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FBI Puts Out Bulletin To ID Men Suspected Of "Probing" WA Ferry Security; Seattle P-I Refuses To Run Picture

What a surprise on that last bit.

If you're in Washington, look out for these good ol' boys. They may be up to no good, and not the funny kind of no good like them Duke Boys.

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Of course they also might just be guys particularly interested in videotaping ferries, but the FBI would still like to ask them about that.

Groups of men, including one tied to a federal terrorism investigation, have videotaped Washington ferry operations, prompting federal authorities to conclude the system has been under surveillance as a possible target for an attack.

U.S. Attorney John McKay, officials in the U.S. Coast Guard and other members of Seattle’s Joint Terrorism Task Force all share in that conclusion.

“We may well be the target of preoperational terrorist planning,” McKay said.

Go to Michelle's link to read the Seattle P-I's excuse for not running the photo. Remember, these are the people who favor a law enforcement approach to fighting terror, and are very, very upset when government officials aren't able to "connect the dots" in order to anticipate an attack.

Once again I note I have contacted the FBI about them creating a simple bit of code that would rotate pictures of men wanted in terror probes or fugitives generally, so that thousands of willing blogs could post a constantly-viewed electronic post office wanted wall.

They'll get back to me, apparently.

Do these nitwits realize that blogs collectively reach far more people in Washington than the Seattle P-I?

Posted by: Ace at 02:12 PM



Comments

1

No wonder Seattle Post Intelligencer (Intelligent as a post!) refused to run the photo.

The first one looks like a Scott-Irish to me. The second one is definitely Nordic. They don't want to unfairly profile.

Posted by: Tushar D at August 21, 2007 02:22 PM (IlgNp)

2 Looks like an old Wham! album cover.

I'm not gay.

Posted by: wiserbud at August 21, 2007 02:22 PM (wWwJR)

3

Tushar,

You're wrong.  They both look Korean to me.

Posted by: EC at August 21, 2007 02:24 PM (mAhn3)

4

OT:

Sinistar posted this piece by one of persons that cheered in the Seattle Times newsroom. It is a half-hearted mea-culpa.

But she does attack bloggers and kind of blame them for her behaviour:

The hallowed halls of journalism that I was privileged to enter more than 20 years ago are looking more and more like the New York subway. The walls covered in bloggers' scrawl, the platform crowded with any yahoo with a camera and an open mike.

Posted by: Tushar D at August 21, 2007 02:26 PM (IlgNp)

5 We keep focusing our blog attention on our Southern border regard to terrorists entering our country.  I'm more concerned with their attempts to enter through our Northern border.  The where the millenium bomber was stopped, the Windsor tunnel which connects to the largest concentration of our Muslim population, The Buffalo Five,  our first muslim congressman from MN and this incident.  All have a common thread and that is they are northern border states.

Posted by: polynikes at August 21, 2007 02:28 PM (m2CN7)

6 Just scouting locationgs for next years wacky hit, Harold and Kumar go to White Castle (And Blow It Up).

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at August 21, 2007 02:28 PM (WTn2v)

7 Once again I note I have contacted the FBI about them creating a simple bit of code that would rotate pictures of men wanted in terror probes or fugitives generally, so that thousands of willing blogs could post a constantly-viewed electronic post office wanted wall.

Is there a congressman who can be approached to act as an intermediary and get this idea in motion?

Posted by: My Schwanz Is Alive! at August 21, 2007 02:28 PM (Dufys)

8 "Is there a congressman who can be approached to act as an intermediary and get this idea in motion?"

Ask Jack M.

Posted by: someone at August 21, 2007 02:32 PM (LS1TS)

9 The Seattle P-I is not publishing the photos because neither man is considered a suspect nor has either been charged with a crime.

Of course neither was Mohamed Atta or any of the other 9/11 hijackers on 9/10/01. Now, that's not to say that these two guys are anything but two guys on a ferry. What we do know is, law enforcement cannot 'connect the dots' before an attack if they don't have the damn dots.

I am so fucking sick and tired of 'journalists' thinking they are above the simple obligations of citizenship.  The 1st Amendment is a lot more limited than they act like it is. It is not a license to receive stolen material (like classified reports) and it is not a license to obstruct justice (by failing to testify at trials). It's time we remind them of these basic facts..

Posted by: Drew at August 21, 2007 02:34 PM (hlYel)

10

Schwanz didn't get the most flattering of hashmarks but it is funny.

Posted by: polynikes at August 21, 2007 02:35 PM (m2CN7)

11 Put a smile on that guy on the right and he looks similar to the terrorist featured on the right of your home page. Call me crazy.

Posted by: NortonPete at August 21, 2007 02:35 PM (fVuwW)

12

RE: comment #7:

Yeah, Ace. You've mentioned this outstanding idea before and have proposed it - only to have it fall on shit-clogged "official" ears.

Find a congresscritter to mentor and hero it. We (you bloggers and we readers) can do for this problem what was done with the piece-o-shit Shamnisty Bill.

We can! No time like the present!

Alternative: have a coder code the thing up, and periodically download the FBI wanted list and alert list to a specific net site for code-reference for updating.

Surely there's a geek out there with too much time on his or her hands? This is not a huge task. We're not talking writing "Doom" from scratch or anything.

Posted by: Steamboat McGoo at August 21, 2007 02:38 PM (41Dd+)

13

I think you're being pretty tough on the Seattle PI.  How would you like to try to base your business policies on a set of self-contradicting directions like:

- Connect the dots, but don't collect the dots.

- Protect our infrastructure, but don't target the likliest offender profiles.

- Don't eavesdrop on the terrorists, attack Palistan!

I mean, it must be damn difficult... the DNC is a harsh mistress.

 

Posted by: sherlock at August 21, 2007 02:47 PM (ojW85)

14 Sir,

As a tenured Professor of the Department of Terrorist Science at Rutgers University, I really must protest your offensive attitudes vis a vis terrorists.

It is clear you have no understanding of the determinate biological nature of terrorism. These young men are who they are - just as nature or, if you must prefer, jeebus, made them.

They were born this way and no more deserve your scorn than the scorn you would show a moron.

Should you continue in this vein, Mr Spades, I will see that you lose your job and the government funding that supports this blog.

The consensus is in. Terrorism is genetic. It's science.





Posted by: Dr Al-Qabuum, Professor of Terrorist Science at August 21, 2007 02:47 PM (fsZu0)

15 The Seattle paper didn't run the photos because it might interfere with terrorists killing a whole lot of Americans.  That's what liberals want. 

It's not just making Bush look bad -- although they do enjoy that.  It's killing Americans they really like.  That's why they've been able to overcome all their ideological differences in order to make common cause with Islamic terrorists:  the terrorists kill Americans, and that's more important than anything else.

Talk to any journalist:  they hate the society they live in.  That's why they went into journalism -- to "make a difference."  In other words, to tell people what to think.  But people refuse to listen, and that feeling of undeserved moral and mental superiority quickly curdles to pure, caustic hatred.

They hate America, they hate Americans, and they want us all to die.  That's really all there is to it. 

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 21, 2007 02:59 PM (au43g)

16

Ace,

I have sent you some HTML code that can do this. Pl check your email.

Posted by: Tushar D at August 21, 2007 03:05 PM (IlgNp)

17 Yeah, Ace, just go right ahead and run that code that some anonymous guy from another country just randomly sends to you. 

What could go wrong?

Posted by: wiserbud at August 21, 2007 03:08 PM (IHbof)

18

They hate America, they hate Americans, and they want us all to die.  That's really all there is to it. 

Well, journalists, that makes it mutual.

Posted by: sherlock at August 21, 2007 03:11 PM (ojW85)

19

wiserbud,

I just sent him a HTML code snippet.

Lighten up, Nancy.

It is HTML, not some scary code that will crash AoS and swipe the credit cards of all commenters.

Posted by: Tushar D at August 21, 2007 03:11 PM (IlgNp)

20 I know... it's from Tushar, so the code of the "Most Wanted" will probably just turn out to be a list of guys who beat Vijay Singh in tennis tournaments.


Posted by: ace at August 21, 2007 03:11 PM (1UCRY)

21

Well, I never!

**pox on that Tiger Woods**

Posted by: Tushar D at August 21, 2007 03:13 PM (IlgNp)

22

ace:  "Once again I note I have contacted the FBI about them creating a simple bit of code that would rotate pictures of men wanted in terror probes or fugitives generally, so that thousands of willing blogs could post a constantly-viewed electronic post office wanted wall.

They'll get back to me, apparently."

I know you've posted about how you wanted to do this, and you said the FBI blew you off. (based off of my admittedly faulty memory)

Well, I don't think they blew you off.  Your idea is a great one.  Seriously.  And it seems absurd that they wouldn't have leapt at the idea when you presented it.

But the FBI is a beuaracracy (sic), and as such, is very hard to get moving.  The guy you tipped with this idea?  He may think it is absolutely the greatest idea ever.  But if he is just collecting tips from the public, all he can do is pass it on to his supervisor or send it to who he thinks is appropriate to send it to.

And like all good ideas in a beauracracy (sic?), they tend to get bogged down in a morass of red-tape, TPS reports, proceedures, budget request, lines of authority conflict, etc, etc, etc.

The only thing I can say is keep beating the drum and making noise, and maybe eventually, enough people will pick up on this, start beating their own drums, and finally get that damn eliphant to do something.

Heck, you helped defeat shamnesty.  This seems doable.

If more and more bloggers picked up on this meme, maybe government agencies or congress or the executive might act.

Don't forget ridicule.  Nothing is more satisfying than ridiculing the holy hell out of the government, and watching them squirm. (well, hopefully they will squirm.  On the flip side, nothing is more demoralizing than total indifference.)

 

Posted by: Ed at August 21, 2007 03:15 PM (TaJY1)

23 Vijay Singh = Vijay Amritraj

Posted by: polynikes at August 21, 2007 03:16 PM (m2CN7)

24

list of guys who beat Vijay Singh in tennis tournaments

C'mon, Ace.  You could at least get the sport right.

It's cricket tournaments.

Posted by: Master Shake at August 21, 2007 03:16 PM (tcMQZ)

25 It is HTML, not some scary code that will crash AoS and swipe the credit cards of all commenters.

....yet.

Posted by: wiserbud at August 21, 2007 03:17 PM (wWwJR)

26 damn... I meant the guy in the James Bond movie Octopussy.  Thought i remembered his name right.


Posted by: ace at August 21, 2007 03:17 PM (1UCRY)

27 right... vijay singh is the golfer, right?

I hate blowing jokes like that.


Posted by: ace at August 21, 2007 03:18 PM (1UCRY)

28

Update:  Or I could end up looking like a pretentious douche-bag with my stupid ass "rah-rah, go team" #22 comment, while Tushar D simply solves the whole damn problem with some code.

Eh... it just goes to show you.  Some people just talk about how other people should solve a problem.  Others just solve the damn problem without a lot of talk.

Good job Tushar D.

 

Posted by: Ed at August 21, 2007 03:19 PM (TaJY1)

29

Ed,

you are too kind. Ace wants something more flexible. I gave him a pile of moroncode.

Posted by: Tushar D at August 21, 2007 03:22 PM (IlgNp)

30

My moroncode is useless.

And it will scare the children, startle cattle, and bruise fruit.

Posted by: Tushar D at August 21, 2007 03:23 PM (IlgNp)

31 I thought it had been suggested before that someone write some code but Ace rejected it on technical reasons.

Posted by: My Schwanz Is Alive! at August 21, 2007 03:27 PM (7T9Dc)

32

>>I thought it had been suggested before that someone write some code but Ace rejected it on technical reasons.

Ace's 'technical reason' was that he did not understand a word of the technobabble the guy was mumbling.

Posted by: Tushar D at August 21, 2007 03:30 PM (IlgNp)

33

Tushar

Scaring children, startling cattle. No problem. You start bruising fruits, life will become unbearable for you in a  hurry, Mister!

Oh, bruising "fruit"...

Never mind.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at August 21, 2007 03:37 PM (yrptY)

34 I always knew Joe Rogan and Manu Ginobili were into gay porn.

Posted by: Two Jokes For The Price Of Two at August 21, 2007 03:38 PM (JLI/R)

35 Vijay is the golfer, aye.

Re. the P.I.'s refusal to run the picture... someone with mad googlin' skillz ought to see if they've ever run pictures of "people of interest" to other investigations.


Posted by: krakatoa at August 21, 2007 03:40 PM (n+ZaI)

36

"Once again I note I have contacted the FBI about them creating a simple bit of code that would rotate pictures of men wanted in terror probes or fugitives generally, so "

Yeah, that's a good idea.  But federal bureaucrats are more interested in getting Dems elected than catching terrorists (see Wilsons, Scheuer, various NYT leaks, etc.).

I really think Giuliani is the only guy with the balls to clean the federal LE house.

Posted by: TallDave at August 21, 2007 03:43 PM (r1Ip+)

37 Two-fer could work magic at a console at CTU.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 21, 2007 03:45 PM (pzen5)

38

>>You start bruising fruits, life will become unbearable for you in a  hurry, Mister!

If I tweak my code just a wee bit, it can make fruits 50% more fabulous!

Posted by: Tushar D at August 21, 2007 03:45 PM (IlgNp)

39
The guy on the right is obviously peeing into Puget Sound. 

Can't they run his picture for crimes against Gaia?

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 21, 2007 03:56 PM (s7Ian)

40

DiT,

I am looking into some cheap hosting service. Maybe I can do all the coding, and Ace (or anyone else) will just have to copy a URL in their website to display a scrolling gallery of mooks.

 

Posted by: Tushar D at August 21, 2007 03:57 PM (IlgNp)

41

I really think Giuliani is the only guy with the balls to clean the federal LE house.

Great point!  And how fucking overdue is that?  It would make a great warm-up for the State Department.

Posted by: sherlock at August 21, 2007 03:58 PM (ojW85)

42

Hey, they are just a couple of scandi's up from that fish eating festival down in Oregon.  Or they just might be frog speaking canunks down for a ride on a humpback ferry, eh?

Kemp

Posted by: kempermanx at August 21, 2007 04:02 PM (qvT/A)

43

It is clear you have no understanding of the determinate biological nature of terrorism. These young men are who they are - just as nature or, if you must prefer, jeebus, made them.

Exactly.  You have laid your finger on the very source of the problem with the 'gay/transgendered can't help it argument.'

If gays/transgendered have no free will, then neither do pediphiles, terrorists, tax evaders, car jackers, et al.

If there is no free will, then we must start locking up people at birth to protect society.

The gays should be very careful where they go with this 'genetics are totally determinate' stance of theirs.

As for terrorists, I don't mind locking them up at birth, although the 'prison planets' of the middle east haven't contained them very well.

 

 

Posted by: Lokki at August 21, 2007 04:04 PM (wSBsc)

44 That's a great idea for the code, and seems like it wouldn't even be that hard. I'd add it in for sure.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2007 04:09 PM (wmgz8)

45 These guys are probably Seattle P-I reporters getting ready for their front page story detailing the best places and times for the terrorists to plant their bombs to cause maximum damage and casualties.

Posted by: Master Shake at August 21, 2007 04:17 PM (tcMQZ)

46 Do these nitwits realize that blogs collectively reach far more people in Washington than the Seattle P-I?


No, they don't.

Posted by: thebronze at August 21, 2007 05:08 PM (8zsLf)

47 "videotaping ferries"

hehehe

Posted by: 24goingon13 at August 21, 2007 05:15 PM (bLqh5)

48 The FBI should have told the Seattle P I that these two were Baptists from Alabama suspected of hate crimes against homosexuals, lesbians, and manatees. 

Their pictures would have been up and down the left coast in minutes and the AP and Al-Reuters would have picked up on the released fury of the press on suspected gay bashers.  Moments later these "Baptist Gay Bashers" would have been in custody.

Ya just gotta know how to spin things for todays journalists.

Posted by: Piso Majoda at August 21, 2007 05:40 PM (1dBGH)

49

Ya just gotta know how to spin things for todays journalists.

The only thing I want to spin for today's journalists is the cylinder of a .38 before we play Russian roulette (aka jihadi-raisin-roulette), a simple game in which I will graciously allow them the first 6 moves.

Posted by: sherlock at August 21, 2007 06:21 PM (h6sl7)

50 Here now, this bleedin' story is bleedin' false! I'll have you know that there's been no 'probing' in the ol' Ferry body since that tart Jerry Hall talked me into it back in the ol' Manifesto days; she said Mick had a right thing for it, so wot th' hell! Plus that wanker Asian doctor and his 'Oh, Mr. Ferry, I would recommend another colonoscopy this year'. Bleedin' sick of those bleedin' things too, mate, and I.......Oh, right, bleedin' car ferry. Righto. Sorry!

Posted by: Bryan Ferry at August 21, 2007 07:30 PM (Ft+og)

51 If these two guys show up at Acepalooza, I suggest we play it cool and make them feel at ease.  Then we give them the full moron treatment.  They will confess and give up an entire sleeper network in no time.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2007 09:35 PM (F/DIG)

52 "Then we give them the full moron treatment."

You mean a five-minute recorded excerpt of WP?  Torture!

Posted by: someone at August 21, 2007 09:40 PM (TXnhk)

53 Exactly.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2007 09:49 PM (F/DIG)

54

Can we question their patriotism now?

And Piso Majoda, I'm gonna have to tell Beth that you cursed Bear Bryant, the Tide, and Alabama in general.  You could run but you'd just die tired.

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