AP is Glad Impeachment Debate Derailed

This story is surprisingly refreshing. It may be the fact that this AP writer is as relieved as congressional Democrats that they won't have to register votes on impeaching Vice President Cheney.

House Democrats on Tuesday narrowly managed to avert a bruising debate on a proposal to impeach Dick Cheney after Republicans, in a surprise maneuver, voted in favor of taking up the measure [which Democrat Dennis Kucinich introduced with privileged status so as to avoid Democratic attempts to block it].

The article doesn't go into why it would have been a "bruising debate" for Democrats. Here are a few reasons off the top of my head:

(1) Impeaching a sitting Vice President is not all that popular with the public.

(2) Impeachment is pretty popular with the Lefty fringe which has been driving the party for the last few years. However, it's likely poison for moderates that Democrats would like to attract in the general.

(3) Congress is already sitting at super-low approval rates, in part, because it's gotten no work done.

(4) The premise of the impeachment relies on losing the Iraq War; Democrats appear to have missed their opportunity (knock on wood).

(5) Related to (4), this would make foreign policy the dominant issue for the 2008 elections, as it was in 2004 and 2006. Democrats have examined public sentiment and found that things look more like 2004 than they do 2006.

What else am I missing?

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 10:12 PM

Comments

1 They would have to listen more to that little squid. ET anal probing sounds decent compared to that.

Posted by: mbruce at November 06, 2007 10:17 PM (LLCm9)

Fuckin' Cheney

If it werent for that guy, we'd probably have blown off a nuke in Manhattan by now

Posted by: The Terrorists at November 06, 2007 10:20 PM (+Ac3z)

What else am I missing?

{sitting in corner, smoking a cig, glowering as only a cock can glower}

Posted by: Dick Cheney's Cock at November 06, 2007 10:26 PM (uOvAE)

4 What else am I missing? Perhaps the fact that even thought the MSM has tried its best to stigmatize him, many Americans still are capable of thinking for themselves, and are aware of what an honorable pubic servant and defender of his country Cheney actually is.

Posted by: sherlock at November 06, 2007 10:27 PM (ojW85)

5 I think next summer and fall we should all make certain to visit Lefty 'blogs and remind them how the Democrats conspired to let the war criminal Cheney escape justice. Winona LaDuke in '08!

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 06, 2007 10:32 PM (pNbbN)

6 Cheney should now run for President!

Posted by: Robert at November 06, 2007 10:48 PM (oHBxM)

7 By the time the trial got underway, we'd be in the middle of the primaries trying to pick his replacement. Not only that, but you'd never get a conviction anyway.

Posted by: Tim at November 06, 2007 10:51 PM (WiHUE)

8 Cut Kucinich some slack. His alien overlords from Ceti Alpha V ordered him (via subspace radio received in his tooth fillings) to impeach the greatest obstacle to conquering the Sol system: The One Known as Cheney, and his Barbed Cock.

Posted by: Xoxotl at November 06, 2007 10:54 PM (tH4zz)

9 Reason #7 : Democrats are scared of how many kook members of congress that would actually vote for it while advancing Truther conspiracies.

Posted by: LiveFromFortLivingRoom at November 06, 2007 10:55 PM (i0U2a)

10 Depending on the charges Cheney's lawyers could probably subpoena a shitload of democratic legislatures as well as former Clinton admin personel, and have them admit the same beliefs as Cheney did, and so they would be guilty as well or Cheney would be as innocent as them. Or afterwards they'd be getting charged with perjury.

Posted by: buzzion at November 06, 2007 11:03 PM (TY0jZ)

11 Technically I think it would be harder to impeach and remove Cheney than Bush. A VP has almost no less authority and duties. That greatly restricts what he might be accused of.

It isn't impossible. Corruption, lying to or impeding Congress or the courts, treason, etc. or usurping authority are impeachable.

Democrats probably want an impeachment even less than Republicans.

Posted by: K at November 06, 2007 11:27 PM (LIGtI)

12 Depending on the charges Cheney's lawyers could probably subpoena a shitload of democratic legislatures as well as former Clinton admin personel

No problem. I got that alllll covered. They gotta find 'em first.

Posted by: Sandy Berger at November 06, 2007 11:43 PM (tH4zz)

13 Dang! They should have had that debate. It would have been fun. Later, Dick Cheney would have devoured Kucinich infront of a joint session of both houses.

Posted by: Tushar D at November 06, 2007 11:43 PM (9ULFg)

14 It's 7:48 PST and Drudge is reporting that the Dems were not able to prevent debate?

Posted by: random at November 06, 2007 11:49 PM (SI17F)

15 Ah...I see the Drudge link to TheHill.com is outdated. The Hill now has a more recent, correct page up. Sorry for the noise.

Posted by: random at November 06, 2007 11:56 PM (SI17F)

Gerbils? I didn't see a single mention of gerbils, Gabe!

Posted by: davis,br at November 07, 2007 12:26 AM (5xoMO)

17
I'm so sick of hearing these weridos talk about impeachment. If for some god forsaken reason Hillary! wins, I'm going to start talking impeachment the night of the inauguration. What's good for the goose . . .

Posted by: aoshq janitor at November 07, 2007 04:43 AM (ackab)

18 A long debate on the war, and the various lefty lies about the Administration, when we are winning in Iraq and a lot of the facts have come out about Joe Wilson, etc. -- oh, sweet! If we could count on the Republicans to be aggressive about this it would be an awesome display and a chance to set a few points on the record straight. And make the Dems either commit to to moonbats or to sane people in the most public forum possible.

That is probably too big an "if" to hope for, though.

Posted by: VRWC Agent at November 07, 2007 08:55 AM (Z3AmO)

19 How about this little tid bit, they have no grounds for impeachment?

Posted by: Greg at November 07, 2007 09:17 AM (Kz86N)

Charges? In their fevered little minds they have lots of charges, from lying to the American public, all the way down to changing the formula of Ovilquick to make it more sludgy. Their main problem is trying to criminalize a war that they voted to approve, and vote to fund every year, without appearing to be totally insane. (Too late!)

Most of them have taken the cynical position of appearing in favor of impeachment just enough to get campaign cash from the frothing loons of the left without actually having to do anything that makes them look�worse.

Posted by: Georg Felis at November 07, 2007 10:50 AM (RZxGq)

21 "Cut Kucinich some slack. His alien overlords from Ceti Alpha V ordered him (via subspace radio received in his tooth fillings) to impeach the greatest obstacle to conquering the Sol system: The One Known as Cheney, and his Barbed Cock."

You know, this doesn't add to the debate. I'm tired of you guys trying to make fun of my Congressman, Dennis Kucinich, acting like he's getting orders from the aliens through his tooth fillings. Trying to make him look like a kook.

Everyone knows by now they personally visited him at Shirley McClain's house to consult with him, you Tooth-filling truther. When the hive-mind takes control you'll be the first to pay.

Posted by: rancidpoodle at November 07, 2007 11:00 AM (UN9q0)

22 His alien overlords from Ceti Alpha V

KHAAAAAN!

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at November 07, 2007 11:41 AM (/0pXT)

The impeachment would have nothing whatsoever to do with Iraq and how well it is or isn't going now or in the future or in the past. It has only to do with the fact that Cheney exists.

Posted by: arminius at November 07, 2007 11:54 AM (b1xzA)

What else are you missing?
Haliburton. Geez, it's like you don't know anything.

I love it when lefties mention Haliburton. They don't really get into any specifics, they feel all they need to do is say the word Haliburton and that's an argument.

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