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It’s like the 90’s all over again. Not the good parts like crazy internet and technology money. No, it's the obnoxious Clinton parts.

This time it's Hillary claims that Pervez Musharraf was going to be on the ballot in Pakistan’s now postponed elections.

On Dec. 28, during an interview on CNN, Clinton said, "If President Musharraf wishes to stand for election, then he should abide by the same rules that every other candidate will have to follow."
And on Dec. 30, during an interview on ABC's "This Week," Clinton responded to a question about whether Musharraf should step down by saying, "He could be the only person on the ballot. I don't think that's a real election."

Except, Musharraf was " re-elected" President months ago and the elections in question are for parliament. Bhutto was never going to replace Musharraf as President but the plan was for her to become Prime Minister. You'd think the smartest woman in America would have known that.

Now, most people would say, “Ooops, my bad” but not a Clinton. Nope, they double down by claiming we don’t understand the plain meaning of words.

ABC News' Brian Wheeler, Teddy Davis and Kate Snow report: The Clinton campaign says Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., did not make a mistake when she talked about Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf as a presidential candidate, in a recent interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos.
“Well, his party is on the ballot,” said communications director Howard Wolfson, in an interview at Clinton headquarters in Des Moines, Tuesday, suggesting that the senator knew the difference between the man and the party being up for election, but was using shorthand. “And I don’t think anybody questions that Sen. Clinton has a vast and deep knowledge about foreign policy.”

Among the many reasons to despair of a President Hillary Clinton is the need to parse every last word, in every statement. Something in Bill and Hillary makes it impossible to take their words at face value. It's probably their inherent dishonesty.

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:06 AM

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1 Yep, that would be it..inherent dishonesty.

Or stupidity?

Oh, and I, for one question Hilary's "vast foreign policy experience".

Am I alone?

Posted by: Britt at January 02, 2008 12:18 AM (FK2zk)

“And I don’t think anybody questions that Sen. Clinton has a vast and deep knowledge about foreign policy.”

Is that an axiom or a threat?

Posted by: VJay at January 02, 2008 12:18 AM (kico6)

“And I don’t think anybody questions that Sen. Clinton has a vast and deep knowledge about foreign policy.”

Well, I do, you fatuous half-wit.

Posted by: sherlock at January 02, 2008 12:20 AM (MIBYg)

4 I'm glad ABC went through the trouble to clear that up for us stupid fucks in the heartland. Yes, they would have done the same for GWB if he fucked up as solidly as Hillary.

A vast and deep fuck you to Kate Snow, you Commie slime. Unreal.

How about a date Kate? You like conservative guys?

Posted by: E. Buzz Miller at January 02, 2008 12:28 AM (v/XJX)

I question her knowledge of foriegn policy.

Posted by: anybody at January 02, 2008 12:32 AM (Ge1ga)

6 HRC has half-vast knowledge of foreign policy.

Posted by: BlacquesJacquesShellacques at January 02, 2008 12:39 AM (IUp2J)

7 Even I question

Posted by: beuller at January 02, 2008 12:44 AM (Ge1ga)

8 “While the NATO leaders met in the Mellon Auditorium Saturday afternoon, their spouses were hustled about Washington for luncheons and teas. First lady Hillary Clinton had all the other NATO wives to the Yellow Oval Room in the White House for lunch; Tipper Gore hosted a luncheon for spouses of the foreign and defense ministers and other dignitaries at the vice president’s residence.” – Washington Post, April 26, 1999“While Havel met Clinton, the First Ladies got together over a cup of tea.” – BBC, September 17, 1998.“Mrs Hillary Clinton shared tea and sympathy with Russian businesswomen yesterday, making her first public appearance since her husband admitted to an affair with Miss Monica Lewinsky.” – Birmingham Post, September 2, 1998. ” As the President toured an industrial park in protestant East Belfast, Mrs Clinton took tea at a women’s community centre in the city’s south.” – Herald Sun, December 2, 1995“In her first White House reception for the Russian first lady, Mrs. Clinton showed no tension. The women’s smiles seemed relaxed and they nodded agreement as they chatted at a table in the Diplomatic Reception Room, sipping from a historic tea service.” – Washington Times, September 29, 1994.“After the speeches, Mr Clinton escorted the two Middle East leaders into the White House for a first round of talks. As they met, Queen Noor of Jordan and Mrs Leah Rabin, wife of the Prime Minister, joined Mrs Hillary Rodham Clinton for tea in the White House family quarters.” – The Age (Australia), July 26, 1994.http://www.claremont.org/blogs/blogid.6987/blog_detail.asp

Do not question it. It is vast.

One lump or two?

Posted by: Noel at January 02, 2008 12:56 AM (GfBLW)

9 You know how a dictator like Musharraf could immediately regain the support of the UN, the media, and the Democrat party?

Change his name to Hugo Chavez.

Posted by: V the K at January 02, 2008 12:56 AM (/0sRQ)

10 I really really cannot bear the thought of another four years of listening to those horrible people lying and the press all "ohhh look at how well they lie, isn't it wonderful!" It sucked the first time and it isn't going to be any better now.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 02, 2008 01:07 AM (ZG2QS)

11 She/He/They really do think we are stupid, don't they?

ALERT - 10pm AZ time - 'Rollerball' is on TCM. The James Caan version. The good version.

Back to the bunker, sez I...

Posted by: Timothy S. Carlson at January 02, 2008 01:08 AM (uBBUD)

Vast and Deep.

They are talking about Bullshit, right?

Posted by: TXMarko at January 02, 2008 01:15 AM (Ndecv)

13 I think they have this version in posters on the walls of their headquarters.

Rules of the Organization

1. Hillary is Always Right!

2. If Hillary is ever wrong see rule #1.

Posted by: Geoffb at January 02, 2008 01:17 AM (YQJc4)

14     I think they have this version in posters on the walls of their headquarters.

    Rules of the Organization

    1. Hillary thinks she is Always Right!

    2. If Hillary is ever wrong see rule #1.

There - fixed it for you

There's some small print here about making sure Bill gets his saltpeter. Hmmm...

Posted by: Timothy S. Carlson at January 02, 2008 01:35 AM (uBBUD)

15 We are NOT amused!

Never have been and never will be either

Soxs-puppet out.

Posted by: Hillary at January 02, 2008 01:45 AM (YQJc4)

16 BTW.

"Rollerball" (original) is great. Still have the Laserdisc and should remember to look for the DVD. James Caan seems to turn up in many movies I like. "Thief" for one.

Posted by: Geoffb at January 02, 2008 01:51 AM (YQJc4)

17 I actually paid money to see the original Rollerball in the theater the week it was first released. Whoa, that was, like, 30 years ago. I thought it kind of sucked then and it certainly does not age well. Awesome soundtrack, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 02, 2008 02:42 AM (4P1WQ)

18 "I am the last person in the world you want to fuck with."

- Jimmy Caan

Posted by: E. Buzz Miller at January 02, 2008 04:55 AM (v/XJX)

19 See, I could have bought the idea that she meant his party, but then her staff has to say such bullshit like "vast and deep knowledge of foreign policy" and it just screams bullshit.

Posted by: Aaron at January 02, 2008 05:34 AM (RBiJf)

20 <i>One lump or two?</i>

Do not underestimate the importance of drinking tea.

Posted by: Joe Wilson-Plame at January 02, 2008 07:50 AM (x2Tky)

21 Remember Travelgate? The first of the Clinton scandals, the one that set the pattern for all the rest?

It was a pretty straightforward operation. The Clintons wanted to turn over the travel-office business to political crony, to thank him for favors rendered. Given that the travel office staff worked at the pleasure of the president, they simply could have been fired, the business shuffled over, and that would be that. Not pretty, but that's how the hot dog gets made.

But no, that wasn't good enough for the Clintons: because, you see, they were the most ethical administration ever. So, in order to carry out their little scheme, the travel office people had to be eeeeevil - to justify the change, you see.

And so, we were witnesses to the spectacle of an honorable, hard-working civil servant being dragged into court and forced to fight for his freedom against utterly bogus, trumped-up charges. Just so Bill and Hill could save face.

The Clinton modus operandi is that when reality contradicts their myth, well, you simply rewrite reality. Of course, reality doesn't always cooperate - call is the stain on the blue dress effect. But by God, they will do everything they can to jam truth into the procrustean bed of the Clinton Myth. It wasn't pretty then, and it sure won't be pretty in the next Clinton administration, either.

Posted by: Brown Line at January 02, 2008 07:53 AM (OJ6qn)

22 Dealing with the Clintons is the same as dealing with teenage children - you have to ask the right question, in the right way, and must be good and clever with follow-up questions to make sure you eliminate any and all linguistic wiggle room. It can be fun to do this, a sort of mental exercise, but like anything done too often will become tiresome and boring. I am there with the Clintons; gawd I hate them. I extra-double hate the MSM for kissing their (large) asses so wetly.

Posted by: too many steves at January 02, 2008 08:23 AM (0QaNZ)

23 Gravitas.
Gravitas.
Gravitas.
Gravitas.
Gravitas.

Posted by: E. Buzz Miller at January 02, 2008 08:35 AM (v/XJX)

24 that smarmy puke, Wolfson, like the other Clinton toadies, are a perfect reason to vote against her

Posted by: Frank G at January 02, 2008 08:47 AM (Ydps9)

25 Something in Bill and Hillary makes it impossible to take their words at face value.

That "something" would be their vocal chords.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 02, 2008 09:43 AM (ERV3B)

26 A couple of quotes from the 90's about Bill also apply to Hillary. She is Bill without the key to the box of smarmy charisma.

"Bill Clinton would rather climb a tree to tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth"

"Every word he says is a lie including 'and' and 'the'."

There were some good things about the 90's but Bill and Hill are not it.

To Joe Wilson-Plame,
Thanks for the quote from "Thief".

Posted by: Geoffb at January 02, 2008 11:01 AM (YQJc4)

27 Some ask the question "Does she have gravitas?".

Or, maybe some don't. It depends.

Some wonder about Bush's gravitas when asked who the President of Pakistan is.

But not so much Hillary.

Posted by: E. Buzz Miller at January 02, 2008 11:08 AM (v/XJX)

28 Dealing with the Clintons is the same as dealing with teenage children - you have to ask the right question, in the right way, and must be good and clever with follow-up questions to make sure you eliminate any and all linguistic wiggle room. It can be fun to do this, a sort of mental exercise, but like anything done too often will become tiresome and boring.

Arkansas newspaper columnist/editor Paul Greenberg once said that when Slick was governor there, the reporters covering the capital used to play a game they called 'Spot the Rabbit Hole' which is, taking Slick's latest statement, press release, etc., and seeing who can be the first to figure out where the linguistic/rhetorical hole is that Clinton would be able to dive down at some later date and claim that what he said meant the exact opposite of what he was trying to get everyone to think he meant to begin with.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 02, 2008 11:10 AM (4P1WQ)

29 This is just a linguistics issue guys, it's similar to Bill's issues with the definition of "is".

"On the ballot" was actually "on the ballet", he was taking in a show later.

"Candidate" is actually "candid ate" he tends to eat in secluded rooms in upscale invitation only private restaurants.

"Stand for election"; hmm, how to put this delicately ... well, it was a botched joke, she didn't really need to go blue, but her A material wasn't working that day.

Simple misunderstandings every one.

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