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| Source: TNR Is A Lot More Worried Than They're Letting On; Scott Thomas Got His Job For Plame-ish Reasons: "Frankln Foer Doesn't Want To Tell TNR Staffer Elspeth Reeve Her Husband Is A Liar"Reorganized, Re-edited, Corrected Post. The actual quote was "Frank doesn't want to tell ___ her husband is a liar," offered up not by my source but by someone else. The blank has now been confirmed as TNR staffer Elspeth Reeve, and even though the quote was "husband," there's some question about that: weddingchannel.com says their wedding is coming in October. Though perhaps they had a quickie civil ceremony before his last deployment or something, with the formal ceremony to occur later. Look, husband/fiancee, not sure it matters. It certainly seems that everyone in the TNR offices were under the impression they'd already been married. I was going to let this slide and not report it but then TNR played the hard guys and fired the guy actually sharing information about this with people. Meanwhile Foer and Beuchamp are still drawing paychecks. Needless to say, Elspeth Reeve has nothing in particular to do with this, other than, I guess, some guy who walked by in the hallway suggesting her husband for theGracie: Okay: Although I'm 100% certain that the husband of a staff member is central to this, I'm only about 90% certain that the husband IS Scott Thomas -- the alternative possibility is that the husband is one of the soldiers vouching for Scott Thomas me: okay. well I was going to stay off of that anyway.Note: I'm including that to prove I wasn't super-eager to mention that Beauchamp only got the job through his engagement to a staffer. I was going to say merely that he got the job due more to personal familiarity and connections than any obvious qualifications. I was going to hold off on that. Until they pissed me off. It's all so Plame-ish. As Gracie wrote to me, of all the embeds and milbloggers and real journalists they could have picked for the job, they instead chose to go with a very partisan, very inexperienced blogger just out of "laziness." Just because they knew him. Just because it was easy. I actually think part of the reason was that they knew Beauchamp's politics -- he having put them on display on his goofy blog -- and so, just like with Valerie Plame, they knew the report was going to come back the way they wanted it when they sent him. But Gracie says it's just Occam's razor: Laziness. Still, he's just speculating on the reason (as am I). BTW, I have long kinda-sorta wanted to embed in Iraq... if TNR wants to sponsor me, I am more than willing to do some light petting with Michelle Cottle, if need be. Thanks to Liberrocky for nailing down confirmation of the marriage/engagement angle. I was up half the night googling that. I really want to stress that I wasn't particularly psyched about reporting this part of the story. But honestly, the name's already out there anyway; I'm just the first to run with it. There would have been someone right behind me. Plus, like I said, I think TNR is playing very dirty pool here. Allah's Always Gotta Be A Dick Update: Allah is questioning whether my suggested timeline is right -- that Elspeth got Beauchamp the gig because they were engaged/married. Instead, he wonders: Did Beauchamp already get the gig, and then had a whirlwind courtship with Elspeth? All I can say is that this would have had to have been a very quick courtship. The guy starts posting for TNR a couple of months ago and then he's married or engaged to a woman he couldn't possibly have met more than once or twice, owing to his overseas deployment? Further, my information tells me they went to the same college together. Dianna, for example, writes: Ace, would you please tell Allah to go check TNR's staffer page? Elspeth Reeve attended the University of Missouri (Journalism School). So did Beauchamp, some sort of writing course.I already told him this; he's still saying it's possible Beauchamp was hired independently of Elsepth, and then they had a lightning-fast courtship/engagement/marriage (the duration of which he was mostly overseas in Germany, Kuwait, and Iraq). And he's right: It's possible. In the sense it violates no known physical laws of the universe. Is it likely? No, it is not likely. But I will note the possibility of this rather unlikely scenario. Allah also notes that Beauchamp may have already left Iraq, and have come back home in, say, January. And romanced Elspeth since then. But if that's the case, TNR is doing some heavy-duty misleading, because they are deliberately creating the impression his dispatches are recent if not real-time. ... Fired: I knew this, but wasn't sure if I was supposed to say anything about it. TNR fired Gracie at 7:25 this morning with the non-explanation, "Your services are no longer required." This information is offered up by one of Gracie's psuedonyms ("near certainty" on that) at discarded lies. I was holding that back because, other than Gracie sending me an email early AM telling me of this nasty wake-up call, I haven't been able to make contact and determine if I could run this information, or if a protest was planned, etc. In other words, my stating "my source was fired" sort of tells them they were right, eh? But it's been announced on the site they're busily checking (when they should be checking stuff in Iraq, no?). That's why I had "near certainty" the person searching for Gracie's posts was from TNR, btw. I guess I'm not letting anything out when I say the other blogger who vouched for Gracie was Sean Gleeson, over there at discarded lies. He's the one who told me about TNR searching discarded lies for hints about Gracie's identity -- which they seem to have found. And that's sort of why I decided to reveal the marriage angle-- which I was going to hold back, but they pissed me off with this. Thanks to Lewis from discarded lies for letting me know the information was already out there. Re-Edit: After having put in doubt about Beuachamp being married to the staffer, I took it back out again. Chickenhawk Offers His Services! Jeff Emmanuel, a special ops vet, offers to be the new Baghdad Diarist. He won't get the job. For one thing, he's qualified. For another thing, he can't be guaranteed to deliver the anti-military fictions Beauchamp did. For a third thing, he's not going steady with anyone at TNR. Allah's got lots of updates, hard to keep up with it all. Update on TNR's Mole-Hunt: I actually warned Gracie to delete all his browser history and the like last night. Alas, he wasn't at work, and besides, TNR probably had a record of all his web-activity anyway. At any rate, I think they were busy in their offices last night checking web activity, and also maybe accessing everyone's computer for history. And then searching on discarded lies for Gracie's posts, to confirm the times. Hi, Ace! I'm the one who told Sean that the IP address in your post was doing searches on discarded lies for Beth Greem, when we were discussing what we could do to better cloak Beth/Gracie's identity. At the time, I was only speculating that the searcher using that IP address might be from TNR. I've since investigated our logs further, and have determined that that particular IP address likely does not belong to TNR, and I regret that it's appearing here. I have since determined the actual IP address* that TNR's offices were using to access our site. A whois returns TNR as the owner of the IP block in question, while the 72.75.X.X IP is just some Verizon DSL account in the DC area and could be anyone. I can authoritatively state that TNR did their investigation into Beth/Gracie's identity from their corporate network and their own netblock, not some Verizon DSL account. One of the mistakes Beth/Gracie made was using his computer at TNR in whistleblowing, which made their investigation much easier. Based on that, I would greatly appreciate it if you removed the 72.75.X.X address from your post, so as to avoid accusing someone who is likely uninvolved. Thank you.That's from Evariste at discarded lies. I'm deleting that IP now. Comments1
Ace, I messaged one of Scott's friends in his myspace and I'm going to hopefully get an answer out of the guy since he's active.
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 01:57 PM (4ep6C) 2
Ace, If you read one of pinheads blog items, he talkes about his future wife, I believe her name is "Priscilla." Would be interesting to see if there is a Priscilla working at TNR. Posted by: mastour at July 26, 2007 01:59 PM (kTTiP) 3
Don't know if this means anything, but his MySpace (Link vis MM) says he is single.
Posted by: Franklinstein at July 26, 2007 01:59 PM (yfsWy) 4
From the Weekly Standard -- Link
Mike- We are in the midst of a formal investigation into the allegations Pvt Beauchamp has made. That's all I can say for now. Respectfully, Kirk Major Kirk Luedeke Posted by: mesablue at July 26, 2007 02:04 PM (KCOdQ) 5
Posted by: Jay at July 26, 2007 02:04 PM (VZ0Yh) Posted by: Lewis at July 26, 2007 02:07 PM (Y3uPw) Posted by: sandy burger at July 26, 2007 02:14 PM (PQyeQ) 8
If you look at his MySpace, commenters there called him an asshole. It has something to do with a Priscilla. Maybe, he's Elvis? Anyway, I got the impression he dumped a person named Priscilla. Priscilla, honey! Count your blessings!
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 02:24 PM (3W27q) 9
There is also a photo of a german girlfriend who he declares is racially pure.
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 02:24 PM (3W27q) 10
I think he dumped Priscilla right before her finals in April 2007. All her girlfriends and sister keep posting Beauchamp is an asshole.
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 02:32 PM (3W27q) 11
>>>3
Don't know if this means anything, but his MySpace (Link vis MM) says he is single.
>>>If you read one of pinheads blog items, he talkes about his future wife, I believe her name is "Priscilla." Would be interesting to see if there is a Priscilla working at TNR. Priscilla isn't the name of the staffer, which I actually know. As I say in an update, either Priscila is an alias for for his wife, or it's her real name, in which case he's not directly married to the TNR staffer. In which case, the staffer's husband is the one who recommended/vouched for Beauchamp. Posted by: ace at July 26, 2007 02:33 PM (1UCRY) 12
The wife is likely Elspeth Reeve, tnr staffer
It is amazing what you can find on weddingchannel.com.
Posted by: Liberrocky at July 26, 2007 02:33 PM (JIq9A) 13
Hmmmm. Anyone know who or what prompted this asshat to enlist? Posted by: Enlightened at July 26, 2007 02:35 PM (CHJ2J) 14
There is also a photo of a german girlfriend who he declares is racially pure.
Vas los?! Beauchamp, Sie sind ein dumbkopf!!* Ve at ze NPR must not let ze proletariat know our true motives! *Babelfish'd Posted by: Franklin Feuer Frei at July 26, 2007 02:36 PM (e5r8o) 15
Wow. Wedding Channel. Man.
Posted by: Fred at July 26, 2007 02:37 PM (Mi+aT) 16
Wow. Liberrocky is right. He's from MO and she's in DC. Wedding is in October.
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 02:38 PM (3W27q) 17
I hate their taste in towels
Posted by: Liberrocky at July 26, 2007 02:39 PM (JIq9A) 18
Google her name. She also went to U of Missouri.
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 02:39 PM (3W27q) 19
Great find, Liberrocky.
So Elspeth is getting married to a guy who mocks burn victims and laughs at corpse desecration. What a catch that guy is. Posted by: T-web at July 26, 2007 02:39 PM (57znu) 20
The wife is likely Elspeth Reeve, tnr staffer Ace keeps getting scooped. Whatever you've got, don't hold back now. Let it go before another one of your readers beats you to the punch.
Posted by: Bart at July 26, 2007 02:40 PM (X+oa6) 21
Honestly, I would never have thought of the Wedding Channel. That is a lot like the Simpsons or South Park spoofs of 24.
Posted by: holdfast at July 26, 2007 02:40 PM (Gzb30) 22
This Elspeth Reeve? Scroll thumbnails on the left....
http://journalism.missouri.edu/news/2004/11-11-summer-contest.html
Curiouser and Curiouser Posted by: Enlightened at July 26, 2007 02:41 PM (CHJ2J) Posted by: Liberrocky at July 26, 2007 02:42 PM (JIq9A) 24
Libberlocky,
Much thanks, I put your link in the post. I deleted it from the comment because the format was off and it was blowing the margins. I WAS LOOKING ALL NIGHT ON GOOGLE FOR THAT!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAGGHH! Posted by: ace at July 26, 2007 02:42 PM (1UCRY) Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 02:43 PM (3W27q) 26
There's an Elspeth Reeve on the TNR masthead.
Posted by: Dusty at July 26, 2007 02:43 PM (GJLeQ) Posted by: Drew at July 26, 2007 02:44 PM (hlYel) 28
I really like the name Elspeth. It's a lovely old English name. One major downside is it's a little close to Erzbet, specifically Erzbet Bathory who was a very terrible and disgusting person. Back to Gracie, does she have standing for a wrongful termination suit? IANAL but it seems as if TNR may have her on a non-disclosure clause. I am glad for the work of the bloggers who are working to unravel this mystery as it seems there are hidden elements here the public would do well to know. Posted by: bonhomme at July 26, 2007 02:44 PM (jvG2F) 29
There is also a photo of a german girlfriend who he declares is racially pure. Right-click and check the Properties on that photo. It's apparently from 2002. You can thank Sean Gleeson too for bringing that bit o' knowledge. And, yeah, the 'racial perfection' thing is pretty creepy. Posted by: Lewis at July 26, 2007 02:45 PM (Y3uPw) 30
Nice work, Liberrocky and ace, too, for bird-dogging this.
Another liberal implosion is happening before our eyes. Day-yum, this is fun to watch! Anybody got popcorn? Posted by: OregonMuse at July 26, 2007 02:46 PM (WqDqW) 31
So, what did he do to Priscillia who is either a nick for his fiance or a girlfriend on the side to piss off all her friends?
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 02:47 PM (3W27q) Posted by: holdfast at July 26, 2007 02:47 PM (Gzb30) Posted by: 1sttofight at July 26, 2007 02:48 PM (BihGV) 34
Yes, 1sttofight, there is still time for you to get them a wedding present.
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 02:51 PM (3W27q) 35
>>Yes, 1sttofight, there is still time for you to get them a wedding present.
A trip into the witness protection program might be appropriate. Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2007 02:53 PM (t+mja) Posted by: PRCalDude at July 26, 2007 02:54 PM (8jRjS) 37
I wouldn't want to be in Private Beauchamp's boots right now. One thing you do not do in the military is go outside the chain of command with crap like this (except under certain circumstances, none which which include tattling to TNR). Bad enough even if the allegations are true; far worse if the allegations are bullshit. We're fighting a PR war, and the military is still exquisitely sensitive to the damage Abu Ghraib did to the military's image both here and in Iraq. That the story contained as much fabrication and fabulist invention as it did the truth hardly mattered. Private Beauchamp has probably committed several UCMJ-actionable offenses here. Depending on how things turn out, being hated by the guys in his unit might be the least of his problems -- he might be looking at a dishonorable discharge or even some time in the stockade, depending on how big of a dick the JAG decides to be.
Posted by: Monty at July 26, 2007 02:55 PM (/V4PN) 38
I would imagine Ms. Reeve is not someone you would want to be today either.
Posted by: Sue at July 26, 2007 02:56 PM (Jol77) 39
<i>He's married to someone at TNR.</i>
Well, slap me with a haddock. I would have sworn he was a pillow-muncher. Posted by: V the K at July 26, 2007 02:56 PM (PLvLS) Posted by: PRCalDude at July 26, 2007 02:56 PM (8jRjS) Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 26, 2007 02:57 PM (pzen5) 42
Sheeshie, This information shows how TNR could get duped into doing less than vigorous fact checking as this is the fiance of one of there own. Posted by: JFH at July 26, 2007 02:57 PM (c+Pwv) 43
And you guys are the cool nutjobs?
Yes, we are cooool! And you are just jealous because you aren't getting nancy and we are. What does any of this have to do with his accusations which at this point you have been 100% unable to refute? Well that is not quite true. Posted by: Mr Minority at July 26, 2007 02:57 PM (NJi0O) 44
It appears she is good looking, smart, and has a very good job. So, what is she doing with a goof like Beauchamp?
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 02:58 PM (3W27q) 45
I'm a huge dick.
Posted by: the JAG at July 26, 2007 02:58 PM (pzen5) 46
Hi, Ace! I'm the one who told Sean that the IP address in your post was doing searches on discarded lies for Beth Greem, when we were discussing what we could do to better cloak Beth/Gracie's identity. At the time, I was only speculating that the searcher using that IP address might be from TNR. I've since investigated our logs further, and have determined that that particular IP address likely does not belong to TNR, and I regret that it's appearing here. I have since determined the actual IP address* that TNR's offices were using to access our site. A whois returns TNR as the owner of the IP block in question, while the 72.75.X.X IP is just some Verizon DSL account in the DC area and could be anyone.
I can authoritatively state that TNR did their investigation into Beth/Gracie's identity from their corporate network and their own netblock, not some Verizon DSL account. One of the mistakes Beth/Gracie made was using his computer at TNR in whistleblowing, which made their investigation much easier. Based on that, I would greatly appreciate it if you removed the 72.75.X.X address from your post, so as to avoid accusing someone who is likely uninvolved. Thank you. Posted by: evariste at July 26, 2007 02:58 PM (Z3Iye) 47
he might be looking at a dishonorable discharge or even some time in
the stockade, depending on how big of a dick the JAG decides to be.
I have a feeling, given what Beauchamp did, the JAG will not be particularly forgiving. Posted by: Slublog at July 26, 2007 02:58 PM (2YHMb) Posted by: BentOuttaRound at July 26, 2007 03:00 PM (2mXj9) 49
Yes, 1sttofight, there is still time for you to get them a wedding present.
Actually I have one in mind but would probably get in trouble if I named it. They are usually available at sporting goods stores and come in boxes of 20. . Posted by: 1sttofight at July 26, 2007 03:00 PM (BihGV) 50
There was a time of darkness for man, all light being obscured by a giant singularity known as the MSM. The star field is beginning to penetrate the MSM miasma. Will man be blinded by the light?
Posted by: Dennis at July 26, 2007 03:00 PM (HPd5W) 51
Yes, would you like to touch the hem of my garment? Dave, you've gotta quit asking people to do that. Or at least not in the food court at the local mall while wearing a bedsheet and ringing a bell. It kind of freaks people out and just might get you arrested. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Monty at July 26, 2007 03:00 PM (UdJCa) Posted by: Liberrocky at July 26, 2007 03:03 PM (JIq9A) 53
Ace, I got ahold of this one active myspace user and seeing if we can confirm that
Elspeth Reeve is getting married to him. The user told me that she wanted to talk to Scott Thomas about it first before answering any of my questions. But I dropped the question "I would assume he's getting married to Elspeth Reeve?"
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:04 PM (4ep6C) 54
They are usually available at sporting goods stores and come in boxes of 20
Oh, you mean cigarettes? Posted by: OregonMuse at July 26, 2007 03:05 PM (WqDqW) 55
scott thomas writes in his sarge myspace for help getting back to the unit on time AFTER getting married...majmaj is his sarge's myspace
n Cognito Posted by: Becky at July 26, 2007 03:05 PM (W0XAX) 56
Why does Ace and Malkin refer to her as his wife when the wedding isn't until October???
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 03:05 PM (3W27q) 57
I wouldn't want to be in Private Beauchamp's boots right now.
I used it in another thread but I love the way John at OPFOR put it, our hero is no doubt facing an "aggressively curious" CO. I've never been in the military but that doesn't sound like any fun. Especially when you consider the CO is one one of the people libeled by implication in Private Dickhead's diaries. This guy is going to have some seriously bad days before he comes home to the warm embrace of the loony anti-American left. Posted by: Drew at July 26, 2007 03:06 PM (hlYel) Posted by: Becky at July 26, 2007 03:07 PM (W0XAX) 59
Dave, on the contrary, in majmaj's myspace, he already states he's married.
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:08 PM (4ep6C) 60
Somebody who has a MySpace account should contact Priscilla's friends and ask them for some background information about why he is an asshole.
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 03:08 PM (3W27q) 61
Spent a little time browsing Scott's Myspace Page, and those of his linked friends. I wonder if Elspeth knows that he appears to have spent quit a bit of time chasing high school aged poon in Germany earlier this year? At a guess I'd say military dependants. She's got a real catch there.
Also wondering if there is a way to verify when that Wedding Channel account was created - I would hate to have to forgoe all this cool gloating if it turns out someone put the Wedding Channel stuff up this morning. Posted by: holdfast at July 26, 2007 03:08 PM (Gzb30) 62
dave, can you link me which myspace it is? I can be able to contact them if you wish to.
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:09 PM (4ep6C) 63
Dave, you've gotta quit asking people to do that. Yeah. It's even creepier when you write that to a ghost troll that ace has since whacked. Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 26, 2007 03:10 PM (pzen5) 64
Why do I suspect more investigation into Scott's story has happened on this blog thread than TNR did before publishing his 'story'?
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at July 26, 2007 03:11 PM (Ft+og) 65
They could have gotten married in a civil ceremony, with the church wedding to be set in October (when he's rotating state side???)
Posted by: JFH at July 26, 2007 03:13 PM (c+Pwv) Posted by: Jay at July 26, 2007 03:14 PM (VZ0Yh) 67
Damn, you guys are good, got this picked apart. Its a pity "Gracie" got canned. Sorry about that. You might be better off being the first off that sinking ship.
Posted by: Sinistar at July 26, 2007 03:14 PM (Gq/6P) 68
Thanks, Ace!
#64 Sort-of-Mad Max: the funniest thing to me is that I'm sure they exhibited a lot more diligence while investigating Beth/Gracie than they did into investigating Scott's fables. Posted by: evariste at July 26, 2007 03:14 PM (Z3Iye) 69
[Someone says a bunch of unflattering stuff about the US military] TNR: Good job! [Someone says a bunch of unflattering stuff about The New Republic] TNR: You're fired. Posted by: David Ross at July 26, 2007 03:15 PM (Mi7Wp) 70
Damn, spend some time reading Beauchamp's blog. That boy is not right.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2007 03:16 PM (t+mja) 71
I can't contact her because I don't have MySpace. Jeanne, Sandra, and Priscilla may be sisters. They are german and I think Scott was fucking one of them. Jeanne's online. Somebody with MySpace please ask her to post here.
Link Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 03:17 PM (3W27q) 72
"Why does Ace and Malkin refer to her as his wife when the wedding isn't until October???"
A lot of couples, when faced with a deployment (real or imagined...) or pregnancy, will get legally married immediately but have the big expensive party with friends and family at the already-scheduled date months later. I'm going to be rude and get them something they're not registered for. Posted by: Heather at July 26, 2007 03:18 PM (yG+tb) 73
It is alos possible that the message re: returning from Germany and getting married was BS - may be an inside joke. MajMaj is, it appears, an E-5 fire team leader. Technically the first step up on Scott's chain of command (if Scott is in his team), but I would think if one were to be seriously late returning from leave, one would go to their squad leader at least?
Posted by: holdfast at July 26, 2007 03:18 PM (Gzb30) 74
I am messaging her right now. No one else bug her about it at the moment.
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:19 PM (4ep6C) 75
Hey, evariste! I used to post at LGF as andthenblammo!; good work at your site on this thing. Sorry about Throbert getting the can, he always was a good egg.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at July 26, 2007 03:20 PM (Ft+og) Posted by: Heather at July 26, 2007 03:20 PM (yG+tb) 77
Heather: Get them a copy of Glass's The Fabulist.
Posted by: David Ross at July 26, 2007 03:20 PM (Mi7Wp) 78
Good work -- this is definitely a hull strike. Can't wait for the military to pick apart his made-up stories. That's where things will get fun. Posted by: Tom at July 26, 2007 03:20 PM (02oyd) Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2007 03:22 PM (t+mja) Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 03:23 PM (3W27q) 81
Is anyone starting to feel sorry for Elspeth Reeve like me? Last year, she gets hammered by her fellow progressives (Including Wonkette)for writing an article defending Ann Coulter. Now, she mostly probably vouched for the integrity of her husband/fiance, only to now find out he was probably lying to her and her editors as to the validity of his claims. So she was either in on the alleged lies (which will result in her firing), or her better worse half was lying to her and embarrassing her on a national level. Posted by: JFH at July 26, 2007 03:23 PM (c+Pwv) 82
It worked fine earlier Dave. Right now I'm awaiting a response.
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:23 PM (4ep6C) 83
I found the perfect picture of the idiot -- http://moralauthority.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/scumbag-of-the-year/
Posted by: mesablue at July 26, 2007 03:23 PM (KCOdQ) 84
I have no faith in the press at all anymore. Everytime someone questions them they cover it up and spin like politicians. I can't believed they fired "gracie" for what amounts to whistleblowing. WFT happened to the press? Was it always like this or was there a point in time where you could count on them to not intentionally lie to you? Posted by: mike at July 26, 2007 03:24 PM (/InkS) Posted by: mike at July 26, 2007 03:25 PM (vhWf1) 86
Of the recent and most egregious military-atrocity spinners, Jesse Macbeth is in prison, Scott Beauchamp will be lucky not to wind up in Leavenworth, and John Kerry is still Senator from Massachusetts. I'm never going to question the value of an Ivy League education again. Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at July 26, 2007 03:25 PM (Ft+og) 87
They could have gotten married in a civil ceremony, with the church
wedding to be set in October (when he's rotating state side???)
I understand that people sometimes do this because you get a pay increase and/or additional benefits upon marriage, particularly when the service-member is overseas. A "family separation allowance," I believe it is called. Posted by: Phinn at July 26, 2007 03:26 PM (DiZv6) 88
mike, oh god I don't know why. He made up shit out of his ass, he's undermining the mission there, he's slandering everyone he knows there without offering proof such as date, where exactly, etc. Not to mention he's a fucking moron.
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:26 PM (4ep6C) 89
I read Beauchamp's whole fucking blog hours ago. I've got most of the real important shit linked and quoted. Ugh.
Posted by: Sinistar at July 26, 2007 03:26 PM (Gq/6P) 90
Sort-of-Mad Max: heh! OK then. I had no idea you were andthenblammo! :-) Small blogosphere.
Posted by: evariste at July 26, 2007 03:27 PM (Z3Iye) Posted by: Bart at July 26, 2007 03:28 PM (WG0f/) 92
Trying to keep up and I post a comment for here at HA. Ugh.
I am here right? Ace, don't ya think this post deserves a flaming skull or don't you do them ex post facto? Posted by: Dusty at July 26, 2007 03:29 PM (GJLeQ) Posted by: mike at July 26, 2007 03:29 PM (vhWf1) 94
I wonder if he and his racially pure wife plan to honeymoon in Jew York City.
Posted by: benjamin at July 26, 2007 03:30 PM (dTJxx) 95
Bart: Who crawled up your ass? Spruwing Plover?
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 03:30 PM (3W27q) 96
Hey Ace, you got HotAir people calling for a flaming skull!
Posted by: Sinistar at July 26, 2007 03:30 PM (Gq/6P) Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 26, 2007 03:32 PM (pzen5) 98
As dave said, we have crystal balls.
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:33 PM (4ep6C) 99
Subspace radio marriage.
Posted by: Rittenhouse at July 26, 2007 03:33 PM (qD4kf) 100
I am messaging her right now. No one else bug her about it at the moment. Her page says she's online right now. Poor little 18 y.o. will never know what hit her. Too bad you don't know where she is -- you could attach a Google sat shot showing her sitting at the computer as she receives her message. God, I love the Internet. Posted by: Blacksheep at July 26, 2007 03:34 PM (kVUW4) Posted by: RDub at July 26, 2007 03:34 PM (U4I5u) 102
Dave, the myspace user went offline. It looks like we're going to have to wait until he comes back online. However there's another 1-18 Infantry guy in his myspace which I contacted. No response from him yet. So we're going to have to twiddle our thumbs.
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:35 PM (4ep6C) 103
Other than the outing of the douchenozzle, I think that catching up on all this stuff today is more interesting because of how civilized everyone is. Even Ace here, who's only lack of civility is based on a sense of personal affrontery that someone would get fired for simply "speaking truth to power" in the form of gracie. Other than that, everyones just calmly pursuing their quest for the ring, or whatever, though I'm sure Ace's childhood optimus prime action figure is getting a workout from transforming, in those moments when he needs to refocus, but thats to be expected. Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 26, 2007 03:35 PM (QTv8u) 104
Blacksheep, update that myspace. Not anymore
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:35 PM (4ep6C) 105
I dunno. The guy made up some shit to dress up his account. He didn't claim soldiers were terrorizing civilians or were rapers or anything and he could have. Obviously the kid doesn't want to be in Iraq and obviously he and his GF/spouse are lefty peaceniks. Really, that's about all we have on the guy. On the plus side, he's there fighting and we're not. That's a pretty big plus. I'm for getting off his tits and putting the crosshairs on TNR, who didn't fact-check him because they were hearing what they wanted to hear. Posted by: spongeworthy at July 26, 2007 03:36 PM (uSomN) Posted by: Jay at July 26, 2007 03:36 PM (VZ0Yh) 107
Why the obsession with Scott Thomas?
Mike, Let's let the 'obsession' thing go and get to the crux of the matter. A generation of people went to fight a war that the left didn't like in 60's and were labeled war criminals, drugged out psychopaths and modern day Genghis Kahns for their trouble . Now these same douches on the left are trying to do it again but the difference is this time people who actually respect and appreciate the men and women who serve their country have a way to counter this crap before it becomes the accepted wisdom. It seems the least that can be done for them. Posted by: Drew at July 26, 2007 03:37 PM (hlYel) 108
Jay, where's the C option?
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:37 PM (4ep6C) 109
Ace, would you please tell Allah to go check TNR's staffer page? Elspeth Reeve attended the University of Missouri (Journalism School). So did Beauchamp, some sort of writing course. She placed 20th in the Hearst Awards 2005-06. Posted by: Dianna at July 26, 2007 03:37 PM (qrFCz) 110
*I think that catching up on all this stuff today is more interesting because of how civilized everyone is.*
Well, except me. But I started my blog-week suggesting John Edwards took crystal meth anally. So really, where else was I to go? Posted by: V the K at July 26, 2007 03:39 PM (PLvLS) 111
I fully expect to see a Lifetime Channel movie made about this next year. Scott Beauchamp will be played by Scott Baio since he needs the work.
Posted by: EC at July 26, 2007 03:39 PM (3k8DL) 112
Scott Thomas is a bastard. I had plans to become the great apocalyptic Iraq war diarist. After all, who better than me to get The New Republic to print totally fabricated nonsense? And I can actually write skillfully! Who the hell is this Scott Thomas? He's no Stephen Glass gotdamnit.
Posted by: Stephen Glass at July 26, 2007 03:39 PM (ufuno) 113
As for feeling sorry for Reeve, I do feel bad that I outed her. Posted by: Liberrocky at July 26, 2007 03:40 PM (JIq9A) 114
Sinistar (#96), yeah that was me. I posted to the wrong site! To many freakin' windows open.
Posted by: Dusty at July 26, 2007 03:40 PM (GJLeQ) Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 26, 2007 03:43 PM (pzen5) 116
UNFUCKING Believable. This is the shit the NY Times use to do, IF it was a Republican fucking up. So proud. No HIDING you lying sacks of shit. Oh, sorry. I love the smell of napalm in the morning! Kemp
Posted by: kempermanx at July 26, 2007 03:43 PM (+AlFt) 117
It would be great if we can help find another job for Gracie. Hey Jack M! Does your Senator/Congressman need a bright young man who is politically aware and upstanding? Funny, MSM makes heroes out of people in Corporate world/ Government/ Business who run to them blowing whistles. But they fire someone from their own organization when that person runs to the guerilla media. Posted by: Tushar D at July 26, 2007 03:44 PM (IlgNp) Posted by: Tushar D at July 26, 2007 03:46 PM (IlgNp) Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 26, 2007 03:46 PM (QTv8u) 120
Good point Tushar, where the hell has Jack M been? Its been a while since he's put up a post fawning over a girl he saw on RedEye.
Posted by: Sinistar at July 26, 2007 03:47 PM (Gq/6P) 121
Beth Reeve can and will sue TNR for retaliatory firing. Go watch the movie about me and you'll learn all you need to learn about TNR. This is deja vu all over again but just remember I was the original. Posted by: Stephen Glass at July 26, 2007 03:47 PM (ufuno) Posted by: Daniel at July 26, 2007 03:47 PM (nwJit) 123
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Here's my own version Apocalypse Now I love the smell of factfinding in the morning. You know, one time we had a article bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' proof. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory. Someday this fraud's gonna end... Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:49 PM (4ep6C) 124
122: No, that's some babe he photographed in Germany in 2002. Elspeth is a brunette.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at July 26, 2007 03:50 PM (Ft+og) 125
Kaitain: Thanks! Are you referring to Greg?
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 03:50 PM (3W27q) Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:50 PM (4ep6C) 127
I'm for getting off his tits and putting the crosshairs on TNR, who didn't fact-check him because they were hearing what they wanted to hear. Not me. The guy is a Blue Falcon in the worst way. None of this was an accident; his stuff didn't just magically appear in TNR. TNR is only doing what TNR does; this Scott Thomas, on the other hand, could have gone through his chain of command like he was supposed to. I hope he gets every bit of the UCMJ he has coming.
Posted by: Monty at July 26, 2007 03:50 PM (UdJCa) 128
Is it confirmed that the Wedding Channel entry was not newly-created ?
Posted by: holdfast at July 26, 2007 03:51 PM (Gzb30) Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:51 PM (4ep6C) 130
Does anyone see a resemblence in the picture of Beauchamp (via Mesa) to the guy in the rotating picture gallery on Jeanne's site?
Posted by: Paulitics at July 26, 2007 03:52 PM (47+Ys) Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:54 PM (4ep6C) 132
Aw, I was hoping. Posted by: Paulitics at July 26, 2007 03:57 PM (47+Ys) Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 03:57 PM (3W27q) 134
Other mike, change your name I was mike first.
Posted by: mike at July 26, 2007 03:58 PM (/InkS) Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 03:59 PM (4ep6C) 136
As for feeling sorry for Reeve, I do feel bad that I outed her. You probably did her a favor 'rock. Like most engaged women, she no doubt thinks her toy soldier is Mr. Wonderful. Might as well find out about the lies, rank reductions, and German girlfriends now rather than after the wedding. Besides, she's already learned the worst news: he can't write. Posted by: Blacksheep at July 26, 2007 04:00 PM (kVUW4) 137
I must say: I ignored the first three iterations of this story thinking it would all come back to bite us---specious charges, wingnut conjecture, etc. But now? Delicious. Anyone checking the Big conservative sites (NRO, Weekly Standard) for their take? This thing needs to reach escape velocity. Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at July 26, 2007 04:01 PM (JefgB) Posted by: mike at July 26, 2007 04:02 PM (WqDqW) 139
Blacksheep, I think rocky was appologizin for letting people know about what bad taste she has in towels. Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 26, 2007 04:04 PM (QTv8u) 140
an clocks Posted by: holdfast at July 26, 2007 04:06 PM (Gzb30) Posted by: Bart at July 26, 2007 04:07 PM (WG0f/) 142
I would also point out that the other day I wrote about how any thoughtless little throwaway joke or essay on the internet will inevitably be dredged up and used against you the minute your profile raises above a certain point.
Q.E.D. Think before you post, folks. Let it become second nature. Let that screed or rant simmer awhile on the hard drive before releasing it the world. Hold back on that evil-tempered forum post until you're sure you're saying what you mean (and that you really mean what you say). Posted by: Monty at July 26, 2007 04:07 PM (/V4PN) 143
Here's a timeline
Posted by: evariste at July 26, 2007 04:08 PM (Z3Iye) Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at July 26, 2007 04:09 PM (JefgB) Posted by: Monty at July 26, 2007 04:10 PM (/V4PN) 146
Oops, sorry. Here's a reconstructed timeline I made from mining our logs for TNR's investigation and firing of the leaker in their office, Beth/Gracie: http://discardedlies.com/entry/?31742_#c101 (or just click my name, it should go right to it).
Posted by: evariste at July 26, 2007 04:10 PM (Z3Iye) 147
You can both be mike.
Posted by: Mama at July 26, 2007 04:12 PM (02oyd) 148
So, when is TNR going to acknowledge Beauchamp is fucking one of their editors? Even in comments over there, only a couple of people appear to be acknowledging it.
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 04:13 PM (3W27q) 149
Trade craft people. Practice REASONABLE FUCKING TRADECRAFT when you're ratting out villains like those at TNR.
- DO NOT under any circumstances use company IT/phone/wireless gear for anything other than company purposes. (this will stand you in good stead at any job) - DO NOT rat out using a cellphone that has your name attached to it under any circumstances. Untraceable TrakPhone bought for cash at WalMart - OK. Verizon phone you get a bill for - NOT OK. Destroy TrakPhone's every couple of days and get new ones. - Keep your mouth SHUT when around people you consider enemies, keep it even tighter shut around your friends (unless they are implicated accomplices who are generally trustworthy out of self-preservation). - Use anonymous proxies when probing web sites and Google searching from your home machine(s). DO NOT get lazy and bypass this because its a slower connection using a proxy. Suck it up, do what it takes to keep yourself safe. Google and most web sites keep IP logs. If you think your privacy will be respected by them, you're sadly deluded. Google would rat you out in a heartbeat if it advanced their political agenda. Use free library machines, but not the same one or library all the time. Avoid patterns of usage. Be random as possible. - Pay phones are your friend. Don't be a retard and use the one just down the street from your crib though. Drive across town, drive to another town or even another state to make calls. Yea, this is a PITA and it cost more money, but it will help keep you in the clear. Doing a 400 mile round trip in the middle of the night and getting back in time for work the next day may be tough. Its so tough that most people won't believe you'd bother to do it. - DO NOT keep records at your crib or the office. Find a nice off-site dead drop and stash the stuff there for safe keeping. Cut an angle on a piece of PVC pipe so you can drive it into the ground easily and glue some sand on a PVC pipe cap for it. It'll just look like a lump of dirt to someone just casually walking by. Drive it into the ground along a lightly traveled road near some landmark - a mile marker, billboard, etc that you can find easily later on. Fake a breakdown while making withdrawals and deposits. Basically, be very very paranoid about your security once the game is afoot. Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 26, 2007 04:14 PM (natUQ) 150
What we have thus far on Private Scott Thomas Beauchamp
Graduated from Lindbergh High School, St. Louis, 2003 Entered U. of Missouri/Columbus, 2003 Left school in 2005(?) to join Army. Shipped to Germany in early 2006(?) Deployed to Iraq, ~ September 2006 Dumped "Priscilla" April 2007 Married(?) to Elspeth Reeve May 2007 Pending wedding to Elspeth Reeve October 2007 Posted by: geoff at July 26, 2007 04:17 PM (VoL32) 151
Oh, and purchase a digital voice changer for any phone calls. I bought one around 20 years ago called a DVC2000 and its worked very well. It can make a male voice sound female, or female voice sound male. Very nice.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 26, 2007 04:18 PM (natUQ) 152
Sweet find at Hot Air...Reeve quoted a 'Scott Beauchamp" in one of her college paper stories. What type of story...his attendance at a pro-abortion rally...
“I don’t think there’s usually enough men at these kind of events, so it’s really important to show up and support it,” said Scott Beauchamp, who endured a 24-hour bus ride from Columbia to attend Sunday’s march. “I think it’s really a civil rights issue.” Dude knows how to hit up on the liberal college girls. It maybe his only redeeming quality. Posted by: Drew at July 26, 2007 04:19 PM (hlYel) Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at July 26, 2007 04:20 PM (JefgB) 154
Ace - your link to the wedding registry site can be informationally improved if you put his name in the search field instead of hers since it will list both her current and soon-to-be last names. (I think John at the Corner is calling BS because of that).
Posted by: blogRot at July 26, 2007 04:20 PM (EKMxC) Posted by: Slublog at July 26, 2007 04:21 PM (R8+nJ) Posted by: VP at July 26, 2007 04:22 PM (kTTiP) 157
Dude knows how to hit up on the liberal college girls. She said she was making me a pot...{sniff} Posted by: Otter at July 26, 2007 04:22 PM (JefgB) 158
Purple Avenger, better yet, be careful about posting office gossip after saying where you work. Posted by: Dianna at July 26, 2007 04:23 PM (qrFCz) 159
Guys, I want to be the voice of caution here vis-a-vis the details of this Beauchamp's life (pending marriage, possible girlfriends, and whatnot). The internet doth giveth, and the internet doth taketh away: do remember that many people have the same names, and even the same birthplaces. Some nefarious folks may even be planting these little nuggets around to make the unwary look foolish.
We already know what we need to know about this turd anyway. He'll have some close attention paid by his Company CO and the JAG, you may be assured, and this process will be substantially less fun than anything we can collectively do to him. And as for the TNR: remember that this is the same outfit that produced Stephen Glass. One more fabulist among the multitudes isn't all that interesting. I vote we move on to more important matters, like making fun of Dave in Texas. Posted by: Monty at July 26, 2007 04:23 PM (/V4PN) 160
I'm trying to think of any jokes I made at purples expense that are gonna come back to haunt me sometime in the future after that. Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 26, 2007 04:24 PM (QTv8u) 161
I vote we move on to more important matters, like making fun of Dave in Texas
I heard Dave is getting his crystal balls waxed. Posted by: Mr Minority at July 26, 2007 04:25 PM (NJi0O) 162
Crazy Stuff , by John Podhoretz at NRO - There's a lot of crazy stuff circulating around the Internet about Scott Beauchamp. Some of it is from his own literarily overwrought blog, which reveals Beauchamp is an ambitious guy who was hooked on portentous and pretentious writing (his own and other writers') well before he arrived in Baghdad. But there's other crazy stuff too. Someone has purportedly discovered that Beauchamp is engaged to a New Republic staffer because of an Internet wedding registry. I'm not linking to it because, after looking through it, I think it's spurious — only six gifts are sought, no one's bought any of them, and there are no other items registered in their names at any other wedding site. If someone is now manufacturing bogus wedding registries to prove something — even to expose a relationship that actually exists — then there's a lot more lunacy attaching to Beauchamp's tales besides the details of the tales themselves, true or untrue.Posted by: David Ross at July 26, 2007 04:25 PM (Mi7Wp) 163
Dude knows how to hit up on the liberal college girls. It maybe his only redeeming quality.
Yeah, but getting liberal college girls in the sack is as easy as, well, getting liberal college girls in the sack. Posted by: OregonMuse at July 26, 2007 04:26 PM (WqDqW) 164
I don't know about Damon, but I used to hang with a guy who was the NYPD's premier wiretapper back in the 60's and early 70's. He taught me a lot.
Maybe I'll write a treatise on how to bug an office next. That's always fun. Did you know a fully functional bug with a broadcast range of a couple hundred feet can be fit into a 3 into 1 plug adapter? Slap that baby in, walk away and enjoy crystal clear conversations on a weather band channel ;-> Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 26, 2007 04:26 PM (natUQ) Posted by: mojo at July 26, 2007 04:26 PM (g1cNf) 166
Not that I would ever advocate such clearly illegal stuff of course. This conversation is for "entertainment purposes" only.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 26, 2007 04:28 PM (natUQ) 167
King Salmon, Alaska.
Hey I have actually been there!! It is in spitting distance of BumFuck, Alaska, but not as pretty. Posted by: Mr Minority at July 26, 2007 04:28 PM (NJi0O) 168
Pace John "Holier Than Thou" Podhoretz, there's a better registry showing this same engagement, and that they are already married:
Search Crate and Barrel for Scott Beauchamp, get the registry for Scott and Elspeth. http://www.crateandbarrel.com/gr/guest/viewRegistry.aspx?grid=2315858 Posted by: FoundRegistry at July 26, 2007 04:29 PM (REXOp) Posted by: Enas Yorl at July 26, 2007 04:29 PM (4Au3T) 170
So far the only fallout in this debacle is the firing of Gracie. And it will probably be the only fallout. Beuchamp will be nominated for a Pulitzer and a Nobel. And Elspeth will be on the cover of Vanity Fair.
Now I really do know that we live in Bizarro universe. Posted by: Bart at July 26, 2007 04:30 PM (WG0f/) 171
I hear there's a nice shack on Shemya that is threatened by a polar bear invasion.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 26, 2007 04:30 PM (natUQ) 172
Not that I would ever advocate such clearly illegal stuff of course. This conversation is for "entertainment purposes" only.
Yeah, we know. Kind of like radar detectors. "This product is not to be used to aid in breaking the speed limit." Posted by: OregonMuse at July 26, 2007 04:30 PM (WqDqW) 173
He didn't endure a 24 hour bus ride to participate in a march, he endured a 24 hour bus ride to fuck Reeve.
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 04:30 PM (3W27q) 174
It is in spitting distance of BumFuck, Alaska, but not as pretty.
I thought BumFuck was in Egypt. And it smelled like ass. Posted by: OregonMuse at July 26, 2007 04:31 PM (WqDqW) 175
I don't think I would still be marrying him after reading what he did to the women in the chow hall. I wouldn't fall asleep with that creep next to me, and I'm a guy. Posted by: Poppy at July 26, 2007 04:32 PM (dJFjD) 176
So this will be mentioned on Brit Hume's Grapevine in two weeks and that'll be the end of it?
Posted by: Bart at July 26, 2007 03:28 PM (WG0f/) Sometimes I think we share a brain. Ace deserves a pay raise, doesn't he? ;-) Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at July 26, 2007 04:33 PM (OMP6l) Posted by: Paulitics at July 26, 2007 04:34 PM (47+Ys) 178
I vote we move on to more important matters, like making fun of Dave in Texas You watch your ass Private Joker, or I'll stomp on your footie. Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 26, 2007 04:34 PM (pzen5) 179
As far as tradecraft goes, I would have gone with the steganographic approach -- send messages to Ace et al. by embedding them inside other, innocuous modes of communications.
Or at least use encryption. Jeez. Amateurs. Posted by: Phinn at July 26, 2007 04:36 PM (DiZv6) 180
Mont: I hope he gets every bit of the UCMJ he has coming. I suppose I do too, even though he appears to me to be just another dumb kid who thinks he's a writer who's found his audience. But my point is that even if he has some justice coming, I'm certainly not the guy to prosecute him. You, brave sir, are not similarly situated so your results may vary. Posted by: spongeworthy at July 26, 2007 04:36 PM (uSomN) 181
I would think Article 15 punished would be he easiests under the UCMJ. How about he spends his 12-hour shift each day teaching other privates how to change a humvee tire in knee deep sewage. We'll call it, the Beauchamp manuever. Posted by: Poppy at July 26, 2007 04:36 PM (dJFjD) 182
Dave now has hard crystal balls. With the original set, he felt quite vulnerable to leeches. If you don't get that reference, you have not taken the pains to know Dave. Posted by: Tushar D at July 26, 2007 04:37 PM (IlgNp) 183
Ace better produce some gay personal ads by Scott Beauchamp (a la Andrew Sullivan), soon, because his window for a scoop is closing. Posted by: Bart at July 26, 2007 04:37 PM (WG0f/) 184
Again, how come TNR is not refuting or admitting that he is married to Reeve? It certainly certain is not a small thing.
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 04:41 PM (3W27q) 185
I vote we move on to more important matters, like making fun of Dave in Texas
paraffin..... {snicker} Posted by: wiserbud at July 26, 2007 04:42 PM (IHbof) 186
Sometimes I think we share a brain. Ace better produce some gay personal ads I dunno. You and RWS sharing a brain is pretty gay. Posted by: Paulitics at July 26, 2007 04:44 PM (47+Ys) Posted by: benjamin at July 26, 2007 04:44 PM (dTJxx) 188
LGF has an updated post with some interesting chewy goodness:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=26414_Scott_Thomas_-_Engaged_to_TNR_Staffer&only Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at July 26, 2007 04:45 PM (WTn2v) 189
I suppose I do too, even though he appears to me to be just another dumb kid who thinks he's a writer who's found his audience. Spongeworthy, I gotta disagree. I don't care what his motivations were, he's smart enough to know what the results of his tall tales would be, and he knew what kind of publication he was sending them to was. So fuck him. He deliberately sent made up stories painting fellow American soldiers as psychos so he could start a new career as a tortured artist. That's as low as low gets. Monty nailed it: the guy is the worst sort of Blue Falcon. Posted by: UGAdawg at July 26, 2007 04:47 PM (d38jD) 190
I hope you folks are proud of the abuse you're piling on this guy - one of the "troops" you support so strongly!
I'm sure that once he's been proven truthful in his reporting that you'll acknowledge that, apologize to him and pledge to be more careful the next time - because we all know that there will be a next time, right? Isn't the online lynch mob what you children do best? Assholes. Posted by: Je support les troops at July 26, 2007 04:54 PM (MKUwj) 191
The thing about this is that had Beauchamp stuck to writing this stupid shit on his blog, his CO probably would have just given him a company-grade Article 15 and been done with it. A little yardwork or speedbump painting for a couple of weeks to work off the 'tude, and maybe a little lump-up by your defamed buddies after lights-out. But no: this dumbass has to get published.
So now his CO (and his CO's CO, and his CO's CO's CO, ad nauseam) have a major hair across their collective asses -- the press keeps calling, no one's getting any work done, and the Army has just taken another shot in the nuts from one of its own. You don't want to be Private Beauchamp, folks. He's making his unit look bad; his battalion, his brigade, his division (the historic 1st ID out of Fort Riley), his army. There are going to be guys who harbor a grudge towards this douchebag for the next hundred years. Posted by: Monty at July 26, 2007 04:56 PM (/V4PN) 192
Lynch the frenchie moonbat!
Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at July 26, 2007 04:57 PM (JefgB) 193
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I hope you folks are proud of the abuse you're piling on this guy - one of the "troops" you support so strongly!
I'm sure that once he's been proven truthful in his reporting that you'll acknowledge that, apologize to him If his stories are proven true, it will only prove that he's an asshole, and a criminal, and not simply a liar. Nobody supports troops who desecrate the dead, mock the wounded, run over dogs, destroy property, and/or fail to report these abuses to the chain of command. Douchebag. Posted by: benjamin at July 26, 2007 04:57 PM (dTJxx) 194
Je support les troops:
An inadequate troll, certainly not up to the usual standard here at AoSHQ. You fail at teh internets. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Posted by: Monty at July 26, 2007 05:00 PM (UdJCa) 195
Poor moonbats. They so wanted this to be true. It must be true. We are only smearing and swift-boating Beauchamp to protect Dear Leader and the New Order. Posted by: Bart at July 26, 2007 05:02 PM (WG0f/) 196
I just can't get over it. It's bad enough when a General or Lt. Col. fucks up. But this is a Private. Can you imagine some Lt. Col. or Brigadier having to deal with this shit in the middle of a shooting war, just because some fucking E1 or E2 has pretentions of literary greatness?
Holy shit, just thinking about it gives me cold chills. Posted by: Monty at July 26, 2007 05:03 PM (UdJCa) 197
wiserbud, don't make a fuckin maniac outta me.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 26, 2007 05:03 PM (pzen5) 198
(Actually, the General or Lt. Col. wouldn't deal with it. They'd have the First Sergeant do it. Just write out your will right now, PVT Beauchamp -- if your Top is anything like mine, your ass is freshly-mown grass.)
Posted by: Monty at July 26, 2007 05:04 PM (UdJCa) 199
Monty, This will most likely get Sergeant Major attention now, which usually translates to hell on earth. Posted by: UGAdawg at July 26, 2007 05:13 PM (d38jD) 200
Jes support, take another bong hit and go seepies.
Posted by: Tom at July 26, 2007 05:14 PM (02oyd) Posted by: La Cage Au Folles at July 26, 2007 05:22 PM (pzen5) 202
Sorry for being gone guys. I talked to one of his myspace friends, Jeanie and it's confirmed that she does indeed know him.
"Hi at first would you mind telling me who you are? - yes - i know him pretty well. Why are you asking? " I shot off a message back why I was asking regarding this issue and if she wouldn't mind answering my questions about this. Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 05:34 PM (4ep6C) 203
"My mother wears Army boots" - Stuff David in Texas said Vol II
Posted by: JFH at July 26, 2007 05:37 PM (c+Pwv) 204
The only 2 cents I've got. I grew up near Lindbergh HS in Stl. I'm looking at the local phone book, and there is a listing for Beauchamp in the area of the HS. Not worth much, but I really wanted to play. Posted by: rickinstl at July 26, 2007 05:39 PM (MvmeX) 205
"My mother wears Army boots" - Stuff David in Texas said Vol II
"And Daddy wore a Pink Tutu" - Stuff David in Texas said Vol III Posted by: Mr Minority at July 26, 2007 05:44 PM (NJi0O) 206
I would have gone with the steganographic approach
If doing anything electronic, this is the only way to go. I'd suggest something real innocuous like pictures of orchids posted on gardening news groups. I could probably write an packager/unpackager that would inject a steg message in a BMP image pretty quick if anyone is interested. Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 26, 2007 05:45 PM (natUQ) 207
So, Kaitain, is your new friend, Jeane, lurking?
Posted by: dave at July 26, 2007 05:50 PM (3W27q) 208
"Give your hearts to Jesus, boys - 'cause your ass belongs to ME!"
-- Standard DI rap, Camp Pendleton. Posted by: mojo at July 26, 2007 05:55 PM (g1cNf) 209
I just read through this buddyfucker's blog. The boy has serious issues and deluions of becoming the next Hemmingway. He seems to think having some military service will give him enough street cred to get a huge book deal or something. Here's an example of his rantings: Every morning I get up and feel retarded for joining the army.
Posted by: ticticboom at July 26, 2007 05:57 PM (DpBND) 210
dave,
No, the message I sent off hasn't been read yet. Myspace's mail system lets you know if a person read your message or not. I'll let you guys know what happens. Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 06:00 PM (4ep6C) 211
I enjoy your blog. That's not the issue.
This was nepotism. Sure. But I would never hire you to represent a serious organization: "BTW, I have long kinda-sorta wanted to embed in Iraq... if TNR wants to sponsor me, I am more than willing to do some light petting with Michelle Cottle, if need be." That is amazingly unprofessional, not funny. Posted by: Christoph at July 26, 2007 06:00 PM (hawOV) 212
Oh, I want to comment that the message I sent to majmaj has been read which makes him fully aware of the entire situation. I gave him complete details of why I was asking. So hopefully majmaj is going to give Beauchamp an asskicking.
Posted by: Kaitain at July 26, 2007 06:01 PM (4ep6C) 213
I enjoy your blog. That's not the issue.
But I would never hire you to represent a serious organization: Do you read this blog? Seriously. Ever read it? Posted by: benjamin at July 26, 2007 06:09 PM (HZeUC) 214
Yes, often, I've commented here several times and I've read it frequently for over a year.
Funny, often insightful, and I agree with the proprietor's politics... but would never recommend a serious organization with an important self___ and brand to protect hire him because of juvenile, and if in a workplace, actionable comments like that. Posted by: Christoph at July 26, 2007 06:12 PM (hawOV) 215
Christoph, I believe you do read and like Ace's blog.
Posted by: staunch Republican at July 26, 2007 06:14 PM (WG0f/) Posted by: staunch Republican at July 26, 2007 06:15 PM (WG0f/) 217
Thanks, staunch. In my case, I'm a staunch upper-C (as in Conservative Party) Conservative from Canada who campaigns vigorously as a volunteer during election times and takes an interest in U.S. politics and history as well.
After all, it is a rather important country to Canada. And the question here was about a job... I think Ace's politics wouldn't stop him from getting a job with all organizations, particularly politically motivated ones that share his broad philosophy... but comments about light petting in order to get a job, no matter how tongue-in-cheek, would. Posted by: Christoph at July 26, 2007 06:17 PM (hawOV) 218
Ah, you were being sarcastic. No matter. I wasn't. I was being truthful.
Ace doesn't have to knock off those comments, obviously, but neither do I. I find his blog amusing and found that comment amusing. But it's not particularly helpful to future employment and contract opportunities. Posted by: Christoph at July 26, 2007 06:18 PM (hawOV) Posted by: TomB at July 26, 2007 06:22 PM (2AkLB) 220
Christoph,
I think Ace knows he's crossed that bridge. It was discussed during the whole Marcotte/Edwards flap. But it's good to know that off-color unprofessional remarks are disqualifying at TNR but BS stories libeling our troops are a-ok with them. Posted by: Drew at July 26, 2007 06:22 PM (hlYel) 221
I said I found it funny.
Posted by: Christoph at July 26, 2007 06:23 PM (hawOV) Posted by: staunch Republican at July 26, 2007 06:23 PM (WG0f/) 223
"But it's good to know that off-color unprofessional remarks are
disqualifying at TNR but BS stories libeling our troops are a-ok with
them."
Very good point, Drew. I understand that. And agree. Posted by: Christoph at July 26, 2007 06:23 PM (hawOV) 224
Very droll, staunch.
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Yes, often, I've commented here several times and I've read it frequently for over a year.
If, in a year of frequent reading, it has taken until now for Ace to cross the Rubicon with you, I humbly suggest that you've missed quite a few posts. Posted by: benjamin at July 26, 2007 06:33 PM (HZeUC) Posted by: Captain Ned at July 26, 2007 06:39 PM (tgjtC) 227
The difference is context. He's making these comments in a discussion about a job. They're appropriate enough comments to make among friends... perhaps not wise, but within reason.
But the juxtaposition of the comment with what came in the same sentence was, probably intentionally, funny yet jarring: "BTW, I have long kinda-sorta wanted to embed in Iraq... if TNR wants to sponsor me, I am more than willing to do some light petting with Michelle Cottle, if need be." I'm sure there was an attempt at humour their and I've never denied that. My comment was that I wouldn't hire someone who made those statements. Too much potential for liability. And the fact an employer could be shown to have been aware of those statements ahead of time increases liability. Posted by: Christoph at July 26, 2007 06:41 PM (hawOV) 228
Here's another examle he wrote while in Germany, before his unit was in Iraq. Seems familiar, doesn't it? He sounds like Walter Mitty with a certain meta-narrative: Monday, May 08, 2006 Posted by: ticticboom at July 26, 2007 06:43 PM (DpBND) 229
"They watch the sliver of red sun fall slower and slower, silhouetting the little barbarians falling bodies" did he actually write that? no,it's gotta be sarcasm - you're trying to pull one over on me, aren't you tictic? you're not? my word
Posted by: charles at July 26, 2007 06:51 PM (mgp7a) 230
I can barely make my self read this drivel. The poems in particular are unbelievably bad. Kipling he most certainly is not! Here's another little tidbit. Seems the freak actually tried to get into ROTC while in Germany. Why he tried to do this just before his unit was sent to Iraq, I leave for him to explain...or not. Can't you just smell the moonbattiness:
My experience in the Army so far has been a lot like war: long doldrums of boredom intermixed with drunken whirlwind weekends of hanky panky and martini politics...both also lead to anguish and permanent emotional scars. I was invited to participate in the Green to Gold (ROTC) program at SIU-Carbondale, and I started my application packet today. I doubt that I'll get a scholarship due to my lackluster GPA, but at least I'll be coming home and going to school. My goal is to become an incompetent leader that gets fragged by 30 something NCO's at a forward operating base in Sadr City (emphasis mine). Heres to the memories and stardust kid. love, Scott
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"but I cant do it without getting through this army experience first, which will add a legitimacy to EVERYTHING i do afterwards" He's just a Kos wannabe. Posted by: blogRot at July 26, 2007 07:39 PM (EKMxC) Posted by: Monty at July 26, 2007 07:47 PM (AgSBq) 233
Its funny how TNR can fire one of their leakers immediately but the government can barely can one person (Mary McCarthy) of all the CIA leaks...
Obviously from reading this blog, the guy wants to be an author, and is simply serving in the Army for the experience purpose. Nothing wrong with that I guess. Posted by: Aaron at July 26, 2007 09:14 PM (BpErA) 234
I looked around his blog and saw mentions of his Facebook page. I found someone that I believe is him and added him as a friend. I doubt he'll bite since I'm not a woman . . .
Posted by: JCB at July 26, 2007 09:46 PM (N+xap) 235
Purple Avenger: the pudding is in the merry go round. I say again, the pudding is in the merry go round.
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Regardless of whether or not some of his allegations are true, this kind of sums up the Left's view that our troops are the enemy.
Allowing that TNR is roughly indicative of the Left in general, which I think is fair, their role in this is akin to an enemy operative in that they are actively seeking information that can be used against US troops in particular, and America more broadly. And of course even if the guy is telling the truth, the best that can be said of him is that he went covert on his buddies for personal gain, which of course establishes his complete lack of character and integrity. Posted by: Ray G at July 26, 2007 11:18 PM (YsM4s) 237
BadBrad posted in Hot Air's thread that he got in touch with a soldier in the creep's unit, and the creep has had two article 15's for being AWOL. You got to love loathe this leftist post-modern bullshit":
His exact quote to me several months ago when i asked him about some of the things he wrote was. ” just because it didn’t neccarly happen to us doesn’t mean it isn’t true”.
Dan Rather must be proud. Posted by: ticticboom at July 26, 2007 11:52 PM (DpBND) 238
Beauchamp and Reeve go back to their schooldays in Missouri. Maybe they weren't romantically involved then--but maybe they were (it's been noted that Reeve used Beauchamp as a source in two of her published stories).
Elspeth Reeve's MySpace identity is apparently "a real spicy braudra." Note her mushy comments at Thomas' MySpace page, and note the reference to Chimney Springs, a suburb of Atlanta. Just a bit too coincidental to be coincidence. Posted by: Brya at July 27, 2007 02:42 AM (9YJkn) 239
Haven't had time to read all the comments to see if this has been corrected, but Scott Beauchamp is engaged to a German/American woman named Priscilla. She lives in Germany, has a myspace page. Not trying to involve her in this, but this whole thing is getting out of hand.
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I'm pretty sure Ace would rape and kill his own mom's dog if Dick Cheney would just pat him on the head afterwards.
Posted by: MoeLarryAndJesus at July 27, 2007 10:26 AM (U3brA) 241
wow, you guys are really off your rockers. somehow this information about his personal life means that his story is false? do you actually have any proof that it is factually incorrect? you do realize the TNR has been a PRO-war publication, don't you? geesh.
Posted by: Tim at July 27, 2007 11:02 AM (O3LRT) 242
Wow, this is so much more useful than picking up a gun and fighting. As a former infantryman, I can't recall ever encountering the rantings of a bigger pussy than you. The fight is over there, you ass. But you'd rather run your mouth over here. You couldn't cut it in the service anyway. Too big a mouth, and balls too small.
Posted by: tiredofreadingshitfromwarcheerleaderpussies at July 27, 2007 11:11 AM (93mim) 243
The fact that this guy exists and is in Iraq proves that all you guys are fools and/or liars. You guys are embarrassed by this, so you go after him and his family every which way you can in order to punish him for your embarassment. Bullies are cowards.
Posted by: Laney at July 27, 2007 12:04 PM (+LMuH) 244
I'm amazed at all of you who decry this guy. Don't you love the war? Yet HE'S the one over there. If he's such a moonbat, why pick such a dangerous job? Sure the guy probably has a few screws loose, but it doesn't mean he's not telling the truth. Do you automatically assume someone is NOT telling the truth? If so, why do you believe Bush, Cheney, Gonzalez, etc etc... because they've proven their trustworthiness? Posted by: LnGrrrR at July 27, 2007 12:05 PM (tyX77) 245
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Troll? Perhaps, but the question reminds valid.
Posted by: LnGrrrR at July 27, 2007 12:50 PM (tyX77) 247
C'mon answer the question in 244 guys, it's legit. Blind faith in the leaders, but not the foot soldiers? Strange.
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There won't be an answer forthcoming. It doesn't fit the agenda.
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I guess the Juan Cole affair didn't sufficiently chasten you. Now you have to wrongly attack one of our troops.
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The following was found at Op-For: 'I’m active Army & an Iraq vet. I just pulled up “Scott Thomas Beauchamp” on the secure “Army Knowledge Online” website. It lists his current rank as “PV2″. (That data is kept accurate via pay records on that website.) In his Sep 06 blog post he listed his rank as “Private First Class”. That indicates that without a doubt he was busted at least one rank as part of Article 15 proceedings under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and he likely has a strong ax to grind with his chain of command.' URL: http://op-for.com/2007/07/scott_thomas_exposed.html (That Beauchamp currently identifies himself as 'Private', vice 'Private First Class' or 'PFC' would seem to support the above statement found at Op-For.) Posted by: Michael Sheehan at July 29, 2007 08:26 PM (1YNU3) 251
I asked people on AKO whatsiwhat with this guy. I got you and a bunch of others. The guy probably will get an admin: I doubt if they want the bother of charging him except maybe some NJP. What might be good would be a Summary which is a Federal Conviction. Might get a BCD, but I think admin is it. What surprised me is that he is not in literal fear of his life. All I can say is that he must be so insignif, that no one would bother. He will be in good shape once he gets back to NYC and marriage, being view as yet another martyr. He should get some basic make work.
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