How the Glacier Melted: Hillary's Staff Dishes

More than twelve Hillary staffers, we're told. from low-level grunts to money men to high-ranking senior staff, answered a questionnaire with full anonymity guaranteed. (Supposedly -- this is TNR, I should note.)

So-- what went wrong? Short answer: Everything.

Apart from the obvious answer that she was a poor candidate running against a good one (or, rather, an exciting one), here are some of the more interesting answers:

"Clearly [Obama] was a phenomenon. He was tapping something really different than anyone had ever seen before. ... Months and months before Iowa, he was getting record crowds. I just think they should have really gone after him back in the summer and in the fall. I know it would have been a difficult decision to make back then. She's the leader of the party, the standard bearer, the big dog. Everyone thinks she's gonna win and walk away with it. Why go picking on Barack Obama? But that's just something the campaign should have done sooner."
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"Devastating vulnerabilities such as Obama's associations with Wright and Ayers were not unearthed by the campaign's vaunted research team in time to be fully taken advantage of--despite being readily available in the public domain."
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"Harold Ickes's encyclopedic understanding of the proportional delegate system was never operationalized into a field plan. The campaign inexplicably wrote off many states entirely, allowing Obama to create the lead of 100+ delegates that he has today. Most notably, we claimed the race would be over by February 5, but didn't devote any resources to the smaller states that day and in the weeks that followed, allowing Obama to easily run up margins and delegate counts on the cheap--the delegate margin he will win by."

Mark Penn gets blamed a lot. This seems important:

"Probably our second biggest mistake was much more operational: Making our chief strategist our one and only pollster. It is impossible to disagree and have a counter view on message when the person creating the message is also the person testing the message."

Even I'd realize that was a bad mistake, and I'm a moron.

Although Patty Solis Doyle gets blamed a lot, Mark Penn gets more specific criticisms, because no one seemed to understand what the hell Patty Solis Doyle was doing besides sitting on her ass all day. Well played, Ms. Doyle.

So back to Mark Penn:

"She never embraced the mantle from the beginning of being a different kind of candidate. Why did the campaign not do that? Because Mark Penn wanted to do it a different way. Read his book. He thought that you have a list of policy prescriptions. Voters are into that, and that's how you win. This came at the expense of--and it's a decision he really pushed for--saying to folks, 'Yes, she's a pretty inspiring figure herself.' ... There's no reason why she's not a change agent also. But once the CW is set, it just doesn't change."

Yes. Wonkery and small-bore policy prescriptions. Everyone knows that's the battlefield presidential contests are fought upon. Certainly not likability and character and biography and vision.

Which are frankly bullshit, but then so are policy prescriptions.

And then there's this:

"There was financial mismanagement bordering on fraud. A candidate who raised more than a quarter of a billion dollars over the years had to pump in millions more of her own money to stave off bankruptcy."

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1 I would prefer her to Senator Obama. She's just the sort of trangulating politico that can be contained.
Hope and Change: Hard to Contain.
WAF!

Posted by: Nom de Blog at May 16, 2008 01:25 AM (5/uG4)

2 The vaunted research team were morons when Wright was being talked about a year ago via the Internet - which even Hannity picked up on way back.
Shit, they haven't even explored his ties to his Islamist cousin Odinga (sp?) or made big enough hay when his campaign advisor is meeting with Hamas.
So much ammo laying around, not enough spine to pick it up and aim it well.

Posted by: porknbean at May 16, 2008 01:32 AM (TYoC4)

3 Dana Milbank is right. Obama's going to bury her so deep they won't find her wingbone for another 55 million years.

"she's just pining for the fjords"

Posted by: David Ross at May 16, 2008 01:33 AM (AvUHE)

4 "There was financial mismanagement bordering on fraud. A candidate who raised more than a quarter of a billion dollars over the years had to pump in millions more of her own money to stave off bankruptcy."

I find this inexplicable and more a test to the kind of executive she would be.

Shit, they haven't even explored his ties to his Islamist cousin Odinga (sp?) or made big enough hay when his campaign advisor is meeting with Hamas.

I don't buy this for a minute. False flag...see Larry 'there are 21 indictments" little rumor tonight. Clinton's got the good on Obama if they are to be had, she's unable to unleash them without a backlash.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/15/will-barack-throw-mama-from-the-train/

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 16, 2008 01:48 AM (Uv3VJ)

5 I doubt much useful can be gleaned from these guys... just trees amidst the forest shit you'd expect from people in the midst of it.

The bottom line is that the guy is black. Not a black demagogue. Black. Smart. Professional. People make the choice that makes themselves feel good about themselves. Picking the black man makes people feel good about themselves. There is the story in full.

This is not a surprising theory. Many have articulated it before and better. But because we need to fill the news with reasons and "analysis" and because they can't keep stating this obvious fact over and over, other narratives will have to be offered. Ignore them. The story is that he is black and voting for him makes me a good person.

Posted by: Ray Midge at May 16, 2008 01:52 AM (YhiNu)

6 No one mentioned her husband?
And herself?

Posted by: Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda at May 16, 2008 01:53 AM (2pT9a)

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A beautiful train wreck of a campaign. Well played Mrs. Clinton. I'm sure it'll be studied in political science classes for the next generation.

Posted by: electricferret at May 16, 2008 02:12 AM (rHh6C)

It was all her staff's fault. Staffs, you can't trust 'em, sweetie.

- Barack Obama

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 16, 2008 02:14 AM (oLULt)

9 Couldn't happen to a nicer bitch. Although I did start to admire her just a bit for fighting so hard. She's got more balls than the democrat men, that's for sure!

"The bottom line is that the guy is black. Not a black demagogue. Black. Smart. Professional. People make the choice that makes themselves feel good about themselves."

True, but incomplete. Most liberals run 24/7 on guilt. That's why they like Obama. So they can say, "see how down I am wit da peeps? I support the brotha for president."
White liberal guilt.

Posted by: Log Cabin at May 16, 2008 02:17 AM (j7zrD)

10 Log Cabin: "...White liberal guilt."

And 90% of the Black vote doesn't hurt either.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 16, 2008 02:45 AM (Uy68a)

11 That takes you only so far. Obama's rise on his Blackness is an indictment of Dem weakness.

Where are the working men and women? Oh yeah, voting Hillary or McCain. Where are Catholics? Voting Hillary or McCain. Where are Latinos? Voting Hillary or McCain. Where are Seniors? Voting Hillary or McCain. Where are middle class white voters? Voting Hillary or McCain.

Obama may get some, but only a percentage. Probably only 40% of some, and likely less than 20% of some groups (Latinos will not vote for the Black Guy, not when McShamnesty is running). He's cruising for a fifty-seven state bruising. He'll probably have negative coat-tails.

McCain's a Liberal Dem, he's like LBJ with more class, but that's good enough over Obama.

Hillary's problem is that Dems went insane, thinking they can run a crap candidate and win it all. No, they can't. She ran a bad campaign. She's a poor organizer, poor judge of talent, poor at recognizing her husband's political acumen (Hillary's populist bent too late is Bill's influence, clearly).

President McCain, RINO.

Posted by: Jim Rockford at May 16, 2008 03:10 AM (4878o)

12 It will be fascinating if Mccain actually does manage to get a ton of hispanic voters, partly just due to Obama being black.

If this happens, Katy bar the amnesty door. Don't know how much I care if Mccain does his job on the war and gets some new nuke plants running.

Posted by: gohuckyourself at May 16, 2008 05:37 AM (8jYMc)

13 McCain is going to HAMMER Obama in the national campaign, Obama will get slammed on such issues as Ayers, Wright and Odinga by the 501c's that McCain himself created. McCain did a far better job changing the rules for him to run that Hillary herself did.

The swiftboats will slam Obama while McCain just disavows any involvment with them, thus avoiding the "racism" label.

The whole DEM superdelegate system was created to prevent another McGovern or Carter getting the NOM, but it has exactly done the opposite. Hillary then further screwed herself by being overconfident, arrogant and underestimating Obama.

In the national, Obama will have to DEBATE McCain, and he cannot even hope to drop out of debates like he did with Clinton. So far Obama is at his weakest in debates, he is great when he is reading from a script on a teleprompter because he is nothing more than a media hypemachine creation than a real candidate.

Posted by: GTBurns at May 16, 2008 06:30 AM (iInYK)

14 Sure, he's weak when not using the teleprompter. But, if you think this weakness will be revealed by the media, you're crazy. They're HIS guy.

Posted by: Carin at May 16, 2008 06:48 AM (jWvfJ)

15 Or, he's their guy. Whatever. Shut up. It's early.

Posted by: Carin at May 16, 2008 06:49 AM (jWvfJ)

16 And to add insult to injury, the Guinness Book is stripping her listing as Smartest Woman In The World.

Dammit to hell ... sorry for using the word "stripping" in a post about Mrs. Clinton. Bad visual.

Posted by: Andy at May 16, 2008 07:23 AM (23Gys)

17 Heh. There's more finger pointin goin on here than Rosie O'Donnell in a donut shop.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at May 16, 2008 07:36 AM (pzen5)

Even I'd realize that was a bad mistake, and I'm a moron.

Don't sell yourself short, ace. You are the King of the Morons.

Posted by: Steve L. at May 16, 2008 07:37 AM (o0YD+)

19 One cannot win the WH without the the white male vote. Period. Perhaps people are rooting/voting for BO because he is black, but that will not win him the big prize. And regardless of internal sniping around Hillary, I would be shocked if she were to quit. It's just not in her (or Bill's) DNA to give up -- fighting is what they do, and they do it extremely well.

Posted by: Ken at May 16, 2008 07:38 AM (D02O9)

It wasnt the campaign it was the candidate

When she got into this- nearly 50% of the country said they would NEVER vote for her!!

However, as the anti Obama (too leftist, and too black for some white rural voters, maybe alot) and the anti GOP candidate, she was gonna get a lot of votes, it didnt matter who they put up. If she wasnt in it, Edwards would have gotten her share of the vote. If he wasnt in it, a fucking used rubber would have gotten her share of the votes.

It was never about her. Shes a lousy candidate, has a super annoying voice and has the charisma of a beer fart. Shes the default candidate for the union dummies and rural racists. Oh, and dopey old women who still think Gloria Steinem isnt a moron.

Posted by: TMF at May 16, 2008 08:08 AM (KTgUG)

21 The Obama campaign outplayed the Clinton campaign. He approached the campaign the same as he did the Illinois State Senate: What do I have to do to win?

In the Illinois State Senate race, it was to get the incumbent's ballot petitions disqualified (apparently because the machine incumbent didn't get real people to sign her petitions).

In the primaries, it was all about the delegate count. Wins. Momentum.

Obama will figure out which States to pour his millions into, and will probably figure a way to win. He might still lose, but he might not.

The scary thing is, I don't think McCain will see him coming.

Posted by: Loren Heal at May 16, 2008 08:30 AM (AyPvz)

"Months and months before Iowa, he was getting record crowds. I just think they should have really gone after him back in the summer and in the fall."

This is a perfect example of, though the right correctly laments the fact that the MSM is "in the tank", not just for Obama but for the Democrats as a whole, this fact does not always work entirely to their advantage.

Quite simply, were it not true, Hillary would not have seen the election as "in the bag" enough to ignore Obama, AND Obama would likely not have gotten near as far as he did without being vetted. But since both happened, courtesy of said MSM, the likely stronger candidate will apperently not survive, and Obama has gone far enough that there is pretty much no going back, despite his radicalism.

We are right to complain about the 'Chris Mathews tingly-leg media'. But the very fact that they are like that allows Democrats to believe things that are not necesarily so, and get into trouble that a tougher media filter would normally protect them from.

Posted by: Andrew X at May 16, 2008 08:31 AM (ne9bG)

23 Post hoc, ergo me.

Posted by: Propter Hoc at May 16, 2008 08:37 AM (UeP9e)

24 Ha. Thinking the same thing, Propter. The story should be titled "Clinton Staff Discovers 20/20 Hindsight"

Posted by: Andy at May 16, 2008 08:40 AM (23Gys)

25 But Andy and PH, where is the story from the Obama campaign on why they won?

Posted by: Loren Heal at May 16, 2008 08:44 AM (AyPvz)

Beautiful irony is Carville bailing on her--that would be James Carville, author of "Stickin': The Case For Loyalty."

Well played, Cajun.

Posted by: railwriter at May 16, 2008 09:26 AM (/ZX77)

TMF at May 16, 2008 08:08 AM (KTgUG)

...too black for some white rural voters,

Obama's too black for some white rural voters, but he's not too black for some white urban voters? Not likely, friend.

Posted by: Bugler at May 16, 2008 09:27 AM (YCVBL)

"She has the charisma of a beer fart". That's good.

Look, sometimes things aren't complicated. She's an extremely dislikable human being who's been on the national stage for sixteen years, givng everyone ample time and opportunity to see just how dislikable she is. And, just for good measure, she has a braying jackass of a husband who doesn't realize yet that the public is FINALLY wise to him too.

Posted by: rubberhead at May 16, 2008 09:28 AM (1uOZL)

When she got into this- nearly 50% of the country said they would NEVER vote for her!!

Oh yeah, I know a lot of hard core lefties who say they would vote for McStinkyPants over Hillary. I don't get it myself, but I'm the Viceroy of Retards, so what do I know? It's like saying Obama is too liberal for you, so you're voting for Nader.

Posted by: Beppo at May 16, 2008 09:29 AM (Ka5Jh)

Hillary's a fascist, through and through. Enough people saw past the thinly veiled charade of her "wholesomness" and saw the shrieking harpy for what she really is. Hitler in a pantsuit. Besides, she's already served two terms as president, hasn't she?

had to pump in millions more of her own money to stave off bankruptcy

The key words here are Her Own Money, it's not. It's the massive slush-fund cash she's recieved through the back door. (there's another bad visual for you Andy!) You really think Billy got all those millions for speaking? He got them because Hillary knew she'd be running and got the money laundry going early. If thet cash didn't end up in campaign coffers, she'd have some 'splaining to do...

Posted by: 5Cats at May 16, 2008 09:35 AM (Knaf0)

31 Hillary failed because she was slow to react. Hopey McRezkoJugEars could have been beaten if she established her Blue Collar persona sooner, but her campaign wasn't built for speed. I won't say that she had the presidency in mind on her wedding day, but she has been grasping for the White House for literally a decade. Back in 1998, she was extremely popular as a wronged wife, and she knew that a senate seat in a liberal state was hers for the taking. Since then she had been crafting her image. When Obama swept in, Hillary had too much momentum to change course. That's what did her in. 2008 is not 2004 or 1998. It's the Barapture, and Hillary has been Left Behind.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at May 16, 2008 09:52 AM (/Z3eF)

Lots of good analysis here, and then DiT comes into the middle of it with his Rosie O'Donnell in a donut shop comment, and I'm on the floor laughing.

Thanks Ace and everyone else, I love this place.

Posted by: Dr. Chester at May 16, 2008 11:39 AM (TOk1P)

33 There was financial mismanagement bordering on fraud. A candidate who raised more than a quarter of a billion dollars over the years had to pump in millions more of her own money to stave off bankruptcy.

That's what you get when you have politicians who have never once started, owned or operated any sort of business or enterprise -- total financial and economic stupidity.

(Which also means that we can look forward to President "Three Generations of Government" McCain ass-raping us all real good.)

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