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| Another Wow: Top Islamic Lawyer, Backed By Islamic "Cleric," Asserts Muslims Have Duty To Both Kill and Rape the InfidelJust watch the comments, okay? I'm pissed off too. Thanks to Demure Thoughts.Comments1
Ummmmm....yeah.
The slogan/quote at the top of this blog best describes my emotions right about now... Posted by: Sgt. York at April 02, 2008 02:25 PM (kEa7p) 2
Deus Volt!
Posted by: Robert at April 02, 2008 02:29 PM (hcsKC) 3
You sure he didn't leave off the word "camels" at the end of that statement?
Posted by: someone at April 02, 2008 02:31 PM (2z2WN) 4
toby928 has released the following statement: “This is very disturbing and serious. Obviously it’s a deeply difficult and personal matter.”
Posted by: toby928 at April 02, 2008 02:31 PM (evdj2) 5
"Kiss my grits!"
Posted by: dork at April 02, 2008 02:31 PM (Kl6Qr) Posted by: Dr. Charles Forbin at April 02, 2008 02:40 PM (g1cNf) 7
I'm so sure NOW is all over this..
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at April 02, 2008 02:40 PM (FCGJ9) 8
Nice to see 'em being honest for a change.
Posted by: jones at April 02, 2008 02:41 PM (45EKe) Posted by: AmeriDan at April 02, 2008 02:43 PM (IvDbl) 10
It is this humble and imperfect jurist of Allah's opinion that the dhimmi is allowed to carry and use a rape whistle.
However, the whistle may not be of such a pitch as to attract dogs; this is as low as a snake and an abomination. Allahu Ackbar. Posted by: Imam Abdul Makin at April 02, 2008 02:43 PM (IVUjc) 11
Is this really a legitimate religion? Because I though Scientology held the gold medal for sham religions. Advocating rape? What does rape have to do with religion?
Posted by: natesnake at April 02, 2008 02:45 PM (YcXTT) 12
You see ace? Do you see? This is what I was refering too in previous posts. Anyway, now it seems like you understand what I was refering to in the past and are coming arround to my point of view. So, I accept your apology and forgive you. Now, about those guest posting privledges... Posted by: ricpic at April 02, 2008 02:45 PM (Kl6Qr) 13
The only true God encourages raping non-believers? I cannot accept a faith that advocates this. I'd rather not believe in God if that is the case.
Posted by: natesnake at April 02, 2008 02:50 PM (YcXTT) 14
Is that really somebody else, or ricpic wierdly socking as himself?
Posted by: someone at April 02, 2008 02:50 PM (2z2WN) 15
Religion of Peace
Posted by: Dr. Isaac Kleiner at April 02, 2008 02:51 PM (xvIpv) 16
All ur bitches and hos r belong to us!
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 02, 2008 02:54 PM (IvDbl) 17
I don't their their Golden Rule is the same as our Golden Rule.
Posted by: Kevin Canuck at April 02, 2008 02:54 PM (sS03U) 18
Tiny minority of ..nevermind
Posted by: urthshu at April 02, 2008 02:57 PM (bFqDX) 19
The people who exposed this were Muslims so it has at least a 99.8% silver lining to the story.
Posted by: polynikes at April 02, 2008 02:58 PM (m2CN7) 20
I don't know how to respond to this without being inflammatory. Really. No suitable comment could possibly be made without a green light.
Posted by: Aurvant at April 02, 2008 03:01 PM (PV/4J) 21
The statements are appalling. I wonder, though, whether this lot are "top authorities" in the way that Russell Means was empowered to secede on behalf of all Lakota (in other words, not at all). Posted by: Oldsmoblogger at April 02, 2008 03:01 PM (arEOF) 22
Kevin, They probably have a different meaning for the word "peace" also. But let's not judge them too harshly, they are after all, a Religion of Peace.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 02, 2008 03:01 PM (IvDbl) 23
Asserts Muslims Have Duty To Both Kill and Rape the InfidelIf you're lucky, they will do it in that order.
Posted by: cranky-d at April 02, 2008 03:03 PM (8RwJy) 24
This is horrid I wonder if it will be spun as "mis-interprting" again.
Totally OT, but I'm surprised it hasn't shown up here ot @Hot Air: NKOTB back!
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/gallery/0401newkidsontheblock/ Posted by: John Galt at April 02, 2008 03:03 PM (8OFmt) 25
Well, that formatting went to high holy heck.
Posted by: cranky-d at April 02, 2008 03:03 PM (8RwJy) 26
Kill, and THEN rape? Uh...
I have no words sufficient for use in front of polite, genteel company. Or Ace of Spades, for that matter. Posted by: crankyprof at April 02, 2008 03:04 PM (mlPw2) 27
If shari'a law is the irrefutable word and will of allah, then why the need for islamic lawyers in the first place?
You can't defend someone against the laws of allah, right? Which is basically what this guy is saying anyway. I'm confused. Posted by: FreakyBoy at April 02, 2008 03:04 PM (4s1it) 28
Its fair warning and a good reason as any to be armed. Praise the Lord and pass the ammo...
Posted by: urthshu at April 02, 2008 03:05 PM (bFqDX) 29
Who gets to decide who is an Islamic lawyer or an Islamic cleric? This gig has some potential. I'm not into murder or rape, but taking other people's stuff and making them pay taxes and being able to lie to them sounds cool. No, wait, it sounds exactly like being a politician. Nevermind, I have more self respect. Posted by: MarkD at April 02, 2008 03:07 PM (MMy4A) 30
#19 " The people who exposed this were Muslims so it has at least a 99.8% silver lining to the story. " And a 99.9% chance that the Muslims who exposed this will "have their heads chopped off in the name of Allah". There is no silver lining to this blood thirsty, batshit, crazy bullshit.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 02, 2008 03:07 PM (IvDbl) 31
nevermind, I can't comment on this right now.
Posted by: JAFKIAC at April 02, 2008 03:08 PM (TrYvC) 32
Thankyou!Thankyou! I am come again! By I am slaying the crowd tonight ... fortunately, you are all the infidel so I am okay with Allah and my local mullah. Okay, on with the joke-making ... What is the difference between the Koran and the product Silly-Putty? One can be stretched and distorted and the other you buy at a toy store. Me? I love Silly-Putty ... I once used Silly-Putty to make copy of the Satanic Verses and found out after much stretching and shaping that "Paul was dead"... that is a mystery to me, much like the female orgasm and the musician, Paul Anka remain mysteries to me. Everywhere I go I am asked "Hadji, why do your clerics and lawyers want to kill and rape in the name of Islam?" and I say "Ewwww, kill and then rape, that is disgusting ... would you kill a dog and then take it for a walk? Of course not, the answer is clear, clerics and lawyers are soft in the head and, so we say in the bazaar, in the pants ... if you get my drifting, and I think you are. - Posted by: Hadji the Jihadi Comic at April 02, 2008 03:08 PM (UeP9e) 33
Isn't it one of Islam's big problems that it is so decentralized as to elevate every kook with "Imam" in front of his name to official spokesperson for the entirety of the religion? In other words, there's no Islamic "pope" to shoot this shit down and excommunicate the loonies. Consequently, these types flourish and grow their "flock", with debatable assertions and exegesis from the Koran and hadiths and all the rest. I don't know. Just trying to understand. Trying not to think the worst. Posted by: Fred at April 02, 2008 03:09 PM (ivbbD) 34
I'm sure there's a lawyer joke to be had here, but I'm just not seeing it yet. Posted by: Roy at April 02, 2008 03:09 PM (cB77O) 35
They probably have a different meaning for the word "peace" also. But let's not judge them too harshly, they are after all, a Religion of Peace. They say it's really pretty peaceful when you're dead. Posted by: pendejo grande at April 02, 2008 03:11 PM (+hSg2) 36
So, the other day I ask my fellow people, Is there anybody here who knows how to save a lawyer who is drowning? And one person said "Yes" ... so we stoned him unto his death. Posted by: Hadji the Jihadi Comic at April 02, 2008 03:14 PM (UeP9e) 37
Choudary said he would not condemn a Muslim for any action. “As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters,” Choudary said. “I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim.” Most disturbing aspect of the story: this dude lives in London, not Waziristan.Posted by: Thinking things over at April 02, 2008 03:15 PM (EQYOq) 38
Isn't it one of Islam's big problems that it is so decentralized as to
elevate every kook with "Imam" in front of his name to official
spokesperson for the entirety of the religion?
Yes.Its like Dems and Black Revs. Posted by: urthshu at April 02, 2008 03:15 PM (bFqDX) 39
All this time I thought they were saying it was the Religon of Peace ... Now I understand, it's the Religon of Piece!
Posted by: TiamoInfidels at April 02, 2008 03:16 PM (v/AwF) 40
I am sure they meant it spiritually and you know...not physically?
Posted by: Robert at April 02, 2008 03:16 PM (TIhRv) 41
There is a clear and obvious danger and half the country denies it. They say what they mean, and mean what they say, and increasingly gain the political power to move things in the direction they want. Why is it so difficult to believe?
Posted by: cranky-d at April 02, 2008 03:17 PM (8RwJy) 42
Suitable comment found:
My intolerance level just raised from elevated to "pretty freakin' intolerant". Posted by: Aurvant at April 02, 2008 03:17 PM (PV/4J) 43
Exactly what do these people have to say or do before the vast majority of Americans (and the world community, though it's probably already too late for most of them) start taking this kind of talk seriously. It's not like they are even trying to hide what they want to do. These imams and clerics are openly advocating the killing and raping of everyone who is not a muslim. Including your wives, daughters and children. And yet our own islamic scholar, President Bush, makes asinine statements like "islam is a religion of peace." We are in a world of trouble if our next president does not quickly and drastically assert our military capabilities to these crazies. We keep hearing about the "peaceful majority." If they really, really are the "vast majority," then they need to start putting the pressure on the "small minority of violent fanatics." I know that religion (including Christianity) is a touchy subject here. But for those of you who do believe in God (and I am speaking about Jesus Christ), please pray that God will grant our next leader wisdom and courage to handle this situation. These people are NOT going away. They will NOT compromise. They are NOT going to be reasoned with. I am not calling for mass killings of innocents. I am saying that certain members of this cult will have to be dealt with sooner or later. Posted by: Paradigm Shift at April 02, 2008 03:19 PM (/s5j6) 44
I beleive it was Tushar D who linked this a long, long time ago, but it's time to read it if you haven't.
Posted by: A. Weasel at April 02, 2008 03:23 PM (bqcfE) 45
Fellow Morons! Let's all get a firm grip on the situation here! Dude is only talking about uncovered meat! Ya know how when you leave uncovered meat in your yard- and who doesn't do that?- a cat will eat it? It has all been explained before.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 02, 2008 03:24 PM (IvDbl) 46
I'm as opposed to genocide as any right thinking person, but damn... The full force of the law should come down on these particular bozos for incitment. If these calls for rape and murder a) go unpunished, and b) get put into practice by the more thuggish of their followers, then the backlash will catch a lot of innocent Muslims in its wake.
Posted by: Cybrludite at April 02, 2008 03:25 PM (IgE+i) 47
I remember reading an article by a muslim man who had become Westernized. He marveled at the level of perversity of his own countrymen. Leaving his wife in an aisle in a grocery store for ten minutes, he would return to hear that lewd comments and leers had been directed at her because she was not standing next to him at the time. He speculated that the men were warped and obsessive toward women because of the complete covering and exile of women socially- that men were basically 'deprived' of normal social interaction with women and those who were poor could not marry so women became a hated obsessive sexual 'object'.
Now I read that, according to these freaks, it was 'part of the plan', according to Allah, to hide away muslim women 'for their own protection, (remember - the Burqa is supposedly coveted by muslim women because it 'protects' them?) and offer muslim men the 'right' to expend their sexual frustrations on those animals called 'infidels'. A muslim man can't look at, touch, talk to...a muslim woman but he can rape ALL other women at will. Posted by: random at April 02, 2008 03:27 PM (6dm3I) 48
Muslims are seceding from the human race. They are literally dehumanizing themselves -- turning into vicious human-shaped beasts. What can humans do in such a situation? What's the only way to prevent them from harming others?
Anybody? Posted by: Trimegistus at April 02, 2008 03:27 PM (xzoq5) 49
What a swell group of fine religious folk. Salt of the earth. Peaceful. Blah, blah, blah.
Posted by: cranky at April 02, 2008 03:27 PM (tWD2Q) 50
Just some P'sOS in a diarrhea pool. All their 10 years of prison shits are belong to Allah.
Posted by: Enlightened at April 02, 2008 03:28 PM (CHJ2J) 51
I think it's completely fair to ask CAIR, other American organizations which purport to represent the "religion of peace," as well as every single "cleric" in the US what their position is on statements like these. If you can't condemn statements like these, then you have forfeited the right to have your beliefs classified as a religion - you are a hate group on par with the Nazis, KKK, Black Panthers, etc. and should be treated accordingly... Now if we only had a media who would actually ask the question.... Posted by: Jim Barteck at April 02, 2008 03:34 PM (+RuLf) 52
And yet its Christians who are the problem. what a joke.
Posted by: Iblis at April 02, 2008 03:41 PM (9221z) 53
Seriously, if any mofo thinks they are going to rape me they most likely will be dead or mutilated in the end, and if I am dead in the end so be it. The fact is, if a guy, any guy, any color, race, creed, cap size, turban size, fez size, body size, whatever - attempts to touch me without my permission it will be the last thing they do. And so if Mr. Allah-Almighty Choudary and his Imams want a go at some of us "non muslims", I hope they have a chapter in the Quran for Failed Rapists/Murderers/Molesters - because it's all well and good to spout off about what they think they are entitled to do under sharia law - it's another thing entirely to be an abject failure at it. Posted by: Enlightened at April 02, 2008 03:44 PM (CHJ2J) 54
I wonder what these gomers would do if you pointed out that 9 year old girl their head man boned after he married her back in the 600's. Posted by: Dick_Nixon at April 02, 2008 03:50 PM (/2xR+) 55
The people who exposed this were Muslims so it has at least a 99.8% silver lining to the story. The thing is, in a doctrinal sense, they're not really muslims, not if they don't agree with Reverend RapeKill, who is only doing exactly what mohamed and the koran command him to do. It's not like he's some crazy preacher who's decided that Jesus wants him to have sex with farm animals, despite the fact that nowhere in the New Testament does Jesus say, "Go forth, my children, and get freaky with the chickens." He's not just making shit up. He's following his "religion" to the letter. Posted by: TiredWench at April 02, 2008 03:51 PM (Kx1hM) 56
You keep saying Religion of Peace. I do not think this means what you think it means
Posted by: Frank at April 02, 2008 03:52 PM (EjkX1) 57
My mother told me if you don't have anything good to say about someone, don't say anything at all so I would just like to point out that at least he didn't say it was okay to rape us after we are dead. Progress . . . in tiny baby steps. Posted by: TRO at April 02, 2008 03:57 PM (W8FyY) 58
55 Not so.
Not all Imams follow this sort of BS and it does nobody any good to validate these shits from either side by saying their views are 'correct' in any way. I hold no brief for Islam in any way, but if any muslims are half-sane AND reject Jihad I'll accept them as more or less OK, especially if they can be effective in persuading any of their fellows. Posted by: urthshu at April 02, 2008 03:59 PM (bFqDX) 59
How the hell does someone get crowned Imam anyway?
Posted by: CAD Daddy at April 02, 2008 04:00 PM (s/qsX) 60
Yup.
Posted by: Hank Hill at April 02, 2008 04:00 PM (PDeVA) 61
In other words, there's no Islamic "pope" to shoot this shit down and excommunicate the loonies. That might help a smidge, but it wouldn't address the heart of islam's problem, which is that, unlike every other major religion, it doesn't have the Golden Rule as it's overriding tenet. Posted by: TiredWench at April 02, 2008 04:01 PM (Kx1hM) 62
Well, I think alot of women are sick of hearing this crap from them, they are batshit crazy if they think most "non muslim" women are going to just roll over and get raped and or murdered by a dickless wonder who says Allah says it's so. Sharia law or no. I'm sure it won't take many mutilated penis's before these dipwads move the goalposts on Raping the Non Believers.
Posted by: Enlightened at April 02, 2008 04:03 PM (CHJ2J) Posted by: TiredWench at April 02, 2008 04:04 PM (Kx1hM) 64
What makes this so disturbing isn't that one nutjob cleric and "lawyer" were OK with this, but that seven others were willing to lie to defend it and their wives screech about raping and providing a false alibi were merely religious practices... in England. That's over a dozen people who felt that being punished for a violent rape was an excersize in religious persecution. Not in Saudi Arabia or Sudan, but fucking LONDON. How many more thousands have the same viewpoint? For all their efforts to criminalize speech that annoys Muslims or homosexuals, how about paying a bit more attention to those who see rape and murder as a religious sacriment? Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 02, 2008 04:08 PM (plsiE) 65
I think if they're not going to abide by the laws of their new country, it's time to think about shipping them back home. As long as they kept their insanity confined to their own borders, we were willing to let it slide. However, if they are going to walk among us, they had best learn to be civilized.
Posted by: cranky-d at April 02, 2008 04:13 PM (8RwJy) 66
So, the other day I ask my fellow people, Is there anybody here who knows how to save a lawyer who is drowning? And one person said "Yes" ... so we stoned him unto his death. Hadji...you're killing me. When are you playing The Comedy Store? Posted by: Nigel at April 02, 2008 04:19 PM (4gHqM) 67
I've linked to this as a response to "the problem" so many times, there's probably one or two of you who can predict the link by now. or perhaps Islam delenda est? This really is a battle Islam can't win ...seems obvious they do not understand the price they will pay ...for the West simply does not lose War. Especially this one. Posted by: davis,br at April 02, 2008 04:22 PM (7QgFP) 68
All I ask is this: If you want to live under sharia then go somewhere that has sharia as their law. We already have laws. Also, and this is just a suggestion based on data, people under our laws, not sharia, have a tendency to suffer from high speed lead posioning when looking to impliment the whole "kill then rape" process. I blame the NRA for that but what can you do? Second Ammendment. Who knew? Posted by: Rob B at April 02, 2008 04:23 PM (opyeT) 69
Let me blunt my comment ahead of time by pointing out that there are many, many people who call themselves Muslims who are decent, kind, and don't agree with Mr. Top Islamic Lawyer Asscrack dude.
Unfortunately, Mr. Asscrack has the Koran and the Hadiths on his side. After 9/11, I didn't believe all the talk by people like Mr. Spencer who claimed that this was all perfectly consistent with Islamic law and precedent, so I sat down and read the Koran, some of the Hadiths, some Arab history... and, shit, what do you know, Spencer was right. The people we call "moderate Muslims" are the rebels, the radicals, and they are challenging not only the interpretation but the text itself. It's an open question whether they'll be able to create any kind of mass movement to challenge the core tenets of Islam from within - because they HAVE TO do so, or nothing's going to change. If you accept the Koran and the Hadiths, you have to accept the statements of Mr. Asscrack the Top Islamic Lawyer. Even a "moderate Caliph" to challenge the Imamocracy would likely face violent opposition for challenging the text and the model of "the perfect man," Mohammed. As the world grows more interconnected, by technology and transportation, and more advanced technology becomes more widespread, this "problem" will become more intractable. I don't know how it's going to be resolved, but I'd place money on a lot more people dying of causes other than old age and disease in the process. The Moche and the Aztec practiced blood sacrifice in vast numbers, and they basically no longer exist as cultures. The Hattusha empire creased to exist so completely that it was unknown for millenia. Civilizations, not just states or cities, can disappear, though in modern times they are unlikely to be forgotten. One or more modern civilizations is likely to fail completely in the next several decades, we shall see. Islam is, at the moment, in an expansionist phase, in Asia, in Europe, in Africa, and to a much smaller extent in the Americas, Russia, Japan, Australia... And the "expansionist version" of Islam is almost exclusively Wahhabism, i.e. the same "radical" (originalist) version as Mr. Asscrack. I am afraid that our children will still be fighting "the larger war" 20 years from now, but aside from hoping that all the Imams get together and say "You know what, we were wrong, sorry, our bad," there's not much you can do. If the West would get over its PC self-gratification, then at least the discussion of alternatives could be more widespread. As of know, it's mostly echo chambers. Posted by: Merovign at April 02, 2008 04:23 PM (IaYDo) 70
Dude. That's just wrong.
Posted by: Satan, Prince of Darkness at April 02, 2008 04:25 PM (70HCY) 71
I'm not sure what the consensus is on this in the Muslim world. I believe rape is illegal in Saudi Arabia even if the woman isn't muslim. This seems like a far cry from being an obligation of every good muslim male. Plus islam seems to have a, uh, different view on prosthelytizing. Sure mormans and jehovah's witnesses will sometimes talk and annoy you to death, but according to a lot of imams, muslims can actually kill you if you don't convert. It's probably a pretty effect recruiting strategy even if it beings a certain amount of bad PR. Plus if you get rape privileges, I am willing to consider giving up pork and vodka. Posted by: Maetenloch (not a maniac) at April 02, 2008 04:30 PM (hn7Rm) 72
Good comment, Merovign, and I largely agree.
As the world grows more interconnected, by technology and transportation, and more advanced technology becomes more widespread, this "problem" will become more intractable. I don't know how it's going to be resolved I think it may eventually be resolved to a degree through technology, believe it or not. Posted by: urthshu at April 02, 2008 04:31 PM (bFqDX) 73
Who gets to decide who is an Islamic lawyer or an Islamic cleric? I think the major requirement is the ability to read slightly beyond the "see Dick run" stage. That and the capacity to hate beyond human comprehension. Posted by: Douger at April 02, 2008 04:34 PM (W85a9) Posted by: Shoey at April 02, 2008 04:34 PM (IRh55) 75
Michael Yon posted a picture on his site showing an Al Queda 'Holy Warrior' with a prostitute in Iraq and mentioned that this was classic for these guys. They love drugs, hookers, and booze but will fight, kill, maim, torture for their religion and strict adherence to Islam. I take all of this very seriously as their intent for a great part of the population of the world. I'm just not shocked at all of their threats anymore. They are what they are - a brainwashed, diseased, and very dangerous cult.
Posted by: Nurse Cheri at April 02, 2008 04:35 PM (cz6lG) 76
sigh. I'm not shocked anymore by the threats they make. Yes, somewhere an English teacher is weeping. Posted by: Nurse Cheri at April 02, 2008 04:38 PM (cz6lG) Posted by: polynikes at April 02, 2008 04:42 PM (m2CN7) 78
Not all Imams follow this sort of BS and it does nobody any good to validate these shits from either side by saying their views are 'correct' in any way. I get what you're saying, but I think it's important to recognize that, in the battle between those who want to practice a peaceful form of islam and those who want to rock the jihad, the former are swimming upstream. And we're not going to be able to help them succeed if we don't recognize the fact that their greatest obstacle (from a muslim's perspective) is that the jihadis are the ones walking in the footsteps of their prophet. Posted by: TiredWench at April 02, 2008 04:47 PM (Kx1hM) 79
Check out the symmetry: here on a site run by a guy with a beard, a vajayjay hangup, and a possibly imaginary friend named Allah we're discussing a major world religion run by a guy with a beard, a vajayjay hangup, and a possibly imaginary friend named Allah. Obviously the solution is for Ace to take control of Islam. Posted by: Ian S. at April 02, 2008 04:51 PM (p05LM) 80
TiredWench-
Oh, I agree with that, too, only with the caveat that I don't really suspect we can directly help them in any way with their internal arguments. In my more fevered, science-fictiony moments, I imagine we could set up some kind of holographic Mohammed over Al-aqsa to chant "you all nucking futz" in the Black Speech, but thats a loooong way off.... Posted by: urthshu at April 02, 2008 04:58 PM (bFqDX) 81
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the [Islamic murder and rape inciting imam-] lawyers [and let Allah sort 'em out]." Posted by: Dick the Butcher, via William "Sharkman" Shakespeare at April 02, 2008 05:05 PM (UioS4) 82
Maybe if we apologize for the Crusades they will lighten up a little.
Posted by: Michael at April 02, 2008 05:17 PM (GBak4) 83
Fred #33 "In other words, there's no Islamic "pope" to shoot this shit down and excommunicate the loonies. "
What they need is a new Agha Khan. What they really need is the hundred-or-so years of savage intra-Islam warfare it would take to establish an Agha Khan-ate, or whatever it's called. Preferably with a really high noncivilian body count. They uh DO have a concept of "civilians" right? Thinking #37 "Most disturbing aspect of the story: this dude lives in London, not Waziristan." Second most disturbing aspect is that he'd like to turn London INTO a new Waziristan. Because you can never have enough thirdworld shitholes and really, who needs London? Paradigm #43 "We are in a world of trouble if our next president does not quickly and drastically assert our military capabilities to these crazies." Invading London is probably not an option. It's worth consideration, sure, but still, probably not realistic. Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at April 02, 2008 05:27 PM (A1QUd) 84
Trimegistus #48 "What can humans do in such a situation? What's the only way to prevent them from harming others?
Anybody?" 1/ Do business with the ones that are peaceable and make war on the ones who are not. 2/ Get some real damn control of the borders of western nations and exert that control over both immigration and tourism. 3/ Every decade or so, pick the ONE worst Islamic hellhole on Earth (currently probably Afghanistan) and drag it into the 21st century. Next decade, maybe Sudan, maybe Gaza. Importantly, resist the temptation to drag multiple hellholes at the same time. 4/ Be the best civilization, human-est we can be, and make civilized behavior a mandatory part of participating in it. Throwbacks like the Imam and the attorney in this story need to be thrown the fuck back. Hard. These aren't prioritized or anything, that's just the sequence in which they fell out of my brain onto the keyboard. Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at April 02, 2008 05:41 PM (A1QUd) 85
Davis: The West used to be good at war, but now I'm not so sure. At times it seems as if we're just rolling over and waiting to die. It's absolutely horrible, but at times I find myself hoping that the Muslims will achieve some atrocity which the West will finally be unable to ignore.
Trouble is, the West's capacity to ignore things seems infinite. One would think that 9/11 would have done it, a thousand times over. But the liberals have determined that they support civilizational suicide. They've been trying to destroy the West since about 1920. They supported Fascists because they were anti-Western (until the Fascists turned on the Left). They supported Communism in all its forms, and still do. When that tool broke they dithered for a decade before discovering Islam. Forget about killing Muslims. They're just a symptom. The real enemy are Western liberals. They dominate academia, they dominate the media, and they are determined to see us all dead or enslaved. Posted by: Trimegistus at April 02, 2008 05:51 PM (Ya/9X) 86
Nixon #54 "I wonder what these gomers would do if you pointed out that 9 year old
girl their head man boned after he married her back in the 600's."
I've seen this happen, on Tim Blair's blog. First they'll make a big deal out of correcting you, because, see, she was really 11-years old, or something like that. googlygooglygoogle ah! http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/art_contest_announced/ It's kind of long (250 comments) but it's ALL good. Watch for proud2be@muslimah to weigh in at comment #59, and to drop the supremely annoying l33t dialect around #61. Good times... good times... Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at April 02, 2008 05:53 PM (A1QUd) 87
Er, to correct my above, she doesn't actually stop the irritating "l33t" dialect until about comment #106. And all humility aside, my personal favorite part starts about http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/art_contest_announced/#94296
ahem. Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at April 02, 2008 06:02 PM (A1QUd) 88
Tired #63 "Somewhere, an English teacher is weeping."
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As long as it involves a whole lot of intra-Islamic warfare, I don't care if they call him the Caliph, the Agha Khan, or the Sultan of Swat. They should just go fight amongst themselves for awhile. Six hundred years would be okay.
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Yeah, the Q&A is made up. It's not very funny, so it's not immediately recognizable as satire. Not that the story isn't plenty bad as is, but there doesn't seem to be the level of religious approval for the whole exercise as it might first appear.
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