Hmmm... NYT Hard At Work Editing WSJ's Wikipedia Page

I see now why the NYT is so prone to comical errors. Those vaunted multiple layers of painstaking editorial oversight are apparently being employed to edit an online fake-encyclopedia in order to denigrate a competitor.

The staff of America's Paper of Record (TM) are also busy dicking around on the internet all friggin' day childishly vandalizing Wikipedia entries on George W. Bush and Tom Delay.

One edit claims Delay was a "Grand Dragon" of the Republican Party.

Nuance.

I'm not sure what annoys me more -- the obvious root-and-branch True Believer liberalism that permeates the place (which, of course, they strenuously deny) or the fact that America's "Paper of Record" (TM) has time to fuck about all day on the internet but cannot seem to ever properly find the correct quotation for George W. Bush's "infamous sixteen words" on uranium in ~~Africa~~ Niger [ed-- it sounds better to say "Niger." That way we can link it up with those French forgeries that Bush never mentioned and the CIA never relied upon. Let's run with that!]

More Nuance From The New York Times: Editing Condi Rice's entry to say she's become not a pianist but a "penis."

Big yucks.

Must be that very sophisticated Gothamite wit that rubes like me just don't "get."

Race-Baiting, Now? A NYTser edits Bill Frist's bio to claim, strangely, he is an "African-American."

If the NYT gets lucky, they'll find out it's just one goldbricking idiot doing these edits.

If it's several, they've got a problem.

Have you ever seen anything so childish?

"Paper of Record." Best of the brightest.

Mm-hm.

Edit: Picking up some sleuthing in the comments, I posted here that maybe one of the NYT wiki-editing brigades had been found.

I rushed to post before really considering if it really mattered. Further, the guy named says it wasn't him, it was someone else, and where can you go from there?

So I'm deleting out the mention, though it remains in the comments. Bear in mind, he denies it, and seems to have not understood even what I was asking about.

Posted by: Ace at 05:51 PM

Comments

1 I'm a bit confused, the NYT's just blame the "careless" internets for goof ups:

Reporters checking names on the Internet are carelessly misled by other people’s misspellings

So it's the NYT's staff twiddling away the day on the internet carelessly misleading themselves?

Posted by: topsecretk9 at August 14, 2007 05:57 PM (0rJrY)

2 What a bunch of technology morons. I bet it was Krugman.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 14, 2007 06:00 PM (7pxQ8)

3
I'm not sure what annoys me more -- the obvious root-and-branch True Believer liberalism that permeates the place (which, of course, they strenuously deny)

The only people remaining who still read the New York Times are also true believers.

Based on their lowered daily sales and their lowered stock prices, that's really all one can conclude. They simply have a smaller, more hardcore audience.

Posted by: Electric ferret at August 14, 2007 06:04 PM (U5cqs)

4 The story says the creator of this little IP indentifier wanted to catch evil meanies like Hallibutron changing crud about themselves. I immediately had a "be careful what you wish for" kinda thought because, while I imagine their are instances of republicans tweaking wikis, I know where the lion share will come from.

Little Green Footballs has an update - DNC's been defacing Rush Limbaughs wiki.

Any party that calls for google bombs as part of campaign tactics has got to have been wiki-altering like mad. Bet there is a Townhouse email on the very subject.

Posted by: topsecretk9 at August 14, 2007 06:07 PM (0rJrY)

5 They simply have a smaller, more hardcore audience.

their APPEAL has become more SELECTIVE just like BLACK MONDAY thanks to BUSH.

Posted by: Ian Faithwing Krugman Plover at August 14, 2007 06:17 PM (Lz6uE)

I think I have an idea who it is. Apparently there was these edits that got my attention
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=24692193
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=20862422

We could assume this is Nick Bilton of the New York Times doing this.

Posted by: Kaitain at August 14, 2007 06:23 PM (4ep6C)

7 Ladies and Gentlemen! We found our winner.
http://nickbilton.org/

Posted by: Kaitain at August 14, 2007 06:24 PM (4ep6C)

8 I got another IP address from the New York Times if you haven't noticed them

170.149.100.10

The IP address was used to edit an article based on Nick Bilton.

Posted by: Kaitain at August 14, 2007 06:27 PM (4ep6C)

9 It seems Nick Bilton started this article based on a Detention Center in Brooklyn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Detention_Center%2C_Brooklyn
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Metropolitan_Detention_Center%2C_Brooklyn&action=history

Posted by: Kaitain at August 14, 2007 06:28 PM (4ep6C)

10 I once spent an amusing afternoon watching Ann Coulter's wiki entry oscillate between sane and crazy. Funny part was that the edits all had the common theme of Coulter's drooling insanity. Irony, heh.

I swear, some of these entries probably need a full-time Wikipedia employee to monitor.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 14, 2007 06:39 PM (tVbxd)

Nick Bilton's photoblog

Just an excerpt to show how much of a douchebag this guy is (I'm too much of a moron to do blockquotes):

Top 5 things we WILL miss about Paris:
1. Fresh croissants in the morning and fresh baguettes at night. What a difference that can make in life.
2. Wine being cheaper than water. Really, it is.
3. The outdoor food and flea markets. The food markets are simply amazing.
4. Little French dogs and little French children, both equally obedient.
5. Looking up randomly at night and seeing the Eiffel Tower sparkling on the hour.

Top 5 Things we WON’T miss about Paris:
1. Dog shit on the sidewalk. There are no rules to require the disposal of your dog feces. We’ve stepped in shit everyday that it hasn’t rained heavily.
2. Smoking in restaurants, bars, cafes and any food related area.
3. The last train on the Metro stopping at 12:30 at night and having to rush home from wherever you are to avoid paying $30 to get cab home.
4. $7 cups of coffee in thin plastic cups that burn your hand.
5. Hot showers. There really aren’t any. Our shower lasted about 1 to 2 minuets before becoming ice ice cold baby.

Waahh.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 14, 2007 06:48 PM (tVbxd)

Nick has worked editorially with Sunday Styles, Circuits, Business Day and a variety of specials including the Elections, Oscars and section redesigns

Just a bunch of neutral observers reporting on the facts....

Posted by: Warden at August 14, 2007 06:54 PM (WfwcS)

13 Anyone see the founder of Wiki on C-span over the weekend? Apparently, there are only a hand full of employees who then rely on the Wiki fanclub to monitor all Wiki entries.

Yea, that a good plan. /s

Posted by: Annie at August 14, 2007 06:54 PM (eHaWc)

14 On the Nick Bilton thing, get a load of this New York Times entry change from the NYT IP range:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=20862257

Posted by: Dusty at August 14, 2007 07:07 PM (1Lzs1)

15 Dusty, I already noted that above.

Posted by: Kaitain at August 14, 2007 07:07 PM (4ep6C)

16 LOL, Nick changed it 5 minutes later. It was a Friday at 4:30 PM, so maybe Nick was going for a screencap to impress the gals at Happy Hour

Posted by: Dusty at August 14, 2007 07:11 PM (1Lzs1)

17 I found a second Tom Delay --

from--

In December 2005, the ''Washington Post'' reported that, in 1998, a group of [[Russia]]n oil executives had given money to a non-profit advocacy group run by a former DeLay staffer and funded by clients of [[lobbyist]] [[Jack Abramoff]] in an attempt to influence DeLay's vote on an [[International Monetary Fund]] bailout of the Russian economy.{{cite news | url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/30/AR2005123001480_pf.html | title=The DeLay-Abramoff Money Trail | publisher=The Washington Post | date=December 31, 2005 | author=R. Jeffrey Smith | page=A01}} Associates of DeLay advisor [[Ed Buckham]], the founder of the [[U.S. Family Network]], said that executives from the oil firm [[Naftasib]] had offered a donation of $1,000,000 to be delivered to a [[Washington, D.C.]]-area airport in order to secure DeLay's support.
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to:
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In December 2005, the ''Washington Post'' reported that, in 1998, a group of [[Russia]]n vampires had given money to a non-profit advocacy group run by a former DeLay staffer and funded by clients of [[lobbyist]] [[Jack Abramoff]] in an attempt to influence DeLay's vote on an [[International Monetary Fund]] bailout of the Russian economy.{{cite news | url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/30/AR2005123001480_pf.html | title=The DeLay-Abramoff Money Trail | publisher=The Washington Post | date=December 31, 2005 | author=R. Jeffrey Smith | page=A01}} Associates of DeLay advisor [[Ed Buckham]], the founder of the [[U.S. Family Network]], said that executives from the oil firm [[Naftasib]] had offered a donation of a half dozen babies to be delivered to a [[Washington, D.C.]]-area airport in order to secure DeLay's support.

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whatever the heck that means- sounds like they are actually deface the WAPO as well.

199.181.174.146 [wp] Tom DeLay [cur] 85322406

Posted by: topsecretk9 at August 14, 2007 07:12 PM (0rJrY)

18 A computer twit who doesn't know about anonymous proxy servers...which is to say a total poser who knows less about computers than my pet turtle¹

1) The turtle has a PhD in nuclear physics, but he's not a "computer turtle" by any stretch of the imagination.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 14, 2007 07:15 PM (7pxQ8)

19 #15, Sorry, then. I did a find of "Bilton" and didn't notice it.

Posted by: Dusty at August 14, 2007 07:27 PM (1Lzs1)

"Our shower lasted about 1 to 2 minuets before becoming ice ice cold baby."

He's paraphrasing Vanilla Ice. That just screams "cool."

Posted by: Sobek at August 14, 2007 07:48 PM (6GK9U)

21

Yeah, lots of impressive edits for Nick Bilton
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nick_Bilton&diff=prev&oldid=63496105
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nick_Bilton&diff=prev&oldid=56565001

Some doozies:

On Bill Frist page:
Added that Bill Frist is "an African American" Senator from Tennessee. WTF?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Frist&diff=prev&oldid=85050583

On the Condaleeza Rice page:
At age 15, Rice began classes with the goal of becoming a concert [[pianist]].
to
At age 15, Rice began classes with the goal of becoming a concert penis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Condoleezza_Rice&diff=prev&oldid=15725782

Posted by: commenter ss at August 14, 2007 07:50 PM (DaNDN)

22 Gosh, that guy looks like he could write for Wonkette. Scary talent, with a hint of faggotry.

Does the NYT hire only pseudomales from asshole Ivy league schools with marginal grades and a penchant for giggling?

Leftism is the philosophy of little kids. A bunch of tittering little kids.

They'll never grow up.

Posted by: Lt. Det. E Buzz Miller at August 14, 2007 07:53 PM (v/XJX)

Dude's also an inventor, and a hacker, as well as working for the NYT: Interview with Shifd Creators: Nick Bilton and Michael Young, Pt. I

I wonder if the dino-fucktards who run the NYT realize that this guy is a hacker pro. Why, yes, they are: Shifd

His e-mail address at the Times is bilton@nytimes.com.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 14, 2007 07:57 PM (gzbD0)

Interview with a Hack-pyre, Pt. II

Posted by: Sharkman at August 14, 2007 08:01 PM (gzbD0)

25 "Wonkette. Scary talent, with a hint of faggotry...."

Almost there. I would think

"Wonkette. Scary talent, with a soupcon of faggotry." gets the job done for this tubesnake and Wonkette as well.

Posted by: vanderleun at August 14, 2007 08:05 PM (ULUsu)

26 The dude is totally guilty.

Posted by: Stormy70 at August 14, 2007 08:05 PM (Y+o71)

27 He says he didn't do it. See the update.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2007 08:38 PM (1UCRY)

28 This is what he says:

<b>Denied:</b> In an email, Nick Billton says it wasn't him, just someone going in there and writing things about him they thought were funny. He hasn't said yet who this might be.

He also seems to think the edits I mean concern only him, which is at least suggestive that maybe it's not him.

He points out this edit:

<blockquote>
Nick Bilton was born...

During the lead-up to the Iraq war, Nick Bilton stood apart from most media figures in his persistent questioning of Bush administration claims of W.M..D in Iraq.

He is the holder of over 56 patents, including one for graph paper that instantly transforms scribbles into 10-point Helvetica. U.N. note takers use it without exception.

In 2006, Nick Bilton briefly joined a competing firm, the Three 6 Mafia, and together they created "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp" for the Hustle & Flow soundtrack. It won an Academy Award for Best Song.</blockquote>

...which he says is clearly written by someone else about him as a goof. Well, it is plainly a goof. Who wrote it I don't know. He says it was someone else, and it was brought to his attention by a co-worker. Who then deleted it.

So, no real progress on the Scary Important Case of the Stealthy Edits, alas.

Posted by: ace at August 14, 2007 08:47 PM (1UCRY)

Is Pinch the Times' Kleagle?

Posted by: andycanuck at August 14, 2007 08:53 PM (XXXCc)

Ace: So, what you are saying is that the Hacker got Hacked!

Posted by: Sharkman at August 14, 2007 10:03 PM (gzbD0)

31 Interesting,

This (Fox News caught editing a wikipedia page) is all over digg.com but somehow they dont have time to mention the NY Times aspect.

Posted by: chad at August 14, 2007 11:03 PM (WNcvq)

32 digg=ron paul+howard dean, and I'm not sure anyone cares about their "little kids get to censor stuff and feel mighty" club.

As more and more people become familiar with the internet, they also become familiar with those whackos that are so polarizing. Those truthers who think Bush wanted Katrina and hates black people.

Right now we;re in this weird phase where charlatans like Markos have power over the most vocal on the internet. It will get to the point where those people are more well known and hated by a broader spectrum of people. These NYT crazies that exist in wikipedia, digg, and many other places are going to do the world a lot of good. Usually it's hard to convince normal folks that there are that many people who hate their own country.

Posted by: PJ at August 14, 2007 11:18 PM (Xk+Fn)

33 @PJ,

While I would hope that you are correct given the growth that digg has experienced, even accounting for the inflated numbers, and their ability to drive traffic I am afraid that you are wrong. There are a lot of people out there who care what the people on digg think. It may be a self selecting group but it is a large one.

Posted by: chad at August 14, 2007 11:27 PM (WNcvq)

"If the NYT gets lucky, they'll find out it's just one goldbricking idiot doing these edits."

Are you kidding? They're probably telling the 'goldbricking idiot' to do the editing.

Posted by: sfcmac at August 15, 2007 07:19 AM (sNSfw)

The Ace of Spades Wiki article sure could use a reference to this site...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_of_spades

Posted by: Herosmith at August 15, 2007 10:33 AM (q/kmn)

there's this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_of_Spades_HQ

Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 15, 2007 11:00 AM (pzen5)

37 use the google luke

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