DKos Diarist, Again: "I Don't Support The Troops... oops, there, I said it"

Via Allah's headlines, probably soon to be deleted into the Great Kos Graveyard of posts that honestly reveal his fans' beliefs, so here it is in full. I've bolded stuff so you can skip to the highlight reel.

I Don't Support the Troops..oops, there, I said it
by lurxst
Wed Sep 19, 2007 at 04:27:34 PM PDT
This has been digging at me for, oh, about 4 years now. I have been hesitant to express this thought, in comments sections and in discussion with other people about the Iraq quagmire for fear of, I don't know, being called mean. Or, un-American. Or something.
Supporting the troops essentially means supporting the illegal war. It seems that us anti-war types have been doing all sorts of mental and philisophical gymnastics to try and work around this. What has emerged is a sort of low impact, mealy-mouthed common wisdom that is palatable to everyone but is ultimately going to allow us to stay in Iraq for years to come.
Even Jim Webb's shelved equal time legislation carries the scent of this erroneous wisdom.
Now, I don't intend to demean Jim Webb. He is determined and impressive in his stance against the war and the crippling of our military. But this kind of legislation allows us to comfortably continue to support acts of aggression, as long as we give the troops a long enough break in between.
Until we have another draft, this is a volunteer armed services. I am not even beginning to count the numerous mercenaries that are involved in the occupation. You signed up, you get to go to the desert and risk being shot at by brown skinned people who don't believe the lies you've been told. A war of aggression is immoral, period. If you believe in God, you can damned well be sure you are going to hell for your participation in it. The only troop I support is the man or woman who refuses to be deployed so that they can make the middle east accessible to profiteers who don't give a flying F about morality or democracy. Or a soldier's life.
When Sunni tribes got paid off enough to stop shooting at GIs and instead shoot at Al-Qaeda (in reality themselves) it is funny how they suddenly became Freedom Fighters. During WWII, French resistance fighters were also called terrorists and insurgents by their German occupiers. Can an anti-war proponent look at these Iraqi resistance fighters with the same admiration, even though they worship differently than us and when they eventually win are likely to install a distasteful (to Americans) theocratic tinged state. Can a person who doesn't believe in violence support that people's right to govern themselves, perhaps violently.
I am sorry but supporting the troops means supporting this illegal war.

So there you go. Do not dare question &c.

Posted by: Ace at 10:54 AM

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1 brown skinned people who don't believe the lies you've been told

He's not just anti-war, he's just on the other side.

Posted by: Roy at September 20, 2007 11:02 AM (RNbCq)

2 I just heard Bush on the radio commenting on some children's health care program. So, where were the comments about Whackjob visiting our Hallowed Ground?

Posted by: dave at September 20, 2007 11:03 AM (81jvk)

3 It's labeled as a LGF Plant, haha. Ya, right. They do not support the troops whatsoever. Using the troops is a political tool to the Democrat Party. Nothing else.

Posted by: Kaitain at September 20, 2007 11:05 AM (4ep6C)

4 There's no need to plant this kind of stuff. Really.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 20, 2007 11:10 AM (/G4Xe)

>>even though they worship differently than us

Us? When the hell did you ever worship? Swooning after Al Gore is not worship.

Posted by: Tushar D at September 20, 2007 11:13 AM (IlgNp)

Don't you feel better now, little moonbat?

It's so wonderful to unburden yourself and say what's been on your mind, isn't it?

Posted by: lauraw at September 20, 2007 11:14 AM (bNKpX)

You missed a spot:

Now, I don't intend to demean Jim Webb. He is determined and impressive in his stance against the war and the crippling of our military.

So, it's OK to cripple our military? For an elected official to cripple our military. Dare I say sabotage? Is this not the definition of treason?

They are not "anti-patriotic". They are "pro-treasonous"

Posted by: rudytbone at September 20, 2007 11:17 AM (Djyz8)

What is the threshold number of allowable American deaths at the hands of our enemies?

What constitutes, exactly, a Moral and Legal war?

One of words? What happens when it escalates and soldiers start using spit balls and pea shooters? Do we resort to the Nuclear Option of literally burying our heads in the sand?

WTF?

Posted by: Gunslinger at September 20, 2007 11:20 AM (x0jT7)

One commenter said that (paraphrased) "poor kids join the Military because they have no other options. I know only one man who joined despite of other options. Rest all are their because they are too poor to have other options". Two other commenters said, "Not true. I joined even though I had other options"

So the first idiot says, "well, that makes it three people who joined even after having other options. But the rest of them still have no other options".

Where does Kos find such a refined collection of retards? DKOS is like a honeytrap for retards.

Posted by: Tushar D at September 20, 2007 11:23 AM (IlgNp)

10 Hey, this military wife appreciates their honesty. I wish they could have some prime time teevee allotted to them so they can share their beliefs with the American voting public. How about a couple of minutes right in the middle of American Idol? or whatever people watch. I don't watch teevee myself.

Posted by: funky chicken at September 20, 2007 11:24 AM (I+jPP)

Here's another troop-loving diarist from Kos:

<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/3/3051/46385">Letter To My Nephew - On Attending the AF Academy</a>

Dear Nephew,
Your Brother has informed me that you are considering attending the United States Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. I do not doubt that you can get into any institution you wish, and that you have the talent and drive to accomplish whatever you seek.

I am sure that many of your friends and family will advise you that this a course which will benefit you and is an honorable, responsible and exciting new path. I wish to present an alternative view. I hope you will consider my words, and I hope you will receive them in the spirit they are given, with respect and love.
Service to one's country and community is both noble and satisfying. It is a secure future, exciting, even an adventure. There are exciting things to learn, and the technology of the US Air Force is cutting edge. It must be said, however, that the Department of Defense is misnamed. The Air Force is now, and has been for a very long time, a weapon of pure offense, unmatched by any threat to the people who support it, we the American People.

Its primary use is to enforce the political decisions of the United States by raining death from above. Past, present, and future, the targets of US air power are people who live in Viet Nam, Iraq, Panama, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq again, and perhaps soon, Iran.
They live in abject poverty and are completely incapable of defending themselves. Most do not not even have enough food to eat. They have nothing of value but their lives and those they love. Daily life is an unimaginable struggle for them.
And none of them have ever done anything to threaten the United States of America. They are not capable of threatening the US. Many can't even read and most have never been out of their own villages. Even if they wished us harm, they have no means of achieving it. They are simply trying to live their miserable lives without getting a bomb dropped on them.
The sad truth is that people like this are killed every single week by the US Air Force.

Consider the people of Iraq. Whatever you may think of their culture or their beliefs, they themselves have never attacked the United States, or any part of it. They never left their own country, whatever they may done to each other.
Tens of thousands of Iraqis, including thousands of children, have been killed by the United States Air Force. Children. Mothers. Teen-agers like yourself.
And to this day, not a single American child has ever been killed by an Iraqi. In fact, not a single American, civilian or soldier, has ever been killed or even injured, by an Iraqi outside their own country. To defend one's home is the American way, and these people see us as invaders.

It's not just Bush. President Clinton used the United States Air Force to enforce American policy in Kosovo, to drive the Serbs from the province and prevent the ethnic cleansing of the Albanians. In theory it was a good cause, but because American casualties would have been unpopular, this task was assigned to the Air Force. They killed tens of thousands of both Serbs and Albanians. This is called 'collateral damage'. In this morality, it is acceptable to kill innocent people if your intent is to kill people you think are bad.

Imagine if the local police bombed a house full of drug dealers next door to you from 50,000 feet? Imagine if in chasing a murderer, the police killed half a dozen other people who were standing near him? This would not be acceptable in our world, so why is it considered acceptable in poor countries? Is it because the United States military views non-American lives as basically worthless? Yes, is the sad and infuriating answer.

There is no simpler way to put it. The United States military, and in particular the Air Force, is a force of great evil in the world today. It is The Empire from Star Wars come off the screen to kill the defenseless........

______________________

If you have the stomach, it goes on.

Posted by: TomB at September 20, 2007 11:28 AM (QrRlV)

12 Tushar, KOS is snatch for retards.

Posted by: Mark at September 20, 2007 11:30 AM (AUvbM)

Huh. So he's basically mimicking an article Ted Rall wrote for Yahoo! News yesterday. Even included the same comparison between the jihadis and the French Resistance.

At some point you'd think they'd tire of getting caught stealing some other douchebag's crazy ideas.

Posted by: JohnnyGetShotALot at September 20, 2007 11:31 AM (LN70X)

Tom B,

I am itching to know if the nephew told his retard uncle to FOAD.

Posted by: Tushar D at September 20, 2007 11:32 AM (IlgNp)

Tom B, I hope the kid goes to the AF Academy, becomes an F-22 pilot, and frames that POS's letter and posts it by his front door for the rest of his life. What a maroon!

Or makes copies of it and lets his buddies barf on it when they drink too much, and then sends the copies back to his wonderful, loving, lunatic uncle.

Posted by: funky chicken at September 20, 2007 11:32 AM (I+jPP)

16 My first reaction to stuff like this usually convinces me that I need to take a break from my politics hobby.

Posted by: Fred at September 20, 2007 11:32 AM (ivbbD)

17 I love when Kossacks speak their minds.

Posted by: sinistar at September 20, 2007 11:36 AM (lDHHO)

There's a big jump from thinking we're losing to wanting us to lose, but he made it, and pretty early on, it appears.

What explains the fixation on the illegality of the war? Do they deny our Constitution?

That's the second reference to brown-skinned people I've seen in two days--don't they know Arabs are Caucasian?

Posted by: Ralph L at September 20, 2007 11:37 AM (B7Nq7)

>>don't they know Arabs are Caucasian?

They are, but they are living in shadows.

Posted by: Tushar D at September 20, 2007 11:41 AM (IlgNp)

So was Al Gore Darth Vader a while ago? I'm pretty sure Hillary! agrees with this guy's assessment of the Air Force, BTW.

WASHINGTON (CNN) � She has been sharply critical of Vice President Dick Cheney in the past, but Democratic Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton took it up a notch Wednesday night, calling the president's No. 2 "Darth Vader."

The New York Democrat referred to Cheney as the infamous Star Wars villain at a New York fundraiser when she described his efforts to keep Republican senators behind the Iraq war.

"Vice President Cheney came up to see the Republicans yesterday," Clinton said at the fundraiser. "You can always tell when the Republicans are getting restless, because the Vice President�s motorcade pulls into the Capitol, and Darth Vader emerges."

The crowd erupted in laughter.

"I�m not invited to their meetings and I don�t know what he says or does," she added. "But all the brave talk about bringing our troops home, and setting deadlines, and getting out by a certain date just dissipated."

The comments came during an informal talk on stage with former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack and retired Gen. Wesley Clark, both supporters of Clinton.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Posted by: funky chicken at September 20, 2007 11:42 AM (I+jPP)

21 TomB's letter was written by A Whitney Brown, a humorless writer/actor from SNL's shit years. What a rotten thing to do to a young relative. Even worse than that Barnard girl trying to get her brother out of USNA.

Posted by: Ralph L at September 20, 2007 11:47 AM (B7Nq7)

22 It really is the brown skin thing that has most of these morons upset. They could not have cared less when their idol was bombing the white skinned Serbians.

Posted by: Mike at September 20, 2007 11:52 AM (+N6k8)

23 You know what? I'll be honest. I no longer support these people's health and right to live unmolested. Since they're really just a bunch of treasonous fools who undermine my country and Western civilization I've come to realize that supporting their right to exist in peace is really just supporting our demise.

Imagine injecting your body with cancer cells. Or permitting them to exist in your body for some shady notion of equality, fairness and rights in relation to other, non-destructive cells in your body. That would be insane, wouldn't it?

What's more, these people not only want our destruction, they're willing to watch the destruction of the vastly larger group of brown people in Iraq who want al Qaeda around even less.

They want people to die for their narcissim. Screw this.

Let's just start prepping for the day when we have to put a bullet to them.

Oops... there, I said it.

Posted by: Amos at September 20, 2007 12:18 PM (gYsFF)

Dear Uncle,

Thanks for the letter. I think it will interest you to know I pasted a copy of it to a 500lb. bomb intended for some Al Qaeda camp in Iraq.

The secondary explosions were wonderful.

Bombs away,

Your Nephew

Posted by: TomB at September 20, 2007 12:27 PM (QrRlV)

Remember our war of aggression against Germany, who had not attacked us at Pearl Harbor?

Historical footnote: Germany actually tried to negotiate for peace once it was clear we had the upper hand. Instead, we invaded.

Posted by: TallDave at September 20, 2007 12:46 PM (oyQH2)

26 The Uncle Whit letter is revolting, and sure enough, some asshole used it in the comments for Idris Lepplas column, I guess to show solidarity with her. Anyway, it shows that AW Brown is every bit as knowledgeable about the Air Force as Idris is about the military academies.

Posted by: stace at September 20, 2007 01:54 PM (A56/D)

27 It will be interesting to see the leftist's reactions to the troops when they finally come home. What with all of their posturing about how the troops are too precious to be wasted in the shithole that is Iraq. Will it be parades and "Good to have you home!" (win or lose), or will it be spitting and "Fuck you babykiller and your illegal war too!" I could be wrong, but I'm betting on the latter.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 20, 2007 01:59 PM (oLULt)

28 Told ya, this is going to get louder and more common as the year goes on. By next year the "I don't support the troops" will start being sounded by congressmen not running for reelection and TV talking heads.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 20, 2007 02:00 PM (wmgz8)

It will be interesting to see the leftist's reactions to the troops when they finally come home. What with all of their posturing about how the troops are too precious to be wasted in the shithole that is Iraq. Will it be parades and "Good to have you home!" (win or lose), or will it be spitting and "Fuck you babykiller and your illegal war too!" I could be wrong, but I'm betting on the latter.

Well Darth, you may get some insite by the fact that these punks were throwing eggs at Vietnam Vet.s last Saturday.

Posted by: captkidney at September 20, 2007 04:00 PM (XoUt8)

I go out of my way to fuck over people in traffic who drive cars with Impeach Bush bumper stickers.

There. I said it.

hee hee heeee

Posted by: Warden at September 20, 2007 04:06 PM (QWUn5)

31 The thing is, this guy's analysis is accurate at the end: you have to support their mission to support the troops. He's just an honest lefty.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 20, 2007 04:33 PM (wmgz8)

If you believe in God, you can damned well be sure you are going to hell for your participation in it.

Thanks there, Archbishop lurxst. I would rather defer to my Brigade Chaplain than your...uh, odd theological views. Thanks tho' for your touching concern re: my immortal soul.

I'll stick with my upcoming deployment however...

Posted by: Major John at September 20, 2007 05:34 PM (fmK2T)

33 Re-deploy the troops!

Bring them home! (And surround the NY Times, LA Times, San Francisco, Al Gore's mansions, Boston, etc. with them.)

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