AP CALLS RACE FOR HILLARY CLINTON! McCAIN PROJECTED EASY WINNER OVER ROMNEY Ace of Spades Projection: Hillary Wins

AP CALLS RACE FOR HILLARY CLINTON!
McCAIN PROJECTED EASY WINNER OVER ROMNEY
Ace of Spades Projection: Hillary Wins

AP Just Called It For Hillary. The Comeback Queen!!

Whoo-hoo!

Hillary Still the AoS Projected Winner. Now 7000 or so votes ahead with Obama's remaining bastions having to seriously overperform for him if he's to have a shot.

Western, Vermontish, ultraliberal NH will not help Hillary. Those towns are going for Obama but not by as much as the exit polls suggested.

Thanks for the latter to DrewM.

Dartmouth, Dartmouth, Dartmouth: Hanover has yet to report. 6000 people voted where they expected only 4000. This precinct alone could wipe out Hillary's thin 3000 vote lead.

Other college towns haven't reported yet, either.

The Ace of Spades Decision Desk is considering taking back its projection at this point. Though it should be noted that Hillary has re-opened a 4% lead with almost 50% off the vote in.

I don't know what the hell I'm talking about... but given the fact that the New Hampshire population is relatively homogeneous, really, the only thing that can lose this for Hillary is big college towns coming in gangbusters for Hillary.

But I don't think that'll be huge. Does New Hampshire even have colleges? I think they have some professional deer-butcher academies. I guess those count as colleges.

So I'm calling it: Hillary gets the win.

From My Fingertips To Your Eyes: Media now "re-weighting" apparently erroneous exit polls to be closer to raw votes, now showing Hillary ahead!

How about that. My call might stand.

However, I'm cautioned that Hillary jumped out ahead early because bigger cities -- where she fares the best -- reported early, and now the more suburban/yuppie areas will start reporting and giving Obama big margins. So Hillary may have had her best showing of the night already.

On the other hand, NRO's The Corner notes that some of the "bigger small towns" have just reported in and, as expected, went for Obama by decent margins. However, Hillary's lead shrunk only from 4% to 3%. Does this mean we'll have only tiny town now reporting in, mostly? Has Obama had his mid-evening rally only to come up short?

Time will tell. But remember: I called it first.

And you want that kind of confidence/slapdashedness in a Trusted Analyst (TM).

Michael Barone... sounds like he's endorsing my projection. He hasn't given any reason whatsoever to believe there are pockets of major Obama support that can overcome Hillary's 6 point lead with a quarter of the raw vote counted.

Snark! "Hugh Hewitt," spinning Romney's second-place finish:

Clearly these results benefit one candidate and one candidate only...Mitt Romney. Anyone who doesn't understand that is not to be trusted as an analyst.

Can Hillary Win? With 15% in, she's up by 4%.

New Hampshire isn't the sort of state where there are enormous variations between urban and rural areas. I'm not sure it really has urban areas at all, and I'm pretty sure they stopped letting in black people in 1983.

So the "it's still early" thing doesn't seem to apply to New Hampshire returns like it does to Michigan/Detroit returns or Missouri/St. Louis returns. And for what it's worth, McCain's had a consistent lead of about 10 points on Romney all night, from the first percent through the fifteenth. Hillary's 4 point lead has likewise remained steady.

I think the Old Gal just might win. And that would make it a good night.

Think about it: She might be standing in the way of history, and of hope itself. Not Republicans. But Hillary.

And won't that be special?

JOHN MCCAIN PROJECTED WINNER; APPARENT BLOWOUT

Hillary and Obama still too close to call. There's a reversal, eh? I thought that would be the blowout.

Results coming in now.

Reverse Format: Instead of updating at the end of the post, I'll start updating at the top. (Duh, how obvious.) All old crap will be periodically buried in the extended entry portion.

Exit Polling: McCain 35, Romney 30.

Obama 39%, Clinton 34%.

Clinton's actually ahead in the current raw vote totals. No blowout for Obama; Hillary could actually win.

Both races are officially too close to call.

You know that thing the MSM does when they pretty much know who won but for reasons of self-restraint (and self-delusion) don't quite tell you who won while telling you who won?

Brit Hume had no problem just flat-out saying Barack Obama is going to win, so that one's not even close. As far as the Romney-McCain race, he's calling it "surprisingly close" but also notes 1) Independents are voting D by 59% to 41% and 2) Independents favor McCain and 3) 41% of GOP voters say Romney "shares their values" while McCain pulls in fourth (after Huckabee and Herr Doktor Paul) with 14%.

It sounds to be like they smell a possible Romney upset. Either way, it sounds close.

But... Only those 71 and over break for Romney. All other groups break for McCain.

Claim: Leaked Exits Show McCain By Six, Obama By... FOUR? K-Lo mentions these with the warning that these may be even more unreliable than the typical exits.

I'd say so. I'm thinking Obama by 8 at least, if not double-digits.

Polls: McCain "Slightly Ahead."

Update: Mark Steyn says he just talked to a "depressed" McCain guy:

Just heard from a McCain guy who sounded oddly downcast. The demand for Democratic ballots in traditionally Republican towns has got to have them wondering whether they've enough independents to win. Even if he does, it'll be the Obama victory that's the big story.

Results coming in now.

Posted by: Ace at 11:40 PM

Comments

1 That would smell good.

Posted by: mike at January 08, 2008 07:29 PM (JalPh)

2 The road to hell is paved with the carcasses of people that want to do what the "cool" kids do. That is what voting for Obama means to me.

Posted by: mbruce at January 08, 2008 07:54 PM (CxNJy)

Giuliani shares my sybaritic values--fine living, extravagant meals, hot women, hanging out with homosexual Broadway producers, and abortions for all the broads I knock up. As such, I represent a distinct minority in the Republican party, though larger than the black bloc.

Winning elections is all about getting out old farts. If I ran for office, I'd promise a bucket of tapioca every night of the week and curfews for everyone under 60.

Posted by: Xenu at January 08, 2008 07:56 PM (LDe7u)

4 Obama's only up by FOUR?!?!?! CONSPIRACY! CONSPIRACY! CLINTON ALIENS HAVE STOLEN TEH BUTTERFLY BALLOTS! OMG!1!!

(Water splash)

Thanks. I needed that. By the by, have you heard the latest on Cloverfield?

NEWSALERT! This just in. The NCAA has automatically invited Ohio State to next year's BCS Bowl, where they will get blown out by whichever SEC team has a 10-2 record.

Posted by: PaulW at January 08, 2008 07:56 PM (P7n81)

5 3) 41% of GOP voters say Romney "shares their values" while McCain pulls in fourth (after Huckabee and Herr Doktor Paul) with 14%.

HEY! You used "Herr" as a pejorative. Fuckin' racist....

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 08, 2008 07:58 PM (W9S9M)

6 NEWSALERT! This just in. The NCAA has automatically invited Ohio State to next year's BCS Bowl, where they will get blown out by whichever SEC team has a 10-2 record.

I went to Miami U. As in Ohio, not the serial killer state. (Hobo fricasee aside.) I loathe OSU. I shit scarlet and grey. Nothing gave me more joy in my college years than a MU/OSU roundball or hockey game, just because I could mentally piss on Woody Hayes' grave by merely glancing at the scoreboard. It's so bad I own a Michigan hat just for that one weekend a year.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 08, 2008 08:04 PM (W9S9M)

7 Tressel's not worthy to hold my clipboard. I'd have punched that little monkey Holliday's lights out. We never should have gotten rid of that option.

Posted by: Woody Hayes at January 08, 2008 08:05 PM (LDe7u)

8 Hell, Woody, when have you ever called an option?

Posted by: mrp at January 08, 2008 08:12 PM (HjPtV)

9 Home sick with a "man cold" today and have spent a lot of time reading through the comment threads. I gotta say, I think the pessimism is waaay overplayed, folks. By November, the electorate will have had plenty of time to think long and hard about the Dem candidate (Obambi or The Cackle), and seen plenty of "attack/contrast" ads making the point that he or she has NO MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCE and is a COMPLETE LIBTARD. By contrast, the Republican nominee will either have substantial executive experience (Rudy or Mitt) or a lengthy U.S. Senate career and plenty o gravitas (teh Fred or McCain). (I have not seen any credible arguments that Huckabee can actually win the Republican nomination, and if he does I will move to France and burn cars on my weekends, making all of this moot.) Most importantly, any Republican nominee will be perceived by most of the electorate as NOT A COMPLETE LIBTARD. So when my turn comes (here in NJ) I will just vote for either Rudy, Fred or Mitt, depending on which of the three has convinced me that he can rally the nation in the right direction AFTER he wins in the general election. And if McCain beats my guy and gets the nomination, well, at least he'll defend my country from the terrorists for four years, which is more than I would count on any of the Dems to do.

Posted by: Z as in Jersey at January 08, 2008 08:12 PM (RiRew)

10 I've heard that Obama's a head. Or he used to be a head anyway.

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at January 08, 2008 08:16 PM (fFF5v)

11 Ok, so, I'm a NH voter, just pulled the lever for Romney, and wrote in Hunter for VP.

Agonized over it, really wanted to vote FRED!, but with McCain so close, couldn't take the chance.

And ... never ever seen a traffic jam in my sleepy little town like the one at 6:30 tonight! I mean, serious bumper to bumper, 2 mile an hour, sitting and waiting to get through the center of a 1 blinking light tiny town. Lived here since '77 and NEVER sen this much traffic. Saw a lot of Massachussetts plates, the one in front of me with an Obama sticker on it.

Posted by: JPT at January 08, 2008 08:19 PM (y8RIM)

12 While we're waiting for the results, the Thompson spokesman announced today that the campaign has collected $500,000 in contributions since the Iowa caucus and that the first radio and TV ads go up on Thursday.

Posted by: mrp at January 08, 2008 08:25 PM (HjPtV)

13 JPT:

It's obvious you don't live in North Conway. I could cut a good half hour off travel to the WMNF if I didn't have to go through that town.

Posted by: lizardbrain at January 08, 2008 08:47 PM (dtrNR)

14 McCain is way the fuck ahead: http://www.politico.com/nhprimaries/nhmap-popup.html

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace- R at January 08, 2008 09:01 PM (ylMt0)

15 Only by 9%, with 11% reporting.

Still early.

Posted by: Timothy S. Carlson at January 08, 2008 09:05 PM (uBBUD)

16 Fox is not willing to call anything, even though McCain is ahead by 9%.

Posted by: CT at January 08, 2008 09:08 PM (7nDfl)

Boy, if these early returns hold up and Shitlary pulls this one out, will we hear about voter fraud and disenfranchisement in, lets say, Nashua?

How does a liberal respond to the typical liberal achy whine whenever they lose a close vote?

What happens when the party of serial voter fraud is the victim of serial voter fraud?

This is delicious.

Posted by: Xenu at January 08, 2008 09:09 PM (LDe7u)

18 Well, I typed too soon.

Fox just called McCain as the winner.

Posted by: CT at January 08, 2008 09:11 PM (7nDfl)

19 Fox says Maverick Wins! Maverick Wins!

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 09:11 PM (hlYel)

20 No - what we'll hear is "Tonight New Hampshire has made Hillary Clinton the comeback c[bloop!]"

Posted by: Police Commissioner Hugh Hewitt at January 08, 2008 09:11 PM (8aPVo)

21 The only good thing about this is that it hurts Huckabee.

Posted by: CT at January 08, 2008 09:13 PM (7nDfl)

22 Sucks to be Romney.

Cameron on Fox just made a good point. Huck was camped out in Iowa and Maverick was camped out in NH. Mitt tried to win both and lost both.

See ya in Michigan.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 09:15 PM (hlYel)

23 Obama is closing in on Hillary!

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace- R at January 08, 2008 09:17 PM (ylMt0)

24 OT: Want to have some stupid fun?

Put your recycling out on the wrong week but the right day and see how many people put theirs out. Granted, I put mine out last night and of course it was the wrong week.Usually I leave for work and say oh shit it's recycling and grab the crap and put it out because I saw the neighbor's crap out. Now the funny thing is the whole street has it out. The moron leading the morons.

OK back to the regularly scheduled moronathon

Posted by: JavaJoe at January 08, 2008 09:19 PM (Am6n/)

I'm trying out a chat room on my site if any of you want to come over and try it. You don't have to register or anything. Come on over!

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Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at January 08, 2008 09:19 PM (dh4Tv)

26 McCain Wins !

In your FACE, Iowa, you Huckasuckers !

w00t !

Posted by: Carl in N.H. at January 08, 2008 09:19 PM (np5R1)

27 I hope the the Hewitt dogs and cats are safely secured.

Posted by: mrp at January 08, 2008 09:21 PM (HjPtV)

28 Hillary seems to be pulling away.

Posted by: Michael Laurence at January 08, 2008 09:22 PM (M0QEs)

29 Now Hillary! is surging a head of BO.

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace- R at January 08, 2008 09:23 PM (ylMt0)

30 Has Fox called Michigan for McCain yet?

Posted by: Seti III at January 08, 2008 09:23 PM (Y4/VY)

31 Yes, Fox has called for McCain

Posted by: Michael Laurence at January 08, 2008 09:24 PM (M0QEs)

32 I hope the the Hewitt dogs and cats are safely secured.

Why? Clearly these results benefit one candidate and one candidate only...Mitt Romney. Anyone who doesn't understand that is not to be trusted as an analyst.

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at January 08, 2008 09:25 PM (hlYel)

33 They should call it for Hillary!

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace- R at January 08, 2008 09:27 PM (ylMt0)

34 Boy, the msm is in obama's pocket. Call it for Hillary!

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 09:30 PM (ylMt0)

35 When it's all over tonight, Obambi will have one by 7 or 8.

Posted by: mastour at January 08, 2008 09:33 PM (Btieu)

36 Don't you think the media are showing the results from those areas that support Hill first. Gotta keep it close, ratings you know.

Posted by: mastour at January 08, 2008 09:34 PM (Btieu)

37 The good news is, the Reform Party primary is being called for... for... hey, are they even still around...?

Posted by: PaulW at January 08, 2008 09:35 PM (P7n81)

Seems a little early to me. The Politico pop-up map shows that results have come in from only a couple of districts in the SE part of the state. I know the media are relying on exit polls, but aren't exit polls notoriously inaccurate? They were completely wrong in '04.

I'm not saying McCain won't win, but I think they are jumping the gun in making it official.

Posted by: sauropod at January 08, 2008 09:35 PM (hAdhk)

39 The bad news is, the Writers Strike is making it hard for Jon Stewart to come up with better beard jokes.

Posted by: PaulW at January 08, 2008 09:36 PM (P7n81)

40
sauropod: I am listening to the radio and as to the democrats they are saying over 40% of the vote has been counted and Hillary! has a 4-5% lead. I think the news is just not reporting the results as of yet but more votes have been tabulated than shows up on politico and what the msm is reporting.

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 09:39 PM (ylMt0)

I'm not saying McCain won't win, but I think they are jumping the gun in making it official.

I'm guessing they have exit polls that back their prediction up.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 08, 2008 09:42 PM (v8vVW)

42 How many other primaries/caucuses allow independents to vote? That appears to be one of the deciding factors in New Hampshire.

Posted by: CT at January 08, 2008 09:43 PM (7nDfl)

McCain blowout over Romney

close to 9 points

Hillary looks like she will win solidly- 4-5 points over messaiah

But he's guaranteed a VP slot (ewwww) on the ticket so what does he care?

Get back in line and suck that clinton dick, Dems, suck it gooooooood!

Posted by: TMF at January 08, 2008 09:44 PM (+Ac3z)

I like Hillary as the dem nominee. I like it alot.

Posted by: TMF at January 08, 2008 09:46 PM (+Ac3z)

Drudge has *MCCAIN WINS

I wonder what the asterisk denotes

Posted by: Michael Laurence at January 08, 2008 09:46 PM (M0QEs)

Hollowpoint,

Come chat! We need your optimism...;-)

http://rightwingsparkle.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at January 08, 2008 09:47 PM (dh4Tv)

47 New Pole Results...

According to the DrewM."Pole In My Paints Poll"...Megyn Kelly is freakin' hot.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 09:48 PM (hlYel)

Dem turnout: 33,000 thus far

GOP: 17,000

Dems double GOP turn out

This happened in Iowa too.

Omen? Meh.

Posted by: TMF at January 08, 2008 09:48 PM (+Ac3z)

49
As of 5:46pm (8:46 Ace time) Hillary is still ahead in what I had expected to be an Obama blowout in the 12-15% range. I gotta wonder - is this a case of the pollsters being fooled by people telling them what made them LOOK good (obama) and then going in voting for hillary?

Posted by: Arthur at January 08, 2008 09:49 PM (+hNja)

50 In honor of McCain's win in NH, I think I throw John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness in the DVD player.

That was McCains hand (or face) coming thru the mirror at the end. Serious. Brrrr...scary

Posted by: burnitup at January 08, 2008 09:49 PM (H1lp7)

51 Hillary is going to win. She's 5 points ahead now.

Posted by: Michael Laurence at January 08, 2008 09:50 PM (M0QEs)

Apparently, according to Fox, large numbers, if not a majority of them, find a candidate's personal qualities more important than his position on the issues. Which I guess explains Obama and Huckabee.

This country is so fucked.

Posted by: Mark V. at January 08, 2008 09:50 PM (dZ4mk)

I gotta wonder - is this a case of the pollsters being fooled by people telling them what made them LOOK good (obama) and then going in voting for hillary?

Either that or all the independents came out and voted for Hillary! , which strikes me as unlikely

Posted by: TMF at January 08, 2008 09:51 PM (+Ac3z)

54 Mitt's giving a good speech. He should be this life like in the debates.

And oh yeah, he should never say, "I like mandates" again. Evah.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 09:53 PM (hlYel)

55 BTW, still looking for that candidate who pledges his soul to Satan instead of the same old tired boring God crap.

Posted by: Mark V. at January 08, 2008 09:53 PM (dZ4mk)

56 The networks are gonna declare for Hillary soon. Obama's bubble has been well and truly burst. What an amazing election year this has been already.

Posted by: Michael Laurence at January 08, 2008 09:54 PM (M0QEs)

57 What an amazing election year this has been already.

Ugh. I don't want to hear anymore Republican Pussies for Obama.

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 09:56 PM (ylMt0)

58 Someone's puking in the background on Fox. Is it because of McCain?

Posted by: CT at January 08, 2008 09:57 PM (7nDfl)

59 Ugh. I don't want to hear anymore Republican Pussies for Obama.

Oh, do shut up. Whining is unbecoming.

Posted by: Slublog at January 08, 2008 09:57 PM (m4Jzf)

"This country is so fucked."

Not if Fred, Mitt, McCain or maybe even Rudy are the guy who makes them feel good. All four could do the job. Even Hillary! could, but lets hope that we don't end up celebrating her winning the nomination and then end up drinking ourselves retarded for four years if she wins the whole thing.

Obama might still win it, but we are in for a show now that the old Clinton team is back.

Posted by: bleh at January 08, 2008 09:58 PM (/InkS)

Yall come chat!

http://rightwingsparkle.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at January 08, 2008 09:58 PM (dh4Tv)

For a second there I thought the Democrats were smart enough to nominate the electable candidate

But with Messiah on the ticket as VP, i guess they still bring in all the disillusioned "change" crybabyidiots

Posted by: TMF at January 08, 2008 09:59 PM (+Ac3z)

63 You notice no Chuck Norris with Huck tonight? Chuck don't hang with losers.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 10:00 PM (hlYel)

64
Shutup, yourself. This should make your feel better: Huckabee will win another state or two. It's inevitable. That should make you happy. However, in the big scheme of things it is irrelevant. Loser.

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 10:00 PM (ylMt0)

According to the DrewM."Pole In My Paints Poll"...Megyn Kelly is freakin' hot.

Is this poll large enough to be statistically significant?

Megyn Kelly was rumored to be dating Brit Hume some time ago, btw.

Posted by: sauropod at January 08, 2008 10:01 PM (hAdhk)

66 I just called the primary myself.

It was a hard call at the Ace of Spades Decision Desk, but after noting that Hillary was up 6% with 25% vote in, we reached the 37.2% confidence interval we strive for and made the call.

Posted by: ace at January 08, 2008 10:02 PM (SXBHu)

67 What does the poll in your pants tell you?

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 10:04 PM (ylMt0)

68 Shutup, yourself. This should make your feel better: Huckabee will win another state or two. It's inevitable. That should make you happy. However, in the big scheme of things it is irrelevant. Loser.

Huckabee is ahead in South Carolina and Florida. Winning either of those states would be huge. He could come close in Michigan, as well.

Yeah, just another state or two. You're a political genius, aren't you?

Posted by: Slublog at January 08, 2008 10:05 PM (m4Jzf)

the only thing that can lose this for Hillary is big college towns coming in gangbusters for Hillary.

For Obama, you mean ...

Does New Hampshire even have colleges?

Dartmouth is rumored to be there. I think that's a college, but the only major they offer is Public Drunkenness.

Posted by: sauropod at January 08, 2008 10:05 PM (hAdhk)

70 Huckabee's wife? It's a man, baby!

Posted by: Mark V. at January 08, 2008 10:05 PM (dZ4mk)

71 You're a political genius, aren't you?

Compared to you, who isn't?

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 10:06 PM (ylMt0)

72 So now we're stuck with several days of "Hillary the comeback kid" and Billy the Red-Nosed Rapist smirking all over the airwaves....

Guess I'll leave the TV off for the rest of the week.

Posted by: notropis at January 08, 2008 10:07 PM (OvDHA)

73 Compared to you, who isn't?

Yes, you of the trenchant political analysis in the other thread. Stunning.

Posted by: Slublog at January 08, 2008 10:09 PM (m4Jzf)

HotAir links to an NRO piece suggesting that Hill's lead will shrink as more numbers come in.

Posted by: sauropod at January 08, 2008 10:09 PM (hAdhk)

75 They're pole-axed in The Corner. Mark Steyn just pulled out half his beard and let rip at ... Fred! LOL!

Posted by: mrp at January 08, 2008 10:11 PM (HjPtV)

76 I just hope Giuliani stays ahead of Ronpaul.

Posted by: Xenu at January 08, 2008 10:13 PM (LDe7u)

77 Maverick is reading his speech? Ugh.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 10:14 PM (hlYel)

78 I am really disappointed that NH turned its back on Obama. Even the Democrats are too racist to elect a black man. America still has a long way to go.

Posted by: klrtz1 at January 08, 2008 10:14 PM (t9PYM)

79 Go Obama Go !

SHRINK that lead, c'MOOONNN baby !

Posted by: Professional Deer Butcher at January 08, 2008 10:14 PM (np5R1)

80 Yes, you of the trenchant political analysis in the other thread. Stunning.

It beats your, We're going to lose! We're going to lose! We're going to lose!
Hey, it's a free country. If you want to vote for Obama, knock yourself out. Loser.

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 10:14 PM (ylMt0)

81 Even the Democrats are too racist to elect a black man. America still has a long way to go.

Hey now, there are plenty of other reason not to vote for a guy who has zero experience and speaks in nothing but platitudes besides his race.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 10:15 PM (hlYel)

82 From the Campaign Spot:

UPDATE: Wow. From a media source: "The exit polls are being "re-weighted" and now show HRC ahead."

Wow indeed.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 10:19 PM (hlYel)

83 Loser.

You stay classy, Chop Suey Palace.

Posted by: Slublog at January 08, 2008 10:22 PM (m4Jzf)

"Megyn Kelly was rumored to be dating Brit Hume some time ago, btw."

I should have been a journalist.

Posted by: bleh at January 08, 2008 10:22 PM (/InkS)

85 HotAir links to an NRO piece suggesting that Hill's lead will shrink as more numbers come in.

sauropod: the story is an hour old and refers to poll numbers 3 hours old. Also, I haven't seen anything more than the 4-5% lead, nothing like they are referring to.

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 10:22 PM (ylMt0)

86 Steyn's bitching about Fred? Whatever for?

Posted by: funky chicken at January 08, 2008 10:22 PM (I+jPP)

87 You stay classy, Chop Suey Palace.

And you stay negative, slublog.

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 10:23 PM (ylMt0)

88 exit polls are stupid

Posted by: funky chicken at January 08, 2008 10:24 PM (I+jPP)

89 To say I am not a Maverick fan is something of an understatement but I have to say, I can't begrudge the old warhorse his moment.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 10:25 PM (hlYel)

90 "88 exit polls are stupid"

Yeah, but they proved that Kerry beat Bush.

Funny that, in this case, with only a tiny, tiny population to attempt to extrapolate to, when they came up way off, they decided to "re-weight the exit polls" to match Diebold's stealing of the election from the people's choice, Obama.

Posted by: notropis at January 08, 2008 10:27 PM (OvDHA)

91 McCain's speech is a good one but he can't deliver it for shit. Way back in the recesses of my imagination there's a video, with that speech passing through Fred's lips.

Posted by: jmflynny at January 08, 2008 10:27 PM (l25Zd)

92 Hey now, there are plenty of other reason not to vote for a guy who has zero experience and speaks in nothing but platitudes besides his race.

He's running against a former first lady and a faggot. Frank J. was right: only homos vote in primaries. And NH homos are racists. Why else would Ron Paul get so many votes there?

Posted by: klrtz1 at January 08, 2008 10:28 PM (t9PYM)

93 notropis, snort

Posted by: funky chicken at January 08, 2008 10:29 PM (I+jPP)

94 Take a deep breath, guys. We're just at the beginning of the process. This is a diverse country, and the results may be all over the place before they settle down into a pattern. There's too little data to declare a nominee on either side right now.

Posted by: lmg at January 08, 2008 10:29 PM (cHcxA)

95 McCain definitely draws mixed emotions. I have tremendous respect for him for the obvious reasons, yet I despise his authoritarianism and other political leanings. Unfortunately, this is an election -- personally, I'd prefer him to retire from politics and take his well-deserved kudos for his long history of defending his country.

Posted by: Hermit Dave at January 08, 2008 10:30 PM (Tk5HT)

96 "He's running against a former first lady and a faggot. Frank J. was right: only homos vote in primaries. And NH homos are racists. Why else would Ron Paul get so many votes there?"

Some major network really needs to hire you as an analyst. Or maybe Howard Stern. That might even get me to sign up for Sirius Satellite.

Posted by: notropis at January 08, 2008 10:31 PM (OvDHA)

This is not a dream. We are broadcasting from the year 2 0 0 9. We are communicating from the future so that you may prevent the events depicted here from occurring.

//switch to Hillary ascending on to her throne surrounded by thorn-cocked demons//

Posted by: The Tachyons at January 08, 2008 10:32 PM (LDe7u)

98 If Hillary pulls this out, does Mitt Romney cry in Michigan?

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 10:33 PM (hlYel)

99 I'm just repeating what Frank J. taught me. All honor (and the job) should go to him.

Posted by: klrtz1 at January 08, 2008 10:33 PM (t9PYM)

100

Lileks was on Hewitt tonight -- excellent as usual.

What's this? Slu is supporting Obama now?

Posted by: Bart at January 08, 2008 10:33 PM (VAR7n)

101 What's this? Slu is supporting Obama now?

Nah, I'm still a Thompson-Romney-McCain guy.

Posted by: Slublog at January 08, 2008 10:34 PM (m4Jzf)

102 Frank J is a funny, funny dude.
I still go back and read "Nuke the Moon" every now and then.

Posted by: Moron de Blog at January 08, 2008 10:34 PM (fDEB4)

103 In that order, for now. But cripes...Thompson hasn't even broken 1000 votes at this point.

Posted by: Slublog at January 08, 2008 10:35 PM (m4Jzf)

104 How much does the Obamassiah hate John Edwards right now?

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 10:35 PM (hlYel)

105 Oh, I got plenty of begrudging for the both of us!

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 10:36 PM (+WuMm)

106 Get the tissues!

Posted by: funky chicken at January 08, 2008 10:37 PM (I+jPP)

107 I just flipped over to MSNBC for a minute.
And Keith Olberman joked about "kicking John McCain when he was down".

Now I'm not all about McCain's service and I don't want him to be POTUS but joking about kicking a former POW is just plain mother fucking wrong -- not to put too fine a point on it.

Posted by: Moron de Blog at January 08, 2008 10:38 PM (fDEB4)

108 I know it's sick, but Hillary actually gives me a woody.

Posted by: Tom at January 08, 2008 10:39 PM (1Mq7K)

109 It happened just a couple of minutes ago.
Fuck Keith Olberman.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at January 08, 2008 10:39 PM (fDEB4)

110 Has Durham reported yet?

Posted by: Slublog at January 08, 2008 10:40 PM (m4Jzf)

111 Obama is a tremendous public speaker, and a charismatic, attractive young fellow. I don't think his bubble has burst, so much as he's suffered a regional voting difference. Hillary wins New Hampshire thanks to being from nearby New York.

On the other side, Mitt ignored New Hampshire hoping his Massachusetts credentials would carry the neighboring state. However, McCain won New Hampshire last time, thanks to Independents. Nonetheless, a second place finish isn't ruinous for Romney. Second in Iowa, first in Wyoming, and second in New Hampshire still makes Mitt the front runner since McCain was fourth in Iowa and zeroth in Wyoming.

In the long term, I think it's ideal for Mitt to take the Republican nomination and Hillary to take the Democratic. Mitt lacks Fred's gravitas and consistency, but he damn well appears presidential, while Hillary is screechy and irritating. In the general election, I think Mitt would pwn! Hillary. As much as I might wish for a Fredalanche, I don't see it happening, so Mitt is my candidate.

Posted by: Justin at January 08, 2008 10:41 PM (wXxAY)

112 The McCain vote is a protest vote against the GOP's establishment candidate. That's what happened in 2000, too.

Posted by: mrp at January 08, 2008 10:42 PM (HjPtV)

113 Proof that NH is full of morons: Ron Paul 8%, Fred Thompson 1%. Not only should NH not be the first primary, they shouldn't be allowed to vote at all.

Posted by: klrtz1 at January 08, 2008 10:42 PM (t9PYM)

114

so far the only arguable republican win is in Wyoming - get out the checkbook

Posted by: public at January 08, 2008 10:44 PM (Ge1ga)

115 Now I'm voting for Justin and klrtz! You boys fight it out for top o' the ticket!

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 10:44 PM (+WuMm)

116

How much does the Obamassiah hate John Edwards right now?
Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

Posted by: Silky Pwny at January 08, 2008 10:45 PM (LDe7u)

117 Update: AoS Decision Desk Re-Calibrating Its Statistics Software

Gah! Take a page from the IPCC's book, you're engaging in "an ad hoc fine tuning of statistical parameters"

Posted by: DngrMse at January 08, 2008 10:47 PM (B/qpp)

118 Who knew there was an Aryan Nation presence in New Hampshire? Or is that stormfront? I'm not so up on my white supremacist organizations.

Posted by: funky chicken at January 08, 2008 10:47 PM (I+jPP)

119 They can vote but it only counts in Venezuela

Posted by: public at January 08, 2008 10:47 PM (Ge1ga)

120 Riiiiight... Now the circus travels to Michigan, which, for all practical purposes, has an open primary. Somewhere I read that the Dems do not have a primary race (believe the DNC yanked their credentials for re-scheduling), which means that the Democrats and Independents will flood the Mich. GOP primary. Oh, the joy of watching Huck, McCain, and Mitt competing for Dem and party-unaffiliated votes!

Posted by: mrp at January 08, 2008 10:47 PM (HjPtV)

121 #112 - The McCain vote is a protest vote against the GOP's establishment candidate.

And who the hell would that be? We've got five or six candidates slugging it out and I don't see anybody more "establishment" among them than McCain himself.

Posted by: Z as in Jersey at January 08, 2008 10:49 PM (RiRew)

122 Hongqi, you're such a hobo! I mean that in a good way!

Posted by: klrtz1 at January 08, 2008 10:50 PM (t9PYM)

123 Z,

I think he just meant that it was a vote against a real conservative.

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 10:50 PM (+WuMm)

124 And who the hell would that be? We've got five or six candidates slugging it out and I don't see anybody more "establishment" among them than McCain himself.

Well, it depends on your definition of establishment, really. I guess NH voters really still believe the Maverick mythology.

Posted by: Slublog at January 08, 2008 10:52 PM (m4Jzf)

125 klrtz,

I do take it as a compliment. Hobo right back at you! Spot on about he the good folks in NH!

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 10:53 PM (+WuMm)

126 This who wins the vote thing is fun and all but Hillary has already won. She's not going to get blown out and the buzz will be about how she almost pulled it off after being left for dead.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 10:53 PM (hlYel)

127
Hobo right back at you!

What is this? Some sort of new moron greeting? May the hobo never be at your back!

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 10:55 PM (ylMt0)

128 Ding, dong, the witch is NOT dead.

Posted by: DelD at January 08, 2008 10:55 PM (SXTZQ)

129 Chop,

We have a cool handshake too!

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 10:56 PM (+WuMm)

130 Please .... Mitt's the hope of the GOP establishment.

Posted by: mrp at January 08, 2008 10:58 PM (HjPtV)

131 McCain will take Michigan easily, which is why Fred and (I believe) Rudy aren't wasting any time there. Rudy's working FL and Fred's working SC. I'm still very worried that the folks who loved GW "Jesus is my favorite philosopher" Bush are gonna go for the Huckster in a big way. I really hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: funky chicken at January 08, 2008 10:58 PM (I+jPP)

132 May your hobo always be fresh.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at January 08, 2008 10:58 PM (fDEB4)

133

Neener - neener - neener....I lied to the pollster.--John Q. Voter

Posted by: franksalterego at January 08, 2008 10:59 PM (npKrA)

134 Hongqi:

I'm afraid I've started balding. I think that might disqualify me from the running.

Posted by: Justin at January 08, 2008 11:00 PM (wXxAY)

135 mrp, yeah, Mitt's certainly the establishment choice. He's not the clear conservative choice, but the majority of movers and shakers in the GOP are apparently no longer what I always thought was conservative.

Posted by: funky chicken at January 08, 2008 11:00 PM (I+jPP)

136 May God be with you and bless you with hobos.
May you see your hobo's children.
May you be poor in misfortunes with the long blade
and rich in hobo-blessings.
May you know nothing but hobo-happiness
from this day forward.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at January 08, 2008 11:03 PM (fDEB4)

137 If Obama comes back to a near tie with Hillary I take back the accusation that NH is racist. Still a bunch of fucking homosexual morons though. We need to build a mile high dirt berm all around the border of NH to wall them off.

Posted by: klrtz1 at January 08, 2008 11:03 PM (t9PYM)

138 Not so Sir Justin! I am a conservative...looks and "change" don't sway my decision. Clear concise government staying the hell out of my life...just gets me all hillary teary eyed!

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 11:04 PM (+WuMm)

139 May the hobos rise up to meet you.
May the hobos always have their backs turned.
May the sun shine warm upon your face,
and hobos fall soft upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
May God hold you in the palm of His hand.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at January 08, 2008 11:04 PM (fDEB4)

140 Sorry Justin,

klrtz just took it with the New Wall. Not unless you care to up it to a nice carpet bombing? Always a sucker for good ole fashion bombings!

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 11:07 PM (+WuMm)

141 Don't know how current Poltico is, but Obama olny needs 2.5 to take it from hilllary.

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 11:10 PM (+WuMm)

142
OMG, I can't believe they are holding another Republican Pussies for Obama Convention. Woe is them!

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 11:11 PM (ylMt0)

143

If by 2.5 you mean 2.5 voters, then he has a shot

If you mean 2.5 % points, then Obama is finished

Posted by: TMF at January 08, 2008 11:12 PM (+Ac3z)

144 Chop,

Who is they?

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 11:12 PM (+WuMm)

145

Nah, I'm still a Thompson-Romney-McCain guy.

lol, okay. Oh, and it's good to see that you're not on the fence with any candidates.

Posted by: Bart at January 08, 2008 11:12 PM (VAR7n)

146 Yeah, I meant the 2.5%. You are probably right.

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 11:12 PM (+WuMm)

147 May God hold you in the palm of His hand.

God loves hobos but not NH morons.

Ron Paul 8% but Dennis Kucinich only 1%? WTF!

Posted by: klrtz1 at January 08, 2008 11:13 PM (t9PYM)

148

Wait.

Does that say McCain???

What happened to Guiliani?

fucking McCain?

Posted by: Bart at January 08, 2008 11:14 PM (VAR7n)

149 Don't know how current Poltico is, but Obama olny needs 2.5 to take it from hilllary.

Even if he does, I don't see this as being anything but a close contest between the two, i.e., she remains a viable canidate. As I have harped on with the repubs, the same applies to the donks, these little states don't mean much. February 5 will be the deciding date.

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 11:14 PM (ylMt0)

150 Dennis was on Hannity today, must have lowered the Dem love a few notches.

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 11:15 PM (+WuMm)

151 Anyone else notice that Richardson's more than doubled his percentage compared to Iowa?

Didn't think so.

Posted by: notropis at January 08, 2008 11:15 PM (OvDHA)

152

How come everyone forgot that McCain hates them (us)?

Remember the torture fiasco last October when he sided with the Democrats?

Posted by: Bart at January 08, 2008 11:15 PM (VAR7n)

153 What happened to Guiliani?

He skipped it and put all his marbles on Florida.

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 11:15 PM (ylMt0)

154 Posted by: Bart at January 08, 2008 11:14 PM (VAR7n)

Yeah, McCain...dang it all to the lowest bowels of hell. I had to face a simple fact - Giuliani has too much baggage to win this thing. He's like a walking scandal-factory.

Posted by: Slublog at January 08, 2008 11:15 PM (m4Jzf)

155 Okay - lots of discussion about who we want (and don't want), but I'm interested in the rest of the world. Who would be the choices for the various nations? China is obvious - they want the Hilbeast. But I'm really wondering about Israel - who would be best for them? And, of course, the following:

- Fwance
- England
- Russia
- Iran
- Iraq
- India
- Pakistan
- Afghanistan
- Philippines
- Taiwan
- Australia

Any ideas out there from the Moronosphere?
Feel free to add a country that's not on the list.

Posted by: Timothy S. Carlson at January 08, 2008 11:16 PM (uBBUD)

156 I did advocate turning the Middle East into a glass parking lot once. Given the numbers, I think Iowa would be the target of my depleted Uranium. A simple clue-bat should suffice in New Hampshire.

Posted by: Justin at January 08, 2008 11:17 PM (wXxAY)

157 Between the two states they only have 11 electoral votes. For whatever reason, it does seem to set the tone for the race.

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 11:18 PM (+WuMm)

158 Well boys have fun, gotta go crash for work tomorrow.

Posted by: Hongqi at January 08, 2008 11:20 PM (+WuMm)

159 Oh God, silky is telling his sad dead kid story.

He leaves out the part she had leukemia and the liver transplant wouldn't have done anything about the fact she had a fatal disease.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 11:21 PM (hlYel)

160 Remember the torture fiasco last October when McCain sided with the Democrats?

McCain is a part time Democrat. Like Guliani, like the Huckster. Still better than a full time Democrat but I'd rather vote for a full time Republican. I hope I get a chance to.

Did I mention fuck NH? Consider it said.

Posted by: klrtz1 at January 08, 2008 11:22 PM (t9PYM)

161

Maybe I'm being really dense, but I'm confused about the whole "college towns swinging the vote thing". Aren't most colleges still on winter break now? And don't a great number of the people that live and work in these small towns that are entirely centered on a college go away for the schools' breaks because, umm, there is no one left in the town with all the colleges kids gone?

Posted by: bertramwooster at January 08, 2008 11:22 PM (DhThp)

162 Well, I've got to catch the 3:10 to Yuma.

Posted by: Chop Suey Palace - R at January 08, 2008 11:23 PM (ylMt0)

163 School is back in session, bertramwooster.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at January 08, 2008 11:26 PM (fDEB4)

164 Posted by: bertramwooster at January 08, 2008 11:22 PM (DhThp)

In the winter, most schools stay functioning. Many have winter terms. Things are less busy on campus when students aren't there (obviously) but it's nowhere near the full abandonment that happens in the summer.

Plus, I read in the Chronicle of Higher Education that professors and university staff were going for Obama over Hillary by a pretty good margin.

Posted by: Slublog at January 08, 2008 11:26 PM (m4Jzf)

165 Hillary isnt dead until 1)a twister drops a house on her;
2)her feet curl up and disappear; and 3)the munchkin coroner pronounces her "really most sincerely dead".

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at January 08, 2008 11:29 PM (kdePq)

166 Timothy,
India would like whosoever is the GOP candidate. We know that a GOP Prez will kick the terrorists in the nuts, while a Dem Prez will lick the said nuts.

Posted by: Tushar D at January 08, 2008 11:29 PM (9ULFg)

167

Slublog and Nom de Blog ,

Thanks...and just looking at their calender, Dartmouth started classes yesterday...so I was just being dense.

Posted by: bertramwooster at January 08, 2008 11:32 PM (DhThp)

168 I don't know that Hanover can save Obama anymore. Barone just said he could net 2,500 votes over Hillary. Well, she's up like 5 grand now.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 11:32 PM (hlYel)

169 I would love Hillary to win. To borrow the Dem's phrase, she would be an easy kill in the Presidential election. A GOP candidate defeating Obama will be like Christ being crucified all over again. GOP voters will be resented for next 2000+ years. Better if Hillary does it.

Posted by: Tushar D at January 08, 2008 11:32 PM (9ULFg)

170 >> Posted by: bertramwooster

Heh. We have P.G. Wodehouse fans here. AoS does attract all kinds of people.

Posted by: Tushar D at January 08, 2008 11:33 PM (9ULFg)

171 AP and a network just called it for Hillary.

She won! Whoo hoo!

Posted by: ace at January 08, 2008 11:35 PM (SXBHu)

172 I want to do a PG Wodehouse group-read thing. But only a few of his stories are online.

Posted by: ace at January 08, 2008 11:35 PM (SXBHu)

173 >>AP and a network just called it for Hillary.

Let Hillary be known as the Judas who betrayed The Messiah.

Posted by: Tushar D at January 08, 2008 11:36 PM (9ULFg)

174 Project Gutenberg has a few PG Wodehouse stories, but not all. One would think the copyright has expired by now.

Posted by: Tushar D at January 08, 2008 11:38 PM (9ULFg)

175 Tushar!

How are things?

What's a good Wodehouse book? I am ashamed to admit I've never read any but have always meant to.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 11:39 PM (hlYel)

176 Go Hillary! that felt kinda dirty :-)

Posted by: funky chicken at January 08, 2008 11:40 PM (I+jPP)

177 Whoa! Project Gutenberg has about 40 PGW stories now.

Posted by: Tushar D at January 08, 2008 11:40 PM (9ULFg)

178 Aww, Hill wins? I was hoping we'd have another one of Obama's vapid high school student government victory speeche. Ya know... for the kids.

Posted by: Mark V. at January 08, 2008 11:41 PM (dZ4mk)

179 I smell a rat.

Posted by: eman at January 08, 2008 11:41 PM (8iSfZ)

180 Drew, go here, scroll down to Wodehouse, and read them all. After a couple, you will be hooked. The ones with Wooster and Jeeves are the best.

Posted by: Tushar D at January 08, 2008 11:42 PM (9ULFg)

181 Does she cry during the victory speech?

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 11:42 PM (hlYel)

182 I smell a rat too. Come talk to me.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at January 08, 2008 11:43 PM (dh4Tv)

183

Our long national menopause is over. What I said about getting the old farts' vote.

Four primaries/cauci + Wyoming: 5 different winners.

Posted by: Silky Pwny at January 08, 2008 11:43 PM (LDe7u)

184 Thanks TD. I'll give 'em a look.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 11:44 PM (hlYel)

185 >>Does she cry during the victory speech?

rumor has it that one of her hands was furiously busy down there.

**my work here is done**

Posted by: Tushar D at January 08, 2008 11:45 PM (9ULFg)

186 Tushar,

You want to do a PG Wodehouse group-read thing? I know there's a few stories I like and would recommend, maybe you know more. Being Indian and all. I read Indians are ga-ga for wodehouse. (Seriously, I did.)

I'd like to class this place up a little.

Posted by: ace at January 08, 2008 11:45 PM (SXBHu)

187 What the hell? I've spent forty years grooming you chumps in public schools and colleges all across America specifically for this moment and this is the best you can do?

Looks like you all need some more affirmative action.

Posted by: White Guilt at January 08, 2008 11:46 PM (eij1W)

188 So much for Tushar classing the place up.

Once a moron, always a moron.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 11:46 PM (hlYel)

189

My exposure to college lib chicks leads me to believe that they have been dying for the day to vote for Hillary!

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 08, 2008 11:49 PM (NldkF)

190 Ace,
PG was a bit popular in India when I was in college. Don't know about today. I like the idea, but I doubt the average AoS reader/commenter will be too interested. Not enough profanity. I would sift through the pile and drop you a line.

Posted by: Tushar D at January 08, 2008 11:50 PM (9ULFg)

191

DrewM,

Definately, all the Jeeves and Wooster books are good...Jeeves and the Tie that Binds is a personal favorite

Posted by: bertramwooster at January 08, 2008 11:52 PM (DhThp)

192 Nary a hobo was harmed in the making of this thread.

Posted by: klrtz1 at January 08, 2008 11:54 PM (t9PYM)

193 I'm sure that the Magical Negro can shit a rainbow or something and make the whole thing better. You watch.

Posted by: Bart at January 08, 2008 11:55 PM (VAR7n)

194 I like the "Egg" books too, the "Drones" maybe, the school boys ones?

Posted by: ace at January 08, 2008 11:56 PM (SXBHu)

195 bertramwooster

Thanks. I have to put them on my reading list.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2008 11:56 PM (hlYel)

196

You know what would class this place up? Yep, that's right...

A roundtable symposium on cock.

Posted by: Tom at January 08, 2008 11:57 PM (uOvAE)

197

Ace, you magnificent bastard, you called it right! And quick! The democratic machine pulled this one out of the fire for FakeTears Clinton. And took a little fire out of the Obamanator at the same time.

RWS must be dancing around the house like a mad woman. Not a bad speech by McCain, either.

I'm bedamned if I am watching FakeTears screech about her win. Too many people to sue tomorrow and too little time.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at January 08, 2008 11:59 PM (IV570)

198 Any AoS moron will readily identify with Bertie Wooster. They are all like Bertie, except the money ofcourse. 'Right Ho Jeeves' and 'My Man Jeeves' are good.

Posted by: Tushar D at January 08, 2008 11:59 PM (9ULFg)

199 Wow, Obama's giving a magnificent speech and sounds so much like Martin Luther King.

You may not remember his speaches; heck, I don't. My dad told me how moving they were.

But I've heard them.

And that's what Obama sounds like... this is his concession speech for this part of the candidate selection process. He may not win now... but one day, he'll be powerful if he continues this.

Posted by: Christoph at January 09, 2008 12:03 AM (hawOV)

200 Hillary's hit on Jeri Ryan has been called off for now.

Posted by: eman at January 09, 2008 12:03 AM (8iSfZ)

201 In Iowa, the child was saying, "I'm okay, it's alright.", in New Hampshire the child was saying "I'm okay, but I'm a little uncomfortable"...

Posted by: John "Trial Blazin' " Edwards at January 09, 2008 12:06 AM (a+auV)

202 Oh great. The primary just finishes, and Bush runs to Israel for cover.
(Airforce One has reportedly taken off for his Mid-East trip).

Tushdar D - "Tom" is in the room, so I wouldn't talk about licking balls, ok?
Heh.

I figured India would go Rep - but which one? I'd imagine the Huck would be out. McCain? Thompson? Paul?

Posted by: Timothy S. Carlson at January 09, 2008 12:07 AM (uBBUD)

203

Tradition be damned- this open primary shit in purple to blue states for the Republican nomination is a joke.

Now another open one in Michigan- thanks, I love having people of other parties pick my candidate. That can't lead to any problems, can it?

Posted by: jjshaka at January 09, 2008 12:07 AM (YElZi)

204

Tom said:

"I know it's sick, but Hillary actually gives me a woody."

Tom that because she's a fag, too.

Bring on the "Casa Grande, Cattle Futures", Ho.

Swift Boats, Hell, we got enough shit on her, that Vince Foster might rise from the dead.

PLEASE God let her get the nomination. Evern teh Fred could beat her.

Posted by: kempermanx at January 09, 2008 12:11 AM (tD41C)

205 Wow, Obama's giving a magnificent speech and sounds so much like Martin Luther King.

Only in the sense that he affected a fake black preacher voice. The words themselves were just another recitation of worn out democrat talking points.

Hillary's giving her speech now and is sounding like Edwards, clearly going for his votes once he drops out.

Posted by: forged rite at January 09, 2008 12:11 AM (eij1W)

206 Pakistan would vote for Huckabee, once he gets out the word that Mormons believe that Mohammed and Satan are brothers.

Posted by: notropis at January 09, 2008 12:11 AM (OvDHA)

207 Hell with Wodehouse. How 'bout some Joe Bob Briggs? Now THAT'S class.

Posted by: FishFearMe at January 09, 2008 12:13 AM (XWJh5)

208 I agree on the open primary. Pick a party, dammit.

The Arizona primary is only for registered dhimmis and Reps. Independents and others are excluded. In fact, I had to switch from Ind to Rep just yesterday (the deadline) or miss out on NOT voting for McCain.

I guess if I was a dhimmi and wanted to mess things up, I could re-register as Rep, wait the 30 days until the primary and vote, and then switch back to dhimmi. But the spur-of-the-moment "let's screw up the reps" impulse switches are stopped.

Posted by: Timothy S. Carlson at January 09, 2008 12:14 AM (uBBUD)

209 Wow, Obama's giving a magnificent speech and sounds so much like Martin Luther King.

Why? Has Obama switched from his usual smooth self to a wispy death rattle now?

Posted by: Timothy S. Carlson at January 09, 2008 12:17 AM (uBBUD)

210

Ah, the day that hope staggered.

It's creepy how much amusement I get from this. Tushar's completely right though, best she puts the stake through, or at least wounds him.

Posted by: MlR at January 09, 2008 12:18 AM (N7h3D)

211 Clinton's best speech ever. Not a fan of her, but it was good.

Posted by: Christoph at January 09, 2008 12:21 AM (hawOV)

212 HA, HA, HA, HA oh shit I just shat out a gerbil. Mr. Whiskers? Are you alive?

Posted by: Tom at January 09, 2008 12:23 AM (1kwK7)

213 Obama is very smooth, but very inexperienced. The Clinton machine is going to sharpen it's claws and shred the poor bastard. (here's hope!)

Besides, he looks like the secret love child of MLK and Carol Channing

Man, it's been a long election process...

Posted by: Timothy S. Carlson at January 09, 2008 12:23 AM (uBBUD)

214 EAT SHIT....SUCK-ASSES.
That's what I did tonight.

Posted by: Tom at January 09, 2008 12:24 AM (1kwK7)

215 Thank God...we still have Hillary to kick around!

Posted by: DrewM. at January 09, 2008 12:25 AM (hlYel)

216 I realize I'm committing an internet sin by feeding the troll, but why the hell does Tom think we're upset with this? Is anybody?

Obama would have been much tougher to beat, this is fantastic and I was hoping for it.

Posted by: AD at January 09, 2008 12:45 AM (4gDkY)

217

I'd like to class this place up a little.

Thanks for being a sport... we'll send weekly email digests.

Posted by: sherlock at January 09, 2008 12:48 AM (ojW85)

218

You know, I'm not saying this as an insult, but I honestly think Tom has completely lost it. I'm not sure if we finally got to him or he was naturally like this, but the guy has actually suffered a nervous breakdown here.

Posted by: AD at January 09, 2008 12:54 AM (4gDkY)

219 ERASING MY POSTS WON'T CHANGE REALITY.

EVEN YOURS.

Posted by: Tom at January 09, 2008 01:04 AM (1kwK7)

220 AD, those are Tom's hashes. I think the AOSHQ troll squad is on patrol, editing posts. Wheeee!

Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at January 09, 2008 01:07 AM (uOvAE)

221 Republican primary winner John McCain�s victory speech in New Hampshire decidedly underwhelmed the pundits...but it gave me a raging hardon for octogenarian viagra poppers.

Posted by: Tom at January 09, 2008 01:09 AM (1kwK7)

222 ERASING MY POSTS WON'T CHANGE REALITY.

EVEN YOURS.

Posted by: Tom at January 09, 2008 01:09 AM (1kwK7)

223 Wittle Cuffy: ERASING MY POSTS WON'T CHANGE REALITY.

EVEN YOURS.

Posted by: Tom at January 09, 2008 01:11 AM (1kwK7)

224 I wish I could be on the AOSHQ troll squad. If it wasn't for my devil-may-care hatred of authority and too eager willingness to use a gun.

Plus I snitch like a mothafucka . . .

Posted by: AD at January 09, 2008 01:15 AM (4gDkY)

225 AD,
You're a suck ass.
I love it.

Posted by: Tom at January 09, 2008 01:17 AM (1kwK7)

226 Tom, if I told you once, I've told you a thousand times. I'm just not into you, get over it.

Posted by: AD at January 09, 2008 01:18 AM (4gDkY)

227 AD,
That hurts my feelings.

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