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Kiddie-Porn Lovin' Ex-ACLU Chapter President Gets Seven Years

He may not have a wide stance now, but give it time, baby.

Posted by: Ace at 06:11 PM



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1

Guy says he was depressed and it caused him to like kiddy porn?

Wow.

Drinking and drugs ,sure.

Cutting ,maybe.

Kiddy porn? I don't think so.

Posted by: captkidney at September 07, 2007 06:20 PM (age8s)

2 His stance isn't the only thing that's going to get a little widening.

Posted by: mesablue at September 07, 2007 06:25 PM (KCOdQ)

3 His longterm forecast calls for less spankin' and more shankin'.

Posted by: not that ryan at September 07, 2007 06:27 PM (LcnPS)

4 He's an ok guy; we met at a NAMBLA meeting a while back.

Posted by: toobino at September 07, 2007 06:28 PM (AVxOW)

5 Toobino, did he stop calling when you turned 18?

Posted by: z ryan at September 07, 2007 06:29 PM (PDeVA)

6 I wonder if he'll be in the next episode of "To Brutally Gang Rape a Predator".

Posted by: Rosetta at September 07, 2007 06:33 PM (omkIU)

7 Kidding aside, can you imagine that beyond the victims in the photos and videos he was watching (it just wasn't kiddie porn but kiddie torture porn) how having your father doing this fucks up your wife and kids minds???

Posted by: dave at September 07, 2007 06:48 PM (gJxLc)

8 It should have read:  . . . how a man doing this fucks up his wife's and kids minds?

Posted by: dave at September 07, 2007 06:49 PM (gJxLc)

9 Lives, dave, not minds.

Posted by: not that ryan at September 07, 2007 07:23 PM (LcnPS)

10 Let's agree that it's both. I can't believe that such an act wouldn't cause psychological problems in a man's wife and children.

Posted by: dave at September 07, 2007 08:13 PM (gJxLc)

11

I can't believe that such an act wouldn't cause psychological problems in a man's wife and children.

Damn right - but let's remember: the "act" we are talking about this turd going to jail for 7 years for was not harming any child, it was buying child pornography.

This is one of those things that the lefties should be citing as slippery slopes instead of eavesdropping on terrorists.  I am sure everyone here agrees child porn is despicable, but how about sometime in the future when "everyone" agrees that disparaging other religions or countries or political thought is despicable...

This kind of crime (and it should be a crime) should be addressed by other means than lengthy incarceration.  There are legal mechanisms for supervision and restraint that are used all the time, even for overtly violent crimes directed at actual individual victims.  Could they always prevent a future crime? No.  But for behavior that has claimed no victim nor targets a victim, lengthy removal from society is inappropriate.

There ARE "victimless" things that should be harshly punished, but they are the things that are leading clearly to a crime - building a bomb, etc.  Yes, you could argue this behavior could have led to child molestation, but it seems to me this could have been dealt with by something short of big jail-time.

ps. anyone who has read my comments here before knows I have no love for ACLU types, and "no love" is an understatement.  I will respond to honest critcism, but not to insults, because I have offered a reasoned comment on this.

Posted by: sherlock at September 07, 2007 09:40 PM (ojW85)

12 Sherlock: So you are presumably unmoved by the argument that buying child pornography creates a strong economic incentive for pornographers to harm even more children by continuing to produce new porn?

Posted by: Throbert McGee at September 07, 2007 10:16 PM (Vgxhz)

13 sherlock, the purchase of such media leads to a market for same. While there will always be sick fucks that do this on their own impulses, adding a financial gain angle encourages more. Punishment should be harsh, and lasting

Posted by: Frank G at September 07, 2007 10:19 PM (Ydps9)

14

Ditto Throbert and Frank G.  This is far from a victimless crime.

Anything kiddie porn related should be defined the same way that the Bush doctrine defines terrorism.  Those that buy it are as guilty as those that create it.

The harm this shit causes to society is exponential because it oftentimes causes so much harm to the victims that they then abuse others.  It's a sick pyramid scheme.

Whatever happens to these scumbags in prison is okay by me.

Posted by: Rosetta at September 07, 2007 11:00 PM (9oivZ)

15 I predict he's be dead within 6 months.

Posted by: Bruce at September 07, 2007 11:35 PM (2q+Ss)

16 My argument is quite clearly concerning the appropriate degree of punishment.  I do not see any responses that directly address the degree, beyond reiterating the disgusting nature of the crime.  Try to focus, morons.  And if you don't like being called morons, I must have strayed into the wrong blog.

Posted by: sherlock at September 07, 2007 11:35 PM (ojW85)

17

sherlock,

What would you prescribe as the appropriate degree of punishment for someone that helps to create a market for kiddie-torture porn?

Posted by: Rosetta at September 07, 2007 11:41 PM (Jf5b4)

18

Anything kiddie porn related should be defined the same way that the Bush doctrine defines terrorism.  Those that buy it are as guilty as those that create it.

I was initially too dismissive... this was a good response.  The difference I see is again one of degree.  Nations have the capacity to harbor criminality that can murder on a titanic scale.  But we have the legal mechanisms in the US to control individual deviants, however imperfectly, and we use them even for much more physically horrific crimes.

Posted by: sherlock at September 07, 2007 11:47 PM (ojW85)

19

What would you prescribe as the appropriate degree of punishment for someone that helps to create a market for kiddie-torture porn?

Fuck if I know... that's why I'm thankfully not a judge.  My whole point is that 7 years in jail is over the top, and probably societally destructive in the long run.

Posted by: sherlock at September 07, 2007 11:53 PM (ojW85)

20 I like the cut of his jib and I hope to fellate him very soon.

Posted by: toobino at September 08, 2007 12:01 AM (2geHz)

21

I like the cut of his jib and I hope to fellate him very soon.

Wait a friggen minute!! You get fellated in jail?

Fucken child-proners should get 31 seconds in the crowbar hotel, and not a second more... I know how to admit when I'm wrong!

Posted by: sherlock at September 08, 2007 12:09 AM (ojW85)

22

My whole point is that 7 years in jail is over the top, and probably societally destructive in the long run.

I would like to know how keeping this douche from peddling in child porn or piddling actual children for 7 years is societally destructive.

The bar is low on why these fuckers should be locked up forever.

Hey, you get a DWI after making a bad decision to drive home after a party?  You may be a good person that made a bad decision.

You do anything that involves the sexual abuse of children including downloading pictures off the internet, you're a bad person.  There is no way it can be otherwise, sherlock.

7 years as a prison shower pin cushion seems completely appropriate to me.

 

Posted by: Rosetta at September 08, 2007 01:18 AM (776v3)

23

In this type of situation justice is not merely securing the guilty to punish and prevent them from doing futher harm, there is also a message to be sent to those who would engage in similar acts.  Do this and you will pay a very high price. 

Seven years hardly seems appropriate for the sexual torture of children.  And yes I am saying he is as guilty as those who performed and filmed the acts.  Any time you finance an illegal activity you become a full and willing participant in the crime. 

Read the details, this wasn't a brief curiosity, the guy was deeply into this stuff and is twisted in ways that all but beggar belief.  Especially egregious is the fact that he was supposed to be a paragon of protecting individual rights.  Well, it's damn clear he really wasn't too concerned about defending the most basic rights of those most in need of protection.

Twenty years seems about right, and was within the sentencing guidelines. 

In my world he'd already be at room temperature.

Posted by: ThomasD at September 08, 2007 02:36 AM (gMIZD)

24 My whole point is that 7 years in jail is over the top, and probably societally destructive in the long run.

And has already been said in one form or another, the majority of people and the courts strongly disagree with you.  Hopefully, these sentences are destructive to a society that allows children to be exploited in this manner.

Posted by: dave at September 08, 2007 11:07 AM (gJxLc)

25 7 years rotting in a gibbet may be a bit over the top.  I think 2 would be sufficient and there ain't much left after two anyway unless they're tarred up good first.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 08, 2007 12:22 PM (mrNpK)

26 I mean, really ... is anyone surprised that these lefties - who think it's a RIGHT to kill a baby - also think it's perfectly okay to use slightly older kids as sex toys?

Their value system is totally fucked up. Put them away and let Bubba use them for playthings for a few years.

Posted by: Bruce at September 08, 2007 02:44 PM (2q+Ss)

27

Seven years isn't over the top - it isn't even on the bottom rung.  Who knows what else this sicko has done?   I mean, at this he got caught, and you know it ain't the first time.

Lock his sorry ass up.  Throw away the key.  The end.

Posted by: MDH at September 08, 2007 05:55 PM (JODil)

28 I think it is important to note that not all members of the ACLU are kiddie-porn loving sicko's. Only some of them are.

Second, I guess we know why he was so against search and seizure.

Third, he used his 11-year old son's computer. That might be the sickest aspect of all. Can you imagine what was left in the cache?

Posted by: Insider at September 08, 2007 08:58 PM (GABxF)

29 A couple of years ago I saw this documentary about this kid named Ricky Rodriguez. His parents were heads of the Children of God cult and he was used as a sex toy from the minute he was borned as part of their "belief system."  They made movies and took photos of this child being sexually abused and put them in a book.  When he got older he escaped the cult but suffered tremendously. He was trying to find his mother, to be honest, kill her. He made a tape about how he was going to go find her. His rage was unbelievable.  He was able to locate her secretary at her apt and they argued and he stabbed her to death. He then called his wife and told her that it wasn't easy to kill another human being and killed himself. I felt so sorry for this kid who never had much of a chance.

http://www.xfamily.org/index.php/Story_of_Davidito

Posted by: dave at September 09, 2007 12:45 PM (xWNVw)

30 As to whether his sentence was too high, other news stories report that his sentence was less than what is recommended in the federal sentencing guidelines. Also, if  you do a google search, most  sentences for possession of child pornography are much higher. Is it unfair? I don't think so. But for the fact that people are buying it, there would be a lot less of it produced and less victims. He's a voyeur of the raping and torturing of 6 year olds. Fuck him. 

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