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| Coming Soon? "The Blesed Invasion of Manhattan"Authorities are alarmed by jihadist websites posting statements similar to chatter heard before 9/11. Federal counterterrorism officials are analyzing a posting on an Islamic forum Web site that warns of "a special gift" to be given on the sixth anniversary of Sept. 11, FOX News has learned. The warning was posted Sept. 2 on a site frequented by radical groups and said in part that "there will be a special gift coming on the day of the blessed invasion of Manhattan."As a commenter here pointed out, most of these warnings of attacks may very well be intended only to bluster and, more importantly, to fatigue law enforcement personnel as they work overtime every time one of these warnings comes to light. The real attacks may be planned for relatively chatter-free periods, when exhausted intelligence and law enforcement personnel try to get back to normal working hours and maybe take a vacation. Comments1
All muslims are going to commit suicide so they can collect their virgins? That would be a special gift.
Posted by: Master Shake at September 06, 2007 03:24 PM (tcMQZ) 2
A special gift from the Jews? Because only the Jews could have done something like 9/11.
But wait, does that mean these Jihadists are collaborating with the Jews? Posted by: Rip at September 06, 2007 03:35 PM (q2HEf) 3
To quote Rick Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade. Posted by: Veeshir at September 06, 2007 03:40 PM (zXUuJ) 4
I have a theory. It is probably spectacularly wrong, but here goes: Islamists have realized that it is easy to browbeat Europeans into submission, and submission is being achieved one terror-act and one protest at a time. Going after US results in losing a terror-sponsoring country or two. I have a feeling that the terrorists will either leave US alone for a while, or will do small-potatoes local franchise stuff. They will lie low atleast till they get a multiculti Dem in power. Then they will start using euro-style tactics here. They realized that praising Kerry did not work for them, and any praise for Dems, or any violent attack will put Repubs back in power. For all their bravado and bluster, the terrorists would rather face a weak Dem American Govt than a Strong Repub one. Posted by: Tushar D at September 06, 2007 03:40 PM (IlgNp) 5
I, too, have a theory. {cough}
Posted by: A. Elk at September 06, 2007 04:00 PM (wWwJR) 6
You know the best way to deter terrorism is to kill terrorists and every member of their family and tribe.
Posted by: BattleofthePyramids at September 06, 2007 04:04 PM (wQ2hh) 7
What does Blesed mean anyways?
Posted by: pajama momma at September 06, 2007 04:07 PM (Tbl5c) 8
I don't know whether jihadis have enough brains to reason out that waiting quietly for a Dem President is smarter than watching another sanctuary get taken apart by the US military or not. But I do know that even Democrat congressmen/women are smart enough to know that they are putting their country at risk with constantly trying to undermine this administration's national security efforts. So I propose that there should be consequences for the next attack, and they should not be limited to consequences for AQ. There should be consequences for Dems that indirectly help them too. I wonder how many people screaming on the Capital Mall and beating on the doors of congress would it take to cause Schumer, Biden, Kennedy... you name it, to resign? What if a few tens of thousands of folks formed a "Take Out the Trash" campaign, and went there and refused to leave until the leading terrorist enablers apologized for their stupidity and perfidy, and resigned in disgrace. Posted by: sherlock at September 06, 2007 04:09 PM (ojW85) 9
Moderate muslims (if there is such a thing) need to step up soon and stop this before the world wakes up and realizes the only way out is another crusade round of self defense.
Posted by: 3rd_Bird at September 06, 2007 04:14 PM (n7SVp) 10
the leading terrorist enablers apologized for their stupidity and perfidy, and resigned in disgrace.
You assume that any of these seditious fucks have a sense of honor or shame. To date, I have yet to see any evidence of such from a single one of them. Posted by: wiserbud at September 06, 2007 04:17 PM (IHbof) 11
Muslims haven't studied European history -- Europe is very tolerant/submissive up to a point -- then Europe commits genocide to eliminate the problem.
The battle for Europe is just beginning. Muslims also want to achieve a 'Spanish Victory' here in the USA. They are going to try an attack the USA in a big way...I just hope we can stop this attack. Posted by: marvin at September 06, 2007 04:18 PM (NBD6m) 12
then Europe commits genocide to eliminate the problem.
They still think the problem is Jews. Europe has new allies, not a new enemy. Posted by: Retired at September 06, 2007 04:25 PM (JLI/R) 13
Muslims also want to achieve a 'Spanish Victory' here in the USA. They are going to try an attack the USA in a big way...I just hope we can stop this attack.
Posted by: 3rd_Bird at September 06, 2007 04:27 PM (n7SVp) 14
You assume that any of these seditious fucks have a sense of honor or shame. To date, I have yet to see any evidence of such from a single one of them. Agreed. But they know how fake it, when they are told to by their party. It is okay for a Dem to be a national security liability, but if they start being perceived as electoral liabilities, they will be thrown under the bus. We have to learn to use the Dems priorities against them, instead of foolishly assuming we can appeal to the ones that we hold, but they only run their mouths about. Posted by: sherlock at September 06, 2007 04:32 PM (ojW85) 15
>>I don't know whether jihadis have enough brains to reason out.... Don't underestimate the enemy, Sherlock. The foot soldiers might be stupid, and incompetent cowards too, but the top echelons are anything but stupid. They may miscalculate, but they learn from it, and adjust their tactics rapidly. Posted by: Tushar D at September 06, 2007 04:33 PM (IlgNp) 16
Tushar, I take your point. It is not so much a matter of intelligence of course, as the ability to temper fanaticism with logic. I have my doubts, given affairs in Iraq. As an aside, the theme of several of the Le Carre's "George Smiley"' stories was the fatal flaw of fanaticism as it affected the Communists, and how Smiley ultimately leveraged it against them.
Posted by: sherlock at September 06, 2007 04:43 PM (ojW85) 17
I'd be happy to let you invade me! I know how you muslims swing. I'll be in the 3rd stall on the left. Posted by: Larry Craig at September 06, 2007 05:06 PM (tcMQZ) 18
You know the best way to deter terrorism is to kill terrorists and every member of their family and tribe. back in the days when Lebanese based jihadis were kidnapping any Euro or American they could for ransom, they took a Russian. The Russians found out who they were, went to their home village and took pics of their families. The Russian got released. Posted by: Jose Cuervo at September 06, 2007 05:06 PM (8s6Iz) 19
No, the Russians abducted the hostage-takers' families, and according to one version of the story, started sending body parts to Hezbollah until they got their people back.
One thing one of my college profs told me was that "centuries under the Mongol yoke put a Asiatic streak of cruelty permanently into Russian DNA". Posted by: SGT Dan at September 06, 2007 06:01 PM (oOQel) 20
Federal counterterrorism officials are analyzing a posting on an
Islamic forum Web site that warns of "a special gift" to be given on
the sixth anniversary of Sept. 11, FOX News has learned.
This is most likely Arab bluster; they like to do that-- strut around, throw their chests out, scream and shout, etc. They're like little boys. Be thankful that the Quran forbids booze. Most likely this is a big bunch of nothing, but like every bomb threat, no matter how implausible, it has to be thoroughly investigated. Posted by: OregonMuse at September 06, 2007 06:11 PM (WTnHh) 21
Two comments: First - the analysis Ace provided is quite faulty. The message is simple: "There will be a gift on the date of the blessed invasion of Manhattan." All this means is ... some audio recording will be released on September 11. It will be old, Osama saying nothing that we haven't heard before, spliced together from old tape. Reason: Osama bin Laden is dead. Muslims believe that September 11, 2001 was "the invasion of Manhattan." That's all that phraseology means. Considering their "invading force" all died in the "invasion" I'm thinking maybe they use this word invasion, but I - Enigo Montoya - do not think it means what they think it means. Second - If Osama was alive, and you were Osama, what would you tell Americans on the anniversary that would best benefit your cause? Well, if it was me, I'd announce the cessation of all hostilities against the United States. I'd announce a ceasefire, and order all jihadis in all Muslim lands to stand down. "My friends," I'd say. "We must be merciful on these people. We have inflicted great pain on them - but Allah orders us to be merciful. And so, I say to you, brothers, lay down your arms and allow our enemy to consider his next course of action. I, your commander, order you to cease all hostile activities until such time as America commits further aggression against Muslims. If America commits any further aggression against Islam, then we shall join again the Jihad. "To American citizens, I say this to you: We mean you no further harm, so long as you mean us no harm, and commit no further aggression against us." Of course, this would be a feint, and only a publicity stunt. Planning and fundraising for the next attack would begi forthwith. Of course, now Osama could deny responsibility for any attacks by either rogue, or actual live cells; and at the same time, hand Democrats what they've been seeking - the neutering of the Republican Party. If al Queda announced a ceasefire, so long as America commits no further aggression against Islam - then the urgency to fight the would vanish overnight. And Hillary Clinton would become President. Hell, she might even pick Osama to be her VP. Posted by: notalawyer at September 06, 2007 07:27 PM (Oj05V) 22
I posted these questions on LGF, and perhaps a second posting is a good idea/ The jihadi website talks about an "invasion of Manhattan" and displays a picture with 11/9 on it. I realize that by 11/9 they are using the European representation for 11 September. But 11/9 in the US means 09 November, and the website does show "11/9", so maybe the site really means 09 November. Is 09 November related to any lunar event or lines up with any historical Muslim event? What about Jewish holidays? Is any event in NYC scheduled for 09 November, or any day close (Veteran’s Day?) ? What about anywhere else in the US, Britain or Europe? It seems an improbable indicator, but 9/11, on 9/10 and before, was not unusual. Posted by: Arbalest at September 07, 2007 12:47 AM (ijjup) 23
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