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| Franklin, are you there?Confederate Yankee reminds us it’s been exactly two months since Michael Goldfarb of the Weekly Standard started the ball rolling on the Baghdad Fabulist. We know that Scott Thomas Beauchamp, the author of the three stories Foer ran in The New Republic, had a chance to speak with The New Republic 12 days ago. We also know that Beauchamp has refused to discuss his original claims with any other media organization, and gave a blanket statement to the PAO to relay to media organizations that he will not discuss the incidents in his stories, period. It appears that Beauchamp will not speak to Franklin Foer any more about these articles, and that he may have frozen him out, perhaps upon the direction of a lawyer.CY has more on the story to date and a challenge for Foer. I am glad that Bob Owens is keeping this story alive. To me, the issue is bigger than one jagoff and the fools at TNR. The left has been portraying American troops as psychopathic killers for over 30 years. Unfortunately they had some success in making it stick to the Vietnam generation but we have the chance to kill this narrative before it takes hold on this generation of American heroes. It will take time and perseverance but in the end the truth about our troops should come out as well as about those who defamed them. So to Franklin and the rest of the gang at TNR…put up or fess up when it comes to Beauchamp. Comments1
Its so important to keep TNR from worming out of responsibility for this, I'm glad its being kept track of.
Posted by: sinistar at September 18, 2007 06:23 PM (JqHsZ) 2
You ask the impossible of Franklin Foer, the editors at TNR (some apparently from the Pacific Northwest, like the Seattle P-I), the twofisted seegar-chompin' editors of the MSM, and the Left in general. Self-revisionism is simply not doctrinaire; only self-criticism, and as the result of a public denunciation by an approved party loyalist is acceptable. However, frequently placing an ad (a capitalist tool) for information leading to the truth about Scott B. and TNR, how Hsu really got his money, what he did with it and the real sources of Hillary!'s funding, etc., are welcome (and, looking back from a historical perspective 50 years from now, probably necessary). Posted by: Arbalest at September 18, 2007 06:24 PM (rVM3l) 3
You know, Frank Sinatra started all of this with his 1960 film Ocean's Eleven depiction of WWII veteran paratroopers as Vegas thieves. A vile a spurious lie. But it came from Frank so shut the fuck up and accept it 'cause it's Frank's world and we just live in it.
Posted by: Penn State Marine at September 18, 2007 06:34 PM (DFVTW) 4
Unfortunately they had some success in making it stick to the Vietnam generation but we have the chance to kill this narrative before it takes hold on this generation of American heroes. If the Vietnam generation had had the internet maybe they would've fought back too. Lacking control in any area of the media of the time pretty much left them without a weapon. Thank Gore we have the internet and people who are willing to devote their time to keeping the truth from being completely whitewashed away by our elitist gatekeepers. Posted by: Sticky B at September 18, 2007 07:11 PM (0kp42) 5
That's the thing, isn't it. Prissy little leftist jagoffs like Franklin Foer (douche probably smokes a pipe) have had not only the desire but the free reign to malign the very people who keep them free to enjoy their pate whilst chuckling over the latest impotent Wolcott misfire (I hope the occicats crap in his slippers).
And meanwhile, reputations are destroyed and institutions are undermined. And worse yet, it heartens the enemies of America and emboldens them when they, for example, decide to take over some planes and do some damage. Whatever happened to just being fair? How about, maybe, not make things up and potentially ruin lives in order to express dissent? Whatever happened to decency? Doesn't Franklin Foer know that running the Beauchamp stories was not decent? If so, why didn't he care? Posted by: Kensington at September 18, 2007 07:12 PM (Hzq7R) 6
Doesn't Franklin Foer know that running the Beauchamp stories was not decent? If so, why didn't he care?
My guess? He's an unprincipled crapweasel who cares only about winning. Posted by: Slublog at September 18, 2007 07:28 PM (PbSaM) 7
So when does that "re-reporting" start, Frank? Or is that publicly-made promise "no longer operative"? If a business whose product is supposedly the truth simply puts its fingers in its ears, squint its eyes, and pretends nothing happened, how the hell can anyone attribute any integrity to it in anything it does, or says, or publishes? They have burnt their brand to the waterline, and they did it to themselves by selling truth and delivering lies. Posted by: sherlock at September 18, 2007 07:36 PM (ojW85) 8
I dunno there Penn State marine. My dad was in Germany as translator for the US Army in 1946. He tells me that American troopers were ferociously dedicated to thievery, money laundering, conniving, black marketeering usw. Dad was in the black market heavily himself and says these things with nothing but admiration.
The old boy claims to have hired a crew of American troops to work for him. After hours of course, way after hours. Dad boasts that he and his crew could cause an American tank to be disassembled and disappear into the scrap metal and spare parts market between 12 midnight and 4 AM. He also tells of assisting the American colonel, for whom he translated, to ransack a local castle of over 200,000 bottles of wine, some general having had first crack and having gotten the artwork and furniture. I say, boys will be boys, not choirboys, Frank Sinatra's group were pikers, and the diligence, energy, skill and devotion to petty crime of the US Army were astonishing. Anyone remember sergeant Bilko? Posted by: BlacquesJacquesShellacques at September 18, 2007 07:42 PM (e/R6a) 9
It's vital as Ace says to fight against the baby-killer meme. I refuse to let that happen again, and the lefties are really cranking up that machine now.
But it's also important not to let journalists get away with Making Shit Up. We need honest journalists for this country to function. What's really creepy is to see lefties reflexively sticking up for people like Dan Rather and Foer, regardless of what the facts are. Thank goodness for the internet. Posted by: stace at September 18, 2007 07:43 PM (A56/D) 10
Foer and Beauchamp have numerous defenders all over the blogosphere. That useless turd over at Balloon Sluice, John Cole, has a new post up attacking those that have pointed to the "frailties" in the TNR story.
Posted by: dave at September 18, 2007 08:05 PM (XWJh5) 11
You're asking Foer to come clean is like asking a leopard to change its spots. Can't and won't.
I expect this story to be revived every 30 days until Foer retires. Posted by: EC at September 18, 2007 08:31 PM (j2Tjh) 12
I wonder - purely as an academic exercise - why the Great War generation of France and Britain were never portrayed as 'psychopaths made mad by the tensions of war'? Wasn't the trench warfare of the Western Front more intense than Viet Nam? Really, 'Fritz is over there and has been trying to kill me for the last four years with machine guns, artillery and poison gas' is a little more intense I would think. Posted by: Mikey NTH at September 18, 2007 08:53 PM (lxz+4) 13
this story keeps going on and on it has more legs than the "six burning sunnis"
Posted by: John Ryan at September 18, 2007 08:55 PM (UUDbq) 14
BJS: I doubt the US Army, now, with that knowledge of looting, etc. puts up with that when they find it. Can you say "Hello, Leavenworth?"
It isn't 1940's Europe, you know. 'Boys will be boys'doesn't quite cut it in a 24/7 media culture, especially when the main media industry would just love to run those stories rather than participate in the same looting. Posted by: Mikey NTH at September 18, 2007 08:59 PM (lxz+4) 15
this story keeps going on and on it has more legs than the "six burning sunnis"
It's like Olberdouche keeping a daily tally of how long it's been since the "Mission Accomplished" moment, only this actually has a point. Posted by: Kensington at September 18, 2007 09:22 PM (Hzq7R) 16
I think the next step is for the blogging community to start pressuring TNR's owner. Michelle did a great video at TNR's door; now someone needs to show up at their door. Maybe we have some bloggers-in-arms north of the border that could go for it. Plus, we should send them a petition or something via their website, to ask them when they are going to take care of this B.S. We could do a call-in/fax/e-mail drive, with every American who is offended by this calling their Canadian HQ and filing a complaint. After about 50,000 different Americans complaining, maybe they will get the point. One thing the Canadians know- there's a whole lot more of us than them.
Posted by: Dogstar at September 18, 2007 10:36 PM (FgxdU) 17
It isn't 1940's Europe, you know.
It also isn't a draftee military. Not to denigrate those who served before, but there is a huge difference in preparedness and professionalism. Posted by: VRWC Agent at September 18, 2007 11:03 PM (Z3AmO) 18
No way in Hell that smear will stick to our fighting men, now. Nuh- Uh. No way. Not even worth debating. In that particular arena of thought, the lefties have already had their asses handed to them. Abu-Gra-whatsis? Sorry, I don't speak dumbass. Posted by: lauraw at September 18, 2007 11:40 PM (XWJh5) 19
C'mon, Foer just wants this whole thing to go away. He's waiting for the day when Elspeth tells him he can come out from under his desk. I've been keeping an eye on this too, ever since I got a response from his 1SG and the PAO in his unit. TNR doesn't want to admit it got punked by a problem child.
Posted by: sfcmac at September 19, 2007 10:14 AM (y+WIp) 20
Waitasec here; John Ryan posts something both cogent and on-topic? They must be having a snowball fight in Hell right about now.
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