1 I've seen silly comments over at hotair to the effect that the black activists will be pissed off if Obama's not the nominee. Since Hillary's got most of the really powerful voices, I'm not concerned about that.

Go Hillary!

Yes, I'm all in, whole hog for Hillary for democrat candidate for president.

2 I hope African-Americans wake up and realize the Democrat Party doesn't give a shit about them.  They just want their votes.

3 Honestly, I can't believe they're pulling this crap.  I mean, I CAN -- they're Clintons -- but still...

Of course, the press will go on and on about how underhanded *Republicans* will make racist appeals in the general.  But that's baloney.  We do and will oppose Obama because he's a naive leftist, not for his race.  It's Clinton who has to (and, apparently, will) resort to foul race war crap because *that's all she's got*.  She doesn't stand for anything, so that's her way of differentiating herself.

(Of course, if nominated maybe *Huck* would go for the semi-covert slurs -- he seems to love that shit.  But probably even he'd go for the stealth-Muslim angle instead of any race stuff.)

4

I hope African-Americans wake up and realize the Democrat Party doesn't give a shit about them.  They just want their votes.

Let's first get them to stop believing that whitey is injecting AIDS into their fillings when they go for a six-month cleaning.  Or that whitey is intentionally sacrificing profits just so he and his other brandy sipping buddies can laugh maniacally about denying work to an obviously-most-qualified black person.  Or that whitey's subtle and not so subtle influences are why two black kids shot three other black kids over a few bags of rock last night and the night before that and the night before that.

Then I'll start holding out hope that they're approaching the democratic process with an open mind.  Baby steps.

5 "I hope African-Americans wake up and realize the Democrat Party doesn't give a shit about them.  They just want their votes."

Me, "I hope Conservative-Americans wake up and realize the Republican  Party doesn't give a shit about them.  They just want their votes."

6 I hope African-Americans wake up and realize the Democrat Party doesn't give a shit about them. They just want their votes.

Virtually very shithole city in this country is run by Democrats, and has been for as long as it's been a shithole. And yet the blacks keep electing Democrat mayors. If they haven't learned by now, they never will.

7

Let me see if I have this straight. Obama is taking on the white establishment democrat party. Clinton is opposing him. The BET chairman sides with Clinton. Why we do not know, but he does. Then the BET chairman accuses Obama of kissing up to the white man. This just gets better and better. I wonder if Obama is starting to realize he belongs to the racist party?

8

2 I hope African-Americans wake up and realize the Democrat Party doesn't give a shit about them.

This African-American gave up on that hope well over two decades ago.

It is an unbelievable dance with the devil. 

I have no other explanation.

!

9 4

...

 Baby steps.

Posted by: VJay at January 14, 2008 12:42 AM (kico6)

 

Well stated, VJay. 

But it leaves out a whole lot of us who do not live like that. 

We're here, too.  And frankly, I'm much more likely to be preyed upon by one of my own than you are. 

 

!

10 And frankly, I'm much more likely to be preyed upon by one of my own than you are.

Sad, but true.

11 The entire fight between Hillary and Obama will end instantly when they realize it is Obama or Hillary vs. Fred or Mccain.

It gets worse every cycle, and the GOP guy will be demonized worse than Bush even.  This argument the dems are having is probably not going to make any difference.

12 Why can't those stupid black people see that the Democrats are the racist ones?

13 Mr. Johnson just released this statement, through the Clinton campaign:

"My comments today were referring to Barack Obama痴 time spent as a community organizer, and nothing else. Any other suggestion is simply irresponsible and incorrect."

Their target constituency, of any color, really isn't very bright.  That is why it essential to them that they maintain control of education.

14 more likely to be preyed upon by one of my own

More identity politics. If I want to be claimed as the member of some group, I want it to be vocational, or social- an AOSHQ moron!- but don't classify me by ethnicity.
The only others "of my own" that exist are my closest blood relations. All those other ginnies and 'chops might as well be scandis.

As far as the cities being shitholes, and persisting in shitholery, you could not have devised a more evil machine for holding human beings in filth forever if you tried. The system is self-perpetuating now.

Welfare dependents who dabble in crime will never ever EVER vote for any person or ideology that will get them working and improve law enforcement.

15 I am not black, so I am not equating my particular situation with theirs, but...

I have gotten a lot more grief from gay friends when they realize I am a conservative republican,
than I have from my conservative republican  friends when they realize that I am gay.

I'm sure that you black republicans can relate to that!

16 I have no idea what you're talking about, LG.

17 I suppose I should clarify that joke:

I have no idea what you're talking about, LC.

(and it helps to use the right initials)

18 You know, it seems to me that most criminals are closet-bigots.  After all, most black criminals prey on blacks, most Moslem criminals prey on Moslems and most white criminals prey on whites.

I wonder if that says anything about politicians.....

19

Sometimes the only way you can hope to change behavior is to shut up and hope it changes on its own. I know from years of urban living that any attempt white people make to alter conterproductive behavior by welfare recipients or criminals is taken by many working and law-abiding black people as attacking black people as a whole. And attacking them unfairly also.

It isn't rational but it's a fact. White people have two choices when criticizing behaviors associated with the black underclass: Pay for it and STFU. I intend to pursue those choices vigorously.

20 spongewing...it's kinda like in South Africa where for years you had Mbeki telling the people that HIV didn't cause AIDS, but poverty did. You also had (primarily white) religious groups trying to slow or stop AIDS transmission by talking about sexual practices and promiscuity.

Guess which message was more popular with the target audience? Damn racist white man, trying to tell blacks what they can't do.

shaking head.

21 Here's some audacious change, from back in 2003. If Obama's gonna put the Kenyan muslim heritage out there, he should be asked about its fruits:

CHURCH BURNINGS IN BURA

The Reverend Simon K. Mungumba, the Assistant Chairman of the Bura Pastors' Fellowship, has written a report of the incident. Rev. Mungumba writes (14 June) that on the evening of Thursday 12 June 2003, the Divisional Officer (DO) was passing through Manyatta with some security officers in his vehicle. When they stopped in Manyatta and alighted from their vehicle, some Orma and Somali youths started stoning them, forcing them to retreat into their vehicle and flee.

According to Rev. Mungumba's account, the DO returned the following morning to inquire of the local Imam as to why they had been attacked. The Imam told the DO that the local Muslim youths had a visiting preacher in town and feared he may be arrested.

This 'visiting preacher', Sheikh Khalifa Mutiso, is a former Christian pastor who converted to Islam and now preaches aggressively against Christianity and Christians, with offensive messages that, according to Rev. Mungumba, "border on incitement".

Rev. Mungumba reports that at that point the DO decided to take Sheikh Khalifa Mutiso in for questioning. Once again the DO and his accompanying security officers were pelted with stones and abused by Muslim youths and women. The attack became so violent that the police fired their weapons into the air in the hope of dispersing the rioters. When that did not help, the DO arrested Sheikh Khalifa Mutiso and took him away for police questioning.

At that point the Muslim rioters stoned the police station and commenced burning and looting the churches, while others chanted, "release our sheikh, we want him to continue preaching".

The rioting lasted from the arrest at 9:00am until Sheikh Khalifa Mutiso was released at the intervention of a local MP.

There is little shade in Bura, so in an act of great solidarity and generosity, the Catholic Church provided tents for all of the churches that were burned down.

At a subsequent meeting of Christian leaders, Ibrahim Ormondi of the Evangelical Fellowship of Kenya spoke with Bishop Kinnogah, who told him that he had met with the Provincial Commissioner, who promised to order the arrest of Sheikh Mutiso for inciting Muslim hostility in Bura. So far, however, he has not been arrested.

The local Imams say they do not know Sheikh Mutiso, however Christian leaders know him as a preacher from Mwingi who has been preaching the same way in Mombasa and the administration are aware of his threats and inflammatory statements, which are usually directed towards youths, most of them of school age children and teenagers.

22 Kenya is 78.6 percent Christian and 6-8 percent Muslim. This incident over Sheikh Khalifa Mutiso and the burned churches is only one of several issues in the pot - under which the heat is rising. This is why it is imperative that the Kenyan government deal decisively with religious violence.

MYSTERIOUS KILLINGS IN EMBU

The Catholic Diocese of Embu wrote to the Officer Commanding Police Division (OCPD) in Embu, Eastern Province, recently, requesting an investigation into a series of killings. Since March this year, at least 12 church watchmen and one church cook have been killed. The victims all had their throats cut or were decapitated and only churches and church related institutions were being targeted. There are no clues however as to the culprits or their motives (other than theft). It is quite mysterious and unsettling. (Link 2)

KADHIS COURTS

Kenyan Muslims are pushing to increase the power and influence of Kenya's Kadhi (Islamic) Courts. Muslims want the Kadhi courts to be fully entrenched in the new Constitution with national rather than just local jurisdiction. Christians maintain that the entrenchment of Kadhi Courts in the constitution, elevating them to national level and giving them authority equal to the state's secular courts, will compromise Article 10 which states that, "The State shall treat all religions equally". Muslims maintain that they will accept nothing less than the entrenchment of the courts in the constitution and some Muslims unfortunately, have made inflammatory threats to establish a separate Islamic state if the Kadhi Courts are not accepted -- this has not helped the debate. (Link 3)

TERROR ARRESTS

On Monday 23 June, four Kenyan residents were brought before Chief Magistrate Aggrey Mchelule in the Kenyan capital, Nairobi, to face murder charges. They have been in detention since March 2003 on suspicion of harbouring the terrorists who carried out the car-bomb attack on the Israeli-owned beachfront Paradise Hotel near Mombasa in November 2002 that killed 18 people. They were remanded in custody and will appear before court again on 8 August.

23 Let's first get them to stop believing that whitey is injecting AIDS into their fillings when they go for a six-month cleaning.  Or that whitey is intentionally sacrificing profits just so he and his other brandy sipping buddies can laugh maniacally about denying work to an obviously-most-qualified black person.  Or that whitey's subtle and not so subtle influences are why two black kids shot three other black kids over a few bags of rock last night and the night before that and the night before that.

Uh-huh.  Good luck with that.

24

Mrs. Clinton has been pissing off large numbers of white people for years.

Now, Mrs. Clinton is pissing off large numbers of black people.

What a way to get and keep a constituency.

25 As a black man, I'm outraged by that comment!!!

Well, as a black man, I'm outraged that you're outraged.  Clearly you aren't black enough!

I'm blacker!! 

No, I'm blacker!!  Ultimate moral authority is mine!

Such is the inexorable result of identity politics.

Now, the question is....will Americans finally grow tired enough of this childish nonsense to put an end to it?

I doubt it.  In the meantime, pass the popcorn.  Right now the Democrats look like Elmer Fudd after Bugs Bunny sticks his finger in the end of his shotgun barrel.

26 I don't think getting the guy who runs BET to shill for her is going to help Hillary! worth a damn. If Obama's smart, he can easily paint her as the house-mistress of Uncle Sam's Plantation (good book on the welfare state, BTW).

27 Such is the inexorable result of identity politics.

Haha.  That has been the entirety of the GOP primary.  You really are an ignorant.

Now, the question is....will Americans finally grow tired enough of this childish nonsense to put an end to it?

Hmmmm.   I wonder.  True conservatives will but I doubt the liberals like Huckabee and the Romney Rinos will. 

I doubt it.  In the meantime, pass the popcorn.  Right now the Democrats look like Elmer Fudd after Bugs Bunny sticks his finger in the end of his shotgun barrel.

Did you mean to make this blackface joke?  Your previous posts, filled with really slanted observations show no appreciation of subtlty.  I am going to say no you didn't.

28 "You really are an ignorant."

Seymore, you're the best.

29 I see that you're spamming Conservative blogs with the Kenya stuff, funky chicken.

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