1

I for one can't wait to move to the people's collective and start working on Obama's five year plan. Let us strive for pride in America!

Oh and let me point out that with my appealing face, charming personality, and deep knowledge of fascist, counter-revolutionary online elements, I would make an excellent member of the secret police.

2 Just have your children help you out with the bigger words.

Nah, I'm in PA, so it should be remedial enough for PA readers.  Though those corn-fed retards in the Midwest might need help...

3 LOL!!  I nearly pissed myself when I saw that picture.  That is fucking hilarious.  OK, I need to go speak in tongues then shoot a deer.  Bye.

4 Them city folk in Cleveland, Ohio had better watch out! We here in Pennsyltucky is armed and ain't afraid to say, "Aloha Snackbar, Buckeyes!!"

5 So, the upshot is, after Obama buggers the economy... there's gonna be a lot more religious folks with guns? Sounds like a plus.

6 OK, I need to go speak in tongues then shoot a deer.  Bye.

Don't forget the snake handling. 

7 Hillary touts her redneck bonafides (video).

8 That picture freaked me out for a minute, like how did my handle get into the photoshop?  Then I got it.  Moron moment there haha.

9 Obama has made Hillary seem likeable.

It's a MIRACLE!

Maybe there is something to this Obamassiah thing.

10 Remember the photo of the super hawt tractor somebody posted here a couple weeks ago? If I'm going to be forced to join a collective, I want one of those.

11 I didn't want to say that, but the way her voice cracks...

She actually seems...

Human.

12 :ISENGAGING HUMANITY SIMULATION PROTOCOLS

13

I vote for: (b) titanium reinforced cocoon.

A duplex. Free cable.

14 I focused on bitterness when I wrote about it this morning at A Second Hand Conjecture because Obama's new and improved version was still on about the bitterness.

It is hard to miss the implication, also in the new and improved version, that if government did it's job to provide for all of us, people wouldn't need the comfort of religion and guns and whatnot.

"Is there another person on the face of the earth Hillary could call an elitist without exploding in a fiery ball of spontaneous irony?"

Nope.  And she did pull it off well, didn't she?

I don't have to like her to admit that. 

15 Here we go: Get me an ObamaMobile and it's comrades here I come!

16

Are they ignoring the real issue here because they simply are unwilling to credit a non-liberal as offering a legitimate take?

Correct.

To credit the non liberal critique, or to even have it expressed, would not advance the agenda of putting a Dem in the WH. Because if the average shmuck, who doesnt really pay attention to politics, saw these cocksuckers for what they really are, it would be a 400 electoral vote blow out for the Rs in November

By the way- Jack Cafferty- ironic he wrote a book about all the "liars and crooks" who are ruining the country (all Repubs or conservatives, of course- no SPitzer chapter), given that hes the biggest motherfucking piece of shit liar, propagandist weasel that ever lived, bar NONE

Long may he suffer in the pain of a debilitating disease. Fucks like him are a beer fart in the face of everything that makes this country great

17 The CNN clip?  (Watching it....)

They should have gotten some average Americans up there to talk about what it's like not to have a job.  Instead they asked three people who...

OH MY GOD... the one *ss just said that people who have hard times join Al Qaida.

...never had a clue and never knew what it was like to live in a truly depressed economy... and they ask them to talk about someone else's elitism?

Hillary got it right... you don't tell people they're bitter.   You tell people they are strong, they are resilient.   You don't make excuses for their xenophobia to explain why they don't want to vote for you and like someone else better.

18

IM with you Ace

When Im seething with political rage, only "cocksucker" will do. No other epithet satisfies quite like a good "cocksucker".

And it fits so perfectly with cocksuckers like Jack Cafferty

19 Number of Democrat voters this will have any effect on:  0

20 [quote]Because if the average shmuck, who doesnt really pay attention to politics, saw these cocksuckers for what they really are, it would be a 400 electoral vote blow out for the Rs in November[/quote]

Oh, it will be.  Well, it'll be worse (for the Dems) than 1980 Reagan/Carter, but not quite as bad (for them) as 1984 Reagan/Mondale.  That's my prediction.

And I do have to admit, McCain will probably do better than any of the other Pub candidates would've done in this situation, due to how many Democrats can tolerate the thought of him as President (more than most Pubs I know, actually).  But, that said, I think almost any of the Pub candidates (save Huckabee) could've still -beaten- Hillobama, even if by not as much.  Sigh.  We could've won with Fred.  We really could've.  *still in mourning*

Qwinn

21

Question for Hillary-

Tell me in 3 sentences how raising taxes, protectionism, unilateral withdrawal from free trade agreements, and massively expanding the role and cost of government is going to get me a job

If your answer is as stupid as I anticipate, you dont get my vote

22

19 Number of Democrat voters this will have any effect on:  0

Absofuckinglutely

Im in Philly, ground zero for Obamamania. Buttons, bumperstickers and white elitist (and/or ghetto stupid) fanaticism

There is NO REASON IN THESE FUCKERS

Its a cult, and you cant reason with a cultist.

23 And Barry will still get the nod in Denver.  The Hillbots will sit it out in November and only the Enlightened True Believers will vote for Barry.

He might get 7 States.  

The spitting cat fights on the Sunday talk shows should be hilarious.

24

That "poor = al Qaeda" thing sure is true. I was down to my last $200 million when I joined. And Dr. Zawahiri could only afford to belong to one golf club.

If I may borrow an American phrase (Allah forgive me!), "Genius, Cafferty. Fucking genius."

25 "It is hard to miss the implication, also in the new and improved version, that if government did it's job to provide for all of us, people wouldn't need the comfort of religion and guns and whatnot."

See. That's really is the most insidious facet of this whole mess glorious and unintentional exposé. The core of his worldview is now self evident. All this hope/change BS is the semantic and political smokescreen we all knew it was, his deliberatively thin résumé the somewhat airbrushed record of his goals, and the anecdotal stories and associations of his activist past the real indicators of his beliefs.

And all it took to get to this point was liberal infighting, without which we'd have not heard a peep, and an extended primary whereby emotional hysterics (which are valid) made everyone pause just long enough to look at other issues. That doesn't mean clumsy insults directed at a constituency doesn't provide enough ammo to destroy a campaign because clearly it can, but that it, on top of legitimate policy concerns, should bury the smoldering carcass.

I say should because we're all, collectively, still just ign'ant enough to see him win a primary. Or bought. By chump change.

26

Is there another person on the face of the earth Hillary could call an elitist without exploding in a fiery ball of spontaneous irony?

LOL! No.

Are they ignoring the real issue here because they simply are unwilling to credit a non-liberal as offering a legitimate take?

Or are they so isolated in the liberal cocoon they're not even aware that a critique exists apart from Hillary's?

They are no doubt aware. They just don't understand our take.

 

27 What happens to people like that in the Middle East you ask? they go to Al Qaeda training camps

Yes, because if there's one thing Osama bin Laden and the rest of the bigshots in Al Qaeda have in common, it's a childhood of blinding poverty. (Hence, the ever present blight of terrorism in Brazil.)

If only he had been a full blown billionaire instead of a multi-millionaire, 9/11 would never have happened.

One other thing,

What's going on here is not here is not just patronizing/condescension, but liberals having to reconcile their world view.  Charles Krauthammer once made the statement "you'll never truly understand Washington until you realize all Republicans secretly think anybody who disagrees with them is an idiot and all Democrats think anybody who disagrees with them is evil."

That's how a decent portion of Democrats think and that's how they first came to their politics--among their family, their teachers, the media, they're just raised with the assumption that the Republicans are the bad guys.  The Dems are good and wants to help the poor and oppressed.  The Republicans are evil.

So the have to reconcile how apparently well-meaning working class people vote the way they vote.

This is how they do it and this, I think, is part of what's going through Obama's head.  In a way, he's being charitable--he's saying they're not evil, they're not bad, they're merely misled--and that's why you get a bunch of people who genuinely can't understand what the outrage is about.

28 22 TMF
Cultists are a different thing entirely. You're right that you can't reason with them.

I think its better to just go with mocking the 'coolness' of being an Obama-groupie than anyhting else. Just that, no more.

They're fad-following airheads, after all. If they see people mocking them, they'll turn away from it.

29 There is one thing that I remember being pounded home at college- the subtext that anyone not there was a lesser person.
Barack is the perfect embodiment of this- a mindset in sync with people like Matthews and Cafferty .
Religion is for idiots who can't cope and guns in the hands of non-liberal government agencies is a threat-totalitarianism and secularism in a nutshell.
The fact he is too stupid to repudiate his gaffe confirms a dangerous suspicion- he is arrogant  and a true believer and  much like Spitzer is willing to destroy to implement.
He is bad news.

30 Elitist is making 100million dollars in the last few years lobbying to screw workers over, promoting NAFTA, cozying up with Colombia to hash out a new "free trade" deal, and then hoping that voters are stupid enough to vote for you simply because you're white. 

I can't believe that Hillary would call Obama elitist.  That's rich.

31

And it fits so perfectly with cocksuckers like Jack Cafferty

yep, JC talks as though a large whang is preventing him from proper enunciation, especialy with consonants

 

32

Oh- dont forget- economic deprivation also drives certain people to violent crime, drugs, out of wedlock births (with multiple partners), illiteracy/high HS drop out rates and rap music

33 Yay! A Lefty troll!

34 Of course, BT sounded uh...bitter.

35 Number of Democrat voters this will have any effect on:  0

Absofuckinglutely

Im in Philly, ground zero for Obamamania. Buttons, bumperstickers and white elitist (and/or ghetto stupid) fanaticism

There is NO REASON IN THESE FUCKERS

Its a cult, and you cant reason with a cultist.

In Philly, absolutely TMF.  But don't let the fact that you live at The Gates of Hell  Soviet of Philly cloud your judgment.  Philly is not PA, as much as they like to pretend they are.  Outside of Philly, he did huge damage to himself.

36 The more this jackass talks, the more I might actually vote McCain. I really don't want to do that...ahhhh, conflict!

More robot-pron please!

37 It is funny how they dismiss it as obviously political for Hillary and McCain.  They can't believe that anyone would believe in the 2nd amendment or God unless they were downtrodden.

Many people in Al Qaeda are actually fairly well off.  Osama Bin Laden didn't join AQ because he was economically suffering.  Neither did Ayman Al Zawahiri (the DOCTOR).

That was pretty funny.  They just pat themselves on the back as though they are educating everyone who can't see that Obama is right and shouldn't have to apologize.  These talking heads are more elitist than Obama for sure.

38

Liberals' reality can now be defined as:

anything Obama says it is (even if he didn't actually mean what you think he said).

39

Hilarious post.

Tom Daschle is on CNN trying to spin this thing. It's hilarious. He's claiming the media has misread the situation.

The broadcaster is actually grilling Daschle, but spin Daschle. He says he's encouraged. He's kidding himself. Obama is imploding.

 

40 More musical help for Obama:

Understanding Rural America, courtesy of Grandpa Jones.

41 Boy, the spin from Cafferty is terrible.  I used like him.  Hey Caferty: What is Obama going do to change the probblems of the Rust Belt"??  Nothing.  Make me some promises.

42 My question is- are there THAT many people out there who tune in to CNN to get the "real scoop" from the likes of Jack Cafferty?

People who vaguely hear about these political gaffes, and then say "Whoa- better turn on old Jack Cafferty. He'll tell us whats what!!!"?

If so we're far more fucked than I ever imagined

43 And Wolf Blitzer calls this sorry bunch the "Best Political Team On Television"

Jackass Cafferty, Jeffy Tuber and uhm that chick whatever the Hell her name is...

Jesus H!

-cs™

44 WoW  wtf happend?.clintons  went from being the greatest presidnt in dem party to now being vilified and all for this phony who makes promises without solutions.amazing  now I know why snakeoil salesmen made so much money back in the days.

45 Ace "So you tell me: Are they ignoring the real issue here because they simply are unwilling to credit a non-liberal as offering a legitimate take?
Or are they so isolated in the liberal cocoon they're not even aware that a critique exists apart from Hillary's?"

That first problem looks to me to be encapsulated in that second problem, like they're not two options at all, but more like two statements of the same problem, with different levels of specificity.  So I think the answer is "yes."

TMF "To credit the non liberal critique, or to even have it expressed, would not advance the agenda of putting a Dem in the WH. Because if the average shmuck, who doesnt really pay attention to politics, saw these cocksuckers for what they really are, it would be a 400 electoral vote blow out for the Rs in November"

What's funny is how they seem to think that if they don't express it or credit it, that t.a.schmuck ain't gonna work it out for himself.  Pretty sure they spent several years wondering why Fox News was eating their lunch, too. 

Terry "Number of Democrat voters this will have any effect on:  0"

Maybe not, all by itself.  Or maybe the effect is cumulative, and subliminal.  Average schmucks and typical white people and other audiences can watch themselves be treated like retards for years and years without saying anything, then stand up and surprise ya at the box office (recent antiwar dramaganda bombs) or the ballot box (Bush, twice). 

46 1/ Did economic deprivation drive William Ayers into the Weathermen? 

2/ How badly would Shrillary have to fuck up, at this point, to fail to take Pennsylvania's primary?

47 This pretty much goes along with the mantra that the foolish yokels only vote republican/conservative and therefore against their own economic interests because they're manipulated by prolife proguns issues. Actually had someone try to pull that one on me at work. Uhm no, I agree with those economic issues as well buddy.

48 I was incensed over the "name calling" in the previous election. The claim for flyover country seems to be that we're all a bunch of morons with little or no education. Further, it applied to mostly Red States or Red areas in blue states.

As stated, I was incensed. What I did, mostly for self gratification (not the Ace type) was take the latest U.S. Census data and correlated county  population  (Red or Blue)  with the number of college graduates. The results surprised  me  after  only  a  few  counties in California. The disparity  grew the further  I went.  There  are  more  college  graduates  per  capita  in Red  counties  than  in  Blue  counties!

This isn't an isolated data set; quite the opposite. The overwhelming levels of intelligence are in Red States or Counties. Check it out at random for yourself. This should come as no surprise since liberals spend more time whining than graduating.

49 TMF, I'm in Philly also, and I agree that the Obama supporters here will not change thier minds. However, many of the trade union guys, who still wield some influence in the Philly Dem machine, will NOT vote for Obama. Obama may win the citywide vote, but it will probably break down along the usual racial lines.

50 Obama could drink the blood of Christian babies during Lent and it wouldn't change the minds of his core support, i.e., blacks, intellectuals, and Muslims.
I think the rest of his spiel is a lot like Kerry's, "I was against insulting America, Jews, whites, etc., before I was for it."

51

Joe (41) makes a good point about Obama's economic promises for the Rust Belt.

What does he plan to do? What's his background in economics? Have you looked at his tax returns. His and his wife's idea of investing seems to be an interest-bearing checking account. I heard some student-loan excuse elsewhere, but those should have been paid of at least four years ago.

In foreign relations, I read this week that he was citing a three-week trip overseas--27 years ago--as experience that gives him a unique insight into world affairs.

How about military affairs? I'm Obama's age, and I bet that my time playing soldier and playing with GI-Joes as a kid and the hours of RISK I played in my frat house in college compare favorably with his experience level.

What are his supporters thinking?

 

52

Barack Hussein McGovern Obama. He'll carry Massachusetts and DC and maybe Illinois.

Chrissie Matthews will run right up the wall and explode. The KosKids will turn to cannibalism. Olberman will have an onscreen tirade, then drop trou and run from the studio screaming "I'm the worst person in the world!" before large men in dark suits strike him with saps and throw him in the back of a van that disappears into the Pine Barrens. Hillary joins The View and marries Joy Behar. John McCain catches bin Laden and personally shoots that goat-shagging sonofabitch.

He keeps the head in a jar on The Desk.

53 "There is NO REASON IN THESE FUCKERS

Its a cult, and you cant reason with a cultist."

What's even more fun, don't reason with them at all, just get them to explain why they like Obama and why they think he would make a good president. It will make your head explode, I guarantee it!

54 "Oh- dont forget- economic deprivation also drives certain people to violent crime, drugs, out of wedlock births (with multiple partners), illiteracy/high HS drop out rates and rap music"

Uh-uh, according to Alicia Keyes, the government promoted rap music (specifically gangster rap) to convince black folk it's okay to kill each other.

55 "The fact he is too stupid to repudiate his gaffe confirms a dangerous suspicion- he is arrogant and a true believer and much like Spitzer is willing to destroy to implement.
He is bad news. "

I couldn't agree more. He really scares me, way more than Hillary ever could.

56 It was my misfortune to be at the barbershop while this tripe was on the tv and I noticed one thing about the CNN types, they kept talking about "those people" and "people from these areas" in reference to the small towners. As if they were from a foreign frakin' country!!!

57 This will make a great Saturday Night Live skit.  They can just use the transcript as is.

58 Normally, I would tell Jack Cafferty to go back to college, but it's more likely that he would only have his current views reinforced.

59 I've been wonder to myself that Obama's only major contact with religious people are those at Trinity UCC.  From the "GD AmeriKKKa", I get the sense that they may be frustrated and bitter, so by obvious extension .. what guns are they clinging to ?

60 Unemployment is at 5.1% for crying out loud.  Does anyone remember when economists said that a number this low was impossible?  Anyone want to look up how many months in the HISTORY of the US are this low?

People cling to guns and religion because times are so tough eh?

61 I love Jeff's blindness (BO was raised by his wealthy banker grandmother) and the bald idiot in the middle comparing Al Queda to the 'bitter' folks who have had god and guns in their families for generations (but have not started a jihad).
Neo makes a good point...these people live in another world and they wouldn't understand regular folk in middle America if they tried.

62 Actually, the bald guy helps us to understand why the talking heads on the left don't take terrorism seriously...terrorists are not fighting in their jihad because they lost their jobs at the manufacturing plant or had their farm taken from them, they want to kill the infidels and become glorious martyrs in the process.
No wonder i don't watch CNN, etc, they're all pc, Kool-aid drinking maroons.

63 My last couple years in high school the unemployment rate *nationwide* was over 10% and up to 14%.    I say nationwide because that's probably normal rates *now* or even higher for the rural area where I grew up.

We had no conception that we'd ever work or own anything at all.    Would even college help?   Not even the fast food places were hiring.   No one was hiring.

And every where I've been since people think that the economy is bad.   Every McD's and Wendy's has help wanted signs but I'm supposed to think the economy is so unbearably depressed.   They've got no clue what that even looks like.   5% unemployment?   Isn't that almost the same as *total* employment?   What's that, 4%?    Where only the entirely unemployable and those in transition between jobs are counted as unemployed?

64

George Will nails it

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/economy_always_in_crisis_in_el.html

Only a spittle spewing hatemonger like Cafferty, or that fucking dick/liar Paul Krugloser could think this economy is truly in a deep crisis

Did anyone actually think the housing market could continue to inflate 100% of its value every year?

65 Its all so funny with the media claiming that O is right, there are bitter people in Pennsylvania, while completely ignoring the real slight.  That being the implication that bitterness  is the cause of  progun, religious and anti illegal sentiment.

66 TMF "Only a spittle spewing hatemonger like Cafferty, or that fucking dick/liar Paul Krugloser could think this economy is truly in a deep crisis"

Well, them and Glenn Beck.  More accurately, that it's running along the rim of a truly deep crisis.  The way the currency is going downhill, it's prudent to hope that this upcoming-or-in-progress probable-recession is not only shallow but more importantly brief, because we do not want to still be in it when the coming tide of inflation rises.  Which it will.  The currency is being debased pretty seriously, even if it IS a necessary remedy.

"Did anyone actually think the housing market could continue to inflate 100% of its value every year?"

Well, nobody in Bob Brinker's radio audience did, that's for sure, because he railed against that shit for, literally, years, before it went down.  But guess what?  Millions of imbecile house-flippers and realtors and bankers apparently DID think that, yes, and acted on their delusion.
  The trick now is to ensure that they don't drag down the rest of us.  Looking at the Congress we've presently got, and the potential presidents we're likely to end up with, I'm thinking chances are real good of them making things much worse. 

67 haha you're such a weeaboo

68 CNN, eh?

Not the same 'network' that looked the other way while Iraqi's were tossed in plastic shredders, or guilelessly reported ol' Saddam's 100% popularity at the ballot box - just to maintain their franchise?  The real question is - how can sane people get through to the chumps that still believe CNN's crap?

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