Is Hillary Clinton a Hitler-worshipping cult member?

Quick Answer: No, she's more the Mao worshipping type. At least in sartorial attire.

Longer Answer: Apparently, some conspiracy embracing writer at that "reality-based" magazine "The Nation" thinks she is.

I know the far left is imploding over the fall of the Obamessiah. But this is really pushing bullshit and, I believe, religious bigotry, to the outer limits:

You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that "through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as "The "Fellowship," also known as The Family. But it won't be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet's shocking exposé The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.

Ahhh. The Nation citing Mother Jones. Wheels within wheels. Of lunacy.

The Family's most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the scenes--knitting together international networks of right-wing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. In the 1940s, The Family reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader, Adolf Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole bestiary of murderous thugs. As Sharlet reported in Harper's in 2003:
During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa's postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise.
At the heart of The Family's American branch is a collection of powerful right-wing politicos, who include, or have included, Sam Brownback, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, James Inhofe and Rick Santorum. They get to use The Family's spacious estate on the Potomac, The Cedars, which is maintained by young men in Family group homes and where meals are served by The Family's young women's group. And, at The Family's frequent prayer gatherings, they get powerful jolts of spiritual refreshment, tailored to the already powerful.

Let me tell you guys something. I know a little something about Hillary Clinton's bible studies, at least as they pertained to her arrival and first few years in the Senate.

One of my previous employers was a United States Senator who attended the same Bible study classes that Hillary Clinton attended. I asked him once if he thought Clinton's joining the class were sincere or if it was a phony political thing.

He told me he believed it to be sincere, and that Clinton was an active participant and that she made valuable contributions to the Bible Study group.

You want to know who lead the Bible study classes?

The Chaplain of the United States Senate. This position was not held by the current Senate Chaplain, but by a predecessor who I am not going to name as he doesn't deserve to be associated with this kind of bullshit. (Neither does Chaplain Barry Black, by the way. But the time period suggested by Nation/Mother Jones may implicate a predeccessor.)

This is among the things that the Senate Chaplain is tasked to do, by the way:

Chaplain Black’s days are filled with meeting Senators about spiritual and moral issues, assisting Senators’ staffs with research on theological and biblical questions, teaching Senate Bible study groups, encouraging such groups as the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, and facilitating discussion and reflection small groups among Senators and staff.

I am actually pissed off about this. I do not believe for one minute in this nefarious cult like "Family." Hillary Clinton, and several of the Senators mentioned in the Nation piece, attended Bible Study. Hillary Clinton attended as a professed Methodist. Other's attended who professed different denominations. Senators from both parties, representing the entire political spectrum, were in attendance at these classes.

This strikes me as the desperate gasps of the supporters of a dying campaign. Having seen their own secular Messiah crucified by his ties to a hate-filled preacher, they are striking back by impugning the one commendable aspect of Sen. Clinton's persona: her religious faith.

The entire article reeks of religious bigotry. Hillary Clinton's attendance at Senate Bible Study classes is in no way equivalent to Sen. Obama's 20 years association with Rev. Jeremiah "Was a Bullfrog" Wright. (Because, apparently, Obama 'never understood a single word he said'.)

I by no means support Hillary Clinton. I oppose her fully and ardently. I believe she, and her husband, represent the worst of sleazy politics. The thought of her getting even as close to the White House as the Democratic nomination disgusts me.

I also believe she is a tougher general election candidate than Obama for McCain to defeat. So I'm not coming to her defense as one who wants to see her prevail.

I'm simply offering a defense of her because of what I know firsthand. I attended one of these classes with my boss. Senator Clinton was present.

By the way. Full disclosure. I've been to The Cedars mentioned in the article.

It's a nice place.

No one has ever called me to invite me back. Or to attempt to have me meet them alone because I knew too much. No one followed me around when I made phone calls outside.

You want me to believe your bullshit is not just hate-filled conspiracy drivel, Nation? Produce some freaking evidence. Put some clips on YouTube.

Like those Wright clips.

I hear they are dynamite.

Posted by: Jack M. at 06:49 PM

Comments

1 JackM,

Poet
Lover
Warrior
And now...revealed as a secret member of the Knights Templar!!!

Your resume is building up quite nicely!

Posted by: EC at March 20, 2008 07:02 PM (j2Tjh)

2 Bible study = fascist cabal. Got it.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at March 20, 2008 07:03 PM (wmvIL)

"This has not been a casual connection for Clinton. She has written of Doug Coe, The Family's publicity-averse leader, that he is "a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God."

Sounds like a real horrible person.

Posted by: Brad at March 20, 2008 07:03 PM (JwZKg)

4 What the ever loving hell? That is weapon's grade stupid.

Posted by: alexthechick at March 20, 2008 07:04 PM (jWNHD)

Yeah, EC.

But not a very good one. If any of you want to know where the Holy Grail is, I can tell you.

But it'll cost ya.

Posted by: Jack M. at March 20, 2008 07:05 PM (b96e6)

6 No! The Nation has it all wrong. Hillary is actually a secret member of The Pentavirate.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 20, 2008 07:06 PM (UioS4)

7 No! The Nation has it all wrong. Hillary is actually a secret member of The Pentavirate.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 20, 2008 07:06 PM (UioS4)

8 At the heart of The Family's American branch is a collection of powerful right-wing politicos, who include, or have included, Sam Brownback, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, James Inhofe and Rick Santorum.

And Hillary Clinton. Because who else naturally falls as next in line after Brownback, Meese, Ashcroft, Inhofe and Santorum? It's a natural continuum.

Going to a Senate sponsored Bible study group is the key to enter the uber-conspiracy of them all but attending you local black church which just happens to be run by a vicious racist is not only not disqualifying for high office but actually makes you more qualified and the only person who can heal America's racial divide.

These people are simply deranged.

Remember when the loony nuts were on the right? Good times. Good times.

Posted by: DrewM. at March 20, 2008 07:06 PM (hlYel)

Sounds like a script for The Boys from Brazil II: Dos the Hitlers.

Careful EC, Jack M. seems really sensitive about this religious issue. We push him too far, he may caste some heathen devil-worshipping black curse on us, like the kind he castes on kids in World of Warcraft.

Posted by: TheEJS at March 20, 2008 07:08 PM (nWQmo)

But not a very good one. If any of you want to know where the Holy Grail is, I can tell you.

But it'll cost ya.

Pfffftt....

I got the Holy Grail right here!

* points to 96 oz beer stein *

Posted by: EC at March 20, 2008 07:10 PM (j2Tjh)

11 Skull & Bones!!!1!

Posted by: urthshu at March 20, 2008 07:12 PM (bFqDX)

You know who else supported Anti-Communists?

(fark gag)

Posted by: Dave M at March 20, 2008 07:13 PM (F5Kud)

13 Jack M. = Hitler

Posted by: Mack at March 20, 2008 07:14 PM (s8Y1I)

14 The banner ad at the top of the Nation article says the following:
"We're like Fox News. Only Smart. And Not Crazy. And We Don't Lie."

Yeah, okay.

Posted by: Exurban Jon at March 20, 2008 07:18 PM (N0doa)

15 Our reliable sources at Mother Jones also report that among other members of The Family is a mysterious figure known only as "Manson." Manson and other high-ranking devotees have been known to express their disturbing devotion to the Fuhrer by carving swastikas on their foreheads.

Posted by: The Nation at March 20, 2008 07:20 PM (GLMrI)

Remember a couple weeks ago when the one thing we kept hearing from the Dems was that they were thrilled with their canidates, either the first woman or the first black. It was all rainbows and puppies.

If Obama wins, Hillary's harridans are sitting out. If Hillary wins, the black vote is off the table. These morons could screw up a free blow job.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2008 07:23 PM (t+mja)

And ... the circle is complete.

Karma, its not just a breakfast cereal.

Posted by: toby928 at March 20, 2008 07:23 PM (evdj2)

18 So Hillary is a right winger? You mean I can vote for her after all?

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at March 20, 2008 07:24 PM (521Uz)

Yes, Jack, defending Hillary in this point is important because it is the right thing to do.

The argument is: Yes, Obama's pastor is crazy, but then all pastors are crazy, because religion is in the end nothing but a weird, fascist club.

You can not imagine how tired I am of these idiots. I think we are getting to the point where we need to beam them up to the starship enterprise and warp drive them to a galaxy far, far away. Any guesses as to what they will be like in 100,000 years?

Posted by: Harry at March 20, 2008 07:28 PM (EeSWw)

20 "she's more the Mao worshipping type. At least in sartorial attire."

As opposed to the other kind of attire.

Posted by: Mr Pedantic at March 20, 2008 07:28 PM (LhyHE)

21 The smoking gun: this is known to be one of The Family's secret bases. Hillary is a Methodist from the South and the building in question deceivingly claims to be a Methodist retirement home in the South. Google Earth provides undeniable proof that Hillary = Hitler.

Posted by: The Nation at March 20, 2008 07:29 PM (GLMrI)

22 Of course Hillary is a hitler worshipper: She's just a typical white person.

Posted by: captkidney at March 20, 2008 07:32 PM (9UaBN)

23 In conclusion, only a dusky-skinned racial uniter could possibly save America from Hitlery and a Fourth Reich at this point. But where might we find such a hero?

Posted by: The Nation at March 20, 2008 07:33 PM (GLMrI)

By the way. Full disclosure. I've been to The Cedars mentioned in the article.

It's a nice place.

No one has ever called me to invite me back.

Belching on the pastor's wife while hitting on her will do that.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 20, 2008 07:34 PM (Ds4I5)

25 Gay.

Posted by: Vercingetorix at March 20, 2008 07:39 PM (N8eC4)

26 Jack M. = Gay Hitler

Posted by: Mack at March 20, 2008 07:40 PM (s8Y1I)

27 Most comical rhetorical question from The Nation evuh!

What drew Clinton into the sinister heart of the international right?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Posted by: Mike Z. at March 20, 2008 07:42 PM (GLMrI)

Over the past couple of years I've worked with Chaplain Black's office, setting up guest Chaplains to do the morning prayer. This kinda horseshit pisses me off too. Those people are wonderful, and I've had chaplains of many different faiths who have been given the honor of doing the opening prayer.

Posted by: Thus Spake Ortner at March 20, 2008 07:47 PM (Gz7Y6)

Ah-ha! Now I remember why I'm a JackM fanboy ...its because he knows where the Holy Grail and stuff is!

(Seriously: good post. Congratulations. And I've read and heard from other sources that she's sincere about her faith. Good on her.)

Posted by: davis,br at March 20, 2008 07:52 PM (7QgFP)

30 It's so refreshing to have the Nazi analogies levied at a democrat. I'm just so pleased that it can happen.

Posted by: Jahiliyya at March 20, 2008 07:57 PM (CnXZn)

31 We're spending taxpayer money on Bible studies?

Are we getting anything for our money? I mean, is the chaplain teaching the Senators that high taxes are a sin?

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at March 20, 2008 08:00 PM (YvLui)

32 "The Nation's" Kool-Aid, extra strong and good to the last drop of acid.

Posted by: kempermanx at March 20, 2008 08:03 PM (ANRVq)

33 Like those Wright clips.

What "Wright" "clips"?

Posted by: Youtube at March 20, 2008 08:04 PM (mX6h5)

34 Beats me.

Posted by: Memory Hole at March 20, 2008 08:06 PM (mX6h5)

Heh. Wright slept at white house in 1998. picture of him with bill clinton post-monica.

AT ben smith blog

http://www.politico.com

Posted by: heh at March 20, 2008 08:07 PM (8nB5X)

36 "It's so refreshing to have the Nazi analogies levied at a democrat. I'm just so pleased that it can happen."

Well, they're saying that we right-winging bible thumpers are Nazis, so guess what! We're all Nazis, too.

Fuck these assholes. I'm locking and loading.

Posted by: Vercingetorix at March 20, 2008 08:09 PM (N8eC4)

37 Why would the Clinton machine plant this kind of story?
The Family sounds like a good crew. How could she be part of that?

Posted by: Potosi Joel at March 20, 2008 08:10 PM (TPRbZ)

38 I heard that members of the Family have secret ceremonies where they drink the blood of some dude named Jesus and then eat little bits of his flesh.

Posted by: horseman at March 20, 2008 08:12 PM (Pq0Br)

39 What about the blood orgies?

Posted by: geb4000 at March 20, 2008 08:13 PM (a1oRP)

40 Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg was obviously not on the Nation's reading list for the first quarter of 2008. Of course, it does include many pro-Mussolini and pro-Hitler quotes from....The Nation, and we wouldn't want the little pinhead leftie heads to explode. Also catch all the fun "Yes, Hitler has thrown many people in jail, but now everyone has healthcare and social security" quotes from other leading lights of the Left, such as The New Republic, the New York Times, and yes, Mother Jones.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The same rhetoric the Left used to justify Stalin and Castro was used by the Left in the 20s and 30s to justify Mussolini and Hitler. Everyone, and I mean everyone, should read this book.

Posted by: Britt at March 20, 2008 08:23 PM (ggOIi)

Jack M.'s life keeps sounding more kinky everyday, and not in the good way.

I have a feeling that everything he's "joked" about actually has happened. Please females, if you've been emailed or written about in Epic Poems by Jack M, seek shelter and authorities.

Posted by: TheEJS at March 20, 2008 08:25 PM (nWQmo)

42 Heh, I used that Jeremiah was a bullfrog/never understood a single word he said trope myself a few days ago

I love 3 Dog Night (and Hoyt Axton, who also played the dad in Gremlins, and also wrote the NoNoNo song)

Posted by: docweasel at March 20, 2008 08:32 PM (HbCq2)

I have a feeling that everything he's "joked" about actually has happened.

Not not everything.

Really, just the date at Baskin Robbins with Suzanne Sena happened.

The rest? Just jokes.

Maybe.

Posted by: Jack M. at March 20, 2008 08:35 PM (b96e6)

44 Is The Nation still printed on kindergarten-quality newsprint?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 20, 2008 08:37 PM (Ds4I5)

the sinister heart of the international right?

That makes all us fascists sound....classy. Anyone for a game of bacarrat after tonight's Kristalnacht festivities?

Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at March 20, 2008 08:48 PM (uOvAE)

Um, wingers and other AoSHQ types, you would be well advised to just step slowly back from the arena, and scramble up into the stands. Amateur hour is over.

The real NastiBeasts are now entering the big dirt space, and you don't want to be in there with them. These are the Dems, and they don't have to worry about the nicities whatsofuckingever... they have media cover for whatever they need to do.

If you can stand to see buckets of splattering blood and gore, then stay, but don't say you weren't warned! Let the games begin!

Posted by: sherlock at March 20, 2008 08:49 PM (ojW85)

47 So to a modern Lefty, mainstream Christian social clubs are the equivalent of secret Fascist conspiracies. But overtly racist preachers are harmless spiritual mentors.

These people are fucking crazy. It's not even a joke anymore. They literally are insane. They need to be locked up before they kill someone.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 20, 2008 08:52 PM (Ya/9X)

in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators)

Yeah, "one of the most murderous" dictators. For killing "Communists", no less.

Wonder what socio-political ideology the guys at the very top of the "murderous dictators" list were big fans of. And how many more gulags and forced starvations and "cleansings" do they have to engage in to get some ink in a batshit crazy Nation article?

Posted by: VJay at March 20, 2008 08:58 PM (kico6)

49 whose tally of several hundred thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators

Amateur.

Posted by: Joseph Stalin at March 20, 2008 09:04 PM (Ds4I5)

50 whose tally of several hundred thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators

Wannabe.

Posted by: Mao Zedong at March 20, 2008 09:07 PM (Ds4I5)

51 whose tally of several hundred thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators

Dilettante.

Posted by: Pol Pot at March 20, 2008 09:08 PM (Ds4I5)

52 Yeah, another thing....fascists absolutely despise Christianity. It's a huge obstacle to their goals. They hate all religions, seeking to replace God with the State. I love how political journals apparently never went through Political History 101.

Posted by: Britt at March 20, 2008 10:21 PM (ggOIi)

RE: Jeremiah "Was A Bullfrog"

OPERATION CHAOS, MEETING AND SURPASSING ALL AUDIENCE EXPECTIONS ON A DAILY BASIS OUR OBJECTIVES!

Posted by: FUBAR at March 20, 2008 10:39 PM (HrVHr)

54 I swear the Democrats are going into full Thermidor mode. They're going to start guillotining each other any minute.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at March 20, 2008 11:15 PM (521Uz)

55 Cheese and crackers! I read two paragraphs farther into it than the three that you posted, and I was STILL sure that this was a feeble unfunny PARODY of somebody else's conspiranoid drivel. For sure they were kidding about "Virginia's notoriously racist Senator George Allen."
But no...
It's not an INTENTIONAL parody at all, is it? They really want us to put this namby-pamby sundayschool treacle on a par with Wrev.Wright's wraging sedition.
"Obama has given a beautiful speech on race and his affiliation with the Trinity United Church of Christ. Now it's up to Clinton to explain--or, better yet, renounce--her long-standing connection with the fascist-leaning Family."
They're really never going to be able to comprehend how ridiculous they are, are they?

Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at March 21, 2008 12:26 AM (cowLC)

56 Is Hillary Clinton a Hitler-worshipping cult member?

You asshole. I love you.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 21, 2008 12:34 AM (KkzYM)

57 Where does the Queen of England - Henry Kissinger heroin trafficking
ring fit into all of this?

Posted by: Glen at March 21, 2008 01:02 AM (P0yFq)

58 If you can stand to see buckets of splattering blood and gore, then stay, but don't say you weren't warned! Let the games begin!

6 months ago, I was sick of this election campaign. But now it gets better with every day. I can't wait for Denver

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JXPIBsxdk0&feature=related

Posted by: JayC at March 21, 2008 01:33 AM (V+H0J)

59 In the next issue of The Nation:

The Bildebergers, The Templars, And McDonalds - Why Your Burger Dollars are Funding The Master Race

The Amway Connection - Crop Circles, UFOs, and iTunes

The Hidden Plan to Replace Humanity With Human Clones, Identical in Every Way Except They are Hairless - and How a Secret Alliance of Shampoo Manufacturers is Fighting for You!

Posted by: Merovign at March 21, 2008 07:37 AM (IaYDo)

60 I had no idea the Simpsons were pre-parodying these leftoid boobs, but the evidence is clear: Hillary is a Stonecutter -

"Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do! We do!

Who leaves Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do! We do!

Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Gutenberg a star?
We do! We do!

Who robs cavefish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do! We do!

Posted by: BlacquesJacquesShellacques at March 21, 2008 10:38 AM (IUp2J)

61 The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - <a href="http://thunderrun.blogspot.com/2008/03/web-reconnaissance-for-03212008.html"> Web Reconnaissance for 03/21/2008 </a> A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day...so check back often.

Posted by: David M at March 21, 2008 10:49 AM (gIAM9)

62 C'mon, Merovign -- links, Man!!!

Posted by: Claire at March 21, 2008 11:46 PM (l1oyw)

Hillary's a Methodist. And Methodists are wild and rampaging slaughterbots?

I wonder where they put Lutherans and Episcopalians?

Posted by: Mikey NTH at March 22, 2008 02:57 PM (TUWci)

WHY IS THE MEDIA HIDING THE TRUTH ABOUT HILLARY'S SECRET RELIGION (CULT ?)

It was obvious as one would watch the 'coverage' of the war that all of the cable news networks were working for the Bush Regime. The ONLY place we as Americans could attempt to gather some truth was through C-Span, Huff, Democracy Now and a few other sites which would show all of the networks to be actually misleading America. Now, with as simple a tool as Google, Americans can find out information that the networks won't give. Hillary's secret religion (cult) known as 'The Family' is a D.C. based group of the richest folks in America who 'pray to Jesus for the elite to rule the world' . The fact that there has been absolutely no mention of her cult leads one to believe that the higher-ups at the networks (and other big corporations) are a part of 'The Family'.....and the plan to rule the world. I know.... it sounds far fetched. You can find a great list of links regarding 'The Family' at www.Blacks4Barack.org. Truthtellers like Huffington, The Nation, Mother Jones and others have all done recent stories about 'The Family'....but where's CNN, MSNBC, Fox or the gang. They all know that there's an internet rumbling going on right now about this cult. But....no mention. Do the research yourselves....Google: 'Hillary The Family'or 'The Fellowship'....or 'The Christian Mafia'....once you do....you'll see that it is not only scary....BUT IT MUST BE STOPPED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LEARN/SHARE !!!!!

Visit: www.Blacks4Barack.org
(A Multi-Racial Organization Dedicated to Truth)

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