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And that poll was mostly taken before Petraeus' and Crocker's two days of testimony, and before the testimony is picked at rehashed over the next week of news.

37% is not, of course, a majority. But it is an overwhelming majority of Republicans and moderates in swing districts and states, so these numbers, while hardly glittering, should be enough. For a while, at least.

The proportion of Americans who say the war remains winnable has edged up to 37% from 32% in July, while the majority who say it isn't has diminished to 56% from 62%. The proportion saying the troop surge is helping the situation on the ground has risen to 33% from 29% in July and 24% in April.
The proportion saying the Iraq war has been worth the financial and human costs ticked up to 35% from 33% in July. Mr. Bush's approval rating on Iraq is still paltry at 30%. But that's up from 22% in July.
The poll shows that American sentiment about the war is complex. Asked about possible outcomes, just 24% say U.S. troops should leave only after Iraq becomes a stable democracy. Yet just 26% say troops should start leaving now regardless of conditions on the ground. A 37% plurality says some troops should remain in the region even after leaving Iraq to prevent violence from spreading.

Glenn Greenwald should probably modify his cutesy catchphrase about the "24% dead-enders" up the "37% not-quite-dead-enders," but perhaps word travels slowly down to the most patriotic city in America, the site of the Bunker Hill stand, Rio de Janiero.

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1 When it comes to the US military; all wars are winnable.
The potential for loss always rides with the civilian sector.

Posted by: harrison at September 12, 2007 09:36 PM (Gv4O0)

2 I know this is news to the NY Times and the rest of the usual suspects but outside of Democratic primary voters, there isn't a very big constituency for defeat. Sure, there's a lot of people who don't see how we win in Iraq (I am in that group at times) but that's very different than being invested in our defeat.

Will that number go higher? Who knows but between General Petraeus' presentation and Bush's speech tomorrow, there will be a definite bump. People want to believe.

Posted by: Drew at September 12, 2007 09:40 PM (hlYel)

3 I know I shouldn't have to say it, but having "Mad Bomber" Greenwald lecture anybody about integrity is like me lecturing people about dieting.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 12, 2007 10:26 PM (npxFh)

4 Watch out, Ace, you may start getting a rush of emails from the Club Coppacabanga in Rio

Posted by: eddiebear at September 12, 2007 10:27 PM (npxFh)

And this is a WSJ/NBC poll. These guys love polling over the weekend (which always favors the Dems) and notoriously slant Dem in their methodology.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 12, 2007 10:34 PM (npxFh)

6 I've NEVER been called by a pollster. Working conservatives rarely have time for crappy "push polls" that won't even give you the standard deviation for each question when they are released.

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at September 12, 2007 10:58 PM (p0Yi7)

7 ...

Posted by: woodke1235 at September 12, 2007 11:04 PM (lM4dh)

8 I'm waiting for the poll that asks how many people if they realize the war ended when we defeated Saddam Hussein and his army, then occupied the country. Every single occupation of every single country in history has taken years to pacify the resistance and troublemakers - decades sometimes. Just ask the various invaders of the British Islands or the American settlers. We're not at war in Iraq. We're at war in the larger sense of the War on Terror, but we're not at war in Iraq.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 13, 2007 12:13 AM (wmgz8)

9 I like to tell the MoveOnBots across the street that the louder they yell, the better we do. I like the pretty colors in their faces.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at September 13, 2007 01:36 AM (2o4KV)

Al Qaeda knows it's a big deal. They are going after the sheiks.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20754861/

Bad news for the good guys. If true, this is the guy that started the ball rolling.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at September 13, 2007 10:07 AM (UEEex)

11 The approval rate is probably 57% right now, not that the MSM would EVER positively spin news from Iraq, or look for people who would support it.

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