NJ Claims To Reverse Sanctuary Policy; Geraldo's Mustache Cries

The two aren't really related except they're in the same post.

Can anyone actually mount some sort of defensible argument as to why those picked up for fairly major crimes should not have their immigration status looked into? Even if you buy the whole "most immigrants are hardworking people who we owe our very existence to" line of argument, quite obviously chronic drunk drivers, killers, and rapists are not among those hardworking immigrants with good family values, so I'm a bit at a loss as to why it's so imperative we not "chill" their desire to come to America to kill people.

As for NJ's reversal: I doubt it. State troopers might abide by the new policy (which is doubt is a real policy anyway, and is mostly PR), but city police? Who depend upon the mayor's good graces? I'm not sure the state AG has the power to order cops employed by the city to do this or do that, but even assuming they do have that power, the mayor's policy will be the prevailing one, as the mayor and his hand-picked chief of police actually write the checks.

It's one thing to issue an order like this; it's a whole different thing to enforce it. Enforcing it would require suing mayors -- writs of mandamus, I think: judicial orders to actually do their jobs -- which I doubt that the cozy and corrupt Democratic machine politics of NJ will permit.

And how long would that take, even if anyone had the balls to do it? It would take several years of demonstrable, flagrant noncompliance by local cops to even have a basis for the suit, and then years of actual litigation. And further any local police department which didn't want to comply could just "comply" in a bullshit way, by simply asking people if they're legal or not and claiming that constitutes compliance with the order.

The sanctuary city policy is due to a loophole in federal law, and that loophole needs to be plugged. Immediately.

Meanwhile the Rosa Parks of Undocumented Americans is speaking out, which is actually a good thing, because she's an arrogant and entitled little cuss who thinks Americans are morally compelled to change their laws to suit her needs.

Posted by: Ace at 01:39 PM

Comments

1 Those aren't tears coming out of Geraldo's moutsache...

Posted by: zetetic at August 23, 2007 01:42 PM (L+e/N)

2 Or his moustache even.

Posted by: zetetic at August 23, 2007 01:43 PM (L+e/N)

3 ewwwwwww

Posted by: Paulitics at August 23, 2007 01:50 PM (47+Ys)

4 Love the "arrogant and entitled little bitch" line.

Sums up my thoughts exactly.

Posted by: H2U at August 23, 2007 01:56 PM (TZKUw)

She is just a copy of Cindy Sheehan, only set to "darker than original"

Posted by: Gordon at August 23, 2007 02:13 PM (Hkq29)

6 Well, it's a slippery slope.

If you start checking on the immigration status of murderers, next thing you know they'll be looking at attempted murderers, then armed robbers and bank heisters.

Same thing with child molesters, if you start looking at them before you know it innocent rapists, flashers, and even peeping toms will fall under suspicion.

Where does it all stop ?

Posted by: cdeegan at August 23, 2007 02:14 PM (h8Mjb)

7 If Arellano were an American down in Mexico meddling in internal Mexican politics, the Mexican constitution authorizes the Mexican president to immediately deport her without appeal on just his say so.

What's that word for how the US acts WRT foreigners meddling in our internal politics? Let me think... Ah yes... Here it is..."SUCKERS"

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 23, 2007 02:18 PM (5KwlV)

Bolton's stash vs. Geraldo's.

FIGHT!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: EC at August 23, 2007 02:20 PM (mAhn3)

9 The "defensible argument" currently is simply economic: If state law enforcement officially identifies an arrestee as an illegal alien, then the state is required to jump through all sorts of expensive legal and procedural hoops, with no funding to cover it.
The solution is butt-simple. Our experience with federal funding for local schools with "special needs" students is instructive -- their reported numbers skyrocketed. If the feds were required to reimburse the states for the extra costs of dealing correctly with illegals, then (1) the states - overnight - would become much more vigilant in identifying them, and (2) faced with this hit the their purse, the feds would become much more interested in border enforcement.

Posted by: quiggs at August 23, 2007 02:21 PM (TGXr3)

10 (which is doubt is a real policy anyway, and is mostly PR)

Who wrote this post, Marques Slocum?

Posted by: el greco at August 23, 2007 02:27 PM (lxb4k)

11 The original argument for 'Sanctuary Cities' was so that 'the ghetto' wouldn't fear the police - and would actually call them instead of enacting vigilante justice.

Illegal store owner is robbed. The police prefer it when you call them and tell them about it, as opposed to rounding up a posse and dealing with it. Witnesses to crimes also evaporate.

I have no idea how it migrated from "don't ask the accuser/victim/witness" to "don't ask the perp."

Posted by: Al at August 23, 2007 02:28 PM (Lk931)

Her son can legally bring her back when he turns 18.

Oh ,joy!

Posted by: captkidney at August 23, 2007 02:39 PM (iB5cn)

quiggs

you are a genius!

Posted by: Tushar D at August 23, 2007 02:41 PM (IlgNp)

Did you notice the Mexican idiot is pregnant again?

Posted by: Dogstar at August 23, 2007 02:45 PM (FgxdU)

15 Stealth edit, Ace?

Bitch turned into cuss -- are you getting soft on us?

Posted by: H2U at August 23, 2007 02:53 PM (TZKUw)

16 Again: Every city playing the 'sanctuary city' game should have EVERY PENNY of federal money it receives suspended. Immediatelty.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 23, 2007 03:14 PM (SpVRp)

17 yeah, thought better of calling her a bitch.

Posted by: ace at August 23, 2007 03:18 PM (1UCRY)

When Congress returns, the Republicans should immediately introduce legislation to forbid any jurisdiction from being a "sanctuary" city, county, or whatever. All local and state law enforcement should then be required to cooperate with the feds in enforcing immigration. This will do two things:

1. Keep the ACLU from suing local cops with their claim that enforcement is a federal matter, and

2. Force the Democrats, going into an election year, to defend "sanctuary" cities, and tell the American people that illegals should not be bothered while illegally here.

Let's see how that plays out in Nov 2008.

Posted by: Scott at August 23, 2007 03:22 PM (lU7xx)

19 Scott, I think your proposed legislation would need to involve some pretty careful drafting to avoid running afoul of the Tenth Amendment prohibition on "commandeering" state and local officials to enforce federal regulations. It could probably only be accomplished through use of the spending power, and there may even be some troublesome wrinkles to that approach.

I don't have time to research it in depth, but does anyone have a quick link or cite to a good analysis of the Tenth Amendment issue vis-a-vis state & local enforcement of immigration laws?

Posted by: Alex at August 23, 2007 03:57 PM (fgyj8)

Scott, I think your proposed legislation would need to involve some pretty careful drafting to avoid running afoul of the Tenth Amendment prohibition on "commandeering" state and local officials to enforce federal regulations.

Tell it to MADD, .008.

Posted by: toby928 at August 23, 2007 04:09 PM (evdj2)

21 Toby, exactly my point. The nationwide BAC limits were accomplished through use of the spending power -- i.e., the feds said they would make highway funds available only to states that passed .08 BAC limit laws at the state level. Which is allowable. However, that's a different issue, constitutionally speaking, than the feds requiring state & local authorities to use their resources to enforce federal laws.

What would be required in the immigration case would be attaching conditions to federal spending along the same lines, such as making federal monetary assistance to state & local police departments contingent on something like checking immigration status of arrestees and reporting violations thus found to the feds. The question is whether even that reporting requirement would violate the no-commandeering rule, or whether that rule would be satisfied by the feds' designating some of those funds to cover the expenses incurred by said state & local law enforcement agencies.

Posted by: Alex at August 23, 2007 04:33 PM (fgyj8)

22 Put Corzine back in that SUV and make him drive the NJ Turnpike at 90mph, beltless, for the rest of his term.

Posted by: ricpic at August 23, 2007 05:07 PM (0FRi9)

23 John Bolton's mustache once had a one night stand with a mexican merkin.

The result was Geraldo's mustache.

Posted by: Hal at August 23, 2007 05:11 PM (GtsnN)

24 The local street cops are - as usual - caught in the middle.

Typically, officers would be instructed to focus their attention on "certain" offenses the local politicos deemed important ... and ... ahem ... "overlook" those they do NOT. Nothing on paper, of course, just the usual "between you and me" type deal.

Don't fall into lockstep with the program and you find yourself catching every shit detail the bosses can find, for as long as it takes to make a believer out of you.

So the brass are covered ("We never told them not to arrest these people!") since there is no paper trail, and the politicos likewise. happens ALL the time, and will continue to happen until the Commissioner or Chief position is filled by election. An appointed Chief/PC will always do the bidding of the Mayor since he wants to keep that cushy job at least until another better gig appears. Police managers get their tickets punched the same way military officers do - with the same kind of results.

Posted by: Bruce at August 23, 2007 07:52 PM (2q+Ss)

25 Ace was right the first time. She is a bitch. She is a mother only in the tradition of Mother Sheehan and Ma Clinton. IOW, a cold, calculating, opportunist who uses her child as a tool.
Mommy dearest cries about family breakups. Then she leaves her child behind in the US with radical wierdos. At best, the dearly beloved child is an anchor and bargaining chip. At worst, he's yesterday's newspaper.
It's scary to even imagine a woman like this w/ an airport job, selling her services to the highest bidder.

Posted by: ladyblogger at August 23, 2007 11:13 PM (A+/Um)

26 Here's a relevant case from South Jersey. Looks like the ACLU did what it does best, it forced a small town to reverse it's anti-illegal law by outspending them.

Posted by: Dr. Remulak at August 23, 2007 11:42 PM (d9Xps)

27 Ooops. The link:

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20070823_Riverside_Twp__repeals_illegal-immigrant_law.html

Posted by: Dr. Remulak at August 23, 2007 11:42 PM (d9Xps)

28 "Meanwhile the Rosa Parks of Undocumented Americans is speaking out, which is actually a good thing, because she's an arrogant and entitled little cuss who thinks Americans are morally compelled to change their laws to suit her needs." I think you misspelled "cunt" here.

Posted by: Contributor X at August 24, 2007 04:36 AM (+Pfib)

The question is whether even that reporting requirement would violate the no-commandeering rule

I don't think that it would. Perhaps the 55 mph speed limit is a better example. Clearly the Feds forced the states to use their own policing resources to enforce a Fedeeral requirement.

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