1

I don't know much about it, but I do know that Niagara Falls, NY is a huge chemical wasteland and it's also one of the areas with the biggest hydro-electric dams in the world.

Love Canal, AFAIK, is a result of hydro-electrical power.

2 If the envirowhackos would let us build some fucking reactors, we could bypass all these problems, but they won't let it happen, so we're stuck with these problems.  They have no one to blame but themsleves.

3 Ditto what Sinistar said.  ITs their own dam(n) fault.

4 Heh. The guy trapped in the ice is also finding out that polar bears are far from endangered...and they can swim too.

5

The people trying to stop the nuclear power plants don't give a shit about the woes of hydroelectric dams. They try to stop those too.

Sure, they say 'build dams' when you want to build a nuke plant. But they also say 'build nuke plants' when you want to build dams. They're just obstructionists.

This is BANANAism. Like NIMBYism, but instead of their back yard, it's Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything.

You can't build windmills next to landfills because you're ruining pristine scenery.

6 The sailor story is almost as good as yesterday's Segway schadenfreude.

7

So ... throughout human history then global warming can be blamed on that most insipid of creatures ... the BEAVER???

1) Beaver creates dam

2) Dam creates lake

3) Lake creates fish

4) Fish fart

5) Planet dies

Thus, we should kill all the beavers.

6) Global warming solved.

In fact, we should kill any animal that has a digestive system, because it's the digestive system that creates methane. So, the world would be a lot better off if those who CLAIM to support Mother Gaia would go ahead and do the right thing.

8 Stupid, self defeating phrase of the day
"but in fact probably"

9 ok, maybe a dumb question, didnt feel like reading the research, but dont plants and fish die and release methane anywhere water is, or do dams promote ecosystems, thus creating more fish/plants? (and wouldnt this be a good thing as far as enviromentalists are concerned?) if dams dont add to fish/plant pop. then wouldnt their corpses rot elsewhere producing the same amount of methane?   or did i totally miss something here?

10 There's a *reason* Tom Clancy wrote "Rainbow Six".  These envirotards are it.

11

Oooh, "but in fact probably". Good phrase.

Some animals, like such as beavers and otters like such as, seem environmentally friendly but in fact probably are destroying the earth and the asian countries.

12 or did i totally miss something here?

You missed the fact that without dams, fish would live forever.

13

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to here it, does it still destroy the ecosystem?

It's the freakin Copenhagen Interpretation of Environmental Sciences.

14 The only solution is to depopulate the planet. You first.

15 Are these the same asshats that wanted to stick catalytic converters up cows' asses? I wonder how thats working out for them. "Hello sir, I'm from the IRN, we'd like to fit your herds sphincters for methane abate devices".  Then your just hear the .12 guage pump cycling 1 into the chamber, while the farmer screams, "get outta here, fuckin' pervert". End of story.

16

It looks like not only is *everything* bad for you, but now *everything* causes global warming.

I presume that everything-- includuding toothpaste- also causes cavities.

Like such as therefore.

17

'Save the Planet, Buy New Soylent Green

New Soylent Green is rotting vegetation and fish packed into yummy, healthy bar-sized goodness.  And it tastes just like Original Soylent Green, which is people.

New Soylent Green, in the EcoFriendly section your local Grocers.'

18 Since you brought up fish, anyone see that documentary on sharks called Air Jaws? It's shark vs. seal and I'm rooting for the seal. The little guy jumped, turned, spinned, even with a  12" by 4" deep gash. The researchers finally gave the seal a hand and took him inland.

19

Can we get a list of things that do NOT cause global warming as I'm sure that's a much shorter list?

I'll start:

Bad Acting

Hugging kitties and puppies

Shopping at World Market

Being a Democrat

Having an abortion

20 Seals giving Great Whites a run for their money -- definitely increases GW.

21 Flying on private jets to speak about global warming (its magic!)

22

Entropy,

You have the Miss Teen South Carolina thing down.  I will never tire of that bit.

23

Things that do not cause Global Warming:

-Che Guevara T-Shirts

-Kerry-Edwards Bumper Stickers

-Private Jet flights by Al Gore, Laurie David, Leonardo De Cappucino etc

-Starbucks Venti Soy Lattes. (WTF is Venti?)

-Organic Food Stores

-Smelly Hippies. Their smelly fumes act as a insulator against sun's harmful rays.

24 Beaver causes global warming.....in my pants

25

Rosetta,

you funny.

 

But seriously, don't fuck with Entropy.

26 #23

"Venti" is Italian for "twenty".  The Venti size at Starbucks is 20oz.  That's how I remember it.

27

What if....the earth itself is causing global warming?!!

28

>>What if....the earth itself is causing global warming?!!

Then we will have to nuke and destroy Earth, to prevent it from destroying itself. But nukes may cause harmful pollution. So we must destroy Earth with love.

29 I never drink water, fish fuck in it.

30 You know, I think the sun causes more global warming than anything.  What do Al Gore and Jane Edwards plan to do about that?

31 Love Canal was the result of a busybody government who in the guise of a out of control Board of Education seized land that the company who owned it begged them not to use. The B of E then scraped 3 feet of clay cap off the top of the landfill, RAN A SEWER THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT, and then sold off the remainder of the land to developers, who built houses with BASEMENTS on it, further breaching the containment of the secure landfill.

The Love Canal landfill would still be secure today if the B of E had listened to the owner of the land, and/or then kept their promises on proper use of the land.

It was not hydroelectric power, nor greedy corporations that created Love Canal, it was Your Government At Work.

32 I think a lot of chemical plants and chemical-using industrial factories sprung up around the early hydroelectric dams, because they wanted access to the juice.

Are you sure Love Canal was due to a dam per se?  Or was it due to the industry that sprung up nearby?

33 Well, dam me all the way to Mexico. Who knew?

34  This article

http://www.scitizen.com/screens/blogPage/viewBlog/sw_viewBlog.php?idTheme=14&idContribution=298

says one dam in South American releases more greenhouse gas than Sao Paulo. (population  11 million)

35

http://www.imadethislinkup.com/yourfaultifitwontopen.php

1 suv releases more greenhouse gas then 15 Mt. St. Helen erruptions.

36

What a load of hooey! The earth is 2/3 covered with water, yes?

How will a few thousand square miles (at absolute most) make a big difference to the millions of square miles of open water that already exists?

Zero! Zilch! Less than nothing.

Plus the reflective surface of the water sends hot solar light back into space, thus preventing global warming! Dammit!

37 Global Warming is caused by climate scientists who think they have come up with the perfect pick-up line to use on young co-eds.

38 Smelly Hippies. Their smelly fumes act as a insulator against sun's harmful rays

Plus, the hideous smell offsets all the cow farts and moose farts.  It's win-win!

39 We'd better take off and nuke it from space.
It's the only way to be sure.

40 These eco-tards are s-o-o-o-o-o tiresome.

41

probably all reservoirs around the world emit greenhouse gases and some of them, especially some of the ones in the tropics, emit very high quantities of greenhouse gases

Do the oceans qualify as reservoirs? If so, we probably need to drain them.

42 Maybe that's what Rove was trying to do when he flooded Nawlins. Maybe he was trying to drain the Gulf in order to reduce the methane output. Who new that the magnificent bastard was so green?

43

The Love Canal neighborhood is inside Niagra Falls NY that area between Read on the north and Frontier on the south.

It wasn't dammed up per se, but wasn't used much as an actual canal either.

Basically, from 1920 til 1953 everybody and their dog trahsed mega-tons of chemicals & crapola, in a dump-site beside the canal, then covered both with dirt & sold it.

Things got so out of hand that Jimmie (The Anti-Semite) Carter had to actually step in to help these families, since NY State was happy "studying the situation" and refused to evacuate them.

Wiki entry doesn't mention the fire, but I'm reasonably sure the "water" in the Love Canal actually burned for several days.

Another, better breif recounting of the story says the canal used to catch fire, before it was filled in 1953, prior to being sold.

My tail is still all puffy, stupid goddam eco-hippies! Don't give a shit that poor white folks are used as non-volunteer lab-rats, but some stoopid spurwing plover gets millions in "funds" to protect it. Spotted owls are nice, crunchy! Mmmm

44

No surprise.  They pulled some crap a while back saying how solar panels in the desert were bad for the environment.

45 #43 5cats,

The reason that New York State wouldn't do anything about the Love Canal disaster is because they caused it.

The locals all know the true story.

As far as wikipaedia is concerned, don't believe everything you read.

46 he reason that New York State wouldn't do anything about the Love Canal disaster is because they caused it.

Specifically, the Board of Education insisted on getting the land, even though eminent domain. Hooker had refused to sell precisely because it was hazardous, until threatened with E.D. Hooker sold it for a token amount under the condition that the dangers were spelled out:

Prior to the delivery of this instrument of conveyance, the grantee herein has been advised by the grantor that the premises above described have been filled, in whole or in part, to the present grade level thereof with waste products resulting from the manufacturing of chemicals by the grantor at its plant in the City of Niagara Falls, New York, and the grantee assumes all risk and liability incident to the use thereof. It is therefore understood and agreed that, as a part of the consideration for this conveyance and as a condition thereof, no claim, suit, action or demand of any nature whatsoever shall ever be made by the grantee, its successors or assigns, against the grantor, its successors or assigns, for injury to a person or persons, including death resulting therefrom, or loss of or damage to property caused by, in connection with or by reason of the presence of said industrial wastes. It is further agreed as a condition hereof that each subsequent conveyance of the aforesaid lands shall be made subject to the foregoing provisions and conditions

And what did the School Board do, in it's infinite wisdom knowing the dangers? Why build a school (the 99th St school) and started digging around the site to put in sewers etc, breaking though the containment clay cap.

47

...As far as wikipaedia is concerned

Well yeah, Wiki gets close enough to the topic to allow some understanding, I think. That's why I looked around for other sources too. I just have a quick look-see at Wiki if I'm too lazy (or uncaring) to hunt for better sources.

...is because they caused it.

Also that's exactly what many people thought at the time. They were test subjects that were highly expendable, not citizens who desreved protection. Pregnant ladies and children under 2 were evacuated? But I suppose a 3 year-old or an 83 year-old were perfectly safe and could remain? Um, it stinks of cover-up, or ass-covering. One of those.

It always amazes (but rarely surprises) me that even lower-level bureaucrats will actually allow people to suffer or die than admit responsability.

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