Maverick: You Know What Needs To Be A Top Priority? Comprehensive Immigration Reform!
The walk back towards comprehensive reform and away from enforcement started a few weeks ago and now it’s out for everyone to see.With the nomination securely in hand, the straight talk is back (sorry, NY Times Link)
Senator Kennedy and I tried very hard to get immigration reform, a comprehensive plan, through the Congress of the United States,” he said. “It is a federal responsibility and because of our failure as a federal obligation, we’re seeing all these various conflicts and problems throughout our nation as different towns, cities, counties, whatever they are, implement different policies and different programs which makes things even worse and even more confusing.” He added: “I believe we have to secure our borders, and I think most Americans agree with that, because it’s a matter of national security. But we must enact comprehensive immigration reform. We must make it a top agenda item if we don’t do it before, and we probably won’t, a little straight talk, as of January 2009.We're going to secure the border by January 2009? Yeah. Let's be honest, we'll get promises to secure the border at some point but we'll get instant, right now amnesty/path to citizenship whatever you want to call it. I can’t say I am surprised. Was anyone really buying that whole, ‘lesson learned, enforcement first’ happy talk during the primaries? He was barely able to keep the pretense up as it was. Personally, I am glad Maverick is back and telling us what he really believes and wants. It makes it easier to not vote for him and ultimately it’s better for him. No one was buying his conversion and he looked silly trying to sell it. Better we are all honest about what our choices are this November. In reality though, I am sure most people have factored McCain's true stance on immigration into their voting decision for awhile now. Me? Unless someone promises to name John Bolton and the Stache of Death to a cabinet post, I am sticking with my gal Hillary even if she isn't on the ballot and doing it without any guilt. h/t memomachine
1 I'll tell you one more time, I'm voting for XBradTC. He's an asshole, sure, but he's an asshole I know and trust.
Posted by: XBradTC at May 23, 2008 11:14 AM (kddTy)
2 Pass couple days I got really worked up over Obama and decided to vote for McCain. But, I'm not going to put up with McCain's repeatedly lying to me. Screw him. I'm back to a no vote.
Posted by: Edward Smith at May 23, 2008 11:17 AM (CrBLC)
Posted by: krakatoa at May 23, 2008 11:21 AM (/FUhT)
4 The only problem with not voting for McCain, as distasteful as some of his positions are, is that it would in essence be a vote for Obama. Whatever shortcomings that McCain has, Obama would more than double them. Is that what you think we need?
Posted by: MH at May 23, 2008 11:23 AM (5ITIK)
5 He. Just. Doesn't. Get. It. He's worse than the Wall Street Journal on this issue, if that's possible.
We laugh at the unreal cocoons the leftists live in, but frankly, some on the Right are no better.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 23, 2008 11:28 AM (ujg0T)
6 The only thing that's going to be more stomach turning is seeing the righteous indignation on his face when someone suggests that he, Saint John McCain of nobility and honor, lied and pandered.
Posted by: MlR at May 23, 2008 11:29 AM (N7h3D)
7 It's comforting that the office of President is not a dictatorship in the US. Bush tried for years to shove this shit down our throats. "See ya at the bill signing." I don't think Juan can get it done either. He has lost his bearings and forgotten the Senate switchboard meltdown.
Posted by: alycan at May 23, 2008 11:30 AM (Il2Ep)
8 He. Just. Doesn't. Get. It. He's worse than the Wall Street Journal on this issue, if that's possible.
The Wall Street Journal are a bunch of slick operators that're out for effective subsidies and handouts, with a dash of utopian and convenient post-Americanlibertarianism.
McCain's just an emotionally-deranged bozo on the issue, as he is on many others.
Posted by: MlR at May 23, 2008 11:33 AM (N7h3D)
9 MH. That argument has failed, what, like a million times already? You really think it'll gain any traction this time, after McCain shits on us once again?
You have to convince us that a vote for McCain's goals are truly any less disastrous in the long run than an Obama win. (And please note, the long run does not mean the next 2 to 12 years -- it means the America our kids grandkids are going to inherit).
We are not obliged to vote for a candidate that shares bloody few of our principles and goals for this country. If the original JFK were running, he'd be to the right of McCain. What does that tell you about the trend of incrementalism?
At some point, lines must be drawn in the ideological sand. McCain has been my line for the past 10 years.
Posted by: krakatoa at May 23, 2008 11:33 AM (/FUhT)
10 It's a write in vote for Duncan Hunter if the Dems kiss and make up after the convention, which means it won't be close.
If it's close between them, I will vote Obama, if he needs it in the Republic of Rhode Island. That's not a real worry though.
When country club Repubs, RINOs, and McCain are gone from the party, I'll vote for them again. If McCain wins, their is no near future for conservatives. He might win again and then the repubs might run someone to the left of him. I'm not supporting that.
So, yeah, no vote for you John.
Posted by: TomJW at May 23, 2008 11:34 AM (xRCpL)
11 He doesn't want to win, does he?
Posted by: stinky esposito at May 23, 2008 11:34 AM (aCmpf)
12 He doesn't want to win, does he?
Sure he does. Just not with in a way that means he owes conservatives.
Posted by: DrewM. at May 23, 2008 11:37 AM (hlYel)
13 Evidently McCain likes cutting his own throat.
Is Mickey Mouse running again this election cycle?
Posted by: GarandFan at May 23, 2008 11:37 AM (eJ32B)
14 Why is the Republican party so out of touch with Republicans?
Why did they create a situation where the democrat or crossover vote was allowed to select the party candidate?
Why can't we put up a ticket like Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham? The MSM's heads would explode, but when the votes were counted, the party would win. And the down ticket impact would be awesome.
Really, why can't this happen? Even now. Throw McCain under the bus. Didn't cut it. Out on his ass.
Why is it that some 'party' gets to decide who's on the ticket?
Total BS declares I. (A little pirate talk to end this tale of mutiny)
Posted by: Mephitis, the maverick conservative at May 23, 2008 12:01 PM (X5b4e)
15 krakatoa: I see the chance for Obama to put up several SC justices as something that could seriously hurt us for years to come. You'll see a lot more legislation from the bench then. I really never wanted McCain, but we are stuck with him now.
Posted by: mh at May 23, 2008 01:45 PM (9rpmh)
As this is my first hat tip I want to thank all the people out there that helped make it happen.
However naming any you would detract from this tiny moment of glory so that ain't happening folks.
Posted by: memomachine at May 23, 2008 02:02 PM (XlmYx)
I see McCain thinking that he can get enough crossover votes from this shamble of a Democratic primary that he doesn't need the conservative base. I think he's also counting on enough Iraq/national security conservatives will hold their collective noses and vote for him that he can create a national majority, win the election *and* disenfranchise the conservative base.
Posted by: memomachine at May 23, 2008 02:06 PM (XlmYx)
18 *walks up to McCain*
*peers at him closely*
Just making sure whose side you're on.
Sen. McCain: See here, General Sosaboski, I should think you would have more faith inmy masterplan.
Faith? I will tell you how much faith I have. I am thinking of asking for a letter from you stating that I was forced to go along with thischarade in case mypartyis massacred.
Sen. McCain:I see. I do see. Do you wish such a letter?
No. In the case of massacre: what difference will it make?
Posted by: General Sosabowski at May 23, 2008 07:32 PM (CU/Ik)
19 The only problem with not voting for McCain, as
distasteful as some of his positions are, is that it would in essence
be a vote for Obama. Whatever shortcomings that McCain has, Obama
would more than double them. Is that what you think we need?
Posted by: MH
Ok, and the problem with voting FOR McCain (aside from getting liberal crap from him)? The Republican leadership has already said that McCain's numbers show that what they need is to be more liberal, big brother, nanny state Government with much much higher spending (they mentioned SCHIP, the Farm Bill, and homeowner bailout specifically).
So if McCain is elected, they're going to think they're best chance of re-election is going further liberal. They've specifically and explicitly stated that McCain's popularity shows that the Republican party needs to be a nanny state big spending monstrosity. As a Conservative position, the Republicans will cut and run on politics and be Democrats n all but name on big spending bill and nanny state Government...
To steal your line... Is that what you think we need? To have both parties in a two party Government espousing the liberal position?
Posted by: Gekkobear at May 23, 2008 08:14 PM (Lnai+)
20 18 - That was some kind of funny, er, General. And a seriously apropo and witty nom de plume.
Posted by: davis,br at May 23, 2008 09:55 PM (7QgFP)
21 Amnesty Yes!
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22 The only problem with not voting for McCain, as distasteful as some of his positions are, is that it would in essence be a vote for Obama. Whatever shortcomings that McCain has, Obama would more than double them. Is that what you think we need?
YES, absolutely. I am going to continue to kick the GOP in the face until they give me a CONSERVATIVE to vote for. Learn the lesson already, GOP.
Should Iweasel outand vote for a RINO, the only thing that will guarantee is the chance to vote for more of them.
No. Thanks. That is definitely not what we need.
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