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Surprise! With More Good News From Iraq, MSM Reports Less News From Iraq

Inverting the old saying, good news is no news.

FoxNews was recently called out -- rightly, I think -- for reporting less on Iraq as the war turned badly and the nation turned against the war. Other MSM outlets pounced on that, of course; Keith Olbermann especially snickered.

Well now it appears the MSM has lost interest in the war as the news is relatively good. Anyone think this will make Countdown tonight?

And what's worse-- a reluctance to trumpet bad news and military set-backs, or a reluctance to report good news and military victories?

Another Astounding Flip-Flop: A few months ago anti-war liberals were complaining that the Bush case for war could not be falsified. If we were winning in Iraq, they claimed, Bush claims that that success shows we should stay the course. If we were losing in Iraq, they said, Bush would claim that the very fact we were losing proved we should stay the course, as we couldn't afford to lose.

Another fair complaint... although what is being complained of here is simple reality: A loss in Iraq would be somewhere between "extremely harmful" to "calamitous" to American foreign policy, so yes, Bush is going to argue that we can't afford to lose and thus it really doesn't matter whether we're winning or losing at any moment. Whether we're winning or losing at a particular time is a temporary condition. What never changes is that a defeat would be disastrous.

At any rate, this was the liberals' complaint. They all parroted it. Ha, ha! Look at the silly Bush Administration! No matter what the facts are, he argues it's important to push through to victory!

Well. Then I'm sure they'll note this interesting spin from Hillary!: Now that we're winning in Iraq, it's the perfect opportunity to bug-out and leave Iraq to Al Qaeda and al-Sadr/Iran!

Seems to me that Hillary! also has a non-falsifiable syllogism on Iraq: If we're losing, we need to abandon Iraq; if we're winning, we also need to abandon Iraq.

Anyone think the lefty bloggers will even mention this?

Of course not. And yet Bush's formulation was good comic fodder for them for a month. Look how stupid Bush is, they all tittered. No matter what the news might be, his conclusions never seem to adjust.

Well? Is Hillary likewise stupid or dishonest? How about Matthew Yglesias & Kevin Drum & Co. themselves?

Also at the Hot Air link is the suggestion that General Petraeus might testify on 9/11. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The White House needs to get its moronic partisan brigade under control. It's one thing to be partisan; it's another thing to be a moron about it. The stunt of arranging Petraeus' testimony to occur on 9/11 is so transparently manipulative that far from helping the cause it will actively sabotage it.

I feel the need to remind some high-ranking Republicans once again: We're conservative, guys. Not retarded. There is a difference I assure you.

The condescension and contempt demonstrated towards conservatives by the GOP rivals and sometimes exceeds that demonstrated towards us by the liberal Democratic Party and the MSM (but I repeat myself).

Ramesh Ponuru "Hears" Congress Chose the 9/11 Date: If they did, they're stupid and they're stepping on a day that should be as free from overt politics as possible. But perhaps their idea is to have the 9/11 commemorations crowd out Petraeus' report, and perhaps reduce two bad news cycles for them to only one.

If so, then they're the ones who should be castigated.

Thanks to TopsecretK9.

Posted by: Ace at 06:14 PM



Comments

1

Well, you see, it's obviously human nature to report less on bad news.  So, you won't be so surprised when the good news for America is not reported by the MSM - because it's bad news for them, in their fuzzy view of the world.

 

Posted by: Editor at August 20, 2007 06:19 PM (SJCkB)

2 If you want to see some really interesting news on Iraq, tune in to Harball in a few. You will see John Soltz of votevets.org and the moderator who threatened to turn in a NCO who had the audacity to tell him at yearlykos that the surge was working for talking politics while in uniform, defend the opinion piece in the NYT yesterday written by 7 active duty soldiers and NCO's.

Hypocrisy thy name is liberal.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2007 06:27 PM (t+mja)

3 As a follow up, here's how a Kosack reported on the incident at yearlykos.

>>Being an Army officer myself, I notice this kind of stuff immediately. My first thought was, "WTF is this guy doing? Has he lost his mind?" The thing is, every soldier knows that you don’t take part in politics while you’re in your uniform. It’s not only highly inappropriate—it’s also illegal. And there’s a good reason for it, too: When you wear the uniform, you are representing the military, and it is essential that the military never, ever wade into politics. That’s what banana republics do—and it causes all kinds problems with regard to democratic processes and corruption. Just look at these fine examples of mixing the uniform with politics and governance: Moammar Qaddafi, Fidel Castro, Saddam Hussein, Manuel Noreiga. It’s just not a good idea—and that’s why we don’t do it. Ever. Period.

>>Soltz, who is still a Captain in the Reserves, at that point had heard all he wanted to hear. As an officer, he took it upon himself to reprimand the sergeant for breaking the Uniform Code of Military Justice, left the stage, and went to confront the soldier. In fact, if he hadn’t reprimanded the soldier, he could have been seen as condoning the act—and none of us wanted to do that.

Let's see if he jumps forward to reprimand these in uniform, active duty soldiers for giving writing their views on the Op-Ed pages of the NYT.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/5/3940/86488

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2007 06:34 PM (t+mja)

4

*click* Sorry, this information doesn't fit the narrative *click* *click* this is a recording *beep*

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at August 20, 2007 06:35 PM (Ft+og)

5 We're conservative, guys. Not retarded. There is a difference I assure you.

Unfortunately, not so much though in government these days.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 20, 2007 06:38 PM (Tp5Q4)

6 The White House needs to get its moronic partisan brigade under control. It's one thing to be partisan; it's another thing to be a moron about it. The stunt of arranging Petraeus' testimony to occur on 9/11 is so transparently manipulative that far from helping the cause it will actively sabotage it.


Slow down there, Cowboy----

The Petraeus Testimony [Ramesh Ponnuru]
Before people start speculating too much about the timing of his testimony (Sept. 11), I should also note that I hear that Congress picked the day, not the administration.

08/20 12:13 PM

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTU4YWRmZWQ4YjIzN2MwYmU1NmU1ZGIyMGZhODhjOTc=

Posted by: topsecretk9 at August 20, 2007 06:42 PM (0rJrY)

7 Hello? Congress is the one scheduling this, and who is in charge of scheduling?
The mystery party who shall not be named.

Are we going to have to start fact checking this blog, cuz I got a job.

Posted by: Stormy70 at August 20, 2007 06:50 PM (Y+o71)

8

Fact-checking is for morons.

 

Posted by: hit and run at August 20, 2007 06:54 PM (Kt8vP)

9 Purple beat me to it.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at August 20, 2007 06:54 PM (QTv8u)

10 I was at the VFW convention today when McCain and Clinton made their speeches.  I didn't catch all of Clinton's speech, but McCain was interesting.  he spent most of his time talking about his service to the country and relating to the veterans and then gave a few comments on Iraq.  He said that he had to be honest and stick with his assessment that we should not leave Iraq (and I quote) "not because it would be a catastrophe for Iraq, but because it would be a catastrophe for the United States."  (he sounded more forceful than I had heard him in previous speeches, almost podium pounding).  Local CBS station has the coverage: 

Clinton received a generally friendly welcome at the start, but only a smattering of applause when she said American troops should come home. VFW members responded to most of her remarks about Iraq with polite silence. The hall in which the candidates and Petraeus spoke seated almost 6,000 people, but it was only half full for their remarks.  Clinton said the Iraqi government still must take responsibility for itself and its people."I do not think the Iraqis are ready to do what they have to do for themselves yet," she said. "I think it is unacceptable for our troops to be caught in the crossfire of a sectarian civil war while the Iraqi government is on vacation."

In contrast, VFW members interrupted McCain's remarks about Iraq several times with applause, including when he spoke of the need for U.S. troops to remain. Also contributing to his warm reception was his past as a former Vietnam prisoner of war.  He said Petraeus and other U.S. commanders in Iraq deserve patience as they make progress in bringing stability to that nation. He said removing U.S. troops would empower al-Qaida and Iran and unleash a "full-scale civil war in Iraq.

There's video of the speeches at CBS website.

One thing I was bummed about was that I didn't know that Petraeus was going to be giving any comments via satellite or I would have been on that with my video camera.  I did get McCain and Clinton pictures.  Both of them were very approachable.  Tomorrow, Obama and Thompson are on.  the President is there Wednesday.

Expect a little more first hand reporting.  Today, being the first day of the convention, was very busy at our booth (soldiersangels.org).  I did meet some great veterans from all wars (including OEF and OIF).  Got a few interviews with those folks.  I'll have some up at YouTube soon and a post on the site for tomorrow AM about the Monday's event and the commentary. 

Posted by: kat-missouri at August 20, 2007 07:59 PM (io+Si)

11 "...described the Iraqi government as “on vacation,”"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Hidebeest and the rest of the D.C. Dimwits ALSO on vacation while out Troops are at war??


Posted by: MOMinuteman at August 20, 2007 08:08 PM (45hku)

12 yeah.  I did find that amusing.  But that's the new DNC talking point.  Iraq is progressing militarily but the politicos are "on vacation".  Of course, this vacation is a good thing because, just like our own congress, every once in a year, they need to get back to their constituents and find out what they want to do.  In Iraq, of course, it is really important since the realities on the ground have changed considerably.


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