“Mexico does not end at its borders."
That’s not the ravings of an open borders advocate like Geraldo Rivera or your average La Raza member. No, that’s Mexican President Felipe Calderon during his first state of the nation speech today.
We strongly protest the unilateral measures taken by the U.S. Congress and government that have only persecuted and exacerbated the mistreatment of Mexican undocumented workers," he said. "The insensitivity toward those who support the U.S. economy and society has only served as an impetus to reinforce the battle ... for their rights." He also reached out to the millions of Mexicans living in the United States, many illegally, saying: "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico."In the last few years my position on immigration has gone from ‘secure the borders and I guess some sort of amnesty is okay’ camp to ‘secure the borders and we’ll deal with it through attrition’. But garbage like this? This is the kind of talk that pushes people into the ‘round ‘em up’ and kick their asses out’ camp. One thing you can almost always count on the left to do is overplay their hands. I hope teh Fred! and every other major Republican candidate beats the drum on this stuff. The left can cry about ‘wedge issues’ and ‘racism’ but there’s a lot of votes to be won, not by being anit-immigrant but pro-American. *Cleaned up two typos
1 If they're not careful the majority will get really snippy about this sort of shit.
Really. Fucking. Snippy.
Posted by: Nom de Blog at September 02, 2007 10:46 PM (EkG0f)
2 "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico." Yep! Everywhere but IN Mexico where only the upper middle classes andhigher get health care, where the place is a blatant oligarchy run by the rich and for the rich, where the police are for the most part crooked, where corruption is a way of life and on and on and on.Calderone is so full of c--p he can be smelled all the way up here. And Bush puts on his hand woven Mexican blinders and refuses to see it. Or, put another way: If everywhere there is a Mexican, there is Mexico---May the good Lord save us from that fate!!
Posted by: JEANIE at September 02, 2007 10:47 PM (Q9bFi)
3 "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico."
Meaning, "the number 2 revenue source in Mexican economy is Western Union wire transfers from USA, and it's convenient for me to blame our greed on you gringos which is why 1 in 10 of our citizens want to escape poverty"
Posted by: Jose Cuervo at September 02, 2007 10:50 PM (8s6Iz)
4 "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico."
That sounds like a declaration of war to me.
Posted by: Glenn B at September 02, 2007 10:53 PM (xLhXa)
5 Yep, the neighborhoods in Nashville where my folks still live can
attest to that statement by Calderon. Everywhere the Hispanics
have taken over there are boarded-up stores, trashed yards, cars up on
concrete blocks and lots of signage in Spanish--looks a lot like
pictures I've seen of Mexican neighborhoods. And WalMarts here in
Tennessee are now featuring whole ranks of DVD's of Mexican movies,
CD's of Mexican music, which, now that I think about it, is a weird mix
along with all the substandard Chinese-made merchandise.
Posted by: buffalo woman at September 02, 2007 10:53 PM (se9a1)
6 Can you imagine the response if an American president said that?
The world's entireLeft would scream, "Colonialism! Imperialism!"
They might even throw in, "Zionism!" You know, for good measure.
Posted by: Bart at September 02, 2007 10:55 PM (fSPDf)
7 "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico."
That sounds like a declaration of war to me.
You sir are exactly right.
Posted by: 1sttofight at September 02, 2007 11:14 PM (gs87a)
8 The scary thing is that this was the LESS moonbatty candidate.
(Obrador is truly on the unhinged left.)
Posted by: someone at September 02, 2007 11:14 PM (LS1TS)
9 I said it before: I wonder if we would have been better off if the Leftwing douche won the Mexicanelection.
I think we would.
Posted by: Bart at September 02, 2007 11:16 PM (fSPDf)
10 Drew, I'm curious to know what you mean by 'secure the borders and we’ll deal with it through attrition'.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 02, 2007 11:20 PM (1Ug6U)
11 I'll take a stab, Gabriel:
When we secure the borders and start prosecuting companies for hiring the illegal invaders, they will leave voluntarily.
Posted by: Bart at September 02, 2007 11:26 PM (fSPDf)
The idea is if you make it tough for people to get jobs, access services and just unpleasant to be here illegally, the incentives to stay will disappear and illegals will head home on their own.
Attrition may not be the precisely correct term but it's one that is used by many to describe that process.
Posted by: Drew at September 02, 2007 11:26 PM (hlYel)
13 And/or we'll deport them as soon as they cross paths with law enforcement, for whatever reason.
Posted by: Bart at September 02, 2007 11:27 PM (fSPDf)
14 'secure the borders and we’ll deal with it through attrition'.
No, he said secure the boarders and we'll deal with it through attrition.
So, uh, I think it means if you have people stay the night at your house and they pay you, you need to make them feel safesuch as, and thenyou have to go to confession or something like that.
Posted by: stupid pageant girl at September 02, 2007 11:31 PM (Tbl5c)
15 perhaps we need to do something drastic, like...actually close the border to illegal crossers...just saying.....
Posted by: Frank G at September 02, 2007 11:37 PM (Ydps9)
16 Just for that, Felipe Calderon is now the latest inductee into the Footy Umpire Hall of Fame!
Posted by: Macker at September 02, 2007 11:42 PM (mg72A)
17 Wow is someone speaking from that rathole to the south. Hey how about the mistreatment of Mexicans in Mexico? Maybe if Calderon worried more about the Mexicans in there would be less in the United States.
We seriously need a president that will tell Mexico to fuck off. Our new president needs to explain that we dictate our relationship with Mexico not the opposite. And if they don't like it, we can get the military to round up the 10 million Mexicans here and ship back right away. I think Mexico will understand its place. If we explain to them the facts of life and quit acting like a bunch of wimps, they will shut up.
Posted by: geb4000 at September 02, 2007 11:42 PM (Lp1aG)
18 From Pilgrim at Hotair comments
Don’t know if he said “it’s on” but I’m all but certain he just cancelled the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo. Particularly Article V containing:
The boundary line established by this article shall be religiously respected by each of the two republics, and no change shall ever be made therein, except by the express and free consent of both nations, lawfully given by the General Government of each, in conformity with its own constitution.
Posted by: mbruce at September 02, 2007 11:51 PM (LLCm9)
19 "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico."
Sounds like hegemony to me.
"Where there is a(n) Mexican American, there is Mexico America." Let an American president utter those words and every leftist in the world would shit poodles.
Posted by: Sticky B at September 02, 2007 11:53 PM (wkjFE)
20 Seen on a bumper sticker today (western Houston): sua vota es su voz. It was nonstandard Spanish in that the slogan I'm seeing in Googleis su voto es su voz, but then the Hispanics around here aren't hopping off the plane from Madrid.
Perhaps we should just be thankful the slogan wasn't in Nahuatl hieroglyphs, with a picture of a bleeding human heart for emphasis.
The use of aforeign language in organising political power is a threat to the native, non-Spanish-speakingpopulation.
Posted by: David Ross at September 02, 2007 11:55 PM (fOXng)
21 I guess he could mean that their government would stand up for their citizen's rights in a foreign country, i.e. our embassy on very rare occasions helps people out legally (usually its "here's a list of local lawyers. Good luck.")
Also, note that previously Mexicans living abroad couldn't vote in Mexican elections. Now they can - so he has to pander.
Posted by: Aaron at September 03, 2007 12:10 AM (3kDfM)
22 The obvious solution to this and all related problems...
... annex Mexico.
Posted by: Synova at September 03, 2007 12:23 AM (8HO37)
23 The obvious solution to this and all related problems...... annex Mexico.
where the hell have you been, son? we already have, thanks to the glorious policies of jorge arbusto. or rather, it's annexed us.
viva la raza!
Posted by: jdub at September 03, 2007 12:29 AM (XNRdS)
24 We know that the Mexican government is helping their people cross, but even so it seems pretty brassy for president Calderon to be make such a statement.
Posted by: stace at September 03, 2007 12:29 AM (A56/D)
25 Republicans? Halt the flood of illegals? Teh Fred?
What eff'n planet do you live on ?....cause here on planet Earth (instance #1791/b-lulz)... it ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: 13times at September 03, 2007 12:33 AM (sQGYU)
26 If it's so "oppressive" here, why do they keep coming in droves? Maybe it's a lot more oppressive in the socialist workers' paradise of Mexico. Maybe if we make it more "oppressive" for them, they will self-deport. Thanks for the clue.
Posted by: robert108 at September 03, 2007 12:36 AM (Nvad4)
"... annex Mexico."
Last thing I would ever want is Mexico.
Well, besides Iraq or any other assorted shitty Middle Eastern country...oops.
Posted by: MlR at September 03, 2007 01:10 AM (mX6h5)
28 How about we just copy the Mexican government's own laws concerning illegal immigration, working without a permit, overstaying visas, etc. And ENFORCE them.
There would be a mass exodus of illegals within a week of our government crackdown.
Posted by: Texas Nick 77 at September 03, 2007 01:12 AM (zpvsA)
29 It is such a good thing that "insensitivity" is not a legal qualification - yet. Calderon, blow it out your posterior. If you would stop the graft, develop some sort of intelligence, then you wouldn't have to sponge off the USA. My sovereign nation owes you no quarter. When your "agents" tried to strongarm the US politicians into removing the borders - there was almost an uprising. Got the hint yet?
Posted by: sovereign at September 03, 2007 01:49 AM (ZYOxe)
30 Note to Jerry - er Giraldo. I laughed my ass off when those skinheads broke your nose. Sorry dude, no military positions to give away here (even if there were, you are to much of a pussy to go anywhere near them). By the way, the Young Lords were a Puerto Rican gang. I suppose there is no difference between you supporting them and the "illegals" from Mexico.
By the way, because someone does not agree with you does not make them wrong, a racist, a homophobe, or someone to spit on.
You are the leading asshole in this country.
For background look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldo_Rivera, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Lords
Posted by: sovereign at September 03, 2007 02:00 AM (ZYOxe)
31 Alas, the leftist MSM now feels that Rove was right, at least about "immigration".
Posted by: Dr. Remulak at September 03, 2007 03:52 AM (YXdrz)
32 "Where there is aMexican, there is Mexico.""Where there is an American, there is America.""Where there is a Canadian, there is beer drinking and street hockey.""Where there is a Mexican illegally in America, there is Geraldo kissing his Illegal Alienhood.""Where there is a Mexican American, you don't want to go there because there lay accusations of bigotry and stereotyping," which I don't get because I listen to my stereo all the time when I 'm typing.
Posted by: Yr. Fthfl. Svnt. at September 03, 2007 05:02 AM (l6Vcx)
33 Where there is a Michelle Malkin, there is a Geraldo on a bullet-train to Discredited Bigotville.
Posted by: Yr. Fthfl. Svnt. at September 03, 2007 05:09 AM (l6Vcx)
34 The scary thing is that this was the LESS moonbatty candidate.(Obrador is truly on the unhinged left.)
Yes, but Obrador opposed emmigration.
Posted by: Entropy at September 03, 2007 09:08 AM (HgAV0)
35 Calderon should put his money where his mouth is and appoint Elvira as the new ambassador from Mexico. That way we can bring it to a head, refuse to allow her in, and severe all diplomatic ties with Mexico.
Posted by: dave at September 03, 2007 10:15 AM (2iOCm)
36 I say, "Where there is a Texan, there is San Jacinto."
Posted by: Big Daddy at September 03, 2007 11:37 AM (YI/Ue)
37 Looks like it's time for the Second Mexican-American War.
For the lawyer-types out there, what would be the practical difference between annexing Mexico and just going in and kicking the ever-living shit out of them, leaving behind enough devastation that they might actually notice amid the corruption, rampant KR (kidnap ransom), and drug murders, then coming home to let the Mexican people figure out what the hell just happened?
And who gets to be the new John Joseph "Black Jack" Pershing?
Posted by: Drumwaster at September 03, 2007 12:37 PM (JxTHJ)
38 The practical difference is that we break it and don't buy it, because it isn't our responsibility.
Posted by: MlR at September 03, 2007 12:42 PM (mX6h5)
39 Well, since much of Southern California is now a third world shit-hole, he may actually be right.
I get so pissed off about illegal immigration, I think I know what it feels like to have Bush Derangement Syndrome.
Posted by: Terry at September 03, 2007 01:48 PM (/Soh5)
40 They're just outsourcing their poor to a more generous entitlement system.
Posted by: Warden at September 03, 2007 02:31 PM (rZ5uY)
41 “Mexico does not end at its borders."
Maybe, but it does end at mine. That wall can't go up fast enough.
Posted by: VRWC Agent at September 03, 2007 03:07 PM (Z3AmO)
42 Well, Mexican sewage doesn't end at its borders
Mar 21,2007Sewage proposal endorsed in Mexico; U.S. would pay for Tijuana plantby Sandra DibbleTIJUANA, Mexico - It would be the biggest sewage treatment plant thecity has seen, and it wouldn't cost Mexico a penny.Won over by the possibility of free sewage treatment and the prospectof a vast supply of recycled water, high-level Mexican officials areopenly endorsing a binational plant promoted by a San Marcos, Calif.,company.Though set in Tijuana, the $170 million facility would be funded byU.S. taxpayers. Mexican officials have said they lack theinfrastructure and other resources to handle sewage that flows fromTijuana to San Ysidro and Imperial Beach, Calif., via the TijuanaRiver..........
Bajagua plans to use private financing to build and operate the plant.In 2004, the Congressional Budget Office estimated the total cost tobe about $600 million over two decades. The U.S. government wouldrepay the company in installments over 20 years, after which the plantwould be turned over to Baja California.Tijuana's sewage contamination problems require a variety of measures,said Jose Luis Castro, a researcher at the Colegio de la FronteraNorte. Bajagua could be part of the solution, Castro said, but thecity still needs to build more drainage systems to capture runoff.Having "a supply of water treated to a secondary level is veryimportant for Tijuana, ... but the city needs the resources so thatusers can access that water," Castro said.U.S. detractors have criticized the International Boundary and WaterCommission's no-bid contracting process, the lack of a finalized siteand Bajagua's lack of experience in building sewage treatment plants.They say the project doesn't address a major cause of cross-bordereffluent that pollutes San Diego beaches: the unconnected sewage thatruns down across the border from impoverished Tijuana neighborhoods.
Posted by: funky chicken at September 03, 2007 04:04 PM (I+jPP)
43 #30 Sovereign, I saw a replay of the skinhead bending a folding chair over Macho Man Geraldo's head. This was way back in Geraldo's trash TV days, where he instigates a race brawl. Real class
Geraldo is a pimp. What a pleasure to see him get his ass kicked.
Posted by: Mark at September 03, 2007 06:42 PM (AUvbM)
44 Substitute "German" and "Germany" for "Mexican" and "Mexico"...
Posted by: Scotian at September 03, 2007 06:47 PM (/UfWL)
45 Yeah, Scotian, I was thinkin' the same thing.
Didn't Mexico offer to play along with the Nazis? Maybe they had a little cultural exchange thing going on there.
We tend to forget that 99% of people throughout history lived under grinding oppression, and at leasta good 90% have been assholes.
If half of the people here in the US are assholes, we're practically living in a Golden Age. We have these neighbors to remind us, I guess, of what the alternative is.
And we have Liberals to try to make the alternative happen, I guess.
Posted by: Merovign at September 04, 2007 02:58 AM (IaYDo)
46 To be fair, it was the Kaiser that they were thinking about playing along with. (ie. Zimmermann Telegram)
Posted by: Techie at September 04, 2007 09:53 AM (T+8Gr)
47 <quote>This is the kind of talk that pushes people into the ‘round ‘em up’ and kick their asses out’ camp.</quote>
I oncewas compasionate. But I've been in the ‘round ‘em up’ and kick their asses out’ camp since i saw this.
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An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)