NYT: The Speech Ends All Questions About Wright
Huh. What the hell has gotten into Allah? Besides beer, I mean.
Better watch that hate, son. One day all that hate's gonna burn you up.Comments
Posted by: eddiebear at March 18, 2008 10:19 PM (zlXH8)
Posted by: toby928 at March 18, 2008 10:21 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: LiveFromFortLivingRoom at March 18, 2008 10:21 PM (0aWv2)
Posted by: doubleplusundead at March 18, 2008 10:25 PM (LEDkk)
Posted by: buzz at March 18, 2008 10:39 PM (+1T4W)
He couldn't very believably now have completely renounced Wright, claiming some coincidental Damascus conversion. He couldn't very well say, "I actually believe quite a bit of what Wright has said," stridently defending the insanity, and keep any hope of a campaign alive. He couldn't continue to unbelievably insist that this was all a big shock to him. And he especially couldn't very well admit the truth, that he's always thought that Wright, Michelle, and about 80% of the congregation are batshit-crazy, and he's just been using them for political ends, knowing all along that he'd probably have to address this mess sometime, and if he'd been thinking straight he'd have quit the church right after being elected to the Senate.
No, he handled it about as well as he could have, I think. Perhaps tweaking that Grandma passage a bit would have helped, but by and large I can't imagine how he could have handled it better.
Posted by: notropis at March 18, 2008 10:41 PM (2jzzn)
Yes, all of that hate is going to eat poor Allah alive.
Sigh.
It's time to let this go.
Barack Hussein Obama will not only be the Democratic Nominee for President of the United States of America, but he will be the next President of the United States of AmeriKKKa.
Oops.
America.
My bad.
And when this happens there will be Peace.
And Joy.
And there shall be war no more.
Sing Praises!
Sing Praises!
Get used to buddy.
It's just the fucking way it is.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: MTT at March 18, 2008 10:43 PM (VgmA8)
Posted by: rabidfox at March 18, 2008 10:46 PM (F0B1I)
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2008 10:49 PM (0AZ4a)
On the contrary.
With Barack Hussein Obama as POTUS with a Democratically controlled Congress and several SCOTUS appointments later, the use of correctives like affirmative action will only be just beginning.
Really.
Just sayin', again.
Posted by: MTT at March 18, 2008 10:51 PM (VgmA8)
Being called "racist" by a black isn't going to carry quite the same level of weight that it used to.
True that. Its going the way of fascist. Although, I think that if I was called a racist by blacks that I know, it would still hurt. By some lefty, not so much.
Posted by: toby928 at March 18, 2008 10:51 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: notropis at March 18, 2008 10:53 PM (2jzzn)
.RECAP:
1. A politician is on the ropes for sitting in the pews and nodding at a man who believes the US spread AIDS, drugged the poor, brought 9-11 on itself and who wants black to reject aspirations to the middle class...etc.
2. His aides decide he needs a Damage Control speech to blunt the impact
3. Rather than distance himself from the racist nut, his speech lectures the folks who were offended by the racist nut.
4. The media throws rose petals at his feet.
5. See you in the General, punks.
Posted by: CJ at March 18, 2008 10:54 PM (JQtNT)
Posted by: Sithson at March 18, 2008 10:57 PM (K1+tY)
No, he handled it about as well as he could have, I think. Perhaps tweaking that Grandma passage a bit would have helped, but by and large I can't imagine how he could have handled it better.
Politically, I take my hat off to the ol' chap.
He was caught in the 20-year company of a racist nut, and his Damage Control speech amounted to lecturing the Americans who questioned the racist nut. The gall. The beautiful, naked gall.
Posted by: CJ at March 18, 2008 10:58 PM (JQtNT)
The commercials are being planned right now by every right leaning 527 for November.
Obama has lost his rise above race sheen to white voters.
Now they don't like him. Maybe he should not have thrown his white grandmother under a bus driven by his hate-mongering, Anti-American and Anti-Semitic mentor.
I loathe this guy now.
Loathe.
Posted by: Stormy70 at March 18, 2008 10:58 PM (Y+o71)
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Posted by: lorien1973 at March 18, 2008 10:59 PM (smYGJ)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 18, 2008 11:00 PM (FYT9x)
I know what you're saying, but I wouldn't miss 'em for the world, even if somehow we end up with Billy Jeff back in the House. As someone, somewhere said:
"The chickens WILL come home to roost...."
Or as Earl Hickey says: "Karma."
Posted by: notropis at March 18, 2008 11:02 PM (2jzzn)
Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at March 18, 2008 11:09 PM (GAoBn)
I agree about racist losing it's sting. It's becoming simply another word to throw at people to stop an argument. For someone like me who doesn't give a crap what people think, well, that's not going to work.
Posted by: alexthechick at March 18, 2008 11:13 PM (jWNHD)
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.
Posted by: cruzer at March 18, 2008 11:34 PM (JfBGV)
Posted by: cruzer at March 18, 2008 11:34 PM (JfBGV)
Posted by: cruzer at March 18, 2008 11:37 PM (JfBGV)
Being called "racist"... It's becoming simply another word to throw at people to stop an argument.
Tell us, did it hurt when they melted you out of that carbon-fiber-nanotube cocoon where you were in suspended animation for the last 40 years? As for handy shutdown words in lieu of logic, well, it's still pretty much the old same-o, same-o out here, if you know what I mean.
Say, you and that Han Solo didn't get up to anything kinky in there did you?
Well, I guess not, come to think of it now.
Posted by: sherlock at March 18, 2008 11:38 PM (ojW85)
Eman, the Sermon on the Mount was a fortune-cookie scrambled mess compared to the "Philidelphia Phreedom" speech delivered unto us today.
Lincoln, FDR, and thier political speeches are now obsolete; America was transformed and healed today, lifted above and beyond the grim calculus of race politics and into a bright ( figuratively, making no allusion to skin color) future where your tired old hateful Reaganite bashing of welfare will be forgotten, everyone will be kind to each other, and education spending and health insurance will rain down from heaven and bless us all with a new understanding of each other and the world.
Let's just cancel the rest of the primaries, general election and make him God-Emperor with absolute powers, because, as he said, the Constituion is flawed...
Posted by: Spartan Fan at March 18, 2008 11:44 PM (RP451)
There have been three driveby shootings within a half mile of my house since January. This national reconciliation and kumbya thing isn't quite working out as planned it would seem.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 18, 2008 11:58 PM (V8z6O)
Hawaii for Clinton '08!
Posted by: Obama's Gramma at March 19, 2008 12:02 AM (ZABXa)
Posted by: hutch1200 at March 19, 2008 12:03 AM (zaKQC)
Not this time. 20 years ago, the Times could have gotten away with it, but these days, their meme-fu is weak. Talk radio and conservative blogs will keep the conversation alive.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2008 12:14 AM (OfPPb)
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 19, 2008 12:22 AM (eSqCK)
Meh. The guy pisses me off, too. I don't like being considered an idiot.
Posted by: mojo at March 19, 2008 12:26 AM (lWAuj)
I hope so. But the MSM all but ignores the dextrosphere and talk radio. We can chirp all we want, but if David Gregory declares it a closed case, it's a closed case. And those out there who still rely on Katie, Williams, and Gibson for their news will think it has passed by.
Instead, the MSM will return their focus to attacking the next Republican who picks his nose on camera.
Posted by: eddiebear at March 19, 2008 12:29 AM (3Gsih)
Obama is a gift to racists in the same way that David Duke was a gift to liberals.
Way to go, Barry! You putz.
Posted by: Steve (aka Ed Snate) at March 19, 2008 12:58 AM (5mVHB)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at March 19, 2008 01:05 AM (IVUjc)
Okay NOW I'm feeling some hope about change. Could it be so? Could it be that one actual positive effect of this sick-ass election cycle could be the end of the Race Card as we know it?
Maybe so. In the past two weeks, we've seen Geraldine Ferraro and Bill Clinton get racecarded upside their heads. If they can get this treatment, truly nobody is immune. Dems have to be looking over their shoulders now, wondering who's next. Oh I hope it's Geraldo Rivera, but this is no time to get greedy.
Here's the thing: If the Race Card keeps getting overplayed and overplayed, as loudly and as often as it has these past few weeks, could it not start to lose some of its mojo? Could we get to a point where somebody gets racecarded and just SHRUGS IT THE FUCK OFF and continues with an uncomfortable line of questioning or unflattering analogy or whatever? Less realistically, could we get to a point where these pandering sleazebags actually HESITATE TO PLAY a racecard, for fear of being laughed out of the room?
Maybe not, maybe not. But there's my healing dream for this evening.
Nite nite.
Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at March 19, 2008 01:15 AM (k18Ct)
Posted by: Consul-At-Arms at March 19, 2008 02:03 AM (yLTlW)
Posted by: cruzer at March 19, 2008 02:19 AM (JfBGV)
This.
I didn't before but now I do.
Equating his grandmother's private apprehensions about encountering groups of young black men - who are statistically much more likely to commit violent crime than are, say, groups of middle-aged Japanese women or, really, groups of any other description - with the careerist racism, anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism of his chosen-beloved Pastor Jeremiah Wright is disgusting.
And cowardly.
Instead of facing up to the consequences of his own choices and actions, he smears a defenseless old lady.
(The old lady who was kind enough to take him in after his exalted father abandoned him and his flake mother put her own interests above those of her child.)
Loathe. Me too.
Posted by: Gilda at March 19, 2008 02:45 AM (Vi57P)
"I can no more disown him than I can the black community"
I guess the black community hates white people, I was kinda wonderin.
Posted by: steve77 at March 19, 2008 05:06 AM (2iVD6)
McCain will not use the Racist Reverend Wright against Obama. Some 527 will and for every undecided voter that hears Obama's defense there are 100 undecided voters that have never seen any of the Racist Reverend Wright sermons. Those videos are dynamite and the fuse can never be extinguished.
Ya know what. The election is over 7 months away. That's too long for even a crackpot visionary like me to make predictions.
Posted by: klrtz1 at March 19, 2008 05:14 AM (Y+AeB)
Posted by: PrairieWind at March 19, 2008 05:32 AM (DM0G/)
Posted by: NYT Editorial Board at March 19, 2008 07:50 AM (kErJj)
Let me see if I understand how this worked:
-News of the Pastors hateful speeches is released
-Obama says he knew nothing about them
-MSM more or less buries or whitewashes the actual speeches
-More news of the Pastors hateful speeches is released
-Obama says he wasnt there
-MSM continues to bury and whitewash the actual comments
-More news is released, it comes to a head and Obamas numbers start to slip
-Obama gives cover his ass "racial healing" speech, where he essentially admits he lied
-MSM puts Obama the Healer on every front page telling us not to bother him anymore, after weeks of mis or underreporting the underlying story that caused the speech in the first place
Posted by: Otter at March 19, 2008 07:54 AM (KTgUG)
What I wonder is -- when Obama and his groomers discover it isn't working, what card will they drop next?
This is one helluva interesting election -- I better stock up on popcorn.
Posted by: PrairieWind at March 19, 2008 08:13 AM (DM0G/)
Posted by: HashFn at March 19, 2008 08:16 AM (56UMe)
Rev. Otis Moss III is responding to a question from the audience. He's trying to make the point that black people should force the Dems to cater to their concerns if they want votes.
Starting about 2-3 minutes from the end of the recording.
Basically, it's his Kanye moment.
I thought all the divisiveness was supposed to end after Wright retired. Remember Obama made a big deal about Wright
retiring and that he will continue to go to that church since the leadership has changed.
Now go find some more tapes of the new boss, dammit!
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at March 19, 2008 08:19 AM (7nV1N)
"Racial Healing" my Irish ass. The only famous black person speaking frankly about race in this country is Bill Cosby, and he's been marginalized because he refuses to blame white people for every problem in the black community. Obama is another race-hustling victocrat; he would rather slam his grandmother than honestly speak about the black community's continued enabling of it's own pathologies. He's a liar and a scumbag, and he deserves every bit of the heat he's taking.
And I'm surprised Chris Matthews could even discuss this, what with Obama's dick in his mouth all the time.
Posted by: UGAdawg at March 19, 2008 08:23 AM (vfDNl)
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.
Posted by: cruzer at March 18, 2008 11:34 PM (JfBGV) (subsequent link) Obama is consistent; he claims to be the Joshua of the Joshua Generation. Blow that horn, demolish those walls, kill all therein, pillage and plunder, and take the land of milk and honey for your own people only.
Posted by: maverick muse at March 19, 2008 08:39 AM (LYKFp)
That whole speech didn't past the smell test- the fact that the MSM is trying to bury the story confirms it.
The tone reminded me of my old Poli Sci teachers- full of superiority crap and excuses that it's basically our (whiteys) fault- shitting on your grandmother was a nice touch.
This guys whole campaign is now about race- we owe him.
Ferraro was absolutely correct.
Posted by: jjshaka at March 19, 2008 08:51 AM (6H639)
Posted by: polynikes at March 19, 2008 09:02 AM (m2CN7)
"Better watch that hate, son. One day all that hate's gonna burn you up."--Wright, Obama.
BHObama smeared his white grandmother for fearing while alone in public any man on the street, particularly black men as those would have been strangers in her day. He failed to explain or excuse his grandmother's concern for self preservation. I remember parents telling daughters to NEVER place themselves in circumstances where they would be victimized because the blame would be their own for having lacked discretion. Obama's grandmother came from the generation of Americans that alongside perpetrators blamed the victims of crime and particularly rape victims for asking for it in their dress, demeanor, or where they were, who they were with, or being alone in public, or being out after a certain hour, or leaving doors or windows unlocked. Authority figures made the rules. "Ladies" followed very strict rules that as children they certainly did not create but were fully expected to endorse in maturity. Obama does not respect his grandmother for being the best person she knew how to be, a lady. She was young when that's how things were. In loving Obama and raising Obama, she proved her generosity and mother's love. BHObama proved his hard heart, unappreciative and disrespectful and demanding. Exactly what is it that Obama claims to HAVE to give? He takes. He is a taker and an abuser.
Posted by: maverick muse at March 19, 2008 09:04 AM (LYKFp)
In the one clip I have seen of the Rev Moss he is a brother with a bow tie. Now that reminds me of another spiritual leader, Louis Farrakhan. All they need to do is sell bean pies outside of Trinity and they are good to go.
Of course I am not accusing Tucker Carlson of being a follower of Farrakhan because of his bow tie love.
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Posted by: ricpic at March 19, 2008 10:16 AM (o03rx)
Posted by: ricpic at March 19, 2008 10:18 AM (o03rx)
Being called "racist" by a black isn't going to carry quite the same level of weight that it used to. '
I'm going to start wearing it as a badge of honor.
Posted by: Jay at March 19, 2008 10:22 AM (BNlV7)
: The punchline to all this nonsense is that
the good reverend’s rantings really aren’t very far outside the liberal
mainstreamPhinn (3/17/0
: [Wright's] problem is not so much that he's on the fringe. He's not really
fringe at all. He's very much in the mainstream of the activist Left.
He says what every true-blue left-liberal in this country really
thinks. Hey, check it out. I'm a bigger hater than Allah.
Mmmmmm. Feel the warm hatey goodness.
Posted by: Phinn at March 19, 2008 10:25 AM (NLtoU)
Posted by: Stinky Esposito at March 19, 2008 10:27 AM (qUWBz)
BTW, Laura Ingraham mentions, as does Sean Hannity, that Christians can choose their minister. Sorry to mention it in parting, but bear in mind, Mormons can not. Mormons must attend according to their local geographical WARD, within it’s STAKE and REGION. Church attendance is mandatory within one’s geographical Ward under the auspices of whomever General Authorities designate as leaders chosen by direct revelation from God. But then, the Popes have denounced Statism regardless of locale, and Pope John Paul II pronounced that the Catholic Church formally does not accept Mormon baptism. It doesn’t matter how, Obama links the most disparate elements into public dialogue. Though Obama COULD CHOOSE his minister, as it is and has been, Romney can not.
Stinky Esposito, the powers that released the news have a calendar. Not only was Christmas Season abused by early politicking, now Easter would be.
Look through the fog to what matters and preserve the Good News.
Posted by: maverick muse at March 19, 2008 10:58 AM (LYKFp)
By the way, how leftists who are white and supporting Obama feel?
Last Friday, in an effort to gauge just how "out there" Wright’s sermons are in the context of the African-American church tradition, NEWSWEEK phoned at least two dozen of the country’s most prominent and thoughtful African-American scholars and pastors, representing a wide range of denominations and points of view. Not one person would say that Wright had crossed any kind of significant line.
Obama and those around him despise you yet you're going to vote for him.
Suckers!
Posted by: Jay at March 19, 2008 11:15 AM (BNlV7)
Can I get a 'T'?
Can I get a 'R'?...
TRENDS! TRENDS! TRENDS!
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at March 19, 2008 11:39 AM (7nV1N)
New York Times:
"Mr. Obama drew a bright line between his religious connection with Mr. Wright, which should be none of the voters’ business, and having a political connection, which would be very much their business. The distinction seems especially urgent after seven years of a president who has worked to blur the line between church and state."
Wow what a surprise - Regardless of the topic the Times is unable to write more than a few sentences without blaming Bush for something.
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When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
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