombing attack on Iranís nuclear facilities. Several American officials said the Israeli exercise appeared to be an effort to develop the militaryís capacity to carry out long-range strikes and to demonstrate the seriousness with which Israel views Iranís nuclear program. More than 100 Israeli F-16 and F-15 fighters participated in the maneuvers, which were carried out over the eastern Mediterranean and over Greece during the first week of June, American officials said. ... But the scope of the Israeli exercise virtually guaranteed that it would be noticed by American and other foreign intelligence agencies... to send a clear message to the United States and other countries that Israel was prepared to act militarily if diplomatic efforts to stop Iran from producing bomb-grade uranium continued to falter.A bit of Kabuki, then. Still, somewhere Ron Paul is crying, and that's always good.
We'll know when there's going to be an attack because all the Jews who work in the targeted area will be told to stay home from work. Ron Paul!111!!1That's from a Trufer Retard.
1 The Isrealis let "60 Minutes" in for a dog and pony show recently. They got pretty good coverage from them. Wasn't a hit piece at all. I think that might somehow be related to a "charm offensive"/pressure on the US.
Posted by: XBradTC at June 19, 2008 11:28 PM (kddTy)
2 We really need to narrow this down to either the old site or the new one. Comments aren't synching up and it's hell trying to keep up.
Posted by: XBradTC at June 19, 2008 11:35 PM (kddTy)
3 Israel might just be preparing for an Obama presidency, in which they will have to go it alone against this looming threat. A nation such as Israel cannot be too prepared to shoulder the burdenif the world's super power decides to take another4 to 8year nap.
Posted by: pistolero at June 19, 2008 11:36 PM (hBUN7)
4 Thanks Brad. What is the new site url anyway?
Posted by: pistolero at June 19, 2008 11:37 PM (hBUN7)
5 We'll know when there's going to be an attack because all the Jews who work in the targeted area will be told to stay home from work.
Posted by: 9-11 Troofer Retard at June 19, 2008 11:47 PM (hlYel)
6 It appears to be a bit of saber-rattling... directed at America.
I was hoping that some sort of agreement had already been quietly reached between the U.S. and Israel about when/how they would strike. But I guess I was underestimating the Israelis and overestimating the Bush administration. They'll probably give us an hournotice before the attack begins.
Posted by: Maetenloch at June 19, 2008 11:49 PM (CA825)
7 http://ace.new.mu.nu/Takes you to the new site.
Posted by: XBradTC at June 19, 2008 11:58 PM (kddTy)
8 Ron Paul doesn't cry. Chuck Norris does that for him.
Posted by: PaulTard#1453 at June 20, 2008 12:02 AM (WpOSt)
9 There must bea total of 8 Jews in all of Iran. How many of them do the Paulies think work at Iran's nuclear facilites?
Posted by: Michael R McCullough at June 20, 2008 12:18 AM (sSh8J)
10 i agree with pistolero's comment completely. this is in anticipation of percieved future weakness from the united states in the region. and you know what? ,, theyre right on the money. ""those who would give up liberty for security deserve neither""
Posted by: spear at June 20, 2008 01:21 AM (oejMf)
11 The question is, if Israel did strike, how would their aircraft get there?
The Israelis do have good relations with Turkey, but good enough for a hundred or so aircraft to pass through their airspace with the clear knowledge that they're going to strike Iran?
Heck, those aircraft tankers would probably have to sit aloft for awhile.
Posted by: Timothy Watson at June 20, 2008 01:24 AM (aR5oH)
12 But the scope of the Israeli exercise virtually guaranteed that it would be noticed by American and other foreign intelligence agencies...
They may be assuming a little too much. What are we ...... planning on sending Joe Wilson to Tel Aviv for mint tea and some high level interviews again?
Posted by: pendejo grande at June 20, 2008 01:50 AM (l/U9W)
13 We'll know when there's going to be an attack because all the Jews who
work in the targeted area will be told to stay home from work.
Ron Paul!111!!1Too bad there's only like 5 Jews in Iran and they all work at the same synagogue.
Posted by: Barak Obama at June 20, 2008 05:12 AM (72nfo)
14 "Trufer Retard": The highest pinnacle of repetitious redundancy.
Posted by: Anoni Moose at June 20, 2008 05:45 AM (WP32H)
15 Wait, Israel would never bomb Iran since they would risk losing the overwhelming support and sympathy of the international community, especially the UN, which is completely in the tank for the Jews....and of course the historically pro-Israel countries like France, Germany, China, Russia, UK, the entire middle eastern Jew-loving states and Indonesia.
Why risk a backlash amoung the hundreds of millions of Muslims around the world that love and cherish Israel?
Posted by: James at June 20, 2008 05:54 AM (6nAEb)
16 The idea the Israel (or the US) risks anything like a "devasting" response from Iran and it's proxies is complete crap and this fact is already being acknowledge (albiet underground) in diplomatic circles.
The idea that thousands of sleeper cells are waiting to retaliate is nonsense, as these cells are already actively trying to conduct terror attacks but are being constantly thwarted by various national and international intelligence agencies. Publicly, even the UK Home Office admits to constant cracking and undermining of domestic terror ops, the numbers (dozens per month) clearly illustrating that rather than lying in wait, these groups are trying daily to plan and carry out attacks.
As long as Israel doesn't bomb an orphanage or pet shop, any attack on Iran's nuclear facilities will be met by deafening silence. Even Hez will not necessarily launch a full-scale attack, because unlike 2006, Israel would in this case respond will massive force instead of the pathetic dribble of "proportional" force that enfuriated the State Department at that time. Ditto for Hamas in Gaza. In that case, simply fully and completely stopping food and fuel supplies would silence that shithole in 48-hours maximum.
No, I think the only folks who know how close they are to getting bombed is the Iranian regime...only they know how truly empty thier response will and can truely be.
Posted by: James at June 20, 2008 06:05 AM (6nAEb)
17 From a military standpoint, Israel cannot hope to prevail against Iran on its own resources. It can't even neutralize Iran's nuclear facilities by its own power...unless it makes use of its own nuclear weapons.
Washington knows this, and considers it unacceptable, and Jerusalem knows that.
The United States must commit itself to military action if it wants to prevent the Iranian regime from acquiring The Bomb. Israel, whose existence is at stake,is doing the only thing it can do to bring that commitment about.
We shall see.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at June 20, 2008 06:12 AM (GY/ii)
18 "this is in anticipation of percieved future weakness from the united states in the region."
The politically US is giving mixed messages on their support of Israel. We are bending over backwards to accomodate any rat bag in our efforts to obtian a peace agrement between Israel and whoever.
Posted by: davod at June 20, 2008 06:13 AM (llh3A)
19 Oh, and spare me the "blocking of oil" or "oil will skyrocket" arguement. And so what if it does? A nice recession in the US would do wonders for thier spoiled citizenry...and would bring home fully and completely how dependant the rest of the world is on Americans constantly buying shit from the rest of the world.
Do you ever stop and think about the crap that we buy every day...and how much? My God, nowadays if we aren't shopping at least 2-3 times a week, making a "craving" purchase to satisfy some emotional need, it's like we haven't lived. Aside from food, I bet the average American buys some leisure product at least once per week. Do you remember your parents bringing home some gadget every week?
For the most part, most of this junk is made overseas, in countries that regulary and reflexively criticize, oppose, obstruct and denegrate US policy, culture and lifestyle at every turn...all the while cashing our cheques.
I hope oil goes to $200+ per barrel. Fuck, make it $1000 per barrel. Let's see China obstruct the UN over Darfur, Zimbabwe, etc when they've got 25% unemployment...
Man I've got the munchies...
Posted by: James at June 20, 2008 06:16 AM (6nAEb)
20 ive got oreos
Posted by: spear at June 20, 2008 07:35 AM (IaLlE)
21 "Abe! The Jew Phone is ringing! We get the day off again!"
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at June 20, 2008 07:36 AM (wMX+M)
22 I wonder what the pretext for the unprovoked attack will turn out to be.
I wonder how long Americans would tolerate a totalitarian state, a couple hundred miles away, building a nuke in defiance of international agreements with the stated purpose of using it to turn the US into a "stinking corpse"? Probably until they nuked a major city and even then half the country would want to understand the root causes that led them to strike us. Fortunately, the Israeli have a lower threshold for provocation.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2008 09:14 AM (VBon8)
23 It can't even neutralize Iran's nuclear facilities by its own power
All it takes to stop a centrifuge is to stop its motor from spinning though. Stop the electricity, and you stop the centrifuge.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 20, 2008 09:15 AM (dcqty)
24 All it takes to stop a centrifuge is to stop its motor from spinning though. Stop the electricity, and you stop the centrifuge.
And its not like there are any nuke plants to hit either, likely all conventional powerplants. And hell Iran has what, like one oil refinery? They import almost all of their gas. Blow that up, their powerplants, roads and substations, drop a couple bunkerbusters on the known nuclear facilities. Its not like Israel is going to be concerned with minimizing infrastructure damage like we were in Iraq. Hell this time it won't be a bug its a feature.
Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2008 09:29 AM (Lrsi6)
25 Blow that up, their powerplants, roads and substations
Just drop a few transmission line towers going to the centrifuge facility and hit it's substation (it will undoubtedly have its own substation). No need to inconvenience the rest of the populace in the area by shutting off all their power.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 20, 2008 09:37 AM (dcqty)
26 Just drop a few transmission line towers going to the centrifuge facility and hit it's substation (it will undoubtedly have its own substation). No need to inconvenience the rest of the populace in the area by shutting off all their power.
I'm thinking longer term strategy. You hit the powerlines, and they can get them back up, or run alternate paths that you might not be able to hit. So knock out their power plants and it doesn't matter where the lines are running. They also are quite likely to have back up generators. But those will need some sort of fuel to run, so take out the roads and make it impossible to get to those facilities.
I don't think Israel has a need to be concerned about inconveniencing the populace. I mean what are the going to do? Hate them more? Decide that Israel is actually The Great Satan instead of The Little Satan? I mean don't go carpet bombing towns and villages, but if they can't turn on their lights, then oh well.
Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2008 10:00 AM (Lrsi6)
27 This kind of stuff is bs. We support Israel's military 100%. They shouldn't try to stage exercises to force us to intervene. Everyone knows if they attack Iran it will create chaos for the U.S. mission in Iraq and lead to further attacks against Israel and the United States.An Israeli attackwill strain relations with allies like Egypt, Turkey, Jordan, etc.
Basically, they are saying, "If the U.S. doesn't do what we say, we will derail your strategy."
Either they are our ally and support us for all the aid we provide or they get treated just like any other country. But this kind of treatment from a friend seems like a betrayal.
Posted by: gman at June 20, 2008 10:03 AM (8j82b)
28 Don't forget that Israel has ballistic missiles, too. The Jericho III may be online and could strike anywhere in Iran from Israel. The Jericho II can reach western Iran from Israel but is road-mobile and so perhaps could be unloaded from an innocuous looking freighter on some desolate Omani beach in the middle of the night and launched against any place in Iran. The air refueling logistics of a conventional air strike against targets in Iran are formidable as mentioned earlier, but it would make a credible feint for a missile attack, especially from an unexpected quarter as suggested here.
Posted by: MainiacJoe at June 20, 2008 10:12 AM (UHMRA)
29 As an investor and part time military man, I'm with gman. Shit or get off the pot, Israel--with all the pressures on oil prices and the consequent destruction of wealth in the non-oil producing, industrially productiveworld, the overt saber rattling pretty much antagonizes everyone.
If the US had any sort of covert warfighting capacity, we'd be in Iran right now destroying crops, engaging in industrial sabotage, engaging in biological warfare, etc. to break their economy, just like they're breaking ours.
Maybe Israel can do us all a favor and take out Washington.
Posted by: Xeno at June 20, 2008 10:13 AM (o/1nd)
30 The Israeli Air Force....doing the job the UN and the US won't do. But hey, if the Iranians get the bomb we can all wring our hands and cry really well.
Posted by: GarandFan at June 20, 2008 10:22 AM (eJ32B)
31 They used Greece as a practice target?
Gee, it's like they have no respect for the EU.
Posted by: Bob Hawkins at June 20, 2008 12:24 PM (pnBkj)
32 Damned J... uh, I mean Zionists! How dare they launch an unprovoked attack against the peaceful sovereign nation of Iran?
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33 Any overt attack will probably be used as acover for themor accuratecovert attack.
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