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| What The Hell Is It About The Media? Philly Sportswriter Praises Hitler's Efficiency In Killing Off Political Dissenters In A Ludicrous Attack on BloggersThe only positive thing I can think of about Hitler’s time on earth–I’m sure he would have eliminated all bloggers. In Colonial times, bloggers were called “Pamphleteers.” They hung on street corners handing them out to passersby. Now, they hang out on electronic street corners, hoping somebody mouses on to their pretentious sites. Different medium, same MO. Shakespeare accidentally summed up the genre best with these words from a MacBeth soliloquy: “. . .a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. . .”That's a quote from a Philadelphia sportswriter responding to a baseball blogger who, fairly politely and rationally I think, wrote him an email telling him that his pick for MVP was wrong. The blogger based his conclusion on Sabermetric stats (Sabermetrics are just a non-traditional way of analyzing stats which seem to be far more indicative of actual performance than traditional baseball stats; they're being used more and more by clubs to make personnel decisions) and told the sportswriter his choice was second-best. Not exactly the sort of discussion you would think would call for praise of Hitler in response, but that's what happened. Know what, pal? Bash this. . .Tell your bloggers, my career against theirs. . .Unable to argue against the blogger's conclusions, and also unable to say something mundane like "Well, obviously the two men are pretty closely ranked in statistics, whichever way you cut it; I just think Rollins was more deserving," the guy, as is so typical, makes his stand on the fact that he is, in fact, In The Media and therefore right. The Media has deemed him worthy; ergo he is worthy. The Media is always right in their evaluations; that's why they're The Deciders, after all. He also mentions his multiple layers of editorial oversight, as if that matters in this argument, when facts and stats are not in dispute. Let me offer my own Hitler analogy. Hitler appealed most of all to the "insecure class," those who had a little something of a life going but not so much of one they didn't fear losing what they had. They were somewhat comfortable economically and socially, but not comfortable in retaining that position. So Hitler offered them a narrative and an enemy and convinced them that under his plan, they wouldn't have to worry -- their identity as true-blooded Germans would be enough to sustain them in the position they feared losing. It seems the media offers its lesser lights a similar reassurance. Join the party, chant the slogans, hate the chosen enemies of the party, and the party will take care of you. You need not fear the grasping lower classes and interloping foreign-types who want to take what you have away from you. It's always the weakest, least members of a group that are the most passionate about their membership in the group. The group gives them what they do not have of their own merits: a somewhat undeserved sense of personal value. Just saying, since Hitler was brought up and all. Thanks to AndrewS. More... A reader writes in to say this guy is a total dick: Clarification/Correction: I misread this email; most comes from a reader, but the part at the end -- about Conlin attempting to get a guy fired from work -- came not from him directly but from a fellow poster on a Phillies chat forum. I trust my reader but not this other guy's claim (well, I do, but...) so I'll delete that part and keep it just to what DaveR. tells me. Apologies for clogging up your inbox, but I can't comment on your site from work. I live in Philly, so let me tell you something about Bill Conlin. In addition to reading his columns for years, I've had several exchanges with him over email to discuss various Phillies-related points and . During one of our email exchanges, I had the audacity to suggest that Doug Glanville actually sucked during his time as a Phillie and wasn't one of the best leadoff hitters we ever had, as Big Bill was trying to tell me. What followed were words my friends and I still quote to this day when we argue baseball....That's from a reader whose name I'll withhold until he gives me the okay. There's something the water they're drinking. And I think that something is Kool-Aid. As far as disciplining him... Well, the guy praised Hitler's wondrous efficiency at killing political dissenters. I'm not big on firing people for an ill-advised remark, but isn't it usually a rule you're not allowed to praise Hitler? Especially when you're praising him specifically for killing dissenters? That's not a full-blown endorsement of the Holocaust, but it is edging right up to that line. I mean, Good God, the "pamphleteers" Conlin is so jazzed about Hitler executing were propagandizing against Hitler. And Conlin's all in favor of that. I'm sure he'd say it was a joke and perhaps it was. But a lot of jokes are out of bounds, especially according to the multiple-layers-of-editorial-oversight media he's so keen about. Comments1
The sportswriter has to be a lefty. Who else routinely brings up Hitler these days? Posted by: aoshq janitorial & escort service at November 27, 2007 12:39 PM (FSjp1) 2
I love it when people pull a Godwin's Law.
Posted by: Kaitain at November 27, 2007 12:39 PM (S5mm4) 3
Easy Janitor. Democrats.
Posted by: Kaitain at November 27, 2007 12:39 PM (S5mm4) 4
Easy Janitor. Democrats. It's been a long long time since I've met a democrat that wasn't a lefty moonbat. Posted by: aoshq janitorial & escort service at November 27, 2007 12:42 PM (FSjp1) 5
you know, this guy's article strikes me as borderline inappropriate.
Posted by: joeindc44 at November 27, 2007 12:47 PM (NXelq) 6
That's right Ace! You bloggers are nothing more than those no-count pamphleteers of colonial times! You are no better than wannabes like Thomas Paine, Ben Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison etc., and you'll have no more impact on history than they did! You bunch of losers!!!
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at November 27, 2007 12:53 PM (KeOQp) Posted by: Rocketeer at November 27, 2007 12:53 PM (GFaLW) 8
What. A. Dick.
I can sort of understand a political reporter being all self-important when challenged by a blogger, but a fucking sportswriter? It's a game, nitwit. Despite the money and big business involved, it's still a game. Brings to mind the old Kissinger observation about academic politics, "Passions run highest when the stakes are lowest". Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 27, 2007 12:54 PM (Ds4I5) 9
When I first stepped on the scene, niggaz was petrified Posted by: steve_in_hb at November 27, 2007 12:59 PM (7FHPf) 10
Holliday obviously deserved the MVP and got screwed by geography. It happens often, the west coast guys aren't taken as seriously as the east coast guys just due to exposure and the "we're better than them" mentality of the east coast. This guy knows that's why he voted for Rollins but can't say that, so he brings up Hitler. He's obviously a very deep thinker. /sarcasm off Posted by: Judd at November 27, 2007 01:00 PM (JB0d8) 11
Here's the order in which the moonbats self-identify: 1. Proud BSD-sufferer 2. Democrat 3. Guilt-wracked Liberal 4. Armchair Eco-warrior/scientist 5. American (if required to crap on America in media) 6. "Life-long Republican" (if required to crap on Republicans in media) Their little lives are, shall we say... "complex". Posted by: sherlock at November 27, 2007 01:00 PM (fKPuo) 12
Wasn't Thomas Paine a pamphleteer? I'm a moron but I think he was fairly instrumental to our Independence.
Posted by: Jason at November 27, 2007 01:03 PM (yIEot) 13
Wasn't Thomas Paine a pamphleteer? I'm a moron but I think he was fairly instrumental to our Independence.
That's what I was thinking. This doofus does know that during the Revolution, pamphleteers were generally the good guys, right? Posted by: Slublog at November 27, 2007 01:05 PM (R8+nJ) 14
Oh, scratch that. Of course he doesn't know. He's a sportswriter.
Posted by: Slublog at November 27, 2007 01:06 PM (R8+nJ) 15
From the US Post Office Press release announcing the Colonial Pamphleteers Honorary Stamp:
"Many historical figures numbered among the colonial pamphleteers of the day and included Benjamin Franklin, Samuel Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton and John Adams." Bunch of friggin losers! Posted by: Kasper Hauser at November 27, 2007 01:06 PM (KeOQp) 16
Personally I love to see the media deride bloggers and such as pamphleteers. I love to see them finally disassociate themselves with what they don't deserve any association to. A bunch of pamphleteers built this country, and THAT, not the MSM, is what the free press was all about, what IS truly neccessary for democracy, etc. etc. Posted by: Entropy at November 27, 2007 01:10 PM (m6c4H) 17
As a regular reader of Conlin, I must say that I'm taken aback by his responses. I enjoy most of his columns, he's the grumpy old grand-dad who reminisces about the old days, and he's been around Philly forever. He does drop lots of WWII references into his stories (not pro-Hitler) , which seems to bother a lot of apolitical sports fans. While I wouldn't say that he's a conservative, I don't think that he's a loopy moonbat either, certainly not along the lines of Mike Lupica.
It does seem, however, that he suffers from BDS (Blog derangement syndrome), which is an epidemic in the bizarro world of the MSM.
Posted by: Dr. Remulak at November 27, 2007 01:13 PM (YmPwQ) 18
Don't take that writer seriously. Bill Conlin is the corpulent, arrogant old Philadelphia homer who used to be a regular on The Sports Reporters on ESPN several years ago (I had assumed he had died of a pastrami-induced heart attack -- good to hear he is still breathing, although he seems a bit demented now).
Like most media drones, Conlin thinks he's the last word -- after all, he's been in the business for a thousand years! and he has editors! editors who he claims suck! but doesn't that undermine his point?! no matter! I'm Bill Conlin! -- and there's absolutely no way in hell he'll ever entertain the notion from some mere mortal that he should justify voting for his home-team's Jimmy Rollins for MVP. Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at November 27, 2007 01:24 PM (cChLd) 19
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Posted by: tommy at November 27, 2007 01:24 PM (G+fLm) 20
It's always the weakest, least members of a group that are the most passionate about their membership in the group. Remember in junior high that butt-ugly mean guy who, nonetheless, managed to get laid with a girl in the same school and everyone heard about it? That got him admitted into the "Guys Who Had" club, and he spent most of his time rubbing it in to all the "Guys Who Hadn't." Wasn't me, of course. Just sayin'. Posted by: Rittenhouse at November 27, 2007 01:25 PM (zS9LP) Posted by: Judd at November 27, 2007 01:32 PM (JB0d8) 22
Ehhhhh... One of my cobloggers seems to have removed the vowels from tommy's screed.
That's a liberal thing. They love doing that, they think it's cute. I'm not big on it. Besides, I like when liberals defend Hitler. He's self-discrediting. Posted by: ace at November 27, 2007 01:33 PM (1UCRY) 23
Pamphleteers were vital to the abolitionist movement. Anyone who doesn't like pamphlets hates black people and loves slavery.
Posted by: Phelps at November 27, 2007 01:34 PM (hbxaG) 24
So Hitler squashing the free press is a positive thing? We all know how that turned out? I'm sure all the big press German sports writers were praising Jesse Owens' humiliation of the Aryan race in the '32 Olympics. Or maybe they were saying that the Aryan runners were superior because of all the track meets the sports writers went to. And this from a man whose livelihood comes from the consitutional protection of a free press? Posted by: Ken at November 27, 2007 01:41 PM (vgyJ5) Posted by: Muslihoon at November 27, 2007 01:41 PM (LR1ZU) Posted by: tommy at November 27, 2007 01:51 PM (G+fLm) 27
Personally, I'd rather be on Hitler's enemy list than on his friends list.
Posted by: Doug at November 27, 2007 01:52 PM (AElTw) 28
More makeshitup. Get a load of that - "makeshitup." That word is bigblowing my mindspace. Guys, I think we'd better ask "Tommy" if he can finally come clean with Foer about all the makeshitup in his killbloodmemoirs. Posted by: Rocketeer at November 27, 2007 02:01 PM (GFaLW) 29
The biggest Dicks seem to be all be compensating for having the littlest dicks......
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at November 27, 2007 02:06 PM (KeOQp) 30
It's always the weakest, least members of a group that are the most passionate about their membership in the group. This is absolutely true. Every racist or other supremist sack of shit I have ever run into were themselves the best example AGAINST the premise of their race/politics/identidy's superiority. ALWAYS. This means you, Noam Chomski, you retarded fuck. And, yes, I used 'their' as a third person indefinite pronoun, you pedantic assface. Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at November 27, 2007 02:09 PM (MJbn9) 31
Personally, I'd rather be on Hitler's enemy list than on his friends list
Well, sure,,,now!. But back in '39' in Dresden, being one of Adolph's home boys would get you in to all the fancy soirees! And the Poontang? Man....good times.... Posted by: Kasper Hauser at November 27, 2007 02:11 PM (KeOQp) 32
Conlin is or was on that ESPN Sunday morning circle jerk with Mitch Albom and a couple of other douche bags. He's a freakin blowhard. Always getting in the last word; and its usually a big word. Never liked him. Picks the eagles every damn week too. No matter how bad they suck.
Posted by: RobG at November 27, 2007 02:24 PM (6Oq7N) 33
150+ IQ? I'm sorry, but we're gonna need to see some documentation of that outlandish boast.
This guy makes the mistake of thinking that just because he's smart -- at least according to him -- he knows everything. Most really smart people know better than that. As to the Hitler comment, the obvious question is: why hasn't this guy been fired yet? For almost anyone else -- particularly a conservative politician, sports figure or entertainer -- their career would already be over by now. Posted by: jblog at November 27, 2007 02:35 PM (L/wan) 34
I like balls.
Posted by: tommy at November 27, 2007 02:37 PM (1UCRY) 35
Comparing a person or group to Hitler is grounds for ridicule, not firing.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at November 27, 2007 02:37 PM (s8O+4) 36
34 I like balls.
No doubt that's because of all them that have swung into your chin over the years. Posted by: Fentriss at November 27, 2007 02:46 PM (JVu0S) 37
Conlin injects BDS comments into his sports column Ive seen it Hes a full blown lefty dickhead. Journalism is the last refuge of a raving liberal nutbag
Posted by: TMF at November 27, 2007 02:49 PM (KTgUG) 38
Ehhhhh... One of my cobloggers seems to have removed the vowels from tommy's screed.
That's a liberal thing. They love doing that, they think it's cute. I'm not big on it. However, replying to work emails without using vowels is often hilarious. Especially when you do it to the dimwit hot chicks who think they're all that. What about removing consonants? Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 27, 2007 03:03 PM (Ds4I5) 39
Seems to me that over the past 20 years or so sports columnists have
drifted further and further from actually writing about sports. I
understand that writing a column is in some ways all about expressing
opinions, but way too many of the (currently very few) 'sports writers'
I see in print seem to be going for 'controversial' rather than
'informational.' If they're not in somebody's face, they aren't
happy. We've got a couple in Detroit that I read
occasionally and see on tv once in a while.
Reporting is no longer important, I suppose. It just one or another ignoramus who somehow managed to get the the 'top' of his profession shouting inanities at the public and his colleagues. I have basically quit reading sports columns and listening to or watching sports programs due the the low level of information compared to the high level of 'opinion.' Posted by: JorgXMcKie at November 27, 2007 03:05 PM (nMT31) 40
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Yeah, I'm gonna call bullshit on the 150 IQ claim too. I find that most people that claim numbers like that don't know how IQ is measured and think, well I'm at least 50% smarter than average so I must have an IQ of 150! Less than 0.1% of the population scores above 150 on IQ tests, and I seriously doubt many of them are employed as sports writers. Hell, even at 130 or so you are talking around 2% of the populations. Posted by: Ryan Frank at November 27, 2007 03:17 PM (KYS7R) 42
#26 tommy wrote, "That's funny? Liberals like to do it? More makeshitup. We'll call that exhibit C." Disemvowelling: Invented by Teresa Nielsen Hayden, editor of Making Light." Searching the home page for "Bush" shows plenty of BDS. Posted by: Looking Glass at November 27, 2007 03:23 PM (p3bw6) 43
My immediate thought was... what is wrong with pamphleteers that we want them shot? i mean sure, some are idiots, but then again there was Thomas Paine. You can't throw out the bathwater without throwing out that baby. You would think a newspaper man would BELIEVE in freedom of speech. Posted by: A.W. at November 27, 2007 03:24 PM (vwIci) 44
I can make out about half of it, but only half of it.
yet, strangely enough, it loses none of the intellectual strength or coherence of the original comment! Posted by: wiserbud at November 27, 2007 03:28 PM (IHbof) 45
The best way to make a moonbat's comments useful is to remove all the vowels, consonants, and punctuation. What's left is a pretty good summary of their insights on most subjects.
Posted by: sherlock at November 27, 2007 03:29 PM (ojW85) 46
I'd bet he did one of those online 'IQ tests' and got 150. My retarded cat can get a 120 on those, so I'm not impressed. On a seperate note, I'm not so much pissed off about the Annapolis conference because it's a complete waste of time and money, or that it will accomplish less than a fart in a hurricane. This is all, of course, true but not the most annoying part. What annoys me most about it is that they are fucking with Beat Army Week. The bastards. I'd like to see all of the attendees stagger out of that meeting stripped nekkid, painted blue and gold, and with obscene messages to the mudbug Army pukes tattooed to their foreheads. That would be fun. And THAT is how to mix sports and politics. Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at November 27, 2007 03:32 PM (MJbn9) 47
When it's their turn to be written about, media honchos believe that turnabout is NOT fair play. by Catherine Seipp. "No one is more thin-skinned than the media. No one." and "Members of the press are usually also deeply committed members of the can-dish-it-out-but-can't-take-it club. " Posted by: Looking Glass at November 27, 2007 03:34 PM (p3bw6) 48
I watch Hayes and Conlin most days on Philadelphia's local sports show Daily News Live, and both are in their own ways the most obnoxious of the regular contributors. Hayes is a derisive half-smart sophomoric and Conlin takes perverse pride in his oldness (in every sense of the word as it can apply to a person). Having witnessed every irrelevant sporting event in the last six decades in Philadelphia gives Conlin delusions of context that are entertaining, if not particularly enlightening.
I wouldn't put too much into the politics of it. Philadelphia is one of about 5 or 6 metropolitan areas in the country whose traditional passion for sports makes our second rate back-page funnymen pretty much secluded from the crushing reality of the media situation in the rest of the universe. I'm sure when Hayes is as old as Conlin is now, they might notice that there hasn't been many positive developments in their division, but not before. On the other hand, it sure it fun to watching the blogosphere collide with insular Philly sports columnists. I wish it happened more often. Posted by: HitNRun at November 27, 2007 03:38 PM (Ala77) 49
Wow, a member of the Press exhorting the same beliefs as Hitler. No surprise there, inspite of the fact they supposed worship FREE SPEECH.
By the way, Tom Brokaw, call the civility office ... wait, never mind, that wasn't Rush Limbaugh. Posted by: Dusty at November 27, 2007 03:49 PM (1Lzs1) 50
I'm not exactly a big sports fan at all, but I miss Jim Murray.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 27, 2007 03:49 PM (Ds4I5) 51
It's amazing that someone would consider the modern day equivalent of pampleteers to be a bad thing. You have to be either historically ignorant or just opposed to the concept of free speech that helped form and build the USA.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 27, 2007 03:56 PM (hfyfI) 52
Wow, Mr. Conlin can quote Macbeth lamenting the death of his wicked wife. Imagine how powerful such a riposte might be if he understood it in the context it was made. Allow me to offer the words uttered by Macbeth just before these for Mr. Conlin's sake: ... a poor player Posted by: charles austin at November 27, 2007 03:57 PM (c3IoD) 53
You gotta find the humor in that post. Aside from kind of shilling for hitler's information control, home boy, living and writing in Philadelphia, the home of the liberty bell, Independence Hall, Benjamin Franklin, some of the most pervasive pamphlateers for liberty, had all the printing presses smashed during British occupation, a number of the owners and writers sent to horrific prison galleys in the bay, etc, etc, etc....
I think you could call the guy ETD - Extra-ordinarily Tone Deaf. Please, please, please call me a pamphlateer. The best insult/compliment you can get. Posted by: kat-missouri at November 27, 2007 04:18 PM (io+Si) 54
And spell his name "MacBeth" into the bargain, as if he were the product of a bank merger. All this just two sentences after calling bloggers "pretentious".
Posted by: Paul Zrimsek at November 27, 2007 04:21 PM (0sVlQ) 55
Besides, I thought we were talking about NL teams here. They don't have a designated Hitler.
Posted by: Paul Zrimsek at November 27, 2007 04:27 PM (0sVlQ) 56
Hasn't tommy heard of the old adage, "Don't shit in somebody else's pool"? Posted by: steveegg at November 27, 2007 04:28 PM (LvEFt) 57
Another testament to what a dick this guy is: he was the only sportswriter who didn't vote for Nolan Ryan on the first ballot for the Hall of Fame.
Posted by: TF6S at November 27, 2007 04:41 PM (ll107) 58
TF6S at November 27, 2007 04:41 PM
Interesting. I wonder how often its been that all the other sportswriters got it wrong in the time that Conlin has been voting? Posted by: Dusty at November 27, 2007 04:50 PM (GJLeQ) 59
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He also mentions his multiple layers of editorial oversight, as if that matters in this argument</i>
Don't ever let that line fool you. My multiple layers of editorial oversight in my Council Bluffs newspaper days meant multiple layers of agenda setting, making sure I really got the publisher's perspective on the proposed change in the city sign ordinance and such. "Go out and find a majority of people opposing the new ordinance for this week's street beat assignment." Editors fact-checking? Spell-checking? Whatever! Posted by: redherkey at November 27, 2007 05:07 PM (kjqFg) 60
More support for my thesis that today's "liberals" are the New Tories.
Posted by: Bilwick at November 27, 2007 05:10 PM (nFJC+) 61
Of course he's a dick. He's a <i>sports writer</i>. It's a requirement for the job.
Posted by: mojo at November 27, 2007 05:30 PM (g1cNf) 62
Of course he's a dick. He's a <i>sports writer</i>. It's a requirement for the job.
Have you been reading TJ Simers? Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 27, 2007 05:32 PM (Ds4I5) 63
The larger story? There are dozens of Bill Conlins across the country -- that age group, that "everyman" sanctimony, that contempt for amateurs who get it right without trying hard.
...That sense of impending, professional mass-extinction. Posted by: Cover Me, Porkins at November 27, 2007 05:32 PM (LL0/Z) 64
#63 Cover Me, Porkins wrote, "The larger story? There are dozens of Bill Conlins across the country -- that age group, that "everyman" sanctimony, that contempt for amateurs who get it right without trying hard....That sense of impending, professional mass-extinction." Newspapers as an endangered species. “44,000 news-industry employees lost their jobs in the past five years,…200 papers closed in the past 25 years.” Posted by: Looking Glass at November 27, 2007 05:58 PM (p3bw6) 65
Dont forget democrats HAVE to dream up ways to defend the undefendable cos he was a SOCIALIST as in national socialists = Nazi, and as liberals everywhere have whored their honour and embraced socialism, we see Adolf getting some kinder press (besides he looks better in hindsight than Stalin !!)
Posted by: chris edwards at November 27, 2007 06:06 PM (r5yFC) 66
"And spell his name "MacBeth" into the bargain, as if he were the product of a bank merger. All this just two sentences after calling bloggers "pretentious"."
It's a nitpick, but that's technically correct. MacBeth, or McDonald, just like you wouldn't write O'Leary as Oleary.
Posted by: Henry at November 27, 2007 06:07 PM (0N5lK) 67
Philly newspapers are all just pabulum-puking liberal rubbish anyway... Better to let this purulent swine blather and just ignore him IMHO..
Posted by: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater at November 27, 2007 06:23 PM (pSfMO) 68
he was the only sportswriter who didn't vote for Nolan Ryan on the first ballot for the Hall of Fame.
The hall of fame system basically sucks right now, and that's exhibit A of why. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 27, 2007 08:45 PM (hfyfI) 69
My understanding is that bloggers are, basically, Jews, homosexuals, gypsies, criminals, law professors, or untermenchen of one stripe or another. So Conlin's point about Hitler is somewhat redundant. - Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 27, 2007 09:23 PM (UeP9e) 70
Does this mean sportswriters want to invade Poland?
Posted by: eman at November 27, 2007 09:46 PM (NPwKI) 71
The thing I really liked about Hitler was he was so good at killing off journalists.
Oh, wait, that was just a joke. But, you know, I have a high powered rifle and Conlin's address is in the phone book. Wow, another joke! I'm totally on a roll tonight. Really, I have a bunch of Molotov Cocktails ready to go, anyone know where to find a fascist narcissistic newspaper columnist? Hey, another joke! Thanks, I'm here all week, don't forget to tip your waitress... Posted by: Bombast at November 27, 2007 10:29 PM (is9WV) 72
This blowhard was inadvertently telling with his pamphleteers crack. The guy personifies the Old Media's rearguard action against New Media.
Posted by: Tommy Shanks at November 28, 2007 12:09 AM (S6pFk) 73
I'd bet he did one of those online 'IQ tests' and got 150. My retarded cat can get a 120 on those, so I'm not impressed.
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