1 It's a good thing Global Warming fundamentalists are impervious to reality otherwise this might ruin their day.

2 I am liking this soooo much. Outstanding post, Ace!

3
Since we are on the topic of funny math, they announced on the radio that the writer's strike has resulted in the lost of 122 million dollars of lost wages for the writers. If that is so, they make a fucking lot of money.

4

And expect the Global Climate Change^tm whores to respond that the science is, like, totally settled and we have to do something RIGHT FUCKING NOW or else the Earth turns into a scorching ball of lava.  Or a frozen hunk of ice.  Or both.  They're not quite sure which.  But still, we must do something NOW...

_{...before they're exposed as politically and financially motivated charlatans.}

5 What is the point of arguing science when the issue is faith?

6 That atmospheric temp divergence from the models has been known (and completely ignored by the faithful) for a while now. 

7 A lot of this shit is the result of the 60's douches getting a lot older and feeling like time is running out for ability to make a lasting contribution to society. They are all just so important.

Like the asshole up in Massachusetts that wants to get rid of "holiday lights" because of the global warming they cause.

They will get more and more silly and extreme, as well as more and more Stalinist, as they see the sands of time push on and on and their deaths closer and closer.

Fuck them.

8 I'm glad this is finally settled. The whole thing was getting tedious and not a little contentious to boot. Finally we can move on, which is a good thing.

9

Now, I want to see someone here post all the headlines tomorrow from the papers:

My guesses - Assembled with actual quotes from the article above

NY TIMES - Scientists project that climate change is ‘unstoppable’ even with controlling the emission of greenhouse gases, such as CO2, as is proposed in current legislation.

WASH POST - Climate scientists  publish results in conflict with the conclusions of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and proposed current legislation.

Boston Globe -  Observed pattern of warming, atmospheric temperature trends . Inescapable conclusion is observed increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases

Any bets?

10 And meanwhile the various big time fearless leaders of certian nations net in BALI to discuse this whole global warming poppycock bull kaka in order to punish americans for their achevments and laying taxes on us WHAT A BUNCH OF RANK HYPOTCRITS and the numero uno hypotcrit of them all AL GORE

11 Someone I know in Syracuse was bitching about all the cold and snow and then, completely seriously, said "stupid climate change!"  Because, as you know, until Chimpy McBushitlerburton took charge, it was never ever cold and snowy in upstate New York. 

12 Hmmm. It appears the authors' research presented in your titillating report is funded by major oil companies.

13 The real fun comes when the AGW fanatics start attacking the scientists and basically ignoring all of the evidence presented, after screeching so loudly about how AGW deniers are all ignorant and ignore the scientific evidence.

14

Someone I know in Syracuse was bitching about all the cold and snow and then, completely seriously, said "stupid climate change!" 

Yeah, well- if the Earth weren't warming so rapidly, it wouldn't be so cold out.  Or something.

15 of course they are, erg.  Of course they are.

Hey, tommy's stealing your schtick.  You don;t have it copyrighted, do you?

16

I live in Syracuse and pray for Global Warming to be real.

17 Well, budweiser, they are funded by oil companies. But think what you want. Anything to protect your fragile eggshell mind.

18

Hmmm. It appears the authors' research presented in your titillating report is funded by major oil companies.

Hmmm.  It appears that the authors of research presented by the IPCC is funded by an organization that stands to benefit financially and politically.

But feel free to get back to us after reading the peer-reviewed article and letting us know where they're wrong and why.

19 So I guess the term "peer-reviewed" is only important when it comes to your side of the table's evidence, huh?

Ya know, it's funny, but when I wrote about how, instead of addressing the conclusions of the report, idiots like you would jump straight to attacking the scientists and their supposed motivations instead, you hadn't even commented yet. 

S'funny how you have become so obvious and predictable as to be a parody of yourself.

By the way, dickbreath, or whatever name you are using today, it's wiserbud.  At least I have the courage to not try to fool people by commenting under a bucnh of different names.  Man up, pussy. Also, didn't the host of this site ask you to leave and never return?  Rather rude of you to ignore his request, don't you  think?

20 What is the point of arguing science when the issue is faith?

This wingnut webring meme is to me the oddest.  It is fact that Republicans base most of their modern ideology on two arbitrary "faith" based concepts-monotheistic religion and ( a twisted) patriotism.  Both of these are conceptualized in the mind and changeable.  Yet they try to imprint this type of rationalized thought on people who are concerned with the Earth's environment.  Isn't his just an insult to all the freak ass Christians that win elections for you?  What's more believable, anthropogenic climate change or virgin birth?  You and yours are never champions of the scientific method and have been having way with this country and it's reptilian mind for centuries.  Pretty nice to see this playing to hearts and minds-did you see that survey they did of hunter's and their opinions of global warming?  Pretty amazing.  It is over, and as the show of hands and toad face's temper tantrum displayed at the pbs sponsored side show in Iowa-game, set, match to the liberals.

Anyway, you fucktards can keep bellyaching and grabbing on to any outlier rabble rouser egghead you can get your sweaty mitts on.  this issue is going to be fucking you up one way or another for years.

21 Like fucking clockwork.

What's the matter, tommy, does it bother you when someone attacks your faith?  Is that what's got you so upset?

22

Well now that's a sharp comparison there, climate change and virgin birth. Why, just the other day they held a huge confab at some remote resort to see how they could get me to shell out thousands of dollars to relieve virgin birth, a problem that will plague us for generations. Wait, that didn't happen.

Do you lefties even understand what reason and logic are? Could you look that shit up before you make total fools of yoursleves here?

23 did you see that survey they did of hunter's and their opinions of global warming?

Yep.  Surveys and opinion polls.  That's some kind of science right there, that is.

When the facts let you down, go to the opinion polls.  Absolutely priceless.

24 budweiser

They're industry hacks. Also, had ace bothered to read the report, or a non-NewsMax summary of the findings, he would know the study cannot support his claims.

25

$5 says he cannot even correctly indentify what claims Ace is making.

Nevermind whether or not they're supported.

What claims is he making?

26 Well, entropy, that man-made warming is a hoax.

27 you keep trying that line of bullshit, pussy.  It suits you well to be a denier.

Seriously, erg, it's got to cause you some amount of pain to be that fucking stupid.  If not, it should.

28 Also, budweiser

Practically anyone can publish in p-reviewed journals, even though p-review is an indispensable judgment of research.

I'm sorry to make fun or your nick.

29 you keep trying that line of bullshit, pussy.

You mean, that I politely point out those many moments when you don't know what you think you know?

30 The climate is changing.

It might be warmer outside tomorrow, or it might be colder.

Next winter might be warmer on average, or colder.

It's changing, you see.

31

Super human genius: "the study cannot support his claims... that man-made warming is a hoax"

Lead author of the report: The inescapable conclusion is that the human contribution is not significant and that observed increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases make only a negligible contribution to climate warming

Brilliant. You grasp on speaky inglesh is it the very too beleivable good.

32 It's funny the way leftists and environmentalists have painted themselves into a corner with this whole global warming thing.  All along, they should have just been focused on the proven ill effects of pollution, which everyone is in agreement about.  But I guess that wasn't quite apocalyptic enough for them.

Despite what you hilariously angry leftists seem to think, we right-wingers do want clean air and water.  (Which, for example, is why we've been on the nuclear power bandwagon for a long time; environmentalists are finally starting to catch up with us on that one.)  Environmentalism in and of itself just isn't a hard sell, as long as you're vaguely reasonable and realistic.

Be uniters, not dividers, man.

33 You and yours are never champions of the scientific method and have been having way with this country and it's reptilian  mind for centuries.

The scientific method?  Perhaps you'd care to show us a single correct usage of the scientific method in studying AGW. 

This is your grand chance to just throw a link up to win the thread!

34 You mean, that I politely point out those many moments when you don't know what you think you know?

No, pussy, that wouldn't be it.  It would be your trite, pathetic, predictable attempts to attack the scientists because you can't attack the science.

That would be the bullshit to which I referred. 

Oh, and until you can man up and stop trying to hide your identity each and every time you return here, I think I'll stop referring to you as erg and, instead, refer to you by your true inner being - pussy.

35 It's cold out.

Is this the result of climate change or is it the result of global warming?

I'd  also like to know why global cooling, not climate change, was such a concern in the 70's when the cars were bigger and had less pollution controls...

Why didn't we care about global warming then?

Is it just simply the liberal mind that continually needs conflict at work here? I think it is. They feel alive when they "care".

36 What does AGW mean?

37 Anthropogenic (man-made) Global Warming.

38
What does AGW mean?

Anthropogenic Global Warming

39 AGW = Climate Change due to Americans, Republicans specifically.

40 Buzz, you win with the best answer.

41

Twenty years from now, after my son has graduated from college, I'll tell him about the global warming scare of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. He'll look out the window at the glaciers creeping slowly in and ask me, "Dad, was everyone completely bugfuck crazy back then?" I'll reply, "Son, Al Gore almost became president."

42 O, for fuck's sake entropy. Of course, you'd expect a corporate whore to say such things. But nowhere in this dreamy landmark study is such a claim made. Here's what the claim is:

Models are very consistent, as this article
demonstrates, in showing a significant difference between
surface and tropospheric trends, with tropospheric temperature
trends warming faster than the surface. What
is new in this article is the determination of a very
robust estimate of the magnitude of the model trends at
each atmospheric layer. These are compared with several
equally robust updated estimates of trends from observations
which disagree with trends from the models

Fucking earth-shattering, entropy. The fact Douglass extrapolates his findings to make such a claim, discredits him.

43 Man o man, budweiser. You one dumb mofo.

44

It appears the authors' research presented in your titillating report is funded by major oil companies.

And then what?

You addressed the science, right?

45 Isn't the planet made up of mostly molten rock?  It still doesn't seem to be that warm to me.  How much hotter could it get?

46 Yes, yes, of course the 'global warming" hacks are just pure scientists, who would never ever ever doctor their findings because they have absolutely no financial interest in pushing poorly researched or false data.

Oh wait, they do. Why, if no one believed in man-made global warming they'd lose all their research money and not get to travel around the world on tax-payer money to places like Bali. And there'd be no new world-wide "NGO" to manage the carbon tax on productive nations.

Well, at least, there's no political gains to be made. Damn, I forgot about raising taxes and socializing the economy. Plus, panicking the scientifically ignorant to vote Dim.

My bad. I guess it's just possible that the high priests of "global warming" may have a personal agenda.

Nah...

47

Sigh - the name changes but the whine remains the same. What amuses me most is that he likes coming here. He enjoys it because he thinks he's smarter than all of us.

Oh, and HE believes.... he believes. He accuses us of all universally and simplisticly accepting accepting.... but never questions any of HIS faiths...regardless of  any factual evidence.

 

 

 

48 Do the advocates for the dismantling of mechanized society understand that, at some point, there was absolutely no fucking life on earth whatsoever? That the climate on earth was no suitable for human life, and liberal Social Studies teachers?

And that that was NOT the result of Americans, Republicans specifically...

Their context is the context of a hummingbird on meth. The world to them was yesterday and today.

49

What's more believable, anthropogenic climate change or virgin birth? 

Virgin birth. But what is most interesting is you're comparing "science" to faith.

Why by chance do you think you're doing that? Take a wild guess here, clown...

It is fact that Republicans base most of their modern ideology on two arbitrary "faith" based concepts-monotheistic religion and ( a twisted) patriotism

This is a "fact" you have no evidence for.

You and yours are never champions of the scientific method and have been having way with this country and it's reptilian mind for centuries.

I'm not sure what this is even supposed to mean, but I could bog down this server with examples of liberals freaking out about Gentically Modified Foods and race and IQ. Actual, you know, science. Not to mention the whole ESC Research - When John Kerry is president Chris Reeve is going to walk again, get up out of that chair and walk again - bullshit.

You are an easily misled dupe.

 

50 I don't know lokki. Asking you to read the report would just be too much to ask, I guess.

Continue to believe what you want, in spite of the facts.

51 Meanwhile, in Bali, they're finally hammered

I can believe this.

52

I don't know lokki. Asking you to read the report would just be too much to ask, I guess.

As if you've read it, dumbass.

Go ahead, point out a paragraph, no a sentence, in the report that "cannot support his claims"

 

53 I wonder if any of the Luna Megachirops has ever considered if, for whatever reason, that they are wrong. It just blows my mind. We don't even know what causes freaking muscle soreness in the body, cannot tell the temperature in three days notice, and cannot design a computer that won't lock up on you every 3 hours, yet we KNOW--they say--a virtual tautology. The weather is changing.

No flippin' shit, tough guy. The weather NEVER stays the same. Yet, somehow, we're to blame for a fact of the universe. Dude, I bought into this crap when I was 12, read Omni magazine and thought UFOs were real. I got over it. Omni went away. Follow their example.

54

Continue to believe what you want, in spite of the facts.

You, sir, are under arrest for a complete and utter lack of self-awareness!

55 Remember the guy from the CEI (I think) who was threatened with the loss of his job, credibility and all that by an advocate of the climate change shit?

That summed up the mindset of the leftist very well.

Just imagine for a second if an asshole like that was able to get himself into a position of power in a government with no hint of morality, like the government of the USSR.

Now, would he settle for ruining the guy's career or send him to the gulag?

The tipping point for a fuck like that in that situation would not be much.

56 And that Stupid Moonbat was me, btw

57 I already did, Jay.

58

Global Warming is just a replacement religion for "sophisticated" liberals who don't believe the "hocus-pocus" of traditional religious faiths, but can't shake the elemental human need to believe in something larger than themselves.  They picked the biggest thing they can physically experience, the Earth, and have deified it and annointed themselves as the new priest caste of their essentially pagan religion.  Complete with a devil (the industrialized West), an apocolypse (Global Climate Change) and rules for how to live (reduced footprint, etc.).  They even have penance and indulgences now (carbon offsets).

Its a friggin' religion, and as we all now, nothing gets people pissed quicker than challenging their religion.  Check out erg and tommy frothing.  This shit really matters to them.  Its what animates and motivates them because they believe, man.  They really believe. One day you apostates and infidels will see! You'll see!!1!

59

"You and yours are never champions of the scientific method"

 

I actually use the scientific method (and have for nearly 20 yrs.).  Do you?

 

"Practically anyone can publish in p-reviewed journals"

 

No, not practically anyone.  Anyone.  At least, anyone that can pass the peer review process.  I've published peer reviewed articles and I've served as a reviewer.   Have you?  I've served as a reviewer for grant proposals, and I've been awarded grants that were peer reviewed.  Have you?

 

"Perhaps you'd care to show us a single correct usage of the scientific method in studying AGW."

Indeed.  Perhaps (s)he'd care to explain how to test the hypothesis: global warming is caused by humans.  Here's a hint: computer models don't count for these purposes (though they can be useful in other ways), anymore than flying a flight simulator is actually flying an aircraft.

60

What Fred said.

Most religions die pretty quickly.  Only a handful have made the grade.  Hopefully this one dies real soon.

61 Yes, Crimso, I'm regularly published, was an assistant ed. for a law j., and have reviewed books and articles.

anymore than flying a flight simulator is actually flying an aircraft.

haha. Oh, bullshit.

62 Right.  It's bullshit because a computer model really is real right?  Uh-huh.

63

Oh, bullshit.

Finally!  Some intellectual honesty from the ergster!

64

Anthropogenic Global Warming?

Heavens. That sounds...so XVIIIth century.

What next? Psychoterrasomatic Global Warming? We think it happens, so it happens?

65 (Thanks, BTW, for cluing/clueing me in. Oh, we Rethuglikkans are mighty powerful indeed!)

66

Pretty nice to see this playing to hearts and minds-did you see that survey they did of hunter's and their opinions of global warming? 

Can just one of you sociopathic freaks make a case for the laughably stupid shit you defend so zealously without referring to some fucking opinion poll?

Just once would be nice.

67
This Environment is lost.

68 How do you test the hypothesis, oh dead wealthy industrialist?  Or is it live lawyer?

69 "was an assistant ed. for a law j..."

That tells me everything  I need to know, you undead, brain-eating monster!

(My apologies to those of you in the legal field that actually have souls. Both of you.)

70 And BTW, an untestable hypothesis ain't science.

71 Ooooh, a law journal, supra.    More assholery, ad hominem, and appeal to authority, infra.  Computer models aren't science.     

72

Isn't his just an insult to all the freak ass Christians that win elections for you?  What's more believable, anthropogenic climate change or virgin birth?

As a rejoinder, erg, how about this: who's more dangerous:

- someone who believes in virgin birth and doesn't advocate some kind of coercion to get you to do the same (i.e. every Christian not highlighted in a hit piece by Christianne Amanpour)

- someone that wants to forcibly impose massive socio-economic restrictions on a global scale in the name of combating some purely theoretical future "cataclysm" scenario for which no compelling scientific case can be made

- a proud, sneering atheist warrior like the Munckster who favors man-playing-god geo-engineering efforts (even if we aren't the cause of global warmeningboo!) that have at least as much chance of killing the entire human race as they do to fix whatever windmill you arrested development narcisstic jerkoffs are tilting at today

Take your time, erg.  We all know about your many, many, many debilitating handicaps.

73 I already did, Jay

You did no such thing.

74 It ain't over till the fat man (Al Gore) sings

75

I sometimes think that the art of writing has died in the West. And then I come to Ace's. You guys make me proud. Excellent mastery of words, both Ace and his morons.

(I'm serious.)

Plus, y'all actually argue with facts and reality. Bonanza!

76 I'm regularly published

Buttplug Monthly doesn't count.

77
Everybody was Enviro Fighting
Those cats were blaming our lighting
And you know it was a little bit frightening
No question of facts only the Timing

Wo-Ho-Ho-Hoooo (Toooo soooon!)
Wo-Ho-Ho-Hoooo (Toooo soooon!)

78

Yes, Crimso, I'm regularly published, was an assistant ed. for a law j., and have reviewed books and articles.

Assistant editor for a law journal?  Did he just use that?

Here's a hint, sweetie.  When you want to pretend to be someone of authority and importance, at least invent qualifications that most of us don't expect out of the guy shoveling our driveways or repainting our mailboxes.

_{No offense meant to good conservatives trying to make ends meet between jobs by shoveling driveways, repainting mailboxes, or assisting in the editing of law journals.}

79 No offense meant to good conservatives trying to make ends meet between jobs by shoveling driveways, repainting mailboxes, or assisting in the editing of law journals.

Hanging head and shame. "Yes, sir, I would love to supersize your order."

80

erg,

What color is your Prius?

81

It really has become frightening. This asshat is so assured of the rightness of his holy cause.

My SUV must die  because he says so.  And none of his Scientists have ever, ever, been wrong. Only OUR religions are wrong; not his.

82

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=f80a6386-802a-23ad-40c8-3c63dc2d02cb

 

OK Tom, armandhammer, et al - Where is your Al God now?

All 400 of these guys working for the oil industry?  The U.S. Senate too?

 

 

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