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New Possibly New Osama Tape Proves He's Alive Quite Possibly Alive
Update: Seems Recent-- Transcript Has Osama Praising Democrats, Noam Chomsky, Kyoto Accord (?!?!)

While everyone is headlining this as proof of life, the actual facts seem a bit fuzzier.

Intelligence sources tell ABC News they believe the video message from Osama bin Laden is authentic, recently produced and evidence the al Qaeda leader is still alive.

According to government sources, an initial analysis of the tape indicates "a lot of chest thumping" and of course historical references "alluding" to the successful attack on New York.

And a CIA spokesman told ABC News, "It's quite possible this is a new video."

U.S. authorities earlier this morning said the tape's transcript is aimed at potential suicide bombers who he urges to carry out missions against the West.

The jihadist Web site announced the tape with a banner, showing a still picture of bin Laden, now 50 years old, looking fit with a full beard of dark black hair, no gray at all.

"It does look oddly like he is wearing a false beard," Richard Clarke, a former White House counterterrorism official and now ABC News consultant, said. "If we go back to the tape three years, he had a very white beard. This looks like a phony beard that has been passed on."

The "phony beard" may be an important clue as to where bin Laden is hiding, according to Clarke.

"One place where a beard would stand out would be southeast Asia, the Philippines, Indonesia," Clarke told ABC News. "No one's thought he was there, but that is an environment where most men, Muslim men don't have beards."

I realize it's a CIA spokesman saying it's only "quite possible" the tape is new, and he may be a bit more cautious about announcing an official judgment than the various leaking intelligence sources ABCNews has. Still, despite the description of the tape the sources are leaking, there is no mention of Osama dating the tape by specifically referring to a recent event. It's quite possible he made such a reference, which of course proves he's alive; but as of yet no one is hinting at what he said that might have prompted the "it's new" conclusion.

Well There You Go: ABCNews now has update and says it has a transcript. The reference to the November 2006 elections suggests he was alive then and is most likely alive now.

Watch him criticize Democrats, Kos-like, for not being forceful enough in trying to end the War in Iraq, and even praise Noam Chomsky and the Kyoto Accord. I'll give him this: he knows his target audience.


Sources tell ABC News the tape is approximately 30 minutes long, and does not contain overt threats to the United States.

...

Bin Laden also spoke to the ongoing situation in Iraq throughout the tape, heavily criticizing the Bush administration.

He says to the American people, "you made one of your greatest mistakes, in that you neither brought to account nor punished those who waged this war, not even the most violent of its murderers, [former Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld…"

"You permitted Bush to complete his first term, and stranger still, chose him for a second term, which gave him a clear mandate from you -- with your full knowledge and consent -- to continue to murder our people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then you claim to be innocent! The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th -- were I to claim such a thing."

Bin Laden says President Bush's words echo "neoconservatives like Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Richard Perle."

"People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there."

...

According to the transcript, bin Laden says there are two ways to end the war:

"The first is from our side, and it is to continue to escalate the killing and fighting against you."

The second is to do away with the American democratic system of government. "It has now become clear to you and the entire world the impotence of the democratic system and how it plays with the interests of the peoples and their blood by sacrificing soldiers and populations to achieve the interests of the major corporations."

The rambling transcript also mentions French President Sarkozy, which suggests the tape was made after Sarkozy's election in May.

Bin Laden comes close to offering a date for the tape with this by saying, "... just a few days ago, the Japanese observed the 62nd anniversary of the annihilation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by your nuclear weapons." The anniversary was on August 6.

He goes on to call Noam Chomsky "among one of the most capable of those from your own side," and mentions global warming and "the Kyoto accord."

He also speaks to recent issues grabbing headlines in the United States, referring to "the reeling of many of you under the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgages; global warming and its woes..."

Dude, this is coming straight from Kos and the DNC. Extraordinary.


Posted by: Ace at 02:55 PM



Comments

1

Does anyone else see these videos imitating the Chapelle's Show "Tupac Song" skit anytime soon?

Posted by: A Lock of Che Guevara's Chest Hair at September 07, 2007 03:00 PM (Oy3At)

2

Osama must be bored out of his mind.

Every night he sits around the campfire reminiscing about the old days. 

It always starts with, remember that one time we bombed New York? Oh man, good times, good times.

Posted by: pajama momma at September 07, 2007 03:01 PM (Tbl5c)

3 I personally believe everything the CIA says about intelligence analysis.  Our intelligence has always been infallible.

Posted by: Attila (Pillage Idiot) at September 07, 2007 03:02 PM (RxE9L)

4

Ace,

Check your e-mail. There is something you will want to see.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at September 07, 2007 03:04 PM (G2vHw)

5 The jihadist Web site announced the tape with a banner, showing a still picture of bin Laden, now 50 years old, looking fit with a full beard of dark black hair, no gray at all.

Maybe, he's looking to hook up? How many wives does he have? I think it would be hard to get an accurate count in that don't those assholes take any girl they want, marry her, divorce her, and move on? What a scam!

Posted by: dave at September 07, 2007 03:06 PM (gJxLc)

6 This is new in the same way you can buy "new" albums by Frank Zappa and John Lennon. Put enough stuff on tape and your heirs can release it for decades.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at September 07, 2007 03:12 PM (PGzrn)

7 The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th -- were I to claim such a thing."

So, I guess we can put Osama squarely in the No camp when it comes to the 9/11 Turther question?

Somebody want to tell over 40% of Democrats in this country?

Posted by: Drew at September 07, 2007 03:12 PM (hlYel)

8 all that is missing is the "I have three Purple Hearts."

Posted by: blogRot at September 07, 2007 03:15 PM (EKMxC)

9 Ubie puts out a tape straight from Hardball and Countdown just before the Petraeus Bush Report comes out? Oh dear God, they are going to be questioning the timing of this until their little heads explode. 

It's a lot easier to do that than taking a look in the mirror and wonder why bin Laden and your talking points are the exactly the same.

Posted by: Drew at September 07, 2007 03:19 PM (hlYel)

10

Somebody want to tell over 40% of Democrats in this country?

Have you ever tried to get a word in edgewise with a raving Moonbat?

Can't be done.

Posted by: Kensington at September 07, 2007 03:19 PM (kFwRi)

11 Ohman, this is gold.  It's the corporations and global warming...

Posted by: z ryan at September 07, 2007 03:22 PM (PDeVA)

12 I dunno why the guy doesn't just hold up yesterday's newspaper for the camera and be done with the "recency" question.

Posted by: Rittenhouse at September 07, 2007 03:22 PM (qD4kf)

13 Ohman, this is gold.  It's the corporations and global warming...

Posted by: z ryan at September 07, 2007 03:22 PM (PDeVA)

14 Why is Osama so concerned about my mortgage?  Why not share his opinion on Michael Vick and and the fate of Britney's kids? What a douche.

Posted by: oclarki at September 07, 2007 03:23 PM (otsZj)

15 Anti-business, anti-democratic, anti-war..this guy is almost as far left as Edwards.

He could either be the next Democratic presidential candidate or professor in any US university.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 07, 2007 03:24 PM (t+mja)

16
What?  No praise from Osama for Big Spiders? 

You know, I just can't get behind a Jihad that doesn't toss a bone to Big Spider once and awhile.

Also, can't we get a K-Tel Greatest hits version of these tapes?  Why do I gotta buy the whole album evey time?

Lastly, I feel cheated because this is really just a Bin Laden dub of Biden and Schumer on C-SPAN. Where's the  original material, man?

Posted by: Electric Ferret at September 07, 2007 03:25 PM (U5cqs)

17 Maybe the Donks could have him speak at their Convention. He could sit between Jimmy Carter and Michael Moore.

Posted by: Mahon at September 07, 2007 03:32 PM (oFhek)

18

ABC news?  Bah!

I won't believe it until it makes the front page of  The Weasel Times Stoat Intelligencer

 

Posted by: Pupster at September 07, 2007 03:35 PM (F5GQ3)

19 At least Karl Rove could have gotten a better looking fake beard. The guy amazes me. How he keeps tweaking the Democrats over and over, and they keep on saying "Thank you, sir. May I have another?"

Posted by: Roy at September 07, 2007 03:40 PM (QBYjk)

20

usama's dead - he's running for his life in hell at this moment wondering where he went so wrong and why "allah" hasn't rescued him yet - not quite able to grasp the fact that allah is just a damned rock they've worshipped and murdered for for centuries and can't do anything but lay there and isn't capable of giving a damn.

Posted by: Jenny at September 07, 2007 03:46 PM (1Qzdb)

21 Heh, Pups.

Those quotes from ABC about the authenticity, though -- those were out there this morning, before (supposedly) we had the tape yet. What gives? Did they have it and were pretending they didn't? Why?

Posted by: S. Weasel at September 07, 2007 03:49 PM (9jA8/)

22 "To conclude," bin Laden says, "I invite you to embrace Islam."  He goes on to say:  "There are no taxes in Islam, but rather there is a limited Zakaat [alms] totaling 2.5 percent.”

Payment acceptable in fake Benjamins or goat quarters.

Posted by: mrp at September 07, 2007 03:54 PM (cqPm0)

23

Yeah, why the hell is he wearing a fake beard?  I keep waiting for Ashton Kushner to pop out and tell us we've been punk'd.

 

Posted by: Oops at September 07, 2007 04:06 PM (b1kNy)

24 He goes on to call Noam Chomsky "among one of the most capable of those from your own side," and mentions global warming and "the Kyoto accord."

Rove, you magnificent bastard.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 07, 2007 04:14 PM (WTnHh)

25 Do they sell Grecian Formula in Waziristan?

Posted by: Tom at September 07, 2007 04:20 PM (02oyd)

26 Could the absence of beard really help a 6'5" Arab blend in in SE Asia, where he's a foot taller than the taller locals?

Posted by: Ralph L at September 07, 2007 04:25 PM (8l7kc)

27 does anyone have a link to the 2004  video?

Posted by: It wasn't me at September 07, 2007 04:44 PM (mgp7a)

28

Ok - so it looks like the Osama-Obama ticket in 2008 is fleshing out -

 

Posted by: Enlightened at September 07, 2007 04:45 PM (CHJ2J)

29 This is lame.

He used every one of the MoveOn, DailyKos and Code Pinko talking points.

He's supposed to be a terrorist mastermind. Can't he come up with anything original?

He even mentioned 650,000 dead Iraqis. If that ain't a h/t to Rosie, I don't know what is.

Posted by: Altair Dave at September 07, 2007 04:45 PM (YGWpH)

30 And I ask you, kaffir, can fire really and truly melt the hardness of steel?  No, it cannot.  GOOGLE IT!

Posted by: Osama Bin Ladin at September 07, 2007 04:50 PM (GFaLW)

31

Once again, AQ misreads the West.  Putting this message out now right before Petraeus gives his report is only going to kill what little chance the Dems had of forcing some withdrawal.  I need to read the full transcript, does he say that the Anbar Awakening happened only because the US Troops couldn't protect the locals so they had to do it themselves?

 

Posted by: Dudley Smith at September 07, 2007 04:59 PM (0S8Xt)

32

"does he say that the Anbar Awakening happened only because the US Troops couldn't protect the locals so they had to do it themselves?"

 

No, I think that is what Chuckie Schumer said -

I would dearly love to find out who the executive producer was for this - looks kind of sicko.

 

Posted by: Enlightened at September 07, 2007 05:01 PM (CHJ2J)

33

...is it me or, besides the beard, this guy looks nothing like Bin Laden? I saw side-by-side-comparisons and the two are, at best, relatives.

>So, I guess we can put Osama squarely in the No camp when it comes to the 9/11 Turther question?

No, he's saying "if" he did it he'd be guilty of it... in an extremely OJ kind of way.

Posted by: Francesco Poli at September 07, 2007 05:02 PM (mPqyc)

34 Hmmm, I dunno - I thought he did the vanity beard-dye to offset his new deadeye.  Looks like he had a stroke and was tended to in Cuba.

Posted by: Enlightened at September 07, 2007 05:06 PM (CHJ2J)

35 You know, I think Bin Laden might really have a shot at the Democrat nomination if he keeps this up!

Posted by: Kensington at September 07, 2007 05:09 PM (kFwRi)

36

Richard Perle has said that Osama's beard might be a fake! Based on the video's content and the latest imaging technology, I've created a composite of what a clean-shaven Osama bin Laden might look like:

http://exurbanleague.com/2007/09/07/osama-bin-lefty.aspx

Posted by: Exurban Jon at September 07, 2007 05:09 PM (N0doa)

37 Well, on the bright side - maybe the Code Pinkos will start a bitch fight over that studly, philosophic Man of Peace.   They must be O'ing over him using their talking points.

Posted by: Enlightened at September 07, 2007 05:11 PM (CHJ2J)

38

That photo doesn't really look that much like him.

 

Posted by: Dogstar at September 07, 2007 05:16 PM (FgxdU)

39

This is just stupid. That is not OBL. He's been dead for at least 3 years. This is a body double, and not a great one. I'm not sure why he would parrot DNC/Kos/tubino talking poimts, but there it is.

 

Noam Chomsky? Really?

Posted by: fugazi at September 07, 2007 05:16 PM (jefHG)

40

I'm not sure why he would parrot DNC/Kos/tubino talking poimts, but there it is.

I really think you might have that bakcwards about who's parroting whom...

Posted by: Kensington at September 07, 2007 05:22 PM (kFwRi)

41 hmm... chomsky is like unto a god for me, but obl is bad.  on the other hand obl hates bush nearly as much as i do so he can't be all bad.  what to do, what to do...

Posted by: erg at September 07, 2007 05:41 PM (AVxOW)

42 Could the absence of beard really help a 6'5" Arab blend in in SE Asia, where he's a foot taller than the taller locals?

Despite what the FBI says, he's not 6'5".

Posted by: erg at September 07, 2007 05:43 PM (AVxOW)

43 Well, the Demos and Kos loonies have received their orders. Let's see how they trip all over themselves to carry them out.

Posted by: TheSev at September 07, 2007 06:04 PM (bajTN)

44

“...you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven’t made a move worth mentioning."

Uh-oh, Donks!!  There go those coveted "last-to-be beheaded" slots!

There may be no punishment for selling out America, but there IS when you fuckups go tugging on Osama's burqua!  True, Uncle Chuckie and the USS Swimmer tried their best, but Grampaw Reid and Granny Nancy just weren't slick enough to sucker America into the Dhimmi Derby.  Ouch!

Posted by: sherlock at September 07, 2007 06:16 PM (ojW85)

45 He also speaks to recent issues grabbing headlines in the United States, referring to "the reeling of many of you under the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgages; global warming and its woes..."

Also, I'd like more and higher-resolution nude pictures of Vanessa Hudgens.

And lay off the "lolcats" stuff, it's kind of played out.

Posted by: Osama bin Laden at September 07, 2007 06:21 PM (saRwI)

46 Don't get me wrong.  this definitely helps his numbers some, and he's hitting the right chords.

But we're going to have to hear a lot more from Osama for him to move up in the polls enough to win the Democratic Primary.  I'm not saying it's impossible, as his speeches do resonate with the (D) Primary voters; but he simply isn't locking down the airtime to really push his campaign into the top position.


A little more time and money spent on PR, Advertising, and publicity would really go a long way.  He's got the memes, the target goals, and the focus, but not the face-time with the people.

Posted by: Gekkobear at September 07, 2007 06:28 PM (jpHDo)

47

"I've created a composite of what a clean-shaven Osama bin Laden might look like..."

Oh don't be so gullible, you friken morons!  That's just a Photoshop from Rosie O's plastic surgeon.  To show her what she'll look like after he lops off 50 pounds, 50 IQ points, and her nuts.

She's weighing those sacrifices against the possibility of stepping into a show on a really classy network like MSNBC.  Try to keep up, people!

Posted by: sherlock at September 07, 2007 06:34 PM (ojW85)

48 Say what you want, but Bin Laden does live a pretty carbon-neutral lifestyle.

Posted by: adam h at September 07, 2007 06:40 PM (esHiw)

49

I like this observation from Redstate:

 

"According to ABC News the new bin Laden tape indicates he's spent a lot of the past four years reading, and probably posting, at Daily Kos and shares a lot of their frustrations"

Posted by: Aldo at September 07, 2007 07:42 PM (sY4cn)

50

Ron Paul would kick Osama's arses!

Ron Paul POTUS 2008!

Posted by: I heart Ron Paul at September 07, 2007 11:16 PM (IkMEC)

51

"Say what you want, but Bin Laden does live a pretty carbon-neutral lifestyle."

Posted by: adam h

I think he's contributed all the carbon back to gaia that he ever will.

Posted by: John F Not Kerry at September 07, 2007 11:16 PM (4gHqM)

52 Hillary/Bin Laden '08!

Posted by: toobino at September 08, 2007 12:04 AM (2geHz)

53

"I'll give him this: he knows his target audience."

While guilt by after the fact association is a bit slippery I mean really, how would one deal with finding oneself agreeing with him? 

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