1 The most believable explanation I've heard is that he has a tape of her saying, Why'd he do this; Why'd he do that -- which sounds like Whitey do this; Whitey do that.

2 Roger Stone, professional gadfly, was on Fox saying he's heard that a network already has the tape but who knows.

All I can say is....please let this be true.

3 Following along with GRC, that means there's a 'longer tape', where you find out who 'he' is (Say, GWB). And releasing that tape will make everyone screaming about 'whitey' look like buffoons.

IOW: There's clearly something fishy about this tape. The the D's run around with their hair on fire and run off at the mouth.

4 It's either bogus or thermonuclear.

5

Probably nothing. Just a family in the church named the Whiteys she didn't like much.

Ya know, like this but backwards.

 

6 Dan Rather has it. 

7 "Let's play global thermonuclear war"

8 I don't think any Obama supporter will care if Michelle says whitey a couple of times. If she hasn't offended you yet then you are not going to get offended. The only thing that would shock anybody is if she had a moment of clarity and blurted out my husband is not ready to be president and frankly I think Bush did a pretty good job.

9 Here's the video of Stone. Stone believes the tape exists, as he's been contacted by at least 7 news networks.

Why is Geraldo so sure it doesn't exist, especially since Obama's been attending a church that says worse for over 20 years?

10 One thing to keep in mind is if there is a tape why would the GOP let it out just as Hillary didn't win the delegate fight this weekend and not save it for the more effective October date?

If there is a tape releasing it now only helps one person and that is Hillary - if there is a tape she has it and is trying to release it with no fingerprints hence the Rove- doctor Evil character.

recall that robert Novak wrote last November

--
Agents of Sen. Hillary Clinton are spreading the word in Democratic circles that she has scandalous information about her principal opponent for the party's presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, but has decided not to use it. The nature of the alleged scandal was not disclosed.

This word-of-mouth among Democrats makes Obama look vulnerable and Clinton look prudent. It comes during a dip for the front-running Clinton after she refused to take a stand on New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer's now discarded plan to give driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

Experienced Democratic political operatives believe Clinton wants to avoid a repetition of 2004, when attacks on each other by presidential candidates Howard Dean and Richard Gephardt were mutually destructive and facilitated John Kerry's nomination.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/novak/655729,CST-EDT-novak18.article

11 Probably nothing. Just a family in the church named the Whiteys she didn't like much.

Or she may be talking about Beaver's little friend - Whitey Whitney.

12 Would it really make a difference if Michelle Obama's revelation were a) true and b) exposed? Doesn't everyone already know both Barack's and his wife's position on White America? Um, TUCC, people. Democrat Chicago politics, too. Twenty years of that sh*t.

Exactly how many bombshells passes does this pair get before they're dismissed for the frauds they are? We know the answer. As many as it takes.

   Cardboard Cutout '08  

13 Don't hate the whitey. Hate the game.

14 Buy on the rumor, sell on the news

15 IF it exists,  my bet is that it shows her in church. Wright is going off on a rant about Whitey where he lists all the things Whitey has done and asks the congregation each time "Who did it?" and they dutifully answer "Whitey did it". Sort of like a Responsorial Psalm for Catholics. Such back and forth is common in Black churches, though not usually about Whitey.

It's impact if true? His campaign is over. Not just because what was said but because it proves he was lying about not being there or knowing about the really bad stuff Wright was saying. Which was a total crock to begin with but the MSM will be unable to provide cover any longer.

16

"which sounds like Whitey do this; Whitey do that."

Wouldn't she say "Why he do this, why he do that?"

I heard there's a tape of Kimbo Slice at TUCC screaming about getting raped over and over again by Why He.

Who is this Why He fella? Sounds Asian.

17 This is an old political trick. Make a claim and a sizable portion of the voters will believe it's true even if no tape ever surfaces. If there really is a tape then all the better.

18 Doesn't  "Whitey"  mean  "distraction" in Ebonics?

19

Posted by: Lamontyoubigdummy at June 01, 2008 08:52 PM (GrBA3)

 

I've never seen that before. Holy Crap, Chappelle is one funny SOB.

20

"Whitey?"  That's it?

Hell I was hoping someone would tell me that they had a tape of her turning a few tricks in the Combat Zone for bong hits, or something equally juicy...

pffft.

21 Exactly how many bombshells passes does this pair get before they're dismissed for the frauds they are? We know the answer. As many as it takes.

True. But it still makes for some great one-liners.

22 The suspense is killing me.  I hope it lasts.

23

If Obama didn't like what those guys were saying, why didn't he leave?

Signed,
Scott "Lumpy" McLellan

24

I could no more disown my wife than I could my grandmother, or leave my church, or .....

ah, fuck it, rev up the bus again.

25 Would it really make a difference if Michelle Obama's revelation were a) true and b) exposed? Doesn't everyone already know both Barack's and his wife's position on White America?

Yes, we already suspect Michelle's beliefs are screwed up, but it's the visual (if it exists) that will sell it. 

Think how the various pastor disasters have been driven by the visuals. 

Those videos of Rev. Wright shouting about "chickens coming home to roost" and  Fr. Pfleger shuckin' and jivin' like he's in minstrel act on an antebellum Mississippi showboat are way more convincing and devestating when you watch them, then if you read a second-hand report, or hear a rumor.

So, if this hypothetical "Michelle Hates Whitey" video exists (which is very doubtful) and it's going to be big.

26 If it does come out too you know it came from the Clintons no matter what Johnson says. That is the only explanation for the timing. She was waiting to see if the Supers turned because of her momentum but they aren't and Obama has enough to go over the goal line Tuesday. The committee meetings showed that. This is her last shot.

27 I could no more disown my wife than I could my grandmother, or leave my church, or .....

ah, fuck it, rev up the bus again.

-- Barack Obama

EPIC WIN

28 Hate Crimes: The Whitey Did It?

FBI statistics for victims show 722 Hispanic hate crime victims. But the stats for hate criminals show none.

Where are the Latinos?! The definition shows that Hispanics count as a separate category for victims, but part of the white race when it comes to criminals.

29 I gotta go with Rocks on that. And I sure believe there would be a tape of Michelle screaming about Whitey.

Look at Trinity. The clowns up there (Moss, Pfleger/Father Vanilla Ice, Wright) get a frenzied reaction from their insanity. The congregation eats it up and clearly they love it. Like a WWE Wrestler getting over in front of a screaming crowd. Same thing. Same high.

Of course Michelle wanted some of that. You all can see how jealous she is that her husband overshadows her, can't you? She could not resist getting up there and screaming her lungs out about Whitey.

Why hasn't this dropped before? Because it's the Republican nuclear bomb, they'd want it in Sep-Oct. For Hillary, this is her last shot but it will cost her. Makes sense to keep it in reserve. Poison Obama's electability if nothing else, go to a fight in Denver in August.

30 We all Know that Michelle O lives in her own personal, self imposed hell.

Let's see the video or forever hold our peace...

31 Barack has decided he needs a change. He be leavin'.

32 It seems to me some people don't know how to take a compliment! Whitey DID this, Whitey DID that...

As a person who has had few individual accomplishments, this works for me.

That's Mr. Whitey!

33

I'm sure that when she got up there, she was the ONLY person to not go all faggy and start screeching like that Seigfried and Roy dude getting bit on the head by a tiger..

I'm sure she was as staid as a nun.

Sure she was.

Barry can no more disown his Pastor than he could disown this bunch of arugula.

34

It's either there or not.  We'll see.  If it does exist, I will be forever convinced that Ted Stevens has a more sophisticated grasp of the workings and impact of the innertubes than Obama's staff.

Related:  Has the presumptive nominee of a party ever headed to the convention after getting his butt repeatedly kicked this late in the primary season?  I've never seen it and I can remember all the way back to '68 (LBJ's "I will not seek" speech is my first political memory).

That fact coupled with the vicious 180 the other half of the Democratic Party has done on the Clintons--gee, did anyone here know they are ruthless and egotistical?--makes for great political theater.

35 Didn't read the other comments...

I heard Sean Hannity on the radio the other day on the way home, and he seemed to all but say he had a tape on Michelle and would air it when he deemed appropriate.

Oddly enough, he started the monologue off by laughing about how some in the nutroots were saying he had such a tape and was deviously holding it back until just before the election to create an October Surprise to steal the election.

But, then he went from ridiculing the conspiracy theorist angle to pretty much saying he had such a tape and was justified in releasing it when he thought it was by best...

He started the shift with, "If I had such a tape" --- but I wish I had a transcript handy, because by the time he finished, the tone and wording pretty much erased the "if" idea.

36 If its real and as bad as claimed, Obama had to know that it or something similar could exist out in the wild in someone's file cabinet waiting for the day it would emerge and smite him.

That he'd run for the presidency knowing something like that (if its true) is rather shocking and exhibits a world class level of hubris. He of all people, should know that politics on this level is played using Chicago Rules©.

37 ...and they almost certainly wouldn't wait until Barack Obama has clinched the nomination to release it....

On the contrary. I would. Just to raise the DNC temperature...

38 If this video exists, it would be on YouTube, not Larry Johnson....

39 Quick google of the news found this.

It has a link that eventually takes you to an audio cut of the Hannity Show I was talking about.

The blog post writer also speculates that Hannity would play it if he did have it.

I don't know.

Hannity already makes a lot of money and is popular in his target audience.  I can easily see him hold off on a tape for political/voter reasons ---- if he thought there was little chance a tape of the same thing would come out.

40 Larry Johnson has always been

(a) a slimy doucherocket

and

(b) full of shit.

So why is this time going to be any different? There's no "there" there, folks.

41 Where did this specific rumor start?

42 If this video exists, it would be on YouTube, not Larry Johnson...

The Clinton's needed a deniable cutout (or several of them) to do the deed. 

YouTube  is owned by Google.  Google is in the tank for Obama.  Anything this volatile wouldn't last 5 minutes on YouTube.

43

I think the tape does exist. And Obama has allready started his response.

1. Have Father Phlemler do a whitey against whitey rant at TUCC.

2. Resign from the church 2 days before the tape hits.

3. Blame Michelles whitey rant on the white father Phlemler

Problem solved.

Next

44 The blog post writer also speculates that Hannity would play it if he did have it.

I wouldn't, not right now.  I would even explicitly deny having it, but I'd make sure a dozen copies were buried all over the country.

I think the bit about the Clinton Campaign calling Hannity looking for it is probably true, but just covering their tracks and establishing deniability that they were the source.  The Clintons know that Hannity knows Obama is easier to beat in November, so Hannity wouldn't give it to them unless they were willing to pay a very high price, and then he wouldn't advertise the fact that he was selling out to help Hillary.

45 Let's play a different game...what was the price tag on that video? If I had it...let's start the bidding at 10 million?

46 Purple, we think alike.

47 what was the price tag on that video?

Trust me.  You don't want to know.

48 Do I have to say it again Whitey?
THIS is not helping my children!

49 What the hell's up with comments getting deleted?

Is this Daily Kos?

50 Sometimes when an update to a post is added, the existing comments seem to disappear for a while (unless of course, one was genuinely deleted).  Then they come back. 

To get it to work flawlessly every time seems to involve a goat sacrifice and chicken feathers.

51 thebronze, usually, when comments are deleted here it's because of something really bad.

Without quoting the deleted comment, can you summarize it?  Also, it may have been from someone who was banned (and it takes an awful lot of asshole-ness to get banned here... an awful lot).

Of course, the spam filter may have nabbed a false positive.

52

Following along with GRC, that means there's a 'longer tape', where you find out who 'he' is (Say, GWB). And releasing that tape will make everyone screaming about 'whitey' look like buffoons.

IOW: There's clearly something fishy about this tape. The the D's run around with their hair on fire and run off at the mouth.

I agree.  Remember that this is Larry Johnson, who hates republicans way, way more than he could ever hate Obama.  And he's still saying that the tape was obtained by "GOP operatives" or whatever.  Conservatives need to stay far away from this whole story.

53 Is this the tape talking about Barry & Michelle in a three-way with a gay man?  Or is it the tape about the cocaine dealer?

54 I think that it is very unlikely that Michelle Obama has never said things publicly that would destroy her husband's Presidential ambitions. From the ambling, barely literate Princeton thesis through TUCC - it is clear that she is captivated by race and blood libel and rectifying what she perceives as injustice. I'll go out on a limb and assume that her "community activism" and such grants her repeated opportunities to make such public statements before ideologically friendly audiences, for instance audiences in which Obama's terrorist chums, or Father Phlager would feel comfortable. The only question is - were the words ever fimed, and, if so, are they now in hands that would not suppress them in order to help Obama, assuming that 90% of the press would reason that Obama's whitey hatin' wife isn't fair game, in the way that he himself claimed. Macaca be damned. Also, if it exists, it most likely occurred or was uncovered after the 2004 Senate race against Alan Keyes, because if GOP operatives had it then, they would have used it to stain him and suppress his Presidential ambitions at that time. I think that it is time to bring Liddy and the Cubans out of retirement.

55 Alec,

Please, for the love of god, use paragraphs.

56 "If there is a tape releasing it now only helps one person and that is Hillary"

Exactly.  GOP loyalists would be doing everything possible to hold this until after the convention.  Conservatives who hate McCain, OTOH...

57 As much as i'd like this to be true, i gotta agree that Larry Johnson just can't be believed. Even MSNBC stopped putting him on the air a few years ago because he was such a nutcase.

58 Hannity was referring to Maureen Dawd.

And if Hannity turns out not to have a big tape on Obama or his wife after the comment he made, he was being too weasley for me...

59 Also, if it exists, it most likely occurred or was uncovered after the 2004 Senate race against Alan Keyes, because if GOP operatives had it then, they would have used it to stain him and suppress his Presidential ambitions at that time.

I wouldn't have wasted a weapon of that magnitude trying to resurrect a dead horse like Keyes.  Once fired, it becomes "old news" and less shocking every time its fired in the future.

60 If I come in as comment number 55, then my two cents gets us up to $1.10. so here goes my conspiracy theory:

First of all, I highly doubt this tape exists. Now to the conspiracy if it does...

It's safe to assume if Hillary had it, that she would have used it long ago to get Obama out of the campaign. So, if it's real, then the Republicans have it. If they released it months ago, then they would have effectively helped Hillary win and she matches up better against McCain and could beat him. So they couldn't have released it earlier.

If they hold out for an October surprise, they will get killed by the media for pulling a typical racist  Republican dirty trick. This would nearly guarantee Obama the Presidency. They need to have this tape out there, but keep their fingerprints off of it.

There fore, release it now. It will be too late to help Hillary win the nomination, so they won't have to fear running and losing to her in November. It will keep their hands clean of the whole affair and will most likely be chalked up as a typical Clinton dirty trick. Plus, it will dirty up Obama enough to beat him in the general without having to pull an October surprise.

They can run a clean campaign against a weakened candidate.

61 Don't know who Larry Johnson is but I did follow the links, seems like an opportunist. It really wasn't clear if he said he was going to post the video or just something...SOMETHING!!!!

62 I wouldn't have wasted a weapon of that magnitude trying to resurrect a dead horse like Keyes.

I agree.  It wasn't clear in '04 Obama was going to be this big and even if a tape like this was put out, Keyes was losing by a massive margin. I liked the guy at one point, but by then he had gone over the deep end.  Any effort along these lines would have been a waste of time.

63 It's safe to assume if Hillary had it, that she would have used it long ago to get Obama out of the campaign.

Not really. 

She was hoping to win without having to use nuclear weapons, and she wanted Obama undamaged when he returned to the senate. 

As things got more desperate, more desperate measures were called for.  Keeping a still popular and untainted Obama in the senate has to fall by the wayside if she still want to win the nomination now.  She's perfectly willing to risk Obama losing to a senate challenger next time around if it'll get her to the top now that the "easy way" isn't going to happen.

One of the fundamental rules of business and politics is you don't burn bridges you don't NEED to burn.

64 It's plausible that such a tape could exist. But I'll believe it when I see it; not before.

65 I have to go back to the Hannity comments...heard the same broadcast...he doesn't usually tease unless there is something.

Might be a huge let down but there does seem to be some video out there.

66 "But I'll believe it when I see it; not before."

I'm even more skeptical than that on this potential tape.

67 I'm skeptical. Besides, the true believers will just say it isnt Obama, it's just a distraction and by the general election, that's old news. Though if it's true, may show how small and commited the true believe category for him really is.

68 Don't know who Larry Johnson is but I did follow the links, seems like an opportunist.

His claim to fame was during the run up to Iraq. The media used him pretty heavily and presented him as a non-partisan, credible, ex-CIA analyst. Of course, all he did was bash Bush so his non-partisan status eventually went out the window. He  got progressively more strident and started to come across as a wack job so the media stopped using him and now he's pretty much relegated to his blog.

69

I agree.  It wasn't clear in '04 Obama was going to be this big and even if a tape like this was put out, Keyes was losing by a massive margin.

I think that you are giving Obama too much prominence retrospectively. The CW at that time was Kerry was going to win, (Kerry would then have had 8 years of being the President and then nominee takes you to 2012) then it would be Hillary's turn, so, as a GOP dirty trickster, would you really sit on a tape untill 2016 or 2020 just to have it when and if he ran? In 2004 he was being talked about as a "someday when he has experience" player, not the very next nominee.

Keyes was a replacement nominee - Jack Ryan ran a lot closer with Obama, and only dropped out at the end of July, 2004. Thus, I think if GOP operatives had it at that time (most likely the Ryan Campaign) I doubt they would have held on to it without taking a parting shot at him, or without it leaking from the Ryan Campaign and being used in the Senate race. Obama really was small potatos then, and you could have made him a "never was," far left Senator from Illinois for his entire career.

70 His claim to fame was during the run up to Iraq. The media used him pretty heavily and presented him as a non-partisan, credible, ex-CIA analyst.

Seems about right, didn't really give me a feeling he had much creds. Too breathless about the whole thing.

Disclaimer, I have felt sorry for Obama ever since I saw his wife...dear god!

71 The more ya think about this the more it makes you wonder. Maybe this tape has been kicking around awhile with Dem insiders. It could have leaked to the Repubs but it would be hard for them to use it. Any 527 is going to be eviscerated by the MSM this year and McCain hates 'em so that route will be less productive this year. No Repub higher up would touch it, certainly not McCain. Maybe the big Dems have known about it awhile but are thinking the Clitnton's wouldn't use it? The MSM would crucify them. Perhaps that's what the Vanity Fair hit piece on Bill is about, a shot across the bow. Pull this trigger and your dubious legacy and million dollar speaking fees go out the window. I think there may be a big friggin game of chicken going on right now between the Clinton's and the rest of the party big wigs.
I wouldn't play chicken with Billy Jeff, would you?

72 Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 02, 2008 12:03 AM (DAQ9

I don't think they'd make a concerted effort to save it to later (as some sort of plot for '16 or '20), I just don't think there was much of an effort for getting this in the first place.

If I remember the race correctly, Ryan was set to trounce Obama for most of the time he was in it (in which case it was a waste of time) and, then, after he got knocked out, there was belated effort to find somebody and they settled on Keyes who never did that well in the polls and somewhat alienated the rest of the party in the process (in which case it was also a waste of time).  It's specifically because I do think Obama was small potatoes back then that I don't think there was much of a dirty tricks operation against him.

It's somewhat moot in that I am skeptical, I just don't think this knocks it out of contention.

73

She was hoping to win without having to use nuclear weapons, and she wanted Obama undamaged when he returned to the senate. 

Or ran as her VP.  But things just got away from her with the swooning for the empty suit purveyor of change...

I still say either the tape is "why he do that" and not "whitey" IF it exists at all....and that conservatives need to stay as far away from the story as possible.  IF it exists, it needs to come out of the Clinton camp, and only the Clinton camp...no "right wing attack machine" fingerprints can be found anywhere around it.

74 Well, given her past performances, can anyone here doubt she hasn't ever run off on a rant against "whitey" or whatever more current and colorful term she might have actually used?  I regard it as a certainty... the only question is whether is was recorded or not.

75 Show me the Money

76

Problem is, the black community has never had a derogatory tag to use on whitey as bad as the one whitey has to use on the black community (I hesitate to insert blacky in that last -black community- for some reason). The N-word is the most devastating racial slur out there; period. Whitey dosn't even come close.

I don't see her or anyone else close to OHB saying whitey as having that much of an impact on the election. Come on, most white folks hear whitey or whitebread or gringo or honkey or...whatever and  just go about their business. I laugh.

Now a new, horrid, nasty, dehumanizing term for whitey might be in order, to level the playing field shall we say.

Or maybe she didn't say it...whatever.

 

77 thebronze, usually, when comments are deleted here it's because of something really bad.
Without quoting the deleted comment, can you summarize it?  Also, it may have been from someone who was banned (and it takes an awful lot of asshole-ness to get banned here... an awful lot).
Of course, the spam filter may have nabbed a false positive.

Here's what I originally posted:
____________________________________________________________

Probably nothing. Just a family in the church named the Whiteys she didn't like much.

Ya know, like this but backwards.

"I know how you Whitey's are!"

____________________________________________________________

Seriously, why did that get deleted? 
Is that worse than some of the crap on here? 
And it did get posted, it didn't get caught up in some spam-filter.

Who just arbitrarily deletes posts around here?  This is getting a little ridiculous.

78 I am shocked, shocked, to find my wife holds these views. 

79 I'm skeptical due to the hyper-competitive nature of the news business. Real scoops are rarely telegraphed in advance.

If this tape exists and has somehow been circulating only in high-level political circles and is so radioactive that the "spiller" would be sure to suffer negative consequences, then maybe the story has some merit - maybe it had to be somehow laundered through a media outlet to disguise the original source.

The Larry Johnson connection doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

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OT test: How does the html work here, anyway? Is it standard or that weird old ubb-type code with [i]the brackets?[/i] Or what?

80 RE OT test:

Hartsfeld,

HTML is only available via the text input box with the formatting buttons doing the styling. Trying to work around that will only cause the backend script to strip your HTML out.

Security feature no doubt. Don't waste your time trying to circumvent it. It retains only limited formatting using lots of <span>'s in strict mode.

81 HTML is only available via the text input box with the formatting buttons doing the styling. Trying to work around that will only cause the backend script to strip your HTML out.

Thank you, but hmmm. No formatting buttons appear anywhere. Is it possible that this one of those sites that's not cross-platform, cross-browser-compatible? Do any of those sites still exist?

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More testing, just because:

h2 tag
bold type with b tag
alternative bold type with strong tag
italic type with i tag
alternative italic type with em tag
link to CNN with a href tag

82 I know from the outside (sane) world it would look monumentally stupid to be ranting about Whitey(tm) when you are the wife of a Presidential Candidate or even just a Senatorial one.

However ... look at what's already come out. That church and that community (Farrakhan's district -- he lives there) are like a WWE crowd whipped up by the villains. Except instead of booing they cheer.

Michelle Obama would love that adulation. It's like a drug. It makes otherwise sensible people do stupid things. Just like tawdry sex led Jimmy Swaggart to a cheap Metarie motel. Heck look at all the WWE wrestlers who abuse their bodies terribly, roid up, take brutal falls, etc. just to get that applause. The crowd rocking.

I fully believe Michelle Obama would stand up there and rant, and Barack would not find anything wrong with it, would clap along, give her a big hug when done, and never actually think it would be dangerous.

Because in their circles, it's not.

Clearly Obama does not and still does not understand either the YouTube dangers (see Michael Richards) that anyone with a video cellphone present, or how ordinary people react to being called racist yahoos by the Candidates wife.

83 HTML is only available via the text input box with the formatting buttons doing the styling.

Unless, say, you are using Firefox with the NoScript plug in and disallow minx.cc. Then you can do it old school. Just sayin'.

84 "Don't know who Larry Johnson is"

He's most famous for (1) writing an editorial months before 9/11 claiming that al-Qaeda wasn't a threat, (2) conspiracy-mongering and making threats against a commenter.

So he's a retard AND a douche.

85

"In politics, if it's out there, it's already out there."

Not necessarily. In 2000, the Democrats reserved the announcement of George W. Bush's DUI arrest until they felt it would have a maximum impact. In 2004, the Old Media tried to reserve the al-Qaqaa breaking story in a similar fashion, and only failed to do so by two days' time.

Political strategists are well versed in the timing of destructive news. The main questions here are: Does the tape exist? If so, who has it? The identity and allegiance of the holder would determine the timing considerations.

 

86 Hartsfeld: Looks like you found the basics so you won't need the toolbar. You should see the toolbar with various functions. Maybe the javascript is getting filtered.

VRWC Agent: "Unless, say, you are using Firefox with the NoScript plug in and disallow minx.cc..."

A-ha! I use Firefox, usually, but haven't bothered skipping the JS code. Too much trouble to toggle it on/off. I'm just that lazy.

87

" The N-word is the most devastating racial slur out there; period. Whitey dosn't even come close."

Yeah, that's why black people use it so often.

I can't picture Laura Bush using that ward, but I can sure as shit see Michelle screaming about how White He doing her wrong.

88 RE: N-word.

Well, there's the C-word. No, not that one. The one that can be used without the autonomic condemnation. "Cracker." Because insulting The Man is OK... or at least more OK.

It's in the intent of use that matters, and the C-word is at the same level as the N-word to me if used as the epithets they were intended to be. No race gets a special word that makes their insult that much worse than everyone else's and, consequently, more deserving of special consideration.

89 Its not the word, its the emotion behind it if there is any. 

That N-word is a direct translation of "black" from the original Latin which is a basis of much of the vocabulary used in the romance languages.  French, Spanish, Italian all use a similar sounding derivation of the Latin (although the French noir is much further astray than the others, but then again that's typically French).

The direct translation of "black" to German is "schwarze" which I think is equal to the N-word in offending potential.  Its employment in that manner is pretty common in countries that have Germanic derivations (most of the Scandis)

90 If this tape is genuine, Obama will make it worse. His biggest problem hasn't been that he's surrounded himself with radical Marxists, racist black nationalists, and sneering limousine liberals... it's that when he gets called out on it, he really does not understand what all the hubbub is about. To quoth the Obamabard, "I got in trouble for saying what everyone knows is true."

91

Reality Check folks. The mass of American voters has already decided they dont give a fuck about this shit. Bush lied and people died and all that. Oh, and recession. And waterboarding or something.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

I really dont see any way for Johnny Mc to win the EV.

He has to win Ohio, thats a given, but its gonna be close. Im in PA and I dont care what this tape shows if it exists, McCain has no shot here. Its full on blue everywhere in the state now. PA is the new NY.

So where does McCain pick up the votes? NH? Doubtful. MN? Nah, too lefty. Shit, Al fuckin' Franken has a shot at being US SEnator there.

The country wants change and theys a gonna GIT IT

92 OT tech note, just in case it's of interest: Nope, no toolbar appears, no javascript or anything at all blocked except popups.

OS X 10.5.3, Safari 3.1.1

93

Larry's info is up.

94

And it says what exactlY?

95 I learned over the weekend why the Republicans who have seen the tape of Michelle Obama ranting about “whitey” describe it as “STUNNING.” I have not seen it but I have heard from five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape. It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church when Michelle makes her intemperate remarks.
-no quarter

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Oh, I see. It the rethugglikkans.

So when it comes out in the fall (if ever), its an evil GOP ploy.

If it never comes out, maybe the rumour scares the superdelegates into going HIllary.

The guy still has chops (despite being crazy as a shithouse loon)

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I learned over the weekend why the Republicans who have seen the tape of Michelle Obama ranting about “whitey” describe it as “STUNNING.” I have not seen it but I have heard from five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape. It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church when Michelle makes her intemperate remarks. Whoops!! When that image comes out it will enter the politcal ads hall of fame. It will be right up there with the little girl plucking daisy petals in the famous 1964 ad LBJ used against Barry Goldwater.

Barack may have quit his church but his religious problems are not over. Barack Obama has a Nation of Islam problem that will receive more attention in the coming days.

It will make a great general campaign ad that's for sure but it's not much help to Hillary even if it comes out today. Half the DNC were probably at that meeting, or their reps.

Illinois: Nation of Islam and  Nazis....just what the hell are they putting in the water there anyway?

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Heh...

I just looked at that site and man o man are people pissed! All the above (here) posters who figured this guy was a piece who has nothing, pat yourselves on the back or collect bets.

Even snake-oil salesmen sold something. This guy just has the description of the oil.

Lame isn't even the word for it.

99 Supposed quote from a number of sites:

“Once again, the white man keeps us down, what’s up with Whitey, Why’d he attack Iraq, Why’d he let Katrina happen, Why’d he leave millions of children behind. This is the legacy the white man gives us”

Probably the Whitey is a stammer and she said "Why'd he" twice.

Again this is not much help to Hillary but it is gold for the general election.

 

100 More?:

From what I understand, it is a tape of Michelle Obama criticizing the Bush administration.

How you'd write it:

Why did Bush cut folks off medicaid?
Why did Bush let New Orleans drown?
Why did Bush do nothing about Jena?
Why did Bush put us in Iraq for no reason?

How you'd say it:

Why'd he cut folks off medicaid?
Why'd he let New Orleans drown?
Why'd he do nothing about Jena?
Why'd he put us in Iraq for no reason?

How Larry Johnson wants you to hear it:

Whitie cut folks off medicaid?
Whitie let New Orleans drown?
Whitie do nothing about Jena?
Whitie put us in Iraq for no reason?

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McCain, a former Navy pilot who spent five years in a Vietnamese prisoner of war camp, was questioned about the language because of a story last month in the Nation magazine reporting his continued use of the slur.

Since then, reports of McCain's language have been circulating on Internet chat sites and e-mails among Asian Americans, many of whom find the the term offensive and inappropriate for an elected official.

"The use of a racist slur can't be acceptable for any national leader, regardless of his background," said Diane Chin, executive director of the San Francisco-based Chinese for Affirmative Action. "For someone running for president not to recognize the power of words is a problem."

While McCain's words may have little effect in conservative South Carolina, where few Asian Americans live, they could come back to haunt him in other states.

"Historically, straight talkers who say things off the top of their heads eventually hang themselves with those sorts of remarks," said Bruce Cain, a political scientist at the University of California at Berkeley.

"While it might not hurt him now, Democrats are not going to have any hesitation about using this stuff to string him up later."


McCain made no apologies yesterday.

"I was referring to my prison guards," McCain said, "and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend some people because of the beating and torture of my friends."

McCain made it clear that his anger extends only toward his captors. As a senator, he was one of the leaders of the postwar effort to normalize U.S. relations with Vietnam.

"If people understood the context, they wouldn't be upset," Mike Murphy, a senior adviser to the campaign, said last night.

But the racial slur used by the senator has a long, painful history that is felt by many Asian Americans.

The word "gook" was first used in 1899 by American soldiers fighting Filipino insurgents. During the Korean War, the term was aimed at Koreans and Chinese. It was directed at the Vietnamese when Americans were fighting in Vietnam. It is now used as a slur toward any Asian or Pacific Islander.

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