1

^{As semi-recovering pussy myself, I have some sympathy for my fellow pussies}

Semi? You've gone Semi-Pro? Your posting made me think about this.

Don't worry though, you'll always be the most open, intrepid, and semi-wet pussy I know.

2

"semi-recovering pussy"

Says you.

3 Amen.

4

Yeah - you nice guys really need to smarten up.  Chilvalry and gentlemen like have their place, but they should not be confused with "nice". 

Women don't like nice.  Hell, they're all "nice" to each other, but stab! stab! stab!  This is why they don't like nice.  Because if you're nice to them they just think you're phony and are unstable like all their female friends (women are really good at projection).  They crave stablenes, even if it means bluntness, as long as you appreciate them, too.

Thank you.  My fees are $150/hr.  Call my secretary for your appointment.

5 Nah, I've seen him in action. Sure, you can actually watch him shale "The Pussy" off himself before he suits up for the game, but when the game's afoot, he keeps all the shaking and blubbering on the inside. To all appearances, our host is a brash, swaggering little Ewok with nary a hint of self-doubt. It's truly a wonder to behold.

6 Jesus.
Look, you're on the right track - sorta.
But go watch 1930's Clark Gable.
Swear to god.
You look her in the eye, put your hand in the small of her back and draw her towards you. If she isn't interested let her go. But if she glides in towards you then kiss her like you mean it. If that goes well start with the soft mauling.
Talking is for pussies. And established couples. Coupling is an activity.

7 :::applause:::

8

I've had women friends complain to me that the guys just won't ask them out.  I'll ask the guys what's up, and they tell me they think the woman is wonderful but she would never go out with a guy like him. I will tell them I have it on good authority that the opposite is true and they just repeat the same whine. What's up with that?

Then there are the beta males who really think in private they are alpha males and they "will not settle" for anything less than a super model. I say, meh. Let them never procreate. It is the best thing for the human race in the long run.

9

Ace is no pussy. And according to Steve, he was no pussy in college, either.

10 This is how the gene pool works.    Not my rules, but, heh. This is why Chuck-A doesn't breed. Damn good rule, come to think of it.  You're not a pussy, never were.   P.S.   Try asking her out before, BEFORE, your hands go around her soft, smooth neck. You can always strangle the filthy whore later if she maybe or no.   

11 If a guy is afraid to ask a woman out he should try the following tried and true methods:

1. "Joke" about how sexy she is and that if you were only 6 months younger you would ask her out. Gage her response. If she freaks out you have joker's immunity.

2. Go out as friends and make sure you both get tipsy. Any awkward passes at her are fully covered by drunken amnesty.

3. Tell her you had a really strange dream about her last night. When she finally gets you to tell her about it, explain that the two of you were going out on a date, you were driving the car when the brakes failed and you couldn't stop. She will know how to interpret your "dream".

4. Just keep asking lots of women. Surprisingly the sting of rejection only hurts with the first 10 or 20 women you ask out. After that, when a woman rejects you all you will think about it is "next". The law of averages are in your favor. At least one woman out of 20 that you ask out will say yes.

The key is an outward showing of confidence. A guy can do just about anything short of shitting his pants and as long as it is done in an outwardly confident manner it will not hurt his dating prospects.

12 aoshq janitorial -

Oh he's a pussy in most ways. Just not in terms of being a physical coward when it's time to brawl.

13

The best advice:  Just keep asking lots of women.

14

Life is short.

Ask her out.

15 clearly and plainly announcing their romantic designs on a woman

Just make sure you follow her home from work first, and do it in a really loud voice.

16 Do you know where "sympathy" appears in the dictionary? Somewhere between "shit" and "syphilis". 'Nuff Said.

17 Odds are low, seriously low, for those saw her on the subway, successfully chatted her up and dated her scenarios. Not that the gal wasn't attracted back. But women, with rare exceptions, can't go along with the 0 to 60 in 10 seconds route. they have to be eased into romance.

18 .....And please don't tell me that the guy who has 17 illigitimate kids, that he doesn't pay for, is an alpha male. Getting a quick piece of skank doesn't mean you've got your game on.      Shit, I feel like "Gore2000" even talking like this. Ace, go to a whore house already and delete this whole deal. Please. 

19

"5) Stop being such a little pussy bitch and ask her out already, you homo."

 

Thank you for making me laugh out load.

20 What's all this "asking" crap?  Who asks anymore?

Inform her.

21

I was going to bookmark this for my 8 year old son, then I realized he already proposed to his girlfriend.

Now about the tall blonde that works in the office downstairs...

22 I am a pussy.  I never followed up with the chick spongeworthy is talking about, and in the fight steve is talking about I had no choice.  I was cold-cocked.

23
Oh he's a pussy in most ways. Just not in terms of being a physical coward when it's time to brawl.

Didn't you post one time about how Ace always had girlfriends, who he routinely and affectionately referred to as "my little porkshop" and he would disappear with them for the entire semester?

24 Its not pussy to not ask a woman who is out of your league out and avoid the painful and embarrassing rejection. What is pussy is to instead hang around and establish a false friendship in the expectation that once you are friends, she (still out of your league) will give you a mercy hump. And then be all insulted when it doesn't happen. Like Chris Rock says, a woman knows in the first 10 minutes after meeting you if she is ever gonna bang you. Wasting a year of ass kissing friendship isn't going to change that decision.

25 John Galt: Ace is just writing what he recites to himself at gametime, to psych himself up. Seems to work, too.

26 Lots of good pickup/hookup feedback here.  I'd suggest any book by our recently departed Ike Turner as a primer to the new you.   What hasn't been addressed here is  after you screwed up all your courage, thrown your heart into the wind, jumped into the abyss.....and now what.     She turns out to be a fuckin' whacko that beats you with PFA's.  How do you get rid of the bitch without jailtime.    Yeah, that last part stumps me too.    

27

Its not pussy to not ask a woman who is out of your league out and avoid the painful and embarrassing rejection.

It (the above) is precisely Pussy.

 

28

It's easy to ask out chicks.  They either say yes, or they say no.  Big deal, nothing to be afraid of there.

It's after they say yes that all the crazy shit begins.

Seriously-- I spent most of my life being a pussy about asking women out.  I have literally been The Mayor Of Brotherville (TM), elected to many consecutive terms, many years of my life. 

But I've since learned something very interesting-- I'm not afraid of rejection anymore, because rejection isn't the worst thing in the world.  Pussy guys, trust me on this: rejection isn't painful.  Getting dumped?  Now, THAT'S painful, and makes getting shot down look like a fucking leg cramp.

That's what these breasty fellows need-- a good ol' fashioned humiliating dumping.  Once you notch one of those on your belt, getting shot down in a bar, on the train, or in a personals ad is, like, the dumbest thing in the world. 

Bottom line: guys, women ain't worth it.  Believe me, they aren't sitting around pining for *you*, you fucking breast.  Suck it up and stop pining for their batshit crazy asses.

29 I had no idea there were so many pussies out there.  Is this a Yankee thing, or a city-boy thing?

30 I've learned my lesson: no guy friends, unless they're exes. And hopefully, the nice guys learn that when a girl says "no, i don't wanna date you, I don't find you attractive" it doesn't mean "hey, there's still a chance, so let's keep hanging out until you go apeshit and attack my next boyfriend".

31 It's after they say yes that all the crazy shit begins.

That's nothing compared to when they put the ring on.

And yeah, every guy needs to get dumped at least once in his life.  I once had a girl dump me on my birthday...over the phone.

32 I think it's a northeast thing, but I don't know.  I'm sure the epidemic has spread by now.

33

Ace, when you say you "never followed up", you mean followed up like you never left a cryptic note that would allow the police to eventually find her body, right? Or you "never followed up" like you never untied her from that rusty radiator in the abandoned warehouse. That's what you mean.

Right? C'mon man, that is what you meant, right?

Oh Jesus...

34

BTW, you know what I think of Pussy Men?  We think like chicks, or what guys think chicks want.  We *think* they want the nice, sensitive guy who holds doors open and writes them poetry and goes down on them for hours on end.  We play that game thinking that it makes us attractive, nigh irresistable.  And we see the losers who these supposedly self-confident and secure women end up with, and wonder, "Hey, I'm better than that guy!  I'd never treat her like shit!"

Well, duhhh.  The women KNOW that pussy men would never treat them like shit.  Which is why they don't want pussy men.  There's no challenge there.  If you have no willpower to resist, if you're already "broken," there's no reason for the woman to pay attention to you.  There's no sport there. 

Chicks want cock, money and drama, not always in that order.  Women want men they can fuck with.  Men they can drive crazy, wrap around their fingers, play games with, make jealous, make victims to their girl logic.  If the guy doesn't play along with that, there's no "fun" there.

I've seen it, time and time again, with friends, family and me. 

"Nice guys always finish last" is a cliche for a reason, people.

35

"I've learned my lesson: no guy friends, unless they're exes."

Those aren't your friends, Joanie-- they're your no self-respect pussy-man harem.

36 Tach is correct.    The line for almost every single thing you want in life is.................I've got a gun.     Never make a move sober is good advice.    This from a man who was shamed, in front of a office full of co-workers, to take a demur little Greek woman out on a date. That's right. after a few drunken friday happy hours (every night for me back then) this cute, shy, Greek princess asked me to a movie and I told her the truth, that I was going to an all night card game. I figured I wasn't getting anything this nice.    Didn't Deserve anything as beautiful as her. The shit hit the fan Monday. Yes, I asked her out.   Sent a dozen red roses first. Had to send another dozen a week later for Valentines day.     Mrs Hutch knew what she was getting into. Kept my shit "walkin' the Line" as JC would say.     BTW You're a lawyer, can't you issue her one of those Supenises?

37

I could tell lots of dating stories, but suffice it to say I took way too many years to get it right.

2) Girls like flattery and it's flattering to have someone express clear romantic interest.

That's the only reason I'm married now. I made it clear I wanted her, and that's just what she wanted to hear. But I had to say it in order to find out.

One thing our culture, and many of our fathers, do not teach boys/men is how to be masculine. Not macho, masculine. "Male pussy syndrome" is just the flip side of macho. Like macho, it requires an enabler -- a woman who lets you act like a girl in her presence.

38

It (the above) is precisely Pussy.

No, it is realistic.  Sure, if you look like Brad Pitt and are afraid to ask a girl out, that is one thing.  But if you look like most of the morons on this blog it is simply common sense. 

The fact is that Jessica Alba isn't dating homely overweight nice guys.  Just not happening.  No matter how many boldly ask her out.  

39 Mommy, Ace said pussy.

40 So true, so true.  I used to be a a nice guy, and fit all the descriptions Ace listed.  Several years ago my job required me to do a lot of public speaking, a task I always tried avoiding due to an irrational fear of it.  Went to a doc and got a prescription for Paxil (promoted for people who are nervous in those situations) and that drug turned me around 180 degrees.  I couldn't shut up.  Speaking in front of two people or two hundred was no big thing.  The other amazing thing was I could walk up to the hottest woman in the place (bar, beach, walking down the street) and strike up a lively conversation, get her number, take her out, etc.  Amazing how having some balls will get you places you never expected. 

I stopped taking the drug a long time ago, but learned that being a wallflower/pussy is a choice.  Choose wisely guys, and talk to every hottie you see.  As someone else noted, 90% of the other guys out there don't have the stones to do so. 

One weird side effect (there are many) of Paxil  is sexual.  You can have sex for 45 minutes and no orgasm.  Great for your partner, tiring and frustrating for you.

41

dri, sorry, but your advice could land a guy in court for sexual harrassment or stalking now.

It's better to just directly ask somebody out.

42 Listen to the Ace.

Unless you want to be like Beta Male Allah.  Who, by the way, is reputed to be good looking.  Doesn't matter.  His brain still THINKS he's beta, so...

43

"Those aren't your friends, Joanie-- they're your no self-respect pussy-man harem."

Which is why I only have one guy friend who is also an ex. I'd say he was a pussy, but pussies don't usually ask, "Wanna go to a movie or come have sex with me?"  "movie"  "Fine, I hate you".   Okay, I guess you're right. Total pussy.

44 Ah ... who the hell is Dr. Helen, and why is she relevant? That aside - in my experience, many of these gals the average guy deems "untouchable", or "out of my league" are in fact tired of being hit on by assholes who fancy themselves ladies men and would prefer to be asked out by an average guy who acrs like a gentleman and knows how to treat a lady properly. Operative word ... LADY. Not a round-heeled skank who happens to have a nice set and pretty face but absolutely zero personality and intellect. Or maybe my generation was different.

45 >>>The fact is that Jessica Alba isn't dating homely overweight nice guys.  Just not happening.  No matter how many boldly ask her out. 

True, it's almost certainly not happening.  It doesn't hurt to ask, though.  Even just for the sake of practice.

The whole problem is that pussies like me are afraid of rejection and, weirdly, afraid that the girl will know we like them.  So at the very least hitting on a girl out of your league is a sort of tonic for that.

We need to get used to rejection.  Life is hard.  Dating is harder.

Of course it's easy for me to say this *now* that I'm way past the point at which any of this would help me.

46

Been there, done that and have the emotional scarring to prove it.  I silently bore a torch for a girl for years.  Oh, the whole "unrequited love" thing seemed all very noble at the time and I made one hell of a martyr.  So time moved on, she married a great guy and became an NFL cheerleader.  I was stuck holding a box full of doubts and regrets.  The question "What the hell was I thinking?" figured rather prominently in my self-evaluations for a while. 

Luckily, my story has a happy ending.  After three happy years of marriage, I've found that I'm not so interested in "what might have been" anymore.

 

47 Hey Pixie - I thought you were fixing this damned thing once and for all! Dammit!

48 "Bottom line: guys, women ain't worth it. Believe me, they aren't sitting around pining for *you*, you fucking breast. Suck it up and stop pining for their batshit crazy asses."

Ummm, Dave, does this mean you will start blogging again?

49 "who the hell is Dr. Helen"

The Instawife, AKA the only thing keeping Reynolds from becoming a RonPaul-obsessed crazy libertarian.

50

^{guys learn that when a girl says "no, i don't wanna date you, I don't find you attractive" it doesn't mean "hey, there's still a chance, so let's keep hanging out until you go apeshit and attack my next boyfriend"}

I was going to make some kind of sarcastic comment, but realized you need serious help.

Perhaps a sex change, perhaps drugs, but defin need something.

It would also help not to be a flirt with the Ted Bundys of the world. Just sayn'.

51 Ah ... who the hell is Dr. Helen, and why is she relevant?

Yeah, I get why her husband feels compelled to link her all the time but never understood why anyone else takes her seriously.

52 Back in junior High, a girl asked someone to ask me if I would go steady with her. I had to reject the offer because she had cooties. Years later, I heard she was a cheerleader for the Dallas F'in Cowboys. And that was back in the day when that meant something. So Dave... how goes the GF? Would love to hear an update.

53 Intructables -- how to date a girl out of your league moron guide

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-get-a-girl-who-is-way-out-of-your-league./

54

It doesn't hurt to ask, though.

That is where we differ.  I spent many years not afraid to ask, and ask, and ask.  Women can be cruel.  I found very few were willing to just say no thanks, more likely they would say yes then stand you up, or when you call, have sudden family illness, etc.  I had one bitch actually bring a date to our date.  I still can't quite get my mind around that one. 

I finally decided that if a woman is interested, you will know rather quickly.  If avoiding humiliation is pussy, well so be it.  I just got too old to spend any more time pissed and embarrassed by some semi hot twit bitch who didn't want to 'hurt' me by saying no thanks, so instead gutted me by leading me on then running like I had plague. 

and by the way, being rejected by really hot chicks isn't so bad.  Its when the not so hot ones treat you like an old sock that it really screws with your ego. 

 

55 Sack up.  Ask her out, she says, she was a bitch anyway.  Move on to the next one.  It works.

Pining away and being a "nice guy" is for emo-douches.

56

The fact is that Jessica Alba isn't dating homely overweight nice guys

Actually, she is, and is now pregnant (sob, sniff). Jessica Alba's boyfriend is some slouchy, hairy tub that looks like forty miles of bad road standing next to her.  He better fucking be funny as hell or treat lepers in Calcutta or something, or I'm going to drop an anvil on him.

57

^{Women like Anwyn and Baldilocks are telling them their act isn't working and will never work but they don't seem to want to take the medicine.}

Not to be demeaning or condescending, but are you sure they are women? Did anyone sleep with them or JackM. write them an epic poem?

Trust, but verify.

Just saying, Skip.

58 This post seems tailor-made for JackM and the amazingly lyrical and creepy Sena obsession.

Not that I'm any better. In fact, I guarantee that I'm more of a pussy than he, but Jack's infinitely more entertaining.

59

"I was going to make some kind of sarcastic comment, but realized you need serious help. Perhaps a sex change, perhaps drugs, but defin need something. It would also help not to be a flirt with the Ted Bundys of the world. Just sayn'."

There was no flirting.  It was a past boyfriend's best friend who was an incredibly nice guy, who eventually sent me "the letter", after I broke up with his friend. I turned him down, but he still wanted to hang out, I said okay.  Then one night when we were hanging out with mutual friends, he saw me kissing a new guy at the bar.  He then flipped out and started cursing and said he wanted to punch the guy.  Don't think it's me who needs the help, actually.

60 I like to ask someone out and break up in the same sentence; "I'm taking you out on Friday, but I think we need to see other people."
Chloroform is awesome; chicks dig the adventure of waking up in strange places, like my grandma's basement, with a ball-gag. Hey, you're welcome ladies.
Also awesome is the standard Roofie cocktail. Not as good as the chloroform, because you don't get the same fond memories of involuntary S&M so you can't get referrals, but it gets the job done.

61

I'd ass rape all these wussies apparently...  Shit, i'll ask a broad out and i'm married.

It's natural selection.  These retards aren't meant to reproduce.

62

Didn't you post one time about how Ace always had girlfriends, who he routinely and affectionately referred to as "my little porkshop" and he would disappear with them for the entire semester?

Exactly, he was a pussy. Your roommates are going to drive half way across the country to New Orleans for Mardi Gras. They have not arranged a place to stay. They've never been to the city. They don't know anybody who lives there. Their one hope for accommodations is finding a girl at Tulane who one of them had hooked up with the previous year at Spring Break in Florida. In other words - guaranteed fun and hilarity.

You choose instead to spend the weekend with your gf, who you see every day and sleep with every night. PUSSY. 

63 Check for the Adams Apple first.   Lola may be hot.....but...

64

^{Women like Anwyn and Baldilocks are telling them their act isn't working and will never work but they don't seem to want to take the medicine.}

Not to be demeaning or condescending, but are you sure they are women? Did anyone sleep with them or JackM. write them an epic poem?

:::checks::::

Yep.  Actually Ace and Gabriel have seen me before--but not the goods.

65

The primary cause of the epidemic of NiceGuy pussy-itis is that for the past thirty to forty years or so, we have been teaching young men the unfortunate habit of listening to what women say.

 

Our Viking forebears knew better.

 

Women, when speaking frankly, will always tell you never to listen to what women say. Women who are the mothers of sons will say this and more on demand.

 

To illustrate my point, ask a woman what she wants in a “guy.”

 

She will tell you that she wants a “nice guy” who is respectful, conscientious, punctual, and who listens.

 

She will then proceed to bang a string of felonious, battering bikers with Chlamydia.

 

A “nice guy” who listens to what women say will think that by becoming ever more respectful, conscientious, and punctual, the woman will realize – like in the chick flicks – that the “nice guy” that she seeks was right in front of her eyes all along. This is understandable – for one who is practiced at talking with men - but incorrect.

 

So, do not simply “ask out” women.

 

BE the man you were meant to be. DO what makes you feel like that man. Then, TELL the woman where and when she may see you, BEING the man you were meant to be.

 

 

 

 

66 I agree with Ace, but I'd point out that the guy in the craigslist ad has a valid point. If the "nice guys" (read: pussies) see the assholes getting all the tail, they're eventually going to act like assholes. The women need to reject both the assholes AND the pussies, and go for the decent men who happen to be assertive as well.

67 steve,

Yeah, that was a mistake.

didn't that whole plan spring up abruptly though?  The way I remember it there may have been some unserious talk about mardi gras over a few weeks and then one day you guys say, "Get in the car we're driving 2000 miles to New Orleans."

Plus, I was broke.

68

As noted above, women could help out a bit by giving an unequivocable No (Air siren optional) when they really aren't interested.  Seriously, I know I played the "friend" game in high school (and it actually worked once, briefly, with a lot of alcohol), but those who keep doing it just make things messy for everyone, including themselves.

69 Strange how, in a thread about dating women, Tom doesn't show up.

No experience, I guess.

As for asking women out, if I was afraid of rejection, I would never have gotten married to a woman who is totally out of my league.  Luckily, she likes guys with a sense of humor.

70 Ace - The fact that it was a spur of the moment thing makes it more of a "slam dunk, I got to go" event - not less.

71 ABB, you make that whole felonious, battering, biker thing sound like it's bad. I'm shocked. Shocked and chagrined I tell you.  We can't all be yuppie scum RUB's.  And that horseshit about most Harley riders being Doctors and Lawyers.....belongs right up there with "the checks in the mail". And the saying about your mouth..and ...arriving.     Don't put a poor girl down for pullin' a train.   Self esteem is not for everyone.

72

PattyAnn "Ummm, Dave, does this mean you will start blogging again?"

You kidding?  Blogging is for guys who *aren't* dating. 

Besides, I have no cool stories anymore-- all my work shit is shit I can bitch about no more.  And if everybody else raves about movies (No Country for Old Men is awesome), video games (Mass Effect pwns my life) and TV (f'ing writer's strike may kill the final ten episodes of BSG, grrr), what point is there for me to repeat all the same shit?

I finally admitted it to myself: I'm boring.

AndrewsDad: " So Dave... how goes the GF? Would love to hear an update. "

She hasn't dumped me yet.

Real telephone conversation that just happened:

Me: "Hey, I forgot to thank you for doing the laundry last night, thanks again for folding all the clothes and putting them away."

GF: "No problem.  And thank you for putting your penis inside me last night."

Me: "If I sleep with you, you do my laundry?  This is the best deal EVER!"

73

I never followed up with the chick spongeworthy is talking about

 

That was a chick you were talking to?

 

Huh.

74 Farmer Joe,

A lot of the guys getting tail may be "assholes" because frankly most of humanity consists of assholes.

it is a bit of self-flattery for "Nice Guys" to keep telling themselves that it's the fact they're Nice while the guys getting ass are "Assholes."

Maybe they just seem like "Assholes" because they're doing the girls we want to do.  There have been guys porking the chicks I wanted and I almost always thought they were Assholes, for no other reason, really, then that they had  what i wanted.

I don't think that too many "Nice Guys" are going to say that the dude screwing their dream girl is a nice guy who deserves all his good fortune.

Besides a lot of this is hypothetical.  What I mean is that Nice Guys say "If this girl would just be attracted to me, I would treat her like a princess and never, ever cheat or treat her badly."

Well, maybe.  But how do these Nice Guys know that?  They're never actually DATING a girl so how do they know how they'd act if they were?  How do they know that they wouldn't quickly find their idealized dream-girl really isn't all that and maybe they'd like to dump her to date someone more interesting/

The "Assholes" nailing these chicks are confronted with such choices, whereas all the "Nice Guys" are free to assume they'd be perfect gentlemen were they to date because they so rarely have this assumption tested by actually dating.

Crushes don't last.  And all these Nice Guys are nursing these long-running crushes.  Of course when all you have is a crush, an unrealistic and childish infatuation with a girl, you think you'd marry her and be true to her forever if you ever had the chance.  But crushes, like plan of battle, don't last very long past the first engagement with the enemy, do they?

So really, all these "Assholes" are behaving "Assholishly" largely because they've moved into post-crush phase and now have to decide if the chick they're dating is really the one for them or maybe someone they don't particularly like.

75 Please don't tell me it was the "So over him" chick.  Well maybe for a quickie but......

76 Nah it was the night before.

I could never be with So Over Him chick, at least not with witnesses around.

77 Sheesh, nobody's even used the term "pussy" over at Hot Air yet.  And since I missed the boat on getting a commenter ID over there, I can't be the first.

I'm a former pussy-boy.  It's tough to get over it at first, but it's worth it.  All that time spent being a pussy is time you'll never get back.  The only thing I'm even a little bit bitter about is that it took me until I was an adult to finally learn that getting shot down is better than worrying too much about getting shot down -- even though I had learned the similar lesson at a much earlier age that taking a beating is preferable to knuckling under to a bully.

Being straightforward is not incompatible with being nice and treating women with respect; and having the sack to make your interest known does not mean you have to be the obnoxious stereotype of the aggressive creep on the subway or the catcalling construction worker.

You know, women just like men to have the balls to approach them.  I've been working out of my firm's Boston office for a week and a half now, and the paralegal I took home from their office Christmas party this weekend told me the next morning that she doesn't like Boston guys because too many of them are pussies about approaching women.  So that's one data point.

78

I just use the cave man tactic.  You approach said girls and say the following "You. Me. Fuck"

You might get slapped 100 times but the 101st... you'll be screwing like bunnies.

If that's too hash, then you can try my favorite opening pick up line: "My friend and I have a bet. He bet me that your eyes are blue and I bet him that your a dirty little slut that wants me to take you from behind."

That one has a 50 to 1 slap ratio.

 

79

If you are trying to instruct your son on how to get chicks, and you are using words like supra and infra, you have moved on to step two: dumbass dad.

 

just sayin'.

80

Phew, I knew you were on the rebound, but a hogger like that....with witnesses.   I just shudder. The whole AoS Lifestyle would have been a lie. Unless you strangled her in front of the crowd.

81 Does this mean it's time for a Holiday Edition Moroncon?

82 Sheesh, nobody's even used the term "pussy" over at Hot Air yet.

I've asserted that the Craigslist twit was whining.  Only pu**sies whine.

83 Does this mean it's time for a Holiday Edition Moroncon?

As long as it's somewhere warm, and without snow.

84

Pussy boys should use my favorite pick up line from the list of worst pick up lines which I actually think contain a few gems if you say them right.  Used this the other night and was met with a giggly I'm offended but kinda turned on by your crudeness response.

I was wondering if you could settle a bet between me and my friend. He says your eyes are a natural blue and I say you are a dirty, filthy girl (whore is ususally used but as I said you have to adjust for the situation.)

85

"So really, all these "Assholes" are behaving "Assholishly" largely because they've moved into post-crush phase and now have to decide if the chick they're dating is really the one for them or maybe someone they don't particularly like."

Ace, you can also replace "Assholes" with "Bitches" as well.

BTW, here's a theory I have.  You see, dating is a lot like pancakes. 

You *want* pancakes, you think about pancakes, you can't wait until you have pancakes.  You see an IHOP commerical, you salivate.  You're like, "Damn, everybody else has pancakes, I want pancakes, one of these days I'm going to get my ass out of bed early enough to go have pancakes, and they're going to be delicious."

The moment you have pancakes?  You feel sick to your now-leaden stomach because you just ate fucking pancakes. 

And then and there you resolve, no more pancakes.  How could you be fooled?  They looked so good, they were perfect on the menu.  Damn, you should have had the Moons Over My Hammy, or maybe ordered lunch.  Perhaps even something healthy.  Why oh why did you eat panckaes?

Nice guys who never date don't understand this.  Ditto women who never date, or more likely, date or are married to the *real* assholes.  What they're both doing, however, is idealizing eating a fucking pancake.  Once they get the pancake, 99% of the time somebody realizes they never wanted a pancake to begin with, so they end up doing something totally out of character-- lying, cheating, chasing strange, etc.

Here's a helpful hint to all the pussy men (and bitchy women): if you ever get enough balls to get your foot in the door with someone, pay attention-- a LOT of attention-- to how they talk about their exes, how they broke up, etc.  I guarantee that your future is almost certainly written in their past.  We're all creatures of habit, and it's very, very hard to act against our natures.  Alas, we don't discover our natures until we're tested, just as nobody discovers they can't stand pancakes until they've taken their fifth bite.

It's hard to act against your nature.  Impossible, probably, because if there is one thing we ALL hate, it's mirrors. 

86 Rob B, polynikes, time to file that one under "overused"...

87

Anybody know what happened to someone2? She seems like a sweet girl.

Did anybody in our group kill her?

88 Did anybody in our group kill her?

She was around in one of the Huckabee threads, I think.

89 Fucking Huckabee probably pardoned the guy who killed her.

90

sponge, we met her at the palooza.

 

ace, I keed, I keed (about the "that was a chick"?)

91

Sorry RobB, great minds and all...

Its a better line than:  

Hello my name is someone and I'm willing to blow Fred Thompson.

92 ;">";">Does this mean it's time for a Holiday Edition Moroncon?
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Vegas road trip!!!!!11!!one!!eleven!!!!!!1

93 I think a decent screenwriter could shake a pretty good romantic comedy out of that Allahpundit situation. If I had a time machine I would send him a young Barabara Stanwyck for a cute meet at police headquarters. or a car-ride to University, or some such.

94 Actually, she took off with the waiter from Acepalooza, and they're living high in Hong Kong.

95 I knew something happened.

96 99% of the women that are pretty and seem hot aren't worth pursuing anyway. I think femininity in America is in even worse shape than Masculinity, if that's conceivable. women are just a mess, they have no clue what it means to be a woman, let alone how to act.

97 I'm bookmarking this thread in case I ever actually meet any girls.

98 If only we could distill this advice down to one simple phrase, like, I don't know, "Faint heart never won fair lady."

Too bad nobody was floating that one around in the past.

99 Ace, sorry I think you're wrong (and a lot of the other posters too). What we are witnessing is the predictable result of women's choices in men being unconstrained. Nice guy and A-hole does not enter into it.

No of course fathers did not "teach" sons how to date women. Because for them it was not something that needed to be taught. Women were far more constrained in their selection of men: less available birth control, condoms, treatment for herpes, ability to earn their own way, etc. Now women can and do make their own way.

And unconstrained by the need for loyalty, decency, stability, good earnings etc women choose the most hyper-masculine, testosterone laden, Alpha Male (socially dominant) guy around.

Here's an extreme example but you get the point:
Dallas News

An admitted "extreme" but the path for success with women is as follows: appear to be the most hyper-masculine, testosterone laden guy in the room. This can take the form of high-risk (racing motorcycles, X-games, etc.), musicianship (Rock/Rap only), money/power (see Bill Clinton), physique etc. but you MUST appear at least to be higher in testosterone than every other available guy. Asking a women out if you don't have these qualities is a waste of both of your time.

If you can't do this you won't get women. Period. We are entering a new environment for reproduction (women prefer "love em and leave em") and the reality is that most men won't reproduce because women unconstrained prefer the most hyper-masculine (which is not most guys, among other things hyper-masculinity is counter-productive in the workplace). Of course for women that means un-connected guys who will engage in a lot of misogyny.

Dr. Helen is of course wrong. But I think most here are missing the point: the fairly massive shift in women's selection over say the last 20 years or so.

100 Jim, that's Houellebecqian exaggerated BS and you know it.

101 That Dallas story isn't an example of healthy choosing of "Alpha" males; it's an example of women who don't recognize evil when they see it and/or women who are just plain fools.  All of those twits come from anti-death penalty groups.

102 Vegas road trip!!!!!11!!one!!eleven!!!!!!1

Nah, I hear that place is boring.

103 >>>An admitted "extreme" but the path for success with women is as follows: appear to be the most hyper-masculine, testosterone laden guy in the room. This can take the form of high-risk (racing motorcycles, X-games, etc.), musicianship (Rock/Rap only), money/power (see Bill Clinton), physique etc. but you MUST appear at least to be higher in testosterone than every other available guy. Asking a women out if you don't have these qualities is a waste of both of your time.

>>>If you can't do this you won't get women. Period.

Nonsense.  Don't blame women if you've got your sights set solely on women who are not attracted to you.

At Dr. Helen's a commenter pointed out:  What about all the "Nice Girls" out there waiting to be noticed by the "Nice Guys," who are themselves pursuing Dream Girls well out of their league?

Don't be shocked if Rocker Chicks go after Rockers or Biker Chicks go after Bikers.  If you're not a Rocker or a Biker what the hell are you doing chasing them?

And if you're so attracted to them, and ONLY them, I'm sorry, then it's about time you bought a motorcycle and/or joined a Whitesnake cover band. 

104 Look, we all know what the problem is - "Bitches Ain't Shit".

105

Ask her out.

Then take off your pants.

I had that backwards for awhile and, well, imagine the consequences.

 

106

Outstanding expressions of Man-law here today. Ace has struck a nerve. Sometimes its better to slap a hand than hold it, as in "Ask her out, already, you wuss."

107

"Don't be shocked if Rocker Chicks go after Rockers or Biker Chicks go after Bikers.  If you're not a Rocker or a Biker what the hell are you doing chasing them?"

 

I assert the right to share my physical gifts with all attractive women, regardless of the manner in which they have chosen to disappoint their fathers.

I suppose none of you have seen Peter O'Toole's Henry II in Becket?

108 "Bitches Ain't Shit"

109 No woman, with the possible exception of baldilocks, is cool enough to be your "friend" the way a man is. Some of them are almost that cool, but eventually they're going to ruin some awesome shit just by being chicks. You know this. If you have any female "friends" you're not fucking, you're one of those creepy pussy guys. Know yourself.

110 I've no problem being assertive with women and letting them know what I'm thinking.

That being said . . .

I know better than to ask out cute women on the train.  I see them clutch at their can of mace every time another guy gets on the train.  The only hope you have of getting someone on the train to take you seriously is if they find you seriously attractive at first glance.  Any other way and you risk getting a face full of pepper spray.

111

99% of the women that are pretty and seem hot aren't worth pursuing anyway

That's a bit harsh.

My interest in this is personal. My son is alot like Ace and bit like Allah.

He has a great sarcastic wit, well read, very intelligent, and cute, although he doesn't see himself that way and does not do anything to help his appearance.

He thinks most girls are either too skanky or too much trouble.

He's shy around women unless he's had a few drinks in him.  

I've never been shy. I can't imagine what that's like. But I wish he had a girlfriend.

Now you know why I come here. To understand...;-)

112 I know better than to ask out cute women on the train.  I see them clutch at their can of mace every time another guy gets on the train.  The only hope you have of getting someone on the train to take you seriously is if they find you seriously attractive at first glance.  Any other way and you risk getting a face full of pepper spray.

Depends.  Commuter Rail/Subway, or Amtrak?

113

^{Yep.  Actually Ace and Gabriel have seen me before--but not the goods.}

First admission that online "females" are just dudes dressing up in wigs, putting on bras, and slapping Malor on the ass.

Whatever floats your boat, AoSHQ Lifestyle and all...

114 No woman, with the possible exception of baldilocks, is cool enough to be your "friend" the way a man is.

Nah, I just talk the talk well.

First admission that online "females" are just dudes dressing up in wigs, putting on bras, and slapping Malor on the ass.

No wig--hence the name.  About Malor...shhh!

(BTW, EJS, there is a site with my real name on in and pictures.)

115

Fear. Rejection. Averages. Next!

Every man needs to be in commission sales at some point---however brief---in their careers, regardless of their ultimate path. I only started getting wimmins with any regularity and confidence after a few months of hawking muni bonds to centimillionaires. Before that: Pussy Boy.

And today? Wife has my nads.

116 "He thinks most girls are either too skanky or too much trouble."

Thing is, this is true.  If he meets a girl he really likes (i.e. doesn't think this of) but STILL doesn't/can't pursue her, then worry.

117 "Don't be shocked if Rocker Chicks go after Rockers or Biker Chicks go after Bikers. If you're not a Rocker or a Biker what the hell are you doing chasing them?"

Some rocker chicks do date outside of their species. I suppose I might qualify as such. If a guy doesn't mind the tattoos or the closet full of black clothes, then I say it's all fine. I would hate to think that an otherwise interested guy would pass me by because he thinks I only date guys who wear black leather jackets & band t-shirts.

118

He thinks most girls are either too skanky or too much trouble.

He's dead-on right. Girls are the biggest fucking waste of time, money, and emotion ever, or STD factories, or both. 

Of course, the alternative is to cut your balls off and wait for a magic comet like those Heaven's Gate dorks, and who the hell wants to do that.

But really, unless they're pussies who need emotional support, from a purely selfish perspective guys only need a girl for about ten minutes a few times a day.  The rest is all non-value-added bullshit.  I'm sure this is a big selling point for male homosexuality.

Me, I'm just trying to limit the amount of time and money I waste while secretly holding out for fembots.  The Singularity is near!

119

Some rocker chicks do date outside of their species. I suppose I might qualify as such. If a guy doesn't mind the tattoos or the closet full of black clothes, then I say it's all fine.

If there's ever a Jack-a-palooza, I hope Joanie is the only commenter who shows up.

 

 

120 Should I be scared?

121 Wow, over 120 comments on being/not being a pussy.
I'm going to Starbucks to get laid.
Watch me.

122 "Should I be scared?"

Not until you see a poem.

123

The Mike Damone Five Point Plan:

First of all Rat, you never let on how much you like a girl. "Oh, Debbie. Hi." Two, you always call the shots. "Kiss me. You won't regret it." Now three, act like wherever you are, that's the place to be. "Isn't this great?" Four, when ordering food, you find out what she wants, then order for the both of you. It's a classy move. "Now, the lady will have the linguini and white clam sauce, and a Coke with no ice." And five, now this is the most important, Rat. When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV.

Further explicated:

Mike Damone: I mean don't just walk in. You move across the room. And you don't talk to her. You use your face. You use your body. You use everything. That's what I do. I mean I just send out this vibe and I have personally found that women do respond. I mean, something happens.
Mark Ratner: Well, naturally something happens. I mean, you put the vibe out to 30 million chicks, something is gonna happen.
Mike Damone: That's the idea, Rat. That's the attitude.
Mark Ratner: The attitude?
Mike Damone: Yeah! The attitude dictates that you don't care whether she comes, stays, lays, or prays. I mean whatever happens, your toes are still tappin'. Now when you got that, then you have the attitude.

124 There is a reason so many black men date white women.
Black men have not been pussified.
This is a white man's problem, by and large.

125 1) A girl worth pursuing is, well, worth actually pursuing, not just hanging out with as a "buddy" in hopes that she'll screw you when drunk or emotionally vulnerable.

Well... er.... anybody want a few cases of really crappy white zinfandel with pretty labels?

126 I met my current girlfriend (of 2 years) while dressed up in a Che Guevara suit. I, literally, asked her what kind of fabric her pants were made of and asked her if I could touch them.

Drunk confidence can do wonders.

127 "When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV" It has been a long time but didn't Rat actually play Zeppelin II instead of IV?

128 Should I be scared?

Yes, dear Joanie, but only in that way that brings you so much pleasure.

129 No, he played Physical Graffiti or something.  I forget what Kashmir is on but it's a later album and it's definitely not Zep IV.

130 TBS Version of Damone:

"It doesn't matter if she hops, shops, pops or drops!"

So gay.

131 "Yes, dear Joanie, but only in that way that brings you so much pleasure."

Sounds just like the circus!

132 Don't worry, Joanie.  Jack M. doesn't do his Jame Gumb dance until at least the third hour of the first date.

133 Sounds just like the circus!

Well, there will be organs grinding.....

What?

134 Oh, yeah, almost forgot -- gratuitous Thora Birch.

135 Chicks want cock, money and drama, not always in that order.  Women want men they can fuck with.  Men they can drive crazy, wrap around their fingers, play games with, make jealous, make victims to their girl logic.  If the guy doesn't play along with that, there's no "fun" there.

Dave, seriously, you have to tell us what train hit you! Yikes

136 Dave, seriously, you have to tell us what train hit you! Yikes

Oh, I don't know.  The pancakes analogy was pretty good.

137 Is it unrequited if you're in a relationship with a woman, no sex yet, but she hasn't told her husband so there's still hope...?

138

"Bottom line: guys, women ain't worth it. Believe me, they aren't sitting around pining for *you*, you fucking breast."

 

Unless you've got an ass like a thoroughbred and the soulful eyes of a jazz pianist.  Which I do. 

 

When I don't approach or whatever, it's not because I'm scared of rejection.  I've often said that one of the most important lessons I learned early in life was that getting punched doesn't hurt that much.  It hurts slightly more when a woman rejects you, but only if you give a shit.

 

The problem is that I like pining.  The best part of a relationship is that moment before the first kiss, when you don't know if you're going to do it or how she's going to react or what it's going to be like.  I like the potential there, the angst and anxiety, the mystery.  So ladies, the reason I'm not approaching you isn't because I'm a pussy, it's because I want to continue our relationship in its best possible form for as long as possible.

 

You're welcome.

139 "Well, there will be organs grinding.....'

Sounds like a cue for a CALLIOPEnis joke.

140 You sure it was Kashmir, which is on Physical Graffiti.  I may need to find that clip.  I really thought he was playing II and can not believe I would not remember Kashmir, Zeppelin's 2nd best song of all time.

141

The best advice is this:

 

If it Flies, F*cks, or floats; Rent it!

142

I eventually came to the point where I decided that being the arrogant pushy jerk that would get me laid in bars and such was worse for my self image than not getting laid in bars.

So I choose nice guy (pussy) over gettin any.  And believe me, I don't often get any. And I sometimes come off like a pussy.  Hell, I hang out in a moron blog most nights. 

But I do have a wonderful 20 year old daughter from a short marriage and she has a very decent guy. So, I got that going for me...   

143

"(BTW, EJS, there is a site with my real name on in and pictures.)"

Posted by: baldilocks

Are you the one who looks like Lincoln or Eleanor Roosevelt?

144 Why am I full of it? I have observed that women naturally gravitate towards the most hyper-masculine men available. Shrug. That's the way it is. Allah's got the link on his site on half of British births are illegitimate. The 2006 Census has 90% of Urban Black births illegitimate, and nation-wide 70%. Other Demo segments have illegitimate births up also, suggesting it's society-wide.

Stats (you know, numbers) are on my side.

Look at how Rappers react. Women wonder why rappers call them bitches and hos. Yet it's common for women in urban black centers to have 3 kids with three different fathers. Men compete to be the hardest hard-men because that is what is rewarded. Darwinian sexual/natural selection at work. Even hard-men will lose when only the most testosterone-driven are winners.

I know plenty of nice, attractive, well-educated women without tattoos that fall all over themselves for: musicians, motorcycle racers, etc. that engage in high-risk, glamorous occupations that draw women in. Shrug. It's the testosterone.

Look at the VT shootings. I was shocked that so many young men did not act "traditionally" i.e. tackle-kill the bad guy, be the hero, get the/a girl. To me that screams a massive shift in how women select men and how men in turn respond. Shrug.

I am not concerned with individuals, but rather society-wide implications. A whole bunch of un-connected to women men, floating around, is not my idea of a stable society.

Rightwingsparkle: I have observed that men who have confidence around women matured physically early, had good physiques, and engaged in activities that gave them status in High School. Looking like men around boys.

My suggestion would be that your son needs an activity that will give him status/desireability among women. It could be dirt bike racing, or triathalon, or rock musicianship even if the band sucks. Drop the info casually in social settings "Oh I have training for the triathalon tomorrow. Got to ready for the _____ Invitational." Or whatever. Watch women climb all over him, regardless of dress/haircut/whatever.

What girls his age don't care about: grooming, dress, well-read, wit, sense of humor. What girls his age care about: confidence (based on past success), other women wanting him (this is huge -- I've seen women climb over each other to pull a guy away from each other), high-testosterone activities.

Given that social demands for work and school require massive dialing down of aggressiveness and no interest shown in women by men/boys, it's not surprising your son is shy. Because what works at school and the workplace is a disaster for dating women. Your son like most men/boys has an entire lifetime of learned behavior to unlearn.

145

PHenry:

I decided that being the arrogant pushy jerk that would get me laid in bars and such was worse for my self image than not getting laid in bars.

With all due respect, I think you're missing the point.  Women don't react positively to the guy being an asshole.  They react to confidence.  Assholes often get women because they appear confident.  It's correlation, not causation. 

You don't need to be an asshole to get women.  You need to stop caring so much whether this particular girl says yes.  If you're relaxed and having fun, she'll be relaxed and have fun.  If you're nervous and edgy, she'll be nervous and edgy.

Don't think you need to be something you're not.  Unless you're steve_in_hb.  That guy needs to fake it.

146 Sounds like a cue for a CALLIOPEnis joke.

And an invitation for you to pet my monkey.....

To hell with Suzanne Sena...I'm all about the Joanster now.

147

Jim,

I agree with your generalizations up to a point. If it's about getting laid, then being a "pussy" is a death sentence. There are women, however, who aren't all wrapped up in the hyper-testosterone thing. I was lucky enough to find one. Since I was saving myself for marriage, getting laid was not an option I had available. Instead, I had the opportunity to find someone to connect with on a deeper level. She had no time for the "bad boys", but wanted someone to appreciate her and take care of her, and for some reason she chose me. We were friends first, and moved on to more later. We've been married for almost 15 years now, and it gets better all the time.

I do agree, though, that if your expectation is sex, the women who are out for it aren't looking for "pussies". But I have no sympathy for them when I hear them complain about guys either, becuase they haven't shown very much wisdom in the first place.

148

Wait, JackM just callously dumped me when someone better came along?  ...  Suddenly, I find him so ... attractive.

We're just a few jokes about my fat ankles away from a drunken hookup in the back booth of a DC bar.

149 (BTW, EJS, there is a site with my real name on in and pictures.)"

Posted by: baldilocks

Are you the one who looks like Lincoln or Eleanor Roosevelt?

If there are a couple of black chicks with short hair who go by those names, then yes.  (Click my name, genius.)

150

comish, I don't think its assholes that attracts women, it is confidence, like you say.  I used the word arrogant, that is the same as confident, at least on the superficial level that would be involved with a first date request. 

151

Baldilocks,

I was referring to the Flickr photos linked from your homepage. I did see the first one!

152 oh...:::snort:::

153 As much as I hate to repeat myself, but does it strike anyone else as odd that Tom, who is so ready and willing to drop his stupid shit in every single thread, has not made even a single comment in a thread discussing the best way to meet or pick up women?

Maybe Ace should have a thread about how to pick up men.  I'm sure Tom would be all over that one.

154

This is why I'm glad to be a balding greybeard with 5 kids, 4 steps, 8? (hmm, can't remember) grands and separated. I'll take this one for the team.

If there is one thing Boomer A's and B's did to mess up the Gen X'ers and later, it is this. I have seen the deterioration with my own eyes as my generation rejected the wisdom of our forebears, which is even more important now with new STD's and the loss of nearby extended families. (And maybe arranged marriages at 12 to 14 to boot? )

I've been around the block enough to know that they were right; and I've always had more female friends than male ones. My female friends were always those who were never in the marriage league, which is a pre-requisite in my mind for contemplating sexual activity. IOW I don't want to bust a nut with my female friends...it's not worth it. My male ones were always ones who could give and take an argument without pulling sticks, knives or guns.

Oh yeah, I was the pimply faced coke bottle glasses guy who graduated the youngest in my class, but never lacked female attention once in college (I had some money, a car, a job, and a brain: something smart women liked back then when the income potential word got around).

 If a guy has bad acne, he has a high testosterone level or receptor sensitivity, something that was not generally known in the "Do your own thing 60's and 70's; but it is something women can sense (smell, usually). Sometimes geeks and nerds rule just like the jocks sometime rule. Pick your battle carefully guys.

155 John F N Kerry -- I would agree. My concern is different from Ace's. Not individuals as such but broader trends. IMHO we are seeing defacto polygamy. Many women "sharing" the high testosterone guys, not because they want to but because they will unless constrained. Which leads to instability because there are all those loser guys with no women to domesticate them or have them "invested" in society through children.

There will always be individual women who figure out pretty early the downsides of high testosterone men, the transience of beauty, and the low ability of beauty/attractiveness to control men. One of the big mistakes beautiful women make is over-estimating their ability to change male behavior.

But confidence really only comes from past success. If you past is not success, in golf, women, or say motorcyle racing, you're not likely to project confidence. Early maturers among men have a massive advantage due to confidence. Particularly since all the things needed to be successful in work are disasters with women (broadly). Cooperativeness, blending in, teamwork, etc? Disasters.

156 Thanks for the advice, guys. I've been having a little trouble with the ladies lately, and I think I just might put a little of your advice to work. I mean, just last week I was thinking, "gee, it has been at least 10, 12 days since my last threesome." And I can't even remember how many days it has been since my last redhead with green eyes. It sure is tough out there for us nice guys.

157 Hank, friends call you on your shit. If you're stupid enough, out come the aforementioned sticks, knives and guns.     Best to be busted up by friends.    

158 Yeah, I'm currently 2 people short of a threesome myself.

159

"Yeah, I'm currently 2 people short of a threesome myself."

 

Oh, sorry guys - I just spoke with Randy Moss and he brought up the good point that during the past 12 days or so I have only been driving my two seater cars - switching between the Porsche Turbo and Ferrari. Therefore, I can only fit one woman in the car with me at a time, which makes it really hard to get both women to my house in order to have a threesome.

Maybe some of you guys have been making the same mistake?

Tomorrow the Escalade.

160

Ace,

Clean it up a bit and I would love have my fifteen year old read it!

161 There is a reason so many black men date white women.
Black men have not been pussified.
This is a white man's problem, by and large.

Posted by: Nom de Blog

OK, we could reflexively trash this observation as "racist." On the other hand, we could use it as a springboard discuss the role of culture in the "nice guy" problem.

Most black males in America are raised permissively, in the sense that they are allowed to just hang out with their buddies in the neighborhood. The unfettered adventure of roaming the neighborhood with a pack of one's peers tends to instill a certain confidence.

As a result of suburbanization and other social trends, however, middle-class white males are more likely to be raised in a structured, supervised, restrictive manner. In your typical suburban cul-de-sac neighborhood, you have like 1.6 children per household -- not an environment conducive to "hanging with your homies." 

And the suburban mother is ever-so-fearful that her precious darling child will be kidnapped, so he's not even allowed to play in the front yard. He is thus socially isolated and, as a result, never has the experience of unsupervised group adventure necessary to forming the kind of strong masculine confidence which women naturally find attractive.

Also, the middle-class suburban white boy is raised with the idea that he absolutely must (repeat, must) get a college diploma and a suit-and-tie office job. That is to say, the suburban white boy is raised to be respectable in terms understood and accepted by the authority figures in his environment. Standing around groping his own crotch while talking a line of completely bogus shit to every female he meets -- this isn't going to help him get that National Merit Scholarship.

So suburban white boys do better in terms of National Merit Scholarships. Black dudes get jiggy with more bitches.

 It's culture, like I said.

 

Some people might argue that the real difference is that black dudes have bigger dicks. But that would be racist.

162

"Ace,

Clean it up a bit and I would love have my fifteen year old read it!"

 

Something else I noticed that might help a fifteen year old with girls. Tell him to become a professional football player. That seemed to help me a little bit.

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