1 Lets just be brutaly honest, if he wasn't a minister there would be no difference between him and Ron Paul.

2 Lets just be brutaly honest, if he wasn't a minister there would be no difference between him and Ron Paul.

On foreign policy. On domestic policy Paul is much more conservative than Huckabee.

3 The guy actually makes the Dem field look palpable.

4 The Club for Growth has a great television spot in which they show actual footage of Huckleberry as Arkansas governor supporting virtually any and every kind of tax that could be thought of, from increased sales taxes to income tax surcharges to higher cigarette taxes to new taxes on nursing home beds. No way on this earth that I would ever vote for this nutjob!

5

Let’s be honest, if it wasn’t for abortion Huckabee would be running as a Democrat.

And the homos, can't forget those disgusting homos.

6 Amish I was talking about the "crazy" factor.

7

God help us, he reminds me way too much of Jimmuh.

But, I have faith that common sense and a slow but sure Fred campaign will whip his ass.

8 OT, but this is just as scary as President Huck:

Justice Clinton

9 So why is he doing so well? If he is running left why does he seem to be on a charge? I think most of it has to do with the lackluster campaigns run by the other candidates. With the exception of Mitt, none of them can make themselves look halfway decent, and of course the media would LOVE to get someone like the Hukster to get the republican nod. If he wins Iowa life is not over, after all, Bush lost New Hampshire in '00. But if he manages to get the other big earlies I say it's time for some good old fashioned wheeling and dealing at the convention.

10 Yeah, but Ron Paul has the blimp.  So he's got that going for him...

11

I don't think war with Iran is even close to happening or a good idea at this point, but Huck is taking the wrong approach to dealing with the ME.

It's not "you scratch my back I scratch yours."

It's "you scratched my back and now I will cut your infidel throat. Burn in hell you filthy dog."

You don't deal with this by being their buddy and hoping their end times cult doesn't gain the ability to usher in the "end times".

12

To be fair, he does have that theology degree. When I took RELI 209, we read articles by theology professors that the Clinton Administration should have sent some Christian theologians to talk David Koresh out of his compound. Christian theology isn't as helpful in dealing with Islam, but there are some vestigial parallels - mostly in Genesis and Exodus, especially when read according to the Deuteronomistic worldview...

...ahem. It has just come to my attention that Mr Huckabee only spent that one year in seminary. Probably not enough to get a basic grounding in a Semitic language, or to learn much about Islamic origins. On the other hand he probably does know all the words to "Jesus Loves Me This I Know", so there is that.

13 Let’s be honest, if it wasn’t for abortion Huckabee would be running as a Democrat.

His policies and behavior definitely seem that way yes.

14

Oh yeah, the homos. Can't forget about them evil homos. So while Dr Mr Huckabee is making deals with the Islamic world, we can expect anti-ghey rhetoric and the occasional executive order over here - "Abrahamic values"! Can you say "polarization", boys and girls?

15 What are you guys talkin' about?  Michael Corleone is Huck's foreign policy adviser.  Can't get much better than that.

16 "On the other hand he probably does know all the words to "Jesus Loves Me This I Know""

Yeah, I think I learned all of this just by playing Bioshock...

17 The Huckster has just about reached his apogee. Mr Bottle Rocket will pop soon.

18 Huck Corleone: "Leave the gun. And the Cannoli."

19 If the Huck wins the nomination, I only have two words to say,

!!!CHUCK NORRIS!!!

His rise in the polls coincide with his indorsemant of teh Huck!

Chuck Norris really can preform miracles!!

20 There is so much known about Huck and his proclivities that I just don't understand these polls that show him doing so well.  Exactly what type of Republican overlooks 95% of his record and what he has said/written and says "gee, this is the guy I want running the country"?  His bullshit is completely in the open and the polls still show him leading?

21 The guy is dangerous imo. What a lightweight.

22

Alex, here's why:

TAMPA - How Joanne Rush came to sit among complete strangers in a dimly lit room at Bonefish Grill is a story, she explains, of divine intervention.

The Realtor and evangelical Christian from Valrico happened to catch the recent presidential debate in St. Petersburg on TV and was struck by one of the men on stage. He seemed genuine and spoke convincingly of God.

"He really tugged at my heart," she said. "It's funny he's from Hope Arkansas, because he seems like the next hope for America."

Rush, 55, arrived at the restaurant Thursday evening for a "meet up" with more than 20 others mesmerized by Mike Huckabee, the Baptist minister turned politician who has exploded from obscurity in a crowded field of Republicans.

They were old and young - a trio of college students arrived just in time for the Bang Bang Shrimp - men and women, mostly newcomers to political activism, from as far away as Bradenton.

"The great thing is all these people came on their own," said Eric Rathburn, a 28-year-old civil engineer from Tampa, his shirt bearing an "I like Mike" button. "I don't know them from Adam. As they say, it's a Huckaboom!"

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/12/15/State/Political_boom_is_bui.shtml

His ascendancy has come with increased scrutiny of his 10-year record as governor of Arkansas - a mixed bag that includes tax increases and support of a convicted rapist who murdered a woman after being paroled.

His new followers had not heard all the details, but they were not dissuaded, blaming the "liberal media" and arguing that anyone in office that long is bound to have baggage.

"Everything that they are criticizing him for is in this book," Rathburn said, holding up Huckabee's 2007 release From Hope to Higher Ground. "It's all there. He's explained it."

* * *

The meeting begins at 7 p.m. with a prayer.

"I thank you that we can support a man who follows you," intones Jed Kirby, 30, a developer from Tampa and Huckabee fundraiser. "I pray you will protect us tonight and just give us great ideas."

One by one, they go around the room for introductions. "I just like the fact he has God rolling off his tongue every time he speaks," said Roger Polanco, 20, a University of South Florida student.

"God loves Huckabee, and so do I," said Chuck Pynakker of Bradenton.

23

What breathtaking stupidity.  Didn't our lovely wingtip wearing diplomatic corps recently balk at filling jobs in scary, dangerous places like the Green Zone in Iraq?  Yeah, those folks are just going to stampede to work in Iran.  Seeing as how we have an embassy there and all.....right?  Right?

What a maroon.

24 Yeah Huck...Keep taking shots at the former fighter pilot who punted al Gore, John Kerry, Dan Rather, the UN, the democratic party, hung Sadaam Hussein, and kicked al Qaeda's ass all over the globe.  Thats a winning strategy alright...You're on a roll buddy...

25 Oh yeah, it's the liberal media getting upset at his tax hikes, clemency to rapists, and (now) Bush bashing. Lawlz!

26

As much as I like Cheney, all this loose shit could've been avoided with a good Veep who could've made a case for 4 more years, but more conservative.

Bush should have seen this coming for the good of the party.

The Dems are going to nominate a total stiff and we aren't going to be able to take advantage of it- nice job guys.

27

The Fuckster has to go down.

28 The Fuckster has to go down


He's leading now in Illinois too.

29

Look, all this shows is how the Republician party has grown over the past eight years.  It's Nuance!

Remember: Everybody wants the same thing -- Conservatives just want it slower.

(My political science instructor <em>tested</em> us on that...)

30

Do we trust these polls? We know the MSM would love the Fuckster to win the nomination (naturally, they'll turn on him the moment he secures it).

Surely, there aren't that many dumb Republicans. These polls have got to be bullshit, right? Please tell me I'm right!

31

Bah ... stoopid tags.

32 Michael Laurence - spot on.

When the MSM pushes a Republican candidate, you KNOW they have a "Plan B" to get rid of them after the primary.

We've found the plan B, but it's not like we can get the word out to all the work-a-long-day-and-watch-TV-news folks, because the MSM has its plan and will stick to it.

The grotesquely biased MSM will either run itself into the ground or run America into the ground, it's only a matter of time.

33 Huck is a finger in the wind that's my policy kinda guy.

34 If the USA is so hated under Bush, then why have the Canadians, French and the Germans thrown out of power their bush hating liberal leaders and elected more conservative ones? Why is our approval rating in the largest democracy in the world(India) over 70%? What about the people who received our aid in the many countries affected by the tsunami and then the subsequent earthquake in Pakistan. Do they hate us? Eastern Europeans love us. George Bush has taken down Saddam Hussein, issued a major beating to the Taliban and Al Qaeda, neutralized A.Q.Khan and had Moammar Khaddafi crying for his mommy. And he will deal with Iran before he leaves office. By the way, the USA lost more soldiers under Bill Clinton then we have lost fighting 2 major wars in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

35 It's demonic possession, that's what it is. Either that or the Hucksta has found a way to finger the evangelical's G spot.

36 Michael Laurence:  Polls are probably accurate (though very poor predictors in Iowa due to the caucus format), but quite transient.  Only a handful of states are being actively contested right now, and outside of those, the electorate is probably not paying attention yet -- because they don't have to.  Polls in the later states are essentially reflections, and a nosedive in the early ones will quickly turn up in all of them too.

I think Huck is going to flame out, but even if he doesn't, I'm still not convinced he could beat the last non-Huck (whoever it is) one on one -- that is, he may have a natural ceiling way below 50%.

37 Of course, if the last non-Huck is Rudy, then we have party-wrecking armageddon on our hands.  It's probably also the only way either of those guys can get the nomination...

Let's avoid that scenario, eh?

(Actually, the "Rudy doomed because Hillary's going down" meme that's floating around is interesting.)

38 Well, Huck opposes the Law of the Sea Treaty.  So I guess Malor will like him...

39 (Actually, the "Rudy doomed because Hillary's going down" meme that's floating around is interesting.)

It is, but I think Giuliani is doomed because while people may have been willing to overlook his...colorful sexual history, they are rightly disgusted by his use of taxpayer resources to fund it.

Guy's got too much baggage.  Get the fork.

40 If this POS wins the fooking nomination, I won't vote for him, I will vote for whomever is on the Whig ticket.

Why is this schmuck leading in the polls?  Every time he open his mouth I want McCain to beat him about the head neck and shoulders with a sock filled with pop cans.

Where are all the small government conservatives?
Can't we do any better than all the current chowder heads running?


ASW

41

The scary thing is that Huck will move even further to the left once he secures the nomination. You all know how it works: the average GOP primary voter tends to be more right-wing than a general election voter, and so the candidates positions will reflect that (the Dems, of course, move leftwards).

Once the primaries are over the two nominees move towards the center. The Fuckster will pass Hillary/Obama/Silky as he/she moves rightwards. Fuckabee will end up being an evangelical Marxist. You don't get many of those.

42 I said it in an earlier thread and I'll say it again, if Huck doesn't get the nomination he's going to run as a 3rd party candidate. Bet on it.

43 No, I doubt that.

Ace's "I'm gonna vote for Hillary" post is generating quite the furore at Redstate, btw.

44 The only wingtips I want to see are the ones with heavy ordnance between them.  Screw Huck, figuratively speaking, of course.

45

heh, ace I think somebody might read your blog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzzWFbHfbg4&feature=related

46

The other day I fed a troll with a short FO response. (And apologized to AOSHQers.)

My first reaction to reading this (as a Drudge redline headline) was:

FO Huck', you moron (the bad kind of moron, not our kind of moron).

So's my second, here: FO.

This kind of vapid stupidity from a Republican doesn't even require analytical reasoning. (Ahem, as it were.) The FO is ample enough.

...full disclosure: Fred! - But. Even if I weren't a Fred!'r, the FO is still my reaction.

 

47 Huck is the only person who can make Hillary seem like the least of two evils.  That is why the MSM is pushing him, giving him so much good press, and talking him up in the polls.  I honestly think that if Huck did not exist, Hillary would have to invent him.  But, as Jerry Garcia said,  If you are choosing between two evils, you are choosing evil-which ever one you choose.  Who knows.  He is from Hope, Ark.  Maybe Hillary did invent him.

48 Did he write his speech or did the Hildabeast plant some select libtard text in his draft.  Friggin incredible.

49

PS - I gave money to Fred! the other night, so I'm not an in name only: I've put my money into.

And. I am a frickin' cheap-cheap-cheap SOB, so that contribution meant something.

Well ...to me. Fred! hardly noticed, I'm sure.

 

50 Hey, Chuck Norris is for Huck, so he must be pretty good.

51 I, too, have given to the Fred campaign.  I was upset that when Bill O'Reilly had a vote for the candidates, he did not have Fred as one of the choices.

52

Michael Laurence: Maybe not in your church, for which you should be thankful. But I can assure you that there is a lot of Christian-themed socialism being preached from pulpits. Most mainline Protestant denominations and black churches are in full agreement that society (= you) isn't doing its part (= paying taxes) for America (= the state).

53 Day late and a dollar short, Spankus. Do keep up with current events...

54 This Huck crap is really irritating me. Too many of my fellow Christians are being short-sighted regarding even their largest issues, abortion being one of them. Then we have his foreign policy idiocy. arggggh

55 I just read through the whole ghey thread at RedState, and it seems that there is a feeling that "the base" will "do the right thing" and vote for whoever gets the nomination nod. I think that is wrong. I will not, in any measure, consider casting my vote for Romney or Shuckabee. They are piece-of-shit libtards who pander to thee lowest common denominator of the Repug party.

There also seem to be more than a smidgen of hyper-religious zealots on that website. Although Dhimicraps think that everybody who votes for Repugs is a bible-thumper, they are wrong...I'm not religious, but I'm not anti-religious, until I have it pushed down my throat. There are many of us conservatives who feel the same way, and Fuckabee's dogmatic religious bent is annoying when he makes it an explicit component of his campaign.

Not that that is the primary source of my dislike of him. Rather, his core leftard ideology is antithetical to conservative principles, and as somebody else has said, he comes across as a Clintonesque clone. Screw that. I'll vote for Clinton too, if he wins the nomination.

56

Romney nails Huckabee's ass to the wall on this:

Speaking at an event in Humboldt, Iowa, Romney said, "[Huckabee's] comments surprised me, they disappointed me, I expected a great deal more from the article than I saw."

"The last thing you're gonna hear me say is that the president of the United States, George W. Bush, is a person who is arrogant, with a bunker mentality," Romney said. "That's simply wrong and not something I would ever do."

57

Huck's a douche, but he's right about that arrogant, bunker mentality.

Think about Bush's attitude during the Harriet Meiers and comprehensive immigration reform battles.  His first instinct when Republicans disagree with him is to call us bigots.

58

Yeah, Bush has been a disappointment. At best, he will go down in history as a mediocre president.

Just like his father.

Maybe we should have allowed Algore to steal the 2000 election. Gore was a one-term president if ever I saw one.

59

hmmm. The Romney comments sound somewhat familiar. It looks like the anti-huck sentiment is spreading based on what I have read at other sites and on youtube. I wouldn't trust huck, but if Romney is picking stuff up from the morons in the comment box or the chief moron I might question his judgement also.

By show of hands:  How many of  you post more than 50% of your comments when you have been drinking?

60 While I might agree that Bush has somewhat of a "bunker mentailty" (particularly when he crosses his base) is it any worse than Huck's "you're either with me or against Jeezus" approach?

61 I don't do shows of hands. I also don't (can't) drink anymore, so my only defense would be to claim ignorance.

You know ... like Huckabee.

62 I wouldn't hire this guy to mow my lawn.  He'd probably steal my plastic pink flamingos.

63 >>But, as Jerry Garcia said, If you are choosing between two evils, you are choosing evil-which ever one you choose.

You had me at Jerry Garcia.

64 Evil is a strong brand.  People choose it all the time.

65 Wingtips are my very favorite shoe.

I'm so ashamed.



Oh yeah, Rudy in '08!  Because his favorite shoe is a wingtip...jammed so far up a terrorist's ass he can tie it with his tongue.


Scandals, shamandals...granted you have a mistress/gf, and have security, and are a chief executive, it is logical the gf gets security just as much as the wife and kids, for the same reasons.

PS  If you knew Donna Hanover, you would have been out finding Giuliani girls.

66

Id still like to see McCain get the nom

I can look past McCain/Feingold, Gang of 14 and "Torture", b/c hes good on the war and terrorism in general and I think he'd be relatively fiscally conservative

I also think, from anecdotal evidence (conversations with moderate folks without any strong party identification-which is the majority of the electorate) hes the most electable v. Clinton AND Obama

People who dont obsessively follow politics tend to hate Hillary, and are worried about the inexperienced Obama, and they dont like the idea of a Mormon president

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