Overnight Open Thread - TGIF Edition (Mætenloch)
Welcome to Friday all. Just a few more days until we enter the holiday zone. Oh and don't forget that tomorrow is International Talk Like a Hobo Day
Why You Should Never Talk to the PoliceHere's a fascinating talk by a law professor and a police detective where they explain why you should never talk to the police. Even if you're innocent and/or completely uninvolved. And they make a very good case against it. Fair warning - it is a longish legal lecture but don't let that scare you - it really is interesting and worth your time. Now I had always heard this advice and understood the general reasoning behind it, but here the speakers actually give specific examples of how an innocent person could easily incriminate themselves by accident when questioned by a skilled detective. And yet if everyone followed their advice, many if not most crimes would go unsolved and we'd be a worse, more lawless society for it. So it's a trade off between the personal and common good. The best outcome is that you follow this advice and everyone else doesn't. And yeah that's kind of unsatisfying but at least now you're a more knowledgeable moron when it comes to this issue.
AoSHQ Lifestyle Tip: Use a Water Filter To Upgrade Val-u-rite to Quality Vodka
Even the NYT is getting on the cheap stuff bandwagon.
Here's an article from the 1909 Los Angeles Times showing that only 1 out of every 20 murderers was actually executed. So much for the good ole days. Apparently Ronald McDonald Has a Sexy Daughter
Not bad for a ginger. And as a youtube commenter helpfully points out, apparently there's some cameltoe at 0:16. Man Awakened in Ditch with Moonshine and a Rifle
Okay now without looking, name the state. And for extra points give the name the moron uses on the ONT. US Postal Service Considers Stopping Saturday Mail
Getting mail on Saturday is nice and all but I could live without it. Tonight's post brought to you by the Bush family Christmas photo, 1989:
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Posted by: wherestherum at November 20, 2009 10:13 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 20, 2009 10:16 PM (1O93r)
Hi Rum. Welcome back to the west coast!
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 10:16 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 20, 2009 10:16 PM (QECjC)
Posted by: wherestherum at November 20, 2009 10:16 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: eman at November 20, 2009 10:17 PM (5kUSm)
And I can wear flip flops in November again without my toes freezing! Yay!
Posted by: wherestherum at November 20, 2009 10:17 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: Gabriel Syme at November 20, 2009 10:17 PM (X2xSP)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 10:18 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 10:18 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2009 10:18 PM (F+U5/)
Posted by: mystry at November 20, 2009 10:19 PM (kmgIE)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 10:19 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: wherestherum at November 20, 2009 10:19 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: eman at November 20, 2009 10:19 PM (5kUSm)
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 10:19 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Editor at November 20, 2009 10:19 PM (YX6i/)
I didn't think I would, but I actually kinda miss being on the east coast. Feels kinda weird to be home.
Posted by: wherestherum at November 20, 2009 10:20 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: The Boobie Watcher (rdb) at November 20, 2009 10:20 PM (8Vb5f)
The only problem is, I usually see the skull before I read the headline, so I don't know which music works better for a given story.
Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at November 20, 2009 10:20 PM (I9Jek)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 20, 2009 10:20 PM (QECjC)
Not buzzed yet. Waiting for my pizza to get here so I get some food in me before I start drinking.
OK, well I did drink another shot of Jagermeister, but that was purely for medicinal purposes.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 10:21 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: The Boobie Watcher (rdb) at November 20, 2009 10:22 PM (8Vb5f)
Posted by: jason at November 20, 2009 10:22 PM (0dxbq)
Posted by: mystry at November 20, 2009 10:23 PM (kmgIE)
http://icecap.us/
Posted by: Def Leppard at November 20, 2009 10:23 PM (hIOnV)
OK, well I did drink another shot of Jagermeister, but that was purely for medicinal purposes.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 10:21 PM (RZ8pf)
Ohhhh, runahhh !!
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 10:23 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 10:23 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: polly at November 20, 2009 10:23 PM (l9rLH)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2009 10:24 PM (F+U5/)
So, those of you in Seattle, there is a coupon running in the Seattle Times (I don't buy it, someone gave it to me, I swear) that if you buy 5 bottles of 750ml booze from the company who imports Bacardi's you get $45 back. So, I spent $85 on booze tonight and will get $45 back. We need all the help we can get in this shithole.
Posted by: Editor at November 20, 2009 10:24 PM (YX6i/)
Posted by: sissoed at November 20, 2009 10:24 PM (XpBZo)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2009 10:25 PM (F+U5/)
Posted by: wherestherum at November 20, 2009 10:25 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: Peaches at November 20, 2009 10:25 PM (9Wv2j)
I don't mind Burberry, if it is a light application, like one scarf. But, these women who be-deck themselves in Burberry seriously need to re-think their fashion sense.
I have the best pair of red patent leather Burberry boots.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 10:27 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2009 10:24 PM (F+U5/)
Its the Shakespearean trained American actors response to someone who refuses to go to Cathedral.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 10:27 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2009 10:28 PM (F+U5/)
Posted by: mystry at November 20, 2009 10:28 PM (kmgIE)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 10:29 PM (RZ8pf)
Stargate Universe: Life Discussion Thread
Late again this week. Somehow I seem to be getting stuck in fairly demanding legal discussions with judges just as the clock hits 5pm. That's gotta stop.
No time to look for an SGU photo, so how about a re-do from happier times?
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No really, they suck so bad the rest of the show would look good in comparison.
Just saying......
Well that and maybe a better role for Major Rack. But you morons already thought of that.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at November 20, 2009 09:39 PM (ijjAe)
Posted by: Dave C at November 20, 2009 09:42 PM (qmecx)
Each one of those BSG chicks is like the antidote to Viagra. Can you post a hot cheerleader chick to make up for this obvious treachery Malor ?
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 09:42 PM (+FzLa)
Question: where is the crew getting all its food? They've got water with microbes they've had to get rid of by poisoning themselves, but where's the food coming from? How are they exercising on the ship sans a good quantity of complete protein? Showers? Toilets?
Posted by: theblogprof at November 20, 2009 09:45 PM (UDqdp)
Posted by: Rodney at November 20, 2009 09:46 PM (6WxDr)
Next episode ship is out of power again and Eli gets blamed.
Posted by: eman at November 20, 2009 09:46 PM (5kUSm)
Posted by: theblogprof at November 20, 2009 09:49 PM (UDqdp)
But the final episode of BSG sucked. How come final episodes just about always suck?
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 20, 2009 09:53 PM (QECjC)
Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 09:54 PM (XH/G8)
Posted by: trainer at November 20, 2009 09:57 PM (yCWYQ)
Posted by: eman at November 20, 2009 09:58 PM (5kUSm)
Posted by: Rodney at November 20, 2009 09:59 PM (6WxDr)
"Question: where is the crew getting all its food?"
Not watching this week's episode yet, but I thought they were stuck with whatever rations they brought with them--some PowerBars and some kinda gruel/oatmeal/vomit-looking substance. I imagine hunger would be down accordingly. Though maybe someone's laid claim to the Senator's body when they run out of food. Wonder how a vaccum works for preserving meat?
I'm going back to Battlefield: Bad Company 2 for the time being.
I'll watch this later when my other means are available (not to mention being able to fast forward). I wonder how many times people will whine and cry this episode. Just for once I'd like to see someone to say "Man (or woman, to be PC) the fuck up and deal with it! You can cry once we've survived!"
Posted by: aggiebc at November 20, 2009 09:59 PM (xhPKT)
Posted by: theblogprof at November 20, 2009 09:59 PM (UDqdp)
Posted by: theblogprof at November 20, 2009 10:00 PM (UDqdp)
How did they leave the "Time" episode just hanging and unresolved.
WTF?!
Argh this show pisses me off so bad.
Posted by: Sir Elliot at November 20, 2009 10:00 PM (DUNS7)
"But the final episode of BSG sucked. How come final episodes just about always suck?"
I think SciFi (or SyFy I guess now) has adopted the policy of "you'll take whatever crap we give you in the final episode, at least we didn't cancel the show with a cliffhanger!"
Parts of the last episode of BSG were really bad though. Complete cop outs and nonsense on several plot points, almost like the writers didn't think ahead until the last two episodes only to think "Oh, Shit, I guess we better come up with some way to end everything!"
Posted by: aggiebc at November 20, 2009 10:03 PM (xhPKT)
Man I have this whole love/hate thing with Chloe. Posted by: Rodney at November 20, 2009 09:59 PM
I've noticed that some lighting is not favorable to her looks.
Posted by: Buddy Bizarre at November 20, 2009 10:07 PM (Yn2A0)
I'm about to give up on this show... it doesn't make sense. I've tried to give it some time.. let it develop.. do it's thing until I understood.. but what just happened? Is everyone going to die off from that bug in Time or did they just fix it without a mention?
Also, anyone in the military, was it like that? The guys I know that are former military are pretty square when under pressure. I can't imagine a special forces team in Afghanistan going nuts like this crew, much less the folks who would clear to be sent offworld. I can understand the civilians melting down a bit, but the military guys are just nuts.
Posted by: Allen at November 20, 2009 10:07 PM (V94RM)
Posted by: mystry at November 20, 2009 10:13 PM (kmgIE)
Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 10:14 PM (XH/G8)
I agree that the sex is overdone. It's not some payoff to the relationships the writers want to pretend it is, it's all throwaway. Except maybe the bit involving the Commander and his wife. Or it would have been if Talbot was actually having an affair with her. Even in the case of the lesbians, it served no purpose other than to say "Look, we have lesbians!"
As for the facilities, the ship was designed for Ancients that were basically human, so basic sanitation needs are probably dealt with. But I'd rather see details like that established than all the pointless sex.
It's not bad enough that I'm going to stop watching. Yet. But they really need to get *something* going. Like maybe the Ancient on board is a serial killer or something.
Posted by: Methos at November 20, 2009 10:14 PM (CoDwG)
It went unsaid in Time, but presumably they all injected themselves with venom from the chest-drilling creatures inhabiting the jungle/swamp planet they should have called Degobah. So they're all good now since they've come out of their comas. Or something. And they can freely drink water contaminated with parasites.
Posted by: theblogprof at November 20, 2009 10:16 PM (UDqdp)
Posted by: even voyager was better than this at November 20, 2009 10:18 PM (wk1nH)
Posted by: jason at November 20, 2009 10:23 PM (0dxbq)
Posted by: Kevin at November 20, 2009 10:27 PM (b2KB4)
Landrieu Successfully Louisiana Purchased; Says She's "Leaning Towards" Vote to Open Debate on Destruction of American Economy
Thanks to AHFF Geoff.Comments
Posted by: steevy at November 20, 2009 08:47 PM (NP5DE)
Posted by: profligatewaste at November 20, 2009 08:49 PM (b3rrc)
She's just keeping up the ancient Louisiana tradition of being the most corrupt state in the Union. This isn't even an eyebrow-raiser for Louisiana politics. It is the land of Huey Long, remember. She's doing ole Kingfish proud.
Posted by: Monty at November 20, 2009 08:51 PM (L12sc)
So the term "Blue Dog" is now officially inoperative, right? As in, that dog don't hunt.
See what I did there? Thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the sterno-warmed carcass-du-jour.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 08:53 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 20, 2009 08:55 PM (ympAm)
Stop the torture just get it over with for fuck's sake.
Posted by: kansas at November 20, 2009 08:55 PM (i0WE5)
Posted by: BTMintheSTL at November 20, 2009 08:57 PM (4X3d1)
Posted by: Cloward-Piven at November 20, 2009 09:00 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: Albert Swearengen at November 20, 2009 09:01 PM (I3Udb)
Posted by: steevy at November 20, 2009 09:02 PM (NP5DE)
Posted by: Dr Carlo Lombardi at November 20, 2009 09:03 PM (2JBGY)
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:05 PM (MCHyX)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 20, 2009 09:06 PM (Oq21Q)
She won't have to. I believe that should procedure go beyond this point, Reid can employ the "nuclear option." The really at-risk Dem seats will be able to avoid the cloture vote and the bill will pass with Reid giving them the OK to not toe the party line.
This vote is essentially for the marbles as I've understood it. Any parliamentarians in the house?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:06 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 09:07 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: olympia snowe at November 20, 2009 09:09 PM (PD1tk)
Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 09:10 PM (XH/G8)
Posted by: curious at November 20, 2009 09:11 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Dan at November 20, 2009 09:11 PM (KZraB)
Posted by: MPFS Indentured Fish Stick to the State at November 20, 2009 09:13 PM (PBGAP)
Posted by: muggedbyreality at November 20, 2009 09:13 PM (QY0u0)
Posted by: jewells at November 20, 2009 09:13 PM (lv7H+)
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I believe that Harry needs 60 votes twice, once to open debate and the other to close debate. So unlike the House, all the Dems in the Senate will have to walk the plank.
Posted by: Opus at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (IebeI)
Posted by: jewells at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (lv7H+)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: TXMarko at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (U6aVC)
Posted by: rplat at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (G1ArL)
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (MCHyX)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2009 09:16 PM (Poe30)
Two women have bigger balls than all the democratic shit masquerading as American men in the Senate. Leave it to two women to save our sorry asses for f|_|cks sake.
Once again, this is f|_|cked up, and I know about being f|_|cked up.
Posted by: white punk at November 20, 2009 09:18 PM (eA3tl)
Posted by: Opus at November 20, 2009 09:19 PM (IebeI)
Posted by: curious at November 20, 2009 09:19 PM (p302b)
Rules? We don't need no stink'in rules.
Constitution? Shit, that's so far down the hole they wouldn't notice.
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:20 PM (MCHyX)
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2009 09:21 PM (s1n4Z)
Posted by: curious at November 20, 2009 09:22 PM (p302b)
In fact, there is a part of me that would love to see the Dems go ahead and use the nuclear option, heads might literally roll. Surely Reid, Lincoln and several other senators will all loose there jobs over shenanigans like that. If they think the tea-baggers are rapid home grown terrorists now, wait until they try to pass legislation in this shifty way.
Posted by: BTMintheSTL at November 20, 2009 09:23 PM (4X3d1)
Because the crooks write the rules.
Seriously. This is what has become of democracy. They've been doing this shit for ages but only now do we see the sausage-making up close and in real-time. THIS is representative government even when it isn't listening to us. The raiding of the treasury is standard operating procedure.
The GOP will need to man up a filibuster this at some point. Hell, gather phone books from every city in the nation and read all the names of the people affected by this universal mandate if necessary.
Do you see anyone from the Right willing to do this?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:23 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: TXMarko at November 20, 2009 09:25 PM (U6aVC)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 09:25 PM (MMC8r)
I'm betting Harry already has figured out his dicked in 2010, O has offered him a sweet job, and he no longer cares.
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:25 PM (MCHyX)
We're still doomed. This thing passes. Only the price of the bribe with taxpayer money goes up.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:26 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: John McCain at November 20, 2009 09:28 PM (Uc/xV)
On the bright side, we know what that whore's price is now.
Posted by: GarandFan at November 20, 2009 09:29 PM (ZQBnQ)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:30 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 09:15 PM (DIYmd)
Don't be 100% sure. These guys have been using the inevitability trick for a long time now. The notion that it will pass scares legislators who want to be on the winning side.
Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2009 09:31 PM (ItSLQ)
What am I thinking? Counting on the guts of a former Grand Klegle!
We really are fucked.
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:31 PM (MCHyX)
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 09:34 PM (MCHyX)
Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2009 09:34 PM (ItSLQ)
Hey, I live here three weeks a month, I'm a constituent. Sort of.
Posted by: SGT Dan at November 20, 2009 09:37 PM (ZP+gj)
Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2009 09:41 PM (ItSLQ)
Posted by: TexasJew at November 20, 2009 09:41 PM (z+twQ)
SGT Dan, we now use the word "scrunt". Advertisers, and all.
And does anyone think Landrieu is going to be running for re-election? My money is on her becoming the head of the National Ambulance Service or something. $100M will be burnin' money for her in the near future.
Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 09:41 PM (XH/G8)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:43 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: Stifler at November 20, 2009 09:46 PM (1kwr2)
Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 20, 2009 09:47 PM (hCQG5)
Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 09:47 PM (XH/G8)
They are using our battered economy as a piggy bank and our currency as toilet paper while the MSM looks on, cheerleading. Too many of us have a real stake in this place and don't want to join the looting mob, running out of the busted-out stores with the goodies.
No, there will be a rather sharp reaction from the actual victims of all this massive thieving, and I believe it will become violent.
Posted by: TexasJew at November 20, 2009 09:51 PM (z+twQ)
Posted by: Truman North's kids at November 20, 2009 09:52 PM (XH/G8)
Posted by: Liberalnitemare at November 20, 2009 09:52 PM (09Qdq)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 09:55 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 20, 2009 09:55 PM (hCQG5)
Posted by: mghorning at November 20, 2009 09:58 PM (lH0T0)
That's an agreement I could live with. They can even have the Lamestream Media to make Utopia seem more palatable.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 10:03 PM (3nPNg)
Yeah, $10 million with a minimum 10 hour purchase. But in return for that, she'll not only screw you but every other taxpayer in the country!
Things do get messy after a while, though: they don't call her the "Louisiana Bayou" for nothing.
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 20, 2009 10:03 PM (QECjC)
Posted by: elliot m at November 20, 2009 10:04 PM (0a6dS)
Posted by: mystry at November 20, 2009 10:04 PM (kmgIE)
Posted by: elliot m at November 20, 2009 10:07 PM (0a6dS)
Posted by: nikkolai at November 20, 2009 10:07 PM (U0lNn)
Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 10:08 PM (XH/G8)
Posted by: mghorning at November 20, 2009 10:10 PM (lH0T0)
No, because the bribe is in the bill.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2009 10:11 PM (F+U5/)
Posted by: tdpwells at November 20, 2009 10:12 PM (Ei3oZ)
The nation doesn't suck.
53% of us got a running case of the stupids last year.
25% of us are unimaginably retarded.
All our politicians are in the latter category.
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 10:13 PM (MCHyX)
Any other Los Angeles area Morons going to the Glendale gun show this weekend?
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at November 20, 2009 10:15 PM (vupGF)
Suck.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2009 10:16 PM (F+U5/)
Posted by: mghorning at November 20, 2009 10:17 PM (lH0T0)
Posted by: nikkolai at November 20, 2009 10:18 PM (U0lNn)
Posted by: jason at November 20, 2009 10:24 PM (0dxbq)
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 10:26 PM (MCHyX)
I used to be in the lumber bizz, Thanks to Spotted Owl, Thanks to libs everwhere, most wood products come from elsewhere. Libs have destroyed the tree harvest in America. They rather see it burn. Like huge wildfires in SO CAL. Clean up the dead forrests, plant new seedlings, NO
A Renuable resorce promoted by the greens? Well, thats not what we ment.
Posted by: everyday at November 20, 2009 10:27 PM (YR3yJ)
Home-Made Belt-Fed Full-Auto Shotgun; Plus: Super Ginormous Tank Skeet
I feel very bad for whatever miscreant is standing in 15 degree arc directly in front of this weapon.
Home-Made Belt-Fed Shotgun - Watch more Funny Videos
Super ginormous tank skeet:
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Posted by: CDR M at November 20, 2009 08:43 PM (cvmTR)
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Posted by: CoolCzech at November 20, 2009 08:45 PM (QECjC)
You mean like, featuring Helen Thomas or something? Thankfully... no.
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 20, 2009 08:48 PM (QECjC)
I feel very bad for whatever miscreant is standing in 15 degree arc directly in front of this weapon.
I have an idea who I'd like to see in front of it.
Heres a hint. Whats fat, insignificant and wheres a pony-tail ?
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Posted by: TXMarko at November 20, 2009 09:08 PM (U6aVC)
I would love to own an AA-12 but must make do with a Saiga 12 (a 12 ga AK) until then. Get 'em while you can as the factory is said to be bankrupt. You tube has many videos of Saiga 12s rock and rolling.
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Posted by: Arbalest at November 20, 2009 09:33 PM (Ym9lj)
Posted by: steevy at November 20, 2009 09:39 PM (NP5DE)
A closer look suggests that the tracks and hull match that of the Austrian SK-105. The tracks could be an upgrade of some kind, but the hull front and upper section, just above the track, points to the SK-105. But the video is dark, so it's tough to be sure.
Posted by: Arbalest at November 20, 2009 09:46 PM (Ym9lj)
Posted by: Roach Sanderson at November 20, 2009 09:47 PM (Gzb30)
26 There are/were only a few users of the SK-105, and the Australians are not listed, so I suspect it might be a de-miled one that was sold to a collector.
Also, I don't remember shots (with 0 or + elevation) landing within 100 meters and looking like a pyrotechnic. But it's been a while for me.
Posted by: Arbalest at November 20, 2009 09:53 PM (Ym9lj)
Posted by: RicardoVerde at November 20, 2009 09:53 PM (PBTsv)
OTOH, Skeet or trap, or even hunting Cape Buffalo (with even the original 75mm L70 gun) is clearly a sport only for the most discerning and adventurous of hunters.
This is now on my list.
Posted by: Arbalest at November 20, 2009 09:56 PM (Ym9lj)
Posted by: SK-105 at November 20, 2009 09:58 PM (hf9xG)
Posted by: Zombie General Custer at November 20, 2009 09:58 PM (AwGqy)
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I suspect his 'feed' problems come from insufficient mechanical force [and contact] on the feed pawl. A shotgun shell isn't that much heavier than a 30-6 cartridge, but it is 'bulkier'. Just a slight tweak should do it.
The only other problem is the 'linked belt': it's obviously 'custom' since getting disintegrating links to fit a 12 Ga. shell might be a bit much to ask for. Oh well.
Looks like somebody's gonna be getting a visit from the BATF, never-the-less.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2009 10:22 PM (lYKj1)
Posted by: jason at November 20, 2009 10:25 PM (0dxbq)
Bethel College Scores TD on Trick Play
The trick here is a little subtle and hard to see from a distance.
What happens is that the quarterback turns back and to the right, as if he's pitching or rolling out in that direction. But he then tosses the ball over his head, backwards and to the left.I wonder if this can be duplicated or if it's a one-off. The idea seems sound -- the defense moves in the direction the play seems to be going. If you throw the ball backwards over your head (without looking -- a timing play) they're not really going to be ready to make that interception. I'd like to see the NY Giants try this. We can't score in the red zone, and Eli Manning tends to throw interceptions when he's aiming and looking at his receiver, so... Thanks to Larissa.
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Posted by: Blue Hen at November 20, 2009 07:20 PM (1O93r)
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Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 07:21 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Janeane Garafalo at November 20, 2009 07:29 PM (khPxz)
No thread during the Colts-Pats game, but we get this? Ideological purity sure comes with a heavy price tag.
Posted by: Y-not being snarky at November 20, 2009 07:29 PM (sey23)
Posted by: toby928 at November 20, 2009 07:32 PM (PD1tk)
Posted by: Seinfeld at November 20, 2009 07:32 PM (VuLos)
They learned this from watching the Democrats pass legislation to destroy liberty.
Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 07:32 PM (XH/G8)
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 20, 2009 07:33 PM (1O93r)
6 My favorite play is the direct snap to the RB while the QB is walking over to the tightend and appearing to be changing the play. Our HS team used to run that.
Any variant of the Statue of Liberty is awesome. But, as a running purist...
Why not just run the option?
Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 07:34 PM (XH/G8)
http://tinyurl.com/ycbdxv
Posted by: FishFearMe at November 20, 2009 07:35 PM (4YamK)
Thanks ace, next time its fourth and 2 on my own 28 with the game on the line, I'll have to remember this one.
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Posted by: pat at November 20, 2009 07:47 PM (h4Zo6)
That looks like a one in a million type of play. The timing must be damn near perfect, and if one defensive back sniffs something funny, he'll blow up the play. Still, kudos to the coach for having the ingenuity and balls to pull it off.
Posted by: UGAdawg at November 20, 2009 07:49 PM (O4miG)
Posted by: Bill Belichick at November 20, 2009 07:51 PM (k9Ti8)
MORON ALERT!!
I followed a link to HuffPo's coverage of Ricky Hollywood, and stumbled across pictures of MEGAN FOX IN HER UNDERWEAR LIFTING HER FOOT ABOVE HER HEAD.
That is all.
Posted by: FUBAR at November 20, 2009 07:56 PM (eRJUD)
Still, kudos to the coach for having the ingenuity and balls to pull it off.
Posted by: UGAdawg at November 20, 2009 07:49 PM (O4miG)
That's real football. Manly men aren't ascared to take chances.Posted by: Tinian at November 20, 2009 07:57 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: FUBAR at November 20, 2009 07:57 PM (eRJUD)
Posted by: OregonMuse at November 20, 2009 07:58 PM (hoowK)
I find it somehow satisfying that Jintsfan is as unhappy with Eli as we are with Romo.
And remember Ace, it could be worse; it could be the Redskins (take that *pow*)
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 20, 2009 08:03 PM (djkiW)
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 20, 2009 08:05 PM (zDO4e)
And remember Ace, it could be worse; it could be the Redskins (take that *pow*)
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 20, 2009 08:03 PM (djkiW)
Ouch. That hurt.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 08:06 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Laptop-battery at November 20, 2009 08:12 PM (ZBfcO)
Posted by: EliSUCKS at November 20, 2009 08:15 PM (PfFpz)
According to the available information, at least.
Posted by: Sir Elliot at November 20, 2009 08:19 PM (DUNS7)
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Posted by: Tomador at November 20, 2009 08:32 PM (QzA2M)
Ara Parseghian won about a bajillion games by pulling off this kind of audacious stuff.
Worked at Pointe du Hoc, too.
America just loves to pull off this kind of shit. BTW -- I hate Notre Dame.
Posted by: Tinian at November 20, 2009 08:38 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Bloody climate change fraud bollocks what? at November 20, 2009 08:42 PM (JL3qV)
That's real football. Manly men aren't ascared to take chances
Hey, I'm as big a fan of gutsy calls and trick plays as anyone. But one has to be smart when making those calls. A trick play that blows up in a team's faces is a huge momentum swinger; one that blows up at the goal line and snuffs a scoring opportunity can kill a team's will to win.
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Posted by: jason at November 20, 2009 10:26 PM (0dxbq)
The New Louisiana Purchase: Landrieu's Vote Bought With $100 Million
Landrieu's vote bought with a $100 million sweetener. Section 2006 of ObamaCare says that all states that have had a disaster area in the last seven years get a share of this money, and then... eliminates each of those states except Louisiana. So it's a straight-up vote buy, disguised, barely, as something else.
Krauthammer suggested (on Brett Baier) that Lincoln should ask for at least $250 million, as she's in deeper trouble. How about a different job?While she might ask for a similar home-state largesse as Landrieu, that might not suffice for someone as vulnerable as Lincoln. She more likely needs an escape hatch. I polled some veterans of the Bush administration and the Senate who agreed with my hunch that the best way to help Lincoln is for President Obama to make her secretary of agriculture.Call: Mary Landrieu of Louisiana
202-224-5824 Ben Nelsonof Nebraska
202-224-6551 Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas
202-224-4843 Evan Bayh of Indiana
202-224-5623 Ben Nelson has already promised a "yes" vote but it can't hurt -- at least get him to follow through on his threat to sustain a filibuster if the abortion funding is left in the bill.
Comments
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 07:13 PM (MMC8r)
As much as hate crimes have to do with funding the military, I guess.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 20, 2009 07:13 PM (AwGqy)
If I were the Louisiana state AG, I'd have Landrieu picked up right now and thrown in the pogey for bribe taking.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 07:13 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at November 20, 2009 07:14 PM (0q2P7)
Nelson has caved and Landrieu is being bought off.
It's official. We're fucked.
All we have is Lincoln and Lieberman.
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 07:14 PM (MCHyX)
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 07:16 PM (MCHyX)
Posted by: Donna at November 20, 2009 07:17 PM (6heFO)
Posted by: Al at November 20, 2009 07:17 PM (VtygY)
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 07:17 PM (MCHyX)
There is an ugly part of me that says - Bring it on. Do your worst. Teach the American people that elections have fucking consequences.
If these Democratic fuckers had started out with the stated intent to destroy America, they could not have come up with a better plan. And 52% of us payed more attention to who was going to be on American Idol.
Fuck.
Posted by: LGoPs at November 20, 2009 07:18 PM (v/rEn)
Posted by: jfalcon, the patriot at November 20, 2009 07:19 PM (omGgx)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 07:19 PM (MMC8r)
Been calling Bayh's office all afternoon. Busy every time. Now the message box says it is full.
Posted by: Linda at November 20, 2009 07:22 PM (jDFF0)
And can you tell that I am hoping to Hell that this is what is going on?
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 20, 2009 07:24 PM (1O93r)
If they get it to debate it will pass.
Dingy Harry will pull the nuke option if need be. They will not let Obama fail this. Period.
Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at November 20, 2009 07:25 PM (MCHyX)
Didn't Biloxi, Miss also get wiped out by Katrina?
Don't they qualify? Or does the governor being Haley Barbor disqualify them?
Posted by: TakeFive at November 20, 2009 07:26 PM (/3pxq)
Currently all that sediment collects near the port of New Orleans and we (the US) dredges it to keep the rifer open for shipping, but those doing the job are federally mandated to dispose of it in the cheapest manner available, which is currently shipping it five miles to the coastal shelf and dumping it. Louisiana's plan to save its coastline is to pump that material along its coast, distributing it as the river used to. But that coast is going to run to the tens of billions of dollars, if not more.
That's what people in Louisiana care about. $100 million for health care doesn't mean shit when your state is washing out to sea as we speak.
Posted by: Methos at November 20, 2009 07:26 PM (CoDwG)
Posted by: ikilledamanwithatrident at November 20, 2009 07:27 PM (k9Ti8)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2009 07:28 PM (sYxEE)
When do the show trials begin and why do the Army Core of Engineers hate black people?
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 07:30 PM (+FzLa)
Shit, the levees to stop the Mississippi river from flooding were done a century ago, not a decade ago.
Posted by: Methos at November 20, 2009 07:30 PM (CoDwG)
The people responsible for this should be brought up on charges, convicted, and liquidated.
If this passes, I think we should use a new strategy. All conservatives should suddenly become enthusiastic about it, explaining to everyone that all healthcare will be free coming in Jan 1st. Start a meme that there will be no co-pays, free prescriptions for all and thank god for nancy pelosi and universal healthcare.
Then watch the ensuing hilarity
Posted by: Billy Barty at November 20, 2009 07:33 PM (IMSJ7)
Posted by: sybilll at November 20, 2009 07:35 PM (g+dOH)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 20, 2009 07:37 PM (YRjsF)
From a reliable staffer:
Phone calls are not going through at all now. Try calling my phone or any phone. It is not even the switchboard anymore. The entire Senate phone system has collapsed.
Posted by: Seinfeld at November 20, 2009 07:40 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2009 07:41 PM (VuLos)
I called the Congressional switchboard eleven (11) times today; each time, I got the "all circuits are busy" message. From approx. 11 AM til 5 PM eastern time... busy every time.
Good news? Maybe? Or they're just not all that interested in their former constituency?
Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 07:43 PM (XH/G8)
This used to be a great country, until we got all "compassionate:" about useless parasitic scumbags and helped to destroy our own childrens' futures.
But hey! We still get to watch "The Office".
Posted by: TexasJew at November 20, 2009 07:46 PM (z+twQ)
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Posted by: dogfish at November 20, 2009 07:56 PM (GQwdV)
He's already got a small-business-hating global-warming-believing manure-brained leftist stooge for Sec. Ag.
Posted by: HeatherKittehRadish at November 20, 2009 07:59 PM (OkT2m)
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We are the space robots. We are here to protect you from the Terrible Secret Of Space.
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Posted by: mystry at November 20, 2009 08:03 PM (kmgIE)
Sen. Bingaman, Udall,
I would encourage you to hold out your vote on the pending health care legislation until you get a sweetheart deal for the state of NM like Sen. Landrieu did for Louisiana. If you are going to vote for this bill that will accelerate the insolvency of the US government, we should at least get some money before we go belly up.
Seriously, we are facing an unfunded mandate of close to $60 trillion for Medicare, Medicaid and SS. I don't know how you can even consider this legislation (even with its spurious $500 billion of "savings" through gutting Medicare) with this pending catastrophe looming.
I guess you'll be retired by the point the system falls apart so you don't worry about it.
Enjoy your cushy Congressional pension while the rest of us slave away to pay back the money we owe to the Chinese and Japanese.
Posted by: rockhead at November 20, 2009 08:03 PM (RykTt)
(402) 391-3411
(402) 441-4600
(30
631-7614(30
293-5818(402) 209-3595
Landrieu's other numbers:
(504) 589-2427
(225) 389-0395
(31
676-3085(337) 436-6650
Her website sounds like she's already accepted the bribe.
Bayh's other numbers:
(317) 554-0750
(812) 465-6500
(260) 426-3151
(219) 852-2763
(812) 218-2317
(574) 236-8302
Blanche's other numbers:
1-800-352-9364
(870)382-1023
(870) 910-6896
(479) 251-1224
(870) 774-3106
Probably all closed for the weekend, but save this list for Monday.
Posted by: HeatherKittehRadish at November 20, 2009 08:09 PM (OkT2m)
Posted by: HeatherKittehRadish at November 20, 2009 08:09 PM (OkT2m)
Posted by: johnny_p at November 20, 2009 08:10 PM (ldoxy)
In other words, the bill spends two pages describing would could be written with a single world: Louisiana.
Posted by: rockhead at November 20, 2009 08:10 PM (RykTt)
Posted by: HeatherKittehRadish at November 20, 2009 08:13 PM (OkT2m)
I've got my torch in one hand and my pitchfork in the other. Just tell me when.
P.S. If it gets any worse, I've got guns too.
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: Iamnotanalcoholic
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Posted by: hutch1200 at November 20, 2009 08:39 PM (usUEb)
Good Lord. Sigh.
Let's talk about those ample breasted women instead.
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Posted by: butch at November 20, 2009 09:11 PM (myCYQ)
If Nelson does end up voting for the bill, then he still wouldn't have lied. It's his staffer who would have lied to you.
Nelson has an image of being a friendly, decent guy that he needs to uphold. If loyal staffers have to take a hit to maintain that image, well, them's the breaks.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2009 09:59 PM (F+U5/)
Charles Johnson Now Deleting Posts for Mentioning Hacked Global Warming Fraud Emails
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=003LKN94 http://www.filedropper.com/foi2009 The links above are to the AGW emails being discussed. I have not downloaded them and cannot vouch for them. I got the links from this article though and were I not on my work comp I would download them.Zapped. No reason given. The key to the scientific method is suppression of contrary data. Everyone knows that. Duh. It seems the very scientific jazz musician is somewhat less open to questioning global warming alarmism than lefty German paper Der Spiegel.
Stagnating Temperatures Climatologists Baffled by Global Warming Time-Out By Gerald Traufetter Global warming appears to have stalled. Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years. Some attribute the trend to a lack of sunspots, while others explain it through ocean currents. At least the weather in Copenhagen is likely to be cooperating. The Danish Meteorological Institute predicts that temperatures in December, when the city will host the United Nations Climate Change Conference, will be one degree above the long-term average. Otherwise, however, not much is happening with global warming at the moment. The Earth's average temperatures have stopped climbing since the beginning of the millennium, and it even looks as though global warming could come to a standstill this year. Ironically, climate change appears to have stalled in the run-up to the upcoming world summit in the Danish capital, where thousands of politicians, bureaucrats, scientists, business leaders and environmental activists plan to negotiate a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Billions of euros are at stake in the negotiations.Billions of euros are at stake? I wonder when it will occur to anyone that "billions of euros are stake" might have something to do with "the science is settled." These people believe George W. Bush starts wars in order to goose Haliburton's stock price by half a point but they don't ever consider that billions of euros being at stake might induce someone to deliberately fudge a regression analysis.
Reached a Plateau The planet's temperature curve rose sharply for almost 30 years, as global temperatures increased by an average of 0.7 degrees Celsius (1.25 degrees Fahrenheit) from the 1970s to the late 1990s. "At present, however, the warming is taking a break," confirms meteorologist Mojib Latif of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences in the northern German city of Kiel. Latif, one of Germany's best-known climatologists, says that the temperature curve has reached a plateau. "There can be no argument about that," he says. "We have to face that fact." Even though the temperature standstill probably has no effect on the long-term warming trend, it does raise doubts about the predictive value of climate models, and it is also a political issue. For months, climate change skeptics have been gloating over the findings on their Internet forums. This has prompted many a climatologist to treat the temperature data in public with a sense of shame, thereby damaging their own credibility. "It cannot be denied that this is one of the hottest issues in the scientific community," says Jochem Marotzke, director of the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg. "We don't really know why this stagnation is taking place at this point." Just a few weeks ago, Britain's Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research added more fuel to the fire with its latest calculations of global average temperatures. According to the Hadley figures, the world grew warmer by 0.07 degrees Celsius from 1999 to 2008 and not by the 0.2 degrees Celsius assumed by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. And, say the British experts, when their figure is adjusted for two naturally occurring climate phenomena, El Niño and La Niña, the resulting temperature trend is reduced to 0.0 degrees Celsius -- in other words, a standstill. The differences among individual regions of the world are considerable. In the Arctic, for example, temperatures rose by almost three degrees Celsius, which led to a dramatic melting of sea ice. At the same time, temperatures declined in large areas of North America, the western Pacific and the Arabian Peninsula. Europe, including Germany, remains slightly in positive warming territory. Mixed Messages But a few scientists simply refuse to believe the British calculations. "Warming has continued in the last few years," says Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK). However, Rahmstorf is more or less alone in his view. Hamburg Max Planck Institute scientist Jochem Marotzke, on the other hand, says: "I hardly know any colleagues who would deny that it hasn't gotten warmer in recent years."Incidentally, billions of euros are at stake.
The controversy sends confusing and mixed messages to the lay public. Why is there such a vigorous debate over climate change, even though it isn't getting warmer at the moment? And how can it be that scientists cannot even arrive at a consensus on changes in temperatures, even though temperatures are constantly being measured?Perhaps you suggested that too strongly. But then, billions in euros are at stake. The article goes on as the never-say-die Natural Climate Fluctuation Denialists posit suddenly that natural factors -- like the less-radiative sun, or the oscillations of the ocean that can store large amounts of heat, and then suddenly start releasing them -- explain the current cooling. But what they don't explain is why it is such natural forces are able to easily explain the missing "global warming" (and the global cooling, too), and yet aren't -- the science is settled! -- able to likewise explain a 1 degree rise in temperatures from 1980 to 1998. It seems natural factors are, bizarrely, capable of cooling only, and only when absolutely necessary to help "fix" the utterly-wrong computer models. The moment they get data suggesting some warming, there is absolutely no possibility whatsoever that these same powerful natural forces could have a thing to do with that.
... Marotzke and Leibniz Institute meteorologist Mojib Latif are even convinced that the fuzzy computing done by [climate-stagnation denier] Rahmstorf is counterproductive. "We have to explain to the public that greenhouse gases will not cause temperatures to keep rising from one record temperature to the next, but that they are still subject to natural fluctuations," says Latif. For this reason, he adds, it is dangerous to cite individual weather-related occurrences, such as a drought in Mali or a hurricane, as proof positive that climate change is already fully underway. "Perhaps we suggested too strongly in the past that the development will continue going up along a simple, straight line. In reality, phases of stagnation or even cooling are completely normal," says Latif.
Comments
(but don't confuse this with a crazy conspiracy theory, of course)
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:11 PM (FRErk)
Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at November 20, 2009 06:11 PM (tzcjs)
ace, as soon as I can figure out how to ban you from the internet you are so gone.
By the way, wanna buy some jeans ?
Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 20, 2009 06:12 PM (+FzLa)
Beyond whether the science has or has not been manipulated, I have always had 3 questions that led to my skepticism and that I have yet to hear a reasonable answer to:
1) If the threat is truly dire and humanity faces world wide calamity, then how in the world can any serious AGW adherent agree to exempting all the developing nations from participating in the proposed restrictions. Countries like India and China, which emit far more pollutants than we, with our infinately more refined technologies, do. If they are exempted will we still have temperate climes on our side of the globe? (That last point is rhetorical).
2) Why does nuclear power, which has been effectively choked off in the US for the last 30 years, never enter any of these discussions? It is demonstrably clean and even the Lefts much admired French get 80%+ of their energy from it. Why not us?
3) If this is truly unprecedented and man made then just how the fuck did we get out of the last Ice Age? Why isnt the earth just a big snowball?
Since I have yet to see reasonable answers to these fairly simple questions I am left with the suspicion
..no, near certainty, that this issue is just one of the latest attempts by Leftist, collectivist, communist motherfuckers to infiltrate and worm their way into every aspect of life to satisfy their totalitarian obsession.
Used to be you couldnt talk politics or religion at work, leaving mainly sports and the weather as the only safe topics. Thanks to these bastards, even talking about the weather is off the table. Any guesses on how theyre going to politicize sports? Probably the mascot names, come to think of it.
And oh, I almost forgot. Billions of euros are at stake. As well as ManBearPig's ill-gotten millions.
Posted by: LGoPs at November 20, 2009 06:13 PM (v/rEn)
Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg.
I did not know that he was a baseball clown and a Meterologist
Posted by: Lou at November 20, 2009 06:13 PM (LLOGQ)
Posted by: loppyd at November 20, 2009 06:13 PM (UJIeT)
I LOVE the hacker!
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at November 20, 2009 06:14 PM (MbyMv)
Just read an article from a Seattle Times reporter who I have gone back and forth with about G.W. and asked why some of the non AGW evidence is never mentioned. She had an article the other day about making sure we use real science when we talk about Health Care.
No mention about CRU and what appears to be illegality and fraud.
Posted by: AndrewsDad at November 20, 2009 06:15 PM (C2//T)
To all you warmers out there, as it continues to get colder your faces are going to get soooooo red.
You lying, lying f***s!
Posted by: Jack at November 20, 2009 06:15 PM (bvDV5)
who woulda thunk it.
Posted by: trailortrash at November 20, 2009 06:15 PM (2Z+7j)
Silly rabbit...
Chaz says:
Trick, of course, can also mean an effective technique, but if you were desperately hunting for anything smear-worthy, I suppose the word would stand out.
He would know.
Posted by: loppyd at November 20, 2009 06:16 PM (UJIeT)
Posted by: Ceiling Ponytail Cat at November 20, 2009 06:16 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2009 06:17 PM (jlvw3)
Posted by: Chuckle J. at November 20, 2009 06:18 PM (2JBGY)
You got at least one thing right on your Birther, Creationist, and Fascist blog, Ace.
Besides, I think those wonderful pro-AGW scientists were set up by Fascist Creationists.
And btw, you're banned from my Internets, Ace! I bid you adieu!
Posted by: Cahlres Jhonson (non-follower of Science!) at November 20, 2009 06:18 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: the slob at November 20, 2009 06:18 PM (i1+rx)
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 20, 2009 06:19 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at November 20, 2009 06:22 PM (tzcjs)
Yes, because the first thing budding scientists learn in ethics class is that massaging data is okay, if the cause is "correct", you ignorant slut.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 20, 2009 06:22 PM (otlXg)
I hope they don't intend to push their anti-science views into the classroom. Fucking evangelical erfers.
Posted by: lincolntf at November 20, 2009 06:23 PM (OyQiK)
Posted by: pat at November 20, 2009 06:23 PM (h4Zo6)
I'm going to be seriously obnoxious in 2013.
Posted by: fluffy, pitcher of softballs at November 20, 2009 06:23 PM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2009 06:17 PM (jlvw3)
You sure that didn't mean hide the recliner? Have you seen the size of Chucky's ass lately? He must take the bus now when he goes on his epic picture taking excursions.
Evidently marathon sessions of Batman: Arkham Asylum and bucket loads of pasta with marinara are starting to take a toll on his girlish figure.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 06:24 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 20, 2009 06:24 PM (otlXg)
Blazer
Have you seen the size of Chucky's ass lately?
Thankfully, no. But the image of the man boobs is seared - seared - into my memory.
Posted by: loppyd at November 20, 2009 06:26 PM (UJIeT)
Posted by: lotocoti at November 20, 2009 06:26 PM (Oxj60)
CJ is nothing more than a contrarian now. If the right was pushing global warming fraud he would be against it. Thats basically what the sad little cretin is about these days.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 06:27 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 20, 2009 06:27 PM (zDO4e)
And "We have to explain to the public?" What? You are a climatologist, not a politician. Your job is to solve the riddles of the universe, not be a tout for some hack ex-vice president who is making billions by fleecing the suckers.
Posted by: NJConservative at November 20, 2009 06:28 PM (/Ywwg)
I keep on visualizing Bike Boy the Jazz Singer stunt doubling in a Riefensthal film yelling "The Future Belongs to Me!".....
dunno why....
CJ and AP should open a joint blog.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 20, 2009 06:28 PM (P/PyQ)
Posted by: lincolntf at November 20, 2009 06:28 PM (OyQiK)
Heh. At 6:06 in the other thread, I suggested following the money, although I knew Ace needed no such reminding. At 6:07, I'm reading about "billions of Euros."
Ask and ye shall receive.
Five-star service. Hooboy.
Posted by: The Boobie Watcher (rdb) at November 20, 2009 06:29 PM (p5QqI)
CJ must be a speed reader. He read through all those megabytes of hacked emails in less than a few hours and promptly declared a nontroversy. It's astonishing that someone who is interested in the issue would be so hasty to declare that there could be _nothing_ of any interest in the internal correspondence of the organization that feeds much of the primary data to the rest of the climate scientists. Even a true AGW believer ought to be at least curious to see the clockwork.
Necessary disclaimer: of course I deplore hacking.
Posted by: gp at November 20, 2009 06:29 PM (qtl7U)
Posted by: stuiec at November 20, 2009 06:32 PM (7AOgy)
I said this about the time GOAT FUCKER CHARLES JOHNSON went SCHIZO.
Someone is paying Charlie the Pedophile. There is no doubt. I'm sure he gets paid in anal sex and in cash.
Posted by: gus at November 20, 2009 06:33 PM (Vqruj)
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2009 06:33 PM (oObEM)
Posted by: Mandy No Manners at November 20, 2009 06:34 PM (7FgWm)
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 06:35 PM (ec6zm)
Maybe I should try harder.
Posted by: lotocoti at November 20, 2009 06:26 PM (Oxj60)
He can't afford to ban you. Once he falls below the magic 100 registered user mark, Amazon will cancel its contract with him.
Posted by: stuiec at November 20, 2009 06:35 PM (7AOgy)
Keep ignoring facts. It's what you shit-for-brains lying AGW-cultists do best.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 20, 2009 06:36 PM (AwGqy)
Anyone wanna take a bet?
Godwin's law part II predicts that a Hitler Youtube video will be posted about this in the next 24 hours.
Posted by: Max Power is trying at November 20, 2009 06:37 PM (+wxCD)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 20, 2009 06:37 PM (yUybe)
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 06:37 PM (ec6zm)
I used to enjoy his site, but only go now to see the news aggregator hits at the top of the page. His choice of stories and the constant Palin basing, white power fascination, and save the planet pre-occupation has made him lethally dull.
I suspect, like some twisted Hannibal Lecter novel, Andrew Sullivan has killed and eaten Charlie, and now is impersonating him as a progressive thinking right wing blogger...
Shame. Might be something in the water down in CA.
Posted by: Francis at November 20, 2009 06:38 PM (yof3V)
Sharmuta: Sarah palin is a remarkable woman and a real inspiration !
Charles: Sarah Palin is a creationist and a Nazi.
Sharmuta: You are so right Charles, how did I not see that before? Thanks for enlightening me and making me see the the truth yet once again. Where would I be without you and your infinite wisdom Charles? Turning tricks at a Nashville truckstop again I suppose.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 06:39 PM (+FzLa)
If the threat is truly dire and humanity faces world wide calamity, then how in the world can any serious AGW adherent agree to exempting all the developing nations from participating in the proposed restrictions.
Continuing with that thought, if GW really is the existential threat you say it is, why the hell are you taking your eye off the ball and worrying about small beer like health care and Afghanistan. If we are all going to die, what the hell difference does it make if you control health care or not?
Posted by: pep at November 20, 2009 06:39 PM (DZyVK)
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 06:40 PM (ec6zm)
And oh, I almost forgot. Billions of euros are at stake. As well as ManBearPig's ill-gotten millions
Actually, I'm pretty sure it's hundreds of millions.
Posted by: 141 Driver at November 20, 2009 06:41 PM (JFNQ7)
Posted by: Mandy No Manners at November 20, 2009 06:41 PM (7FgWm)
Charles: Sarah Palin is a creationist and a Nazi.
Sharmuta: You are so right Charles, how did I not see that before? Thanks for enlightening me and making me see the the truth yet once again. Where would I be without you and your infinite wisdom Charles? Turning tricks at a Nashville truckstop again I suppose.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 06:39 PM (+FzLa)
After the election she even said "I voted for Sarah" - that was before being sent to the reeduction camp.
Posted by: loppyd at November 20, 2009 06:41 PM (UJIeT)
Cannot do it... But if the CJs of the world take a college level 'glacial geology' class, it might make a dent in their ignorance.
Posted by: Druid at November 20, 2009 06:41 PM (Gct7d)
Posted by: The Mayans at November 20, 2009 06:42 PM (1OYcp)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 06:44 PM (MMC8r)
Can the Lixards trade two "I Hate Palin" credits for one "Not Sure About AGW" credit?
What is the Chuckles-to-Reality exchange rate these days?
Posted by: lincolntf at November 20, 2009 06:44 PM (OyQiK)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 06:45 PM (MMC8r)
Not for long.
Posted by: Tim Geithner, summoner of inflation at November 20, 2009 06:46 PM (1OYcp)
Posted by: lincolntf at November 20, 2009 06:44 PM (OyQiK)
He could care less as long as you buy some mom-jeans or some dildos from his account at Amazon and feign the slightest interest in the lame ass shit he's reading on his Kindle.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 06:47 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: LGoPs at November 20, 2009 06:47 PM (v/rEn)
Posted by: Dede Scozzafava (I lost and now I'm horny) at November 20, 2009 06:48 PM (zDO4e)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 20, 2009 06:49 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque (has a long-unused LGF account) at November 20, 2009 06:49 PM (jV9DU)
"It's funny how quickly Charles has turned into the man he thinks he brought down, Dan Rather...."
Sad but true.
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at November 20, 2009 06:51 PM (7VET1)
Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at November 20, 2009 06:51 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: franksalterego at November 20, 2009 06:52 PM (GKyIE)
Posted by: Kilgrow Trout at November 20, 2009 06:53 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Banana In The Tailpipe at November 20, 2009 06:53 PM (dsBLF)
Posted by: Lucy Ramirez at November 20, 2009 06:53 PM (Hh13R)
I posted one non-descript challenge to Charlie the poop chute Johnson and I was banned.
I was banned faster than anyone in HISTORY.
Posted by: gus at November 20, 2009 06:53 PM (Vqruj)
It's funny how quickly Charles has turned into the man he thinks he brought down, Dan Rather....
To defeat your enemies you must first become them.
Posted by: Max Power is trying at November 20, 2009 06:54 PM (+wxCD)
Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at November 20, 2009 06:55 PM (sYxEE)
From on has been to another Charles, please, take my advice. Put the chicken down and stop huffing spray paint.
Posted by: Dan Rather at November 20, 2009 06:55 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Rodney at November 20, 2009 06:56 PM (6WxDr)
Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at November 20, 2009 06:55 PM (sYxEE)
No. Not much into seeing some pony tailed fat guy getting fucked by a horse. But thanks anyway.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 06:57 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Mikhail Ivanovich Budyko at November 20, 2009 06:57 PM (RdKK8)
Kind of like "hide the salami".
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 20, 2009 06:19 PM (otlXg)
Also like "bury the burrito"
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at November 20, 2009 06:57 PM (kn+jW)
I see Charles is focused on the illegality of hacking a server and is refusing to acknowledge perhaps the greatest fraud in human history.
Posted by: bulwark at November 20, 2009 06:58 PM (jvrmc)
Posted by: bulwark at November 20, 2009 06:58 PM (jvrmc)
The guy basically became noteworthy exposing obvious fraud and is now refusing to even recognize it. Oh, the irony, it burns.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 07:00 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Mandy No Manners at November 20, 2009 07:00 PM (7FgWm)
Posted by: selrahC at November 20, 2009 07:01 PM (WEh+M)
I credit Buckhead. CJ made a graphic.
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 07:02 PM (MMC8r)
Available at a 2 percent discount on Kindle for Premium L GF members now!
Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at November 20, 2009 07:03 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Sharmu.......ta ta at November 20, 2009 07:03 PM (zDO4e)
Posted by: ray at November 20, 2009 07:04 PM (9+P9E)
You'll get the same high artistic standards that I apply to my photography!
Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at November 20, 2009 07:05 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: selrahC is in the attic at November 20, 2009 07:05 PM (WEh+M)
Posted by: Limo Driver at November 20, 2009 07:06 PM (eA3tl)
This latest episode of craziness from LGF is brought to you courtesy of paint chips.
Lead, its whats for dinner.
Posted by: Big Lead at November 20, 2009 07:07 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Shamuta at November 20, 2009 07:07 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Elsie the Cow at November 20, 2009 07:07 PM (z+twQ)
I'll put in the first bid on Chuck's porn collection
Have you seen the crap pictures he puts up on his blog?I wouldn't bid much for his porn collection if I were you.
Posted by: bulwark at November 20, 2009 07:08 PM (jvrmc)
Kind of like "hide the salami".
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 20, 2009 06:19 PM (otlXg)
Also like "bury the burrito"
Or shade the snorkel.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 20, 2009 07:08 PM (zDO4e)
This latest episode of craziness from LGF is brought to you courtesy of paint chips.
Lead, its whats for dinner.
Posted by: Big Lead at November 20, 2009 07:07 PM
Pufferfish, the other white meat
Posted by: Japanese Fisherman's Guild at November 20, 2009 07:09 PM (sYxEE)
Kind of like "hide the salami".
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 20, 2009 06:19 PM (otlXg)
Also like "bury the burrito"
Or shade the snorkel.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 20, 2009 07:08 PM (zDO4e)
Or 'Insert the penis.'
Oh, wait...
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 07:11 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Sharmuta by any other name at November 20, 2009 07:11 PM (7FgWm)
Posted by: The Sun at November 20, 2009 07:11 PM (z+twQ)
This latest episode of craziness from LGF is brought to you courtesy of paint chips.
Lead, its whats for dinner.
Posted by: Big Lead at November 20, 2009 07:07 PM
Go crazy naturally with MOLD!
Posted by: California Mold Growers Assoc at November 20, 2009 07:11 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at November 20, 2009 07:12 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Big Mercury at November 20, 2009 07:13 PM (z+twQ)
I used to visit CJ's regularly and even registered to post comments. Once I began to challenge the AGW position that CJ and many who visit his sight adhere to, my karma rating became as negative as an artic cold front in the frozen tundra of Alaska. After my reply to a commenter who asked CJ what had happened to the old CJ, I was instantly BANNED from the LGF sight for suggesting to that commenter that they could find a better group of folk at Blackfive, Ace of Spades and Pat Dollard. That comment lasted no more than a few minutes beforre being deleted. CJ has become that which he used to in spirit lament about, a small and narrow-minded fool.
Posted by: Glock and Load! at November 20, 2009 07:15 PM (AcF+u)
Posted by: Laptpbattery in progress at November 20, 2009 07:16 PM (+wxCD)
It appears the hoaxers are using the ACORN defense: "These emails were illegally obtained and we will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. "
Someone probably mentioned this already.
Posted by: Derak at November 20, 2009 07:18 PM (+A5W6)
This latest episode of craziness from LGF is brought to you courtesy of paint chips.
Lead, its whats for dinner.
Posted by: Big Lead at November 20, 2009 07:07 PM
Go crazy naturally with MOLD!
Posted by: California Mold Growers Assoc at November 20, 2009 07:11 PM (sYxEE)
Turn on with ergot, Evolution's own acid trip!
Posted by: Damp Rye Storage Silos of East Milwaukee at November 20, 2009 07:18 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: mistress overdone at November 20, 2009 07:20 PM (9JW6K)
Don't forget old broken rectal thermometers!
Posted by: Big Mercury at November 20, 2009 07:13 PMDon't forget hallucinigenic fungus, man!
Posted by: Magic Mushrooms of Playa del Rey at November 20, 2009 07:21 PM (sYxEE)
"hide the decline" is when you pull the pillow over your junk when you suffer from an acute case of erectile dysfunction.
I read it on Urban Dictionary so it must be true.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2009 07:22 PM (l1Wlr)
1. Knowing this AGW shit is already dead- Axe yosef why King Barry ain't been going to Cope since like forever? Huh?
2. Thus using this shit as required to distract from Harry's "Health" legislation coming this weekend to a Senate near you.
There is no coincidence with these fuckers, only a master plan.
Posted by: dr kill at November 20, 2009 07:23 PM (KXVFz)
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 20, 2009 07:23 PM (zDO4e)
Turn on with ergot, Evolution's own acid trip!
Posted by: Damp Rye Storage Silos of East Milwaukee at November 20, 2009 07:18 PMThis ponytailed douchebag always stops on his bike ride to lick my back. WTF?
Posted by: Kermit at November 20, 2009 07:23 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: dogfish at November 20, 2009 07:24 PM (GQwdV)
Posted by: mistress overdone at November 20, 2009 07:20 PM (9JW6K)
One wonders how he went from being an acolyte of The Amazing Randi, the world's leading exponent of skepticism, to being a card-carrying member of the AGW religion. No one who believes in "settled science" actually believes in true scientific inquiry.
Posted by: stuiec at November 20, 2009 07:24 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 20, 2009 07:25 PM (vwTt0)
Posted by: Berserker at November 20, 2009 07:25 PM (gWHrG)
Posted by: Big Glue at November 20, 2009 07:25 PM (sYxEE)
Kind of like "hide the salami".
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 20, 2009 06:19 PM (otlXg)
Also like "bury the burrito"
Or shade the snorkel.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 20, 2009 07:08 PM (zDO4e)
Or 'Insert the penis.'
Or "put the Devil into Hell"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2009 07:25 PM (l1Wlr)
I owed Charles a reach
Posted by: Shep Smith-Cooper at November 20, 2009 07:26 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: C. Johnson at November 20, 2009 07:29 PM (GQwdV)
Mmm. Hamburg.
Posted by: homer simpson at November 20, 2009 07:30 PM (2qU2d)
Posted by: homer simpson at November 20, 2009 07:32 PM (2qU2d)
What? The salami's hidden?! Doh!
Posted by: homer simpson at November 20, 2009 07:33 PM (2qU2d)
whom eventually took to tipping at elephants
and lost whatever relevance he had.
- tribute to Henry Gibson
Posted by: Rob in Katy at November 20, 2009 07:37 PM (PiTBB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 20, 2009 07:37 PM (ucxC/)
Posted by: Mystery Vampire at November 20, 2009 07:38 PM (kmgIE)
I'm just glad that they are starting to realize that the Sun has an effect on Earth's temperature.
"There can be no argument about that," he says. "We have to face that fact."
Is it just me, or are they regretful?
Posted by: FUBAR at November 20, 2009 07:39 PM (eRJUD)
Ace,
I send you tip money, don't you listen
Leave this asshole alone. I don't remember the last time I visited LGF, but it must have been a long time ago, since I am not banned.
Just give this fucker up. NO MORE LGF shit on AoSHQ!
OK. It's like a twelve step program, only you drink.
Er, that clear enough?
We don't read his shit, we don't care wtf he does, so YOU stop reading his shit!
Wasting your blog space on this is really STUPID!
Have a nice day!
Posted by: Kemp at November 20, 2009 07:41 PM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: torabora at November 20, 2009 07:44 PM (e0vvR)
Hey Kemp, you forgot to add imho or that you were speaking for yourself. Imho, most of us here love the occasional gratuitous Chucky bashing thread.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 07:45 PM (+FzLa)
Fuck you, Charles? I don't know. I still have an accout there too. I could probably do it with just one word by post my LGF nic on this site.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 20, 2009 07:45 PM (zDO4e)
You can't stop the signal.
Posted by: Mr. Universe uses bittorrent at November 20, 2009 07:46 PM (PD1tk)
Posted by: Sharmuta by any other name at November 20, 2009 07:47 PM (7FgWm)
Posted by: EyeTest at November 20, 2009 07:48 PM (ip+1t)
Posted by: metro at November 20, 2009 07:48 PM (PE8MM)
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 20, 2009 07:50 PM (KWhJd)
Why? Why Lord do they not recognize the altruistic greatness and superior intellect of the god that is Mr. Johnson. Why?
Posted by: Wild Irish Elephant at November 20, 2009 07:50 PM (+FzLa)
What does "hide the decline" mean, I wonder?
Well, the author of this little gem is British, so it could mean many things.
Many of which are hilarious to read about, but dreadful to experience personally.
@
As for Charles Johnson; it looks like hefs descending into a vat of spittle-washed Truth/The Correct Way sermons (although embarrassingly simple and short), downdings, authoritarian bannings, serial retractions / corrections / "never-heard-of-it"s and general and long-lasting embarrassment.
Regrettable. Musicians (i.e., people who have learned to play a musical instrument well, and well enough to be paid by other accomplished musicians for public performance; NOT singers, DJs, mixmasters, and other posers) tend to be above-average-smart to titanically-brilliant (Bach, Beethoven, Mozart).
Note that this isnft the same as, and not a substitute for, education / training. Without suitable education / training in the area of interest (in this case politics, and related areas, maybe law, history), itfs easy to be fooled by others, particularly fawning sycophants.
I wonder if Dan Rather is watching.
Posted by: Arbalest at November 20, 2009 07:54 PM (Ym9lj)
It appears the hoaxers are using the ACORN defense: "These emails were illegally obtained and we will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. "
Someone probably mentioned this already
Yeah, I remember when that son of a Dem politician got into Sarah Palin's Yahoo account - the media was so scrupulous about legalities there.
Posted by: 141 Driver at November 20, 2009 07:55 PM (JFNQ7)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at November 20, 2009 07:59 PM (vKdhq)
Posted by: Kyra Phillips, Playground Anthro Apologist at November 20, 2009 08:01 PM (3nPNg)
I could understand that places thousands of miles from the caps--that were just at the freezing point--are now melting.
Well, maybe I'm naive. Or maybe I just need pony tail man to explain it all.
Also, in the interest of full disclosure, I do not believe that matter came into being on its own, or that matter has always existed. I guess that makes me ponytailiciously evil!!!
Posted by: Dan Storm at November 20, 2009 08:02 PM (W5Dbv)
Just post a link to the AoSHQ homepage. No comments, just the link.
It worked for me.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2009 08:07 PM (l1Wlr)
Oh, these guys are absolute fucking *pinnacles* of scientific integrity! It'll be interesting to see if a single word of this makes the MSM.
Bastards, the whole lot of 'em. Including the MSM.
Posted by: sf at November 20, 2009 08:08 PM (xz5dP)
Posted by: Kyra Phillips, Playground Anthro Apologist at November 20, 2009 08:01 PM
Whats the over/under on that kid growing up to become a full blown flaming drag queen and attending one of those San Fran street fairs by the way?
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 08:10 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: mystry at November 20, 2009 08:14 PM (kmgIE)
"I just don't get it. The woman ran for VP and has written a book about it. She has done nothing to merit the scorn of the left and especially the MSM. The AP devoted 11 reporters to fact check her book. She is the governor of a state, not some tyrant who wants to dominate the world. What is her great crime that deserves this much attention. She's a polititician; nothing more, nothing less. GET OVER IT!"
Posted by: Charles Johnson's Lost Comments at November 20, 2009 08:16 PM (29kbu)
oh oh
crazy chuck just called out ace in the latest post
guess it's time to get banned from over there
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:16 PM (6i/6z)
Oh snap ! Chucky just said ace is beclowning himself. He's calling ace a clown.
Ace you need to lower the boom on his ass once and for all and deliver the killshot on this motherfucker right the fuck now.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 08:20 PM (+FzLa)
. . . I deleted the comment because it linked to downloads of illegally obtained email data. I understand that Ace has no problem with that, but I dont want LGF to be used to circulate files that were acquired by breaking into a private email server. Thats the reason it was deleted.
I condemned the hacking of Sarah Palins Yahoo email account, and would never have posted links to those emails either. Unlike Ace, Im simply being consistent.
Posted by: Tinian at November 20, 2009 08:20 PM (7+pP9)
i hope ace invites the lgf'ers to the moronapallozza
i seriously want to slap the shit out of sharmuta and hoosier hoops
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:22 PM (6i/6z)
Posted by: HGG at November 20, 2009 08:22 PM (HShKJ)
dude!!!!! they are trashing the flaming skull in the comments!!!!
is it time to unleash the moron horde?
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:24 PM (6i/6z)
...probably...
Posted by: bosforus at November 20, 2009 08:25 PM (oukTr)
You ever think about maybe, I don't know, looking for the explanation as to why my comment was deleted. Could it have something to do with the fact that I asked him to delete it because i have to grovel at my master's feet like a little bitch?
...probably...
fify
begone assclown
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:26 PM (6i/6z)
CJ is basically like Andi - a liberal goofball who went temporarily hawkish after 9/11.
All roads lead to mental breakdown when you're a leftist.
Posted by: Warden at November 20, 2009 08:29 PM (QoR4a)
Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich warned in 1969 that American life expectancy could be reduced to only 42 years by the 1980s because of an epidemic of cancer caused by modern chemicals and pesticides.
In the 1970s, Massachusetts Institute of Technology professors published the book "Limits to Growth" warning that if policymakers didn't limit growth, the world would run out of resources and suffer economic collapse. They even developed an elaborate computer model to prove their point.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 08:29 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 20, 2009 08:31 PM (554T5)
Listen, Hater. I was told by the humanities program from which I graduated that there'd be no math. But I'll go out on a limb because I'm a uniter, and say, "The Merchant of Venice" plus/minus Brazilian shaman spell number nine. Squared.
Posted by: Kyra Phillips, Playground Anthro Apologist at November 20, 2009 08:31 PM (3nPNg)
If Mr Johnson says that's the reason, you can believe him. And you'd better!
Posted by: Wild Irish Hose at November 20, 2009 08:31 PM (L2uLy)
i seriously want to slap the shit out of sharmuta and hoosier hoops
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:22 PM (6i/6z)
Your a kinder and gentler man than me. I want to stick Sharm in the squeekhole with my meat missile without the benefit of lube, while Kilgore is in the corner tied up and gagged knowing he's next.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 08:32 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: bosforus at November 20, 2009 08:33 PM (oukTr)
149
dude!!!!! they are trashing the flaming skull in the comments!!!!
is it time to unleash the moron horde?
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:24 PM (6i/6z)
Only if they can get enough comments.
Perhaps 500 "real" comments, by 80 different commenters?
No "Letters to Car & Driver" tactics, either.
Posted by: Arbalest at November 20, 2009 08:33 PM (Ym9lj)
Therein lies the problem, and is why this lie is so damned hard to expose. AGW is nothing more than a massive, money-grubbing power play on a global scale.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 20, 2009 08:35 PM (554T5)
I'll leave you to lick Froggers nuts now.
Posted by: flenser at November 20, 2009 08:36 PM (L2uLy)
Man, this place gets pissy when you're proven wrong to be idiots. Butthurt much? I'll leave you to lick your wounds now.
Posted by: bosforus at November 20, 2009 08:33 PM (oukTr)
Hey bosforus, I'm sure your Ponytailed Plato would appreciate the rim-job much more in person.
Jus' sayin'
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 08:37 PM (+FzLa)
158 hmmmm, who posted this AFTER the post about ace went up
Absentmindedly, I posted the links to the ftp sites in the Overnight Fauna thread in this comment. Though they are not direct links to the zip files would you kindly delete that comment and this current comment if you feel it necessary
bad time to cover for him kiss-ass
oh, finishing with
Por favor do not block my account. I'd appreciate it.
makes you look like a little bitch, please turn in your man card and put on your skirt
we bid you adieu
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:39 PM (6i/6z)
I remember you at LGF as in insignificant contributor that even the biggest loser lizards ignored. Feh.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 20, 2009 08:39 PM (554T5)
I guess this ain't the time to alert you to the fact that belief in man made climate change has been awarded the status of a religion in England. (Oh dear, how to still be an atheist and a global warming believer.....oh me oh my....)
BTW, if you knew a damn thing about science, you would know that no real scientist EVER says that the debate is "settled". No matter how the evidence stacks up at this particular time, there is always the possibility that new discoveries can....and will....upset the current paradigm. (See Einstein ~ Physics, Darwin ~ Biology, etc.)
Please stick to your "art photography" until you get this basic concept, ok? Have a nice day....somewhere else.
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 20, 2009 08:40 PM (KWhJd)
We have about five more years at the outside to do something, ecologist Kenneth Watt declared to a Swarthmore College audience on April 19, 1970.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 08:42 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: PFC Chickenhawk at November 20, 2009 08:43 PM (5UAdo)
Posted by: toby928 at November 20, 2009 08:43 PM (PD1tk)
I remember you at LGF as in insignificant contributor that even the biggest loser lizards ignored. Feh.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 20, 2009 08:39 PM (554T5)
If that tool has been there that long , then I'm sure he belongs to the Twisting Myself Into A Pretzel To Please My Pony-Tailed Master Club right along with Sharmuta and the racist Kilgore Trout.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 08:44 PM (+FzLa)
167 jesus, who invited the lizard losers?
here's a question chickentool..... if i posted a comment like yours over at lgf, do you think it would be deleted and gone along with my account?
see the difference?
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:45 PM (6i/6z)
I do believe Johnson has just synergized with Sullivan. Hair trigger watch + deleted comment + outrage = broken ironymeter that now only goes to 11.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 08:46 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: Mystery Vampire at November 20, 2009 08:46 PM (kmgIE)
172 now he's over there bragging
I think I made some friends over at Ace.
guess he wants to be one of the cool kids
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:48 PM (6i/6z)
Why in the name of sanity would we do that? One could go blind over there. Go back and suck farts out of bicycle seats, douchebag.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 20, 2009 08:49 PM (554T5)
BTW, anyone else thinks it's funny that this thread has about, oh, six times the comments as Chuckie's? I remember when Little Green Pusballs had 400 comments in 5 minutes....good times, good times.....
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 20, 2009 08:51 PM (KWhJd)
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:52 PM (6i/6z)
Posted by: soozer at November 20, 2009 08:53 PM (OnRdm)
175 i was waiting for him too
mandymanners showed up, i hope she's dumb enough to come here and play
we'd have to turn her over to blazer
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:54 PM (6i/6z)
guess he wants to be one of the cool kids
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:48 PM (6i/6z)
You know when little kids get that choclatey Oreo grin? Picture that with the lizards, only replace it with feces speckled scraps of toilet paper caught between the teeth from eating Chuckies ass.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 08:55 PM (+FzLa)
Okay, Killgore, I came already. You can come up for air.
Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 20, 2009 08:55 PM (29kbu)
Posted by: BLue Balls The Pirate at November 20, 2009 08:57 PM (L+u9U)
ACE of SPADES
Posted by: madamex at November 20, 2009 08:57 PM (gVX0w)
It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.
Denis Hayes, chief organizer for 1970 Earth Day
Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim
timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will
spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near
East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and
Central America will exist under famine conditions
.By the year 2000,
thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western
Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.
Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University
Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence
to support
the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will
have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution
by 1985 air pollution
will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half
.
Life Magazine, January 1970
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 08:58 PM (DIYmd)
175 i was waiting for him too
mandymanners showed up, i hope she's dumb enough to come here and play
we'd have to turn her over to blazer
Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 08:54 PM (6i/6z)
She wouldn't even be able to utter one fuck you before I blocked her cock-pocket with a pulsating member.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 08:59 PM (+FzLa)
It must be great to feel so intellectually superior over at the lizard swamp.
I'm enyoying this very much and may have a woodie. Let me check.
Yes, yes I do.
Posted by: Ronster at November 20, 2009 08:59 PM (Z1Tmd)
It was "time to be banned" over there when he blamed the Von Brunn shooter on Conservatives. I'm not a Conservative myself but I mean, really.
Posted by: Zimriel at November 20, 2009 08:59 PM (94eYr)
Of course he would. He's an idiot.
And he will remain an AGW zealot despite the evidence from his hierarchy that they were faking the shit.
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 09:00 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: madamex at November 20, 2009 09:01 PM (gVX0w)
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 08:59 PM (+FzLa)
I'd just like to add, that I would skull-fuck that bitch like Sandy Duncan's husband on crack if she dared show up here.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 09:01 PM (+FzLa)
I mean....Killsnore Trout might have been there. Triple wrap it first. And take some antibiotics, just in case.
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 20, 2009 09:01 PM (KWhJd)
Has Chuckie ever posted any retractions concerning anything he has ever written? Do we really want to rehash, among other things, some of his more fallacious claims about the European Right, for example? And does anyone doubt that the Chuckster is in the habit of banning those who disagree with him politically?
At AoSHQ, you ass-sniffers can make asses out of yourselves if you wish. On LGF, that is all you can do..
Posted by: Mike Z. at November 20, 2009 09:02 PM (BBlLR)
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Posted by: toby928 at November 20, 2009 09:05 PM (PD1tk)
Posted by: BLue Balls The Pirate at November 20, 2009 09:06 PM (L+u9U)
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Posted by: navycopjoe at November 20, 2009 09:06 PM (6i/6z)
Posted by: VJay at November 20, 2009 09:08 PM (k87Wm)
I'd add Paul Ehrlich's famous bet with Julian Sanders about five different metals skyrocketing in price. That putz should have stayed out of the prediction biz.
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 20, 2009 09:10 PM (KWhJd)
Check out AMC's "The Prisoner" It's really good. Watch it and keep LGF in the back of your mind. Charles really is "#2".
That should be his moniker henceforth.
Posted by: BLue Balls The Pirate at November 20, 2009 09:10 PM (L+u9U)
Posted by: Dr Carlo Lombardi at November 20, 2009 09:13 PM (2JBGY)
And in other news, Chuckles hasn't retracted his MSM-spoonfed slander of Limbaugh with made-up racist quotes because of, uh, legal issues, or something.
He's a real "dot the i's and cross the t's" guy, that one.
Posted by: VJay at November 20, 2009 09:13 PM (k87Wm)
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 09:13 PM (+FzLa)
Email Charles quotes: Ive just completed Mikes Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keiths to hide the decline.
Charles replies: Trick, of course, can also mean an effective technique, but if you were desperately hunting for anything smear-worthy, I suppose the word would stand out.
Yes, Charles, "an effective technique" to "hide the decline." Nothing wrong with that...
Here is another one Charles can creatively reinterpret:
The other paper by MM is just garbage as you knew. De Freitas again. Pielke is also losing all credibility as well by replying to the mad Finn as well frequently as I see it. I cant see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. K and I will keep them out somehow even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is ! [Emphasis mine.]
Of course, the morons at Real Climate attempt to argue that this release proves there is no conspiracy to misrepresent and modify the data because the emails show just how dedicated the climate scientists in question believe in their theory. (Many of whom are, of course, involved with Real Climate.) Got that? Science depends not on data, but on the extent to which you adhere to a theory. In other words, it depends on faith. Perhaps Charle should reconsider creationism if he buys that argument.
Posted by: Mike Z. at November 20, 2009 09:18 PM (BBlLR)
...probably...
Was that before or after you apologized profusely for not being one with the body and licking the shit off Chuckles ass like a good little LGF bitch?
Posted by: koopy at November 20, 2009 09:20 PM (XllG0)
It's always entertaining watching those freaks stab each other in the back in a desperate bid for Chuckles approval.
Posted by: koopy at November 20, 2009 09:22 PM (XllG0)
#2: "Who Downdinged 11-33? (11-33='s MandyManners)
{silence}
#2: I'll ask once more...who downdinged 11-33?
[#2 reaches into his pocket and slowly removes a live grenade]
#2: I will ask just one more time and then I'll...
#4 (Sharmuta): It was 409! (409 is some new anonymous lizard registrant who is like the unknown crew members that always join the regular star trek cast on a mission)
#2: Is this true, 409? Did you downding Mandy Mann...ahhh, I mean, did you downding 11-32?
#409: I did, almighty #2. I just wanted to point out that her logic was flawed.
#2: You do know that 11-32 has our grace, do you not?
#409: Well, I'm new, and I...
#4 (Sharmuta): SILENCE, NOOB!
#409: But...
#4: Master, I think he deserves a flouncing.
#409: ...wah...for what?
#2/#4 (They're both the same, but forgot to distinguish between sockpuppets): FOR SAYING WHAT YOU THOUGHT!
Posted by: BLue Balls The Pirate at November 20, 2009 09:26 PM (L+u9U)
I agree. Spammers really frost my flakes
Posted by: Lace Wigs at November 20, 2009 09:31 PM (2JBGY)
i went to lgf to check it out. i used to love his "top rated links" for the same reason i used to love drudge and still go to hotair, but i was looking at his links and they are all from the NYT, sfexaminer and all other sites i wouldn't vitsit or never heard of.
Also, i truly am being objective here, for someone who puts so much work into his site, it really isn't all that great. There are too many hyperlink and things that no one who goes there will ever use.
Posted by: Ben at November 20, 2009 09:36 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: eman at November 20, 2009 09:50 PM (5kUSm)
Posted by: bushleague at November 20, 2009 09:52 PM (96Ky8)
Put up a comment quoting some of CJ's previous anti-AGW stance. That'll do the trick.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 20, 2009 09:55 PM (AwGqy)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 09:57 PM (MMC8r)
How does CJ reconcile the emails trying to subvert the FOIAs?
A tad bit deep for a shallow mind there.
Posted by: Druid at November 20, 2009 09:59 PM (Gct7d)
Posted by: Charles Johnson's bicycle seat at November 20, 2009 10:04 PM (PU/sc)
...If anything, I would like to see the climate change happen, so the science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences. This isnt being political, it is being selfish.
Cheers, Phil
This Nobel is for you, Mr. Selfish Non-Political Climate Science Man!
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 10:05 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: Def Leppard at November 20, 2009 10:06 PM (hIOnV)
REAL MAN OF GENIUS.
Mr. I have sex with Goats Charles Johnson, you are a real man of Genius.
When you rooty tootie fruity blog gets down in the dumps, you sign up quickl y for some Soros cash and a few sessions of anal sex with some San Francisco pretty boys and destroy your own once proud and successful blog.
This BUDS for you Mr. Real Man of Genius Charles the Goat Lover Johnson.
After helping bring Dan Rather to his knees, you have Dan fellate you!
This BUDS for you Charlie Johson. Real man of Genius.
Posted by: gus at November 20, 2009 10:14 PM (MaqIC)
Posted by: Paula C at November 20, 2009 10:15 PM (gARSe)
Posted by: arhooley at November 20, 2009 10:26 PM (GKXA7)
Posted by: Tinian at November 20, 2009 10:28 PM (7+pP9)
Stupid Leftist Tricks: Left Pushing a Video Supposedly Showing an "Angry Crowd" Disapponted that Palin Won't Sign Their Books
As Just a Grunt (at JWF) explains, one of the women quoted (of course!) by AP seems to be an Obama fan. In the supposedly angry crowd, you hear only one woman droning on "Sign our books" with the exact cadence of "O-ba-ma," and one heckling male.
Based on two likely lefty disruptors, the left wants to call everyone else in the crowd "angry." In fact, they all look just like looky-loos, crowding in to photograph a celebrity. But the media is putting out the word: Don't buy her book, or you'll be very angry at how she treats you. I can't tell, by the way, but it sure sounds like Sarah Palin comes out to address the looky-loos here, and, conveniently enough, the "angry crowd" video ends just after that. Just a Grunt is refusing to link the video, as lefties are trying to make it viral, and I'll respect that advice. But if you're curious -- as he says, it's on every single lefty site. Corrected: Poster "Just a Grunt" wrote that post, not JWF.Comments
Posted by: pat at November 20, 2009 05:52 PM (h4Zo6)
Hey, remember when Barack Obama was the President of the United States, the Democrats had overwhelming control of both houses of Congress, the deficit was out of control, shysters were trying to destroy the health care system, unemployment was 17.5% and the war in Afghanistan was being lost?
Yeah, neither do the lefties. Holy crap, how she must scare them.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 05:54 PM (B+qrE)
LGF also announced that covering up climate data isn't a big deal. Totally out of this world these days.
Posted by: lorien1973 at November 20, 2009 05:55 PM (IhQuA)
Palin has a negative appeal in addition to her affirmative appeal that is hardly ever mentioned. Like someone said a long while ago, she pisses off all the right people.
It makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
Posted by: The Boobie Watcher (rdb) at November 20, 2009 05:56 PM (p5QqI)
Listen up, folks: Those of us who want to buy the book will buy it. Some of us may buy it just to piss off the lefties. Pick your battles.
Posted by: fluffy at November 20, 2009 05:56 PM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at November 20, 2009 05:57 PM (qvtkZ)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 05:57 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: JWF at November 20, 2009 05:58 PM (29kbu)
The response on this book tour has been overwhelming. We are truly humbled, and I thank you.
I've been told that yesterday there were supporters in Noblesville who stood in long lines for hours in the cold and rain, and the book signing event ended without a chance to say hello to everyone who showed up. I am so sorry. We are working on a solution for those who were left behind.
I apologize.
- Sarah Palin
Posted by: enoxo at November 20, 2009 05:58 PM (+J6OV)
That fact that Sarah Palin refused to sign everyone's books and that she started a near riot!
Well, after that I could never ever vote for her.
I'll just shut off my TV when she comes on and I urge all true conservatives to do the same.
Posted by: Concerned Palin Supporter at November 20, 2009 05:59 PM (HylJ6)
Are you really such a warped wingnut that any time you hear a chat with a three-beat cadence you assume that person is an Obama fan? Or is that just whenever it suits your justifications ("this video MUST be a hoax -- I'll find the down-low Obama supporters in it!"). Pathetic
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:00 PM (FRErk)
Posted by: Barry O-bow-ma at November 20, 2009 06:01 PM (6268o)
Posted by: rawmuse at November 20, 2009 06:01 PM (7dSSk)
She signed books as she moved through the crowd to the bus. And listening to the video, there were only around 3 people shouting / booing. I attribute those to liberals who were just going to sell the book on ebay (which has over 100 copies up now). No 'Cuda fan would be shouting, calling her a quitter--those were flat out liberals.
Posted by: enoxo at November 20, 2009 06:02 PM (+J6OV)
Posted by: weewilly at November 20, 2009 06:03 PM (iBHcm)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 06:03 PM (RZ8pf)
Pathetic
You know what's pathetic "Sally Ann"? This ridiculous obsession you idiot leftards have with someone who doesn't even hold elective office. GO TO THE LINK and read about one of the "protestors" twitter links.
On the other hand, I'm more than happy to discuss that bullet we dodged last November since Mr. Happy Changey is doing such a bang up job. You've already made clear that you want Palin hate from Column A. How about an Iranian nuclear test from Column B or perhaps 20% unemployment to finish up your dinner special? Only 14 trillion dollars. You got penny?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 06:04 PM (B+qrE)
As a strong conservative, Christian Republican and Palin supporter I agree that there is absolutely no way that Obama supporters would show up to disrupt a Palin event!
All true conservatives, should try to think of at least one thing that our President is doing right! I bet Palin isn't doing that!
Posted by: Concerned Palin Supporter at November 20, 2009 06:05 PM (HylJ6)
Posted by: Alex at November 20, 2009 06:05 PM (sAP8F)
Posted by: B. Clinton at November 20, 2009 06:05 PM (iaMr2)
Posted by: Ben B. at November 20, 2009 06:06 PM (wXmCd)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 06:07 PM (MMC8r)
Made my bi-monthly stop by the dark side of the basement and the "you know who" guy has the video up.
He's such a shameless whore for the left. I'm thinking if he personally "did" the whole football team he'd do away with the under the grandstands or behind the stadium and go full monty centerfield with the 'pounders'. Think his skirt is pleated, or one of those new skort thingies that need completely yanked down around the ankles and not up over his used rump?
Posted by: drillanwr at November 20, 2009 06:07 PM (1kwr2)
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 20, 2009 06:08 PM (KWhJd)
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:08 PM (FRErk)
"A man's greatness can be measured by his enemies." Don Piatt.
Guess that also goes for you ladies .
Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 20, 2009 06:09 PM (RQ+qN)
Posted by: Somebody not named Frum at November 20, 2009 06:09 PM (MMC8r)
As a concerned Christian conservative Republican, I now believe that Sarah Palin is dangerous!
Can the America we know and love survive her book tour?
Posted by: Concerned Palin Supporter at November 20, 2009 06:09 PM (HylJ6)
She's not signing autographs because she was forbidden to, by the brass at Fort Bragg.
tinyurl.com/yjkbtaz
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 06:09 PM (+FzLa)
When did you stop beating your children? Your tranny lover? Your pets?
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 20, 2009 06:11 PM (otlXg)
Good luck on clearing out the sand-gina, Sally.
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 06:12 PM (MMC8r)
Sally Ann Cavanaugh
Charles "Pound My Ass" Johnson
Same amount of syllables.
Coincidence? I think not!
Posted by: Spud at November 20, 2009 06:13 PM (iaMr2)
Dennis Miller said it on O'Reilly. He's probably not the only one.
Any guesses which of the "trolls" is Mr. Pink?
Posted by: Methos at November 20, 2009 06:13 PM (CoDwG)
As a concerned Christian conservative Republican and strong Sarah Palin supporter, I know she would destroy the Republican Party!
The fact that she has millions of supporters who will donate time and money to her just proves what a weak candidate she is!
Posted by: Concerned Palin Supporter at November 20, 2009 06:14 PM (HylJ6)
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:15 PM (VLYnh)
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:15 PM (FRErk)
McCain? Yeah. There's a winner.
Or maybe DeeDee Scuzzo-fava will be our centrist candidate!
Shit, Mussolini will look like a centrist after four years of Obama.
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 06:16 PM (MMC8r)
I too, as a concerned Christian conservative, am beginning to see the light. It took Sally Ann Cavanaugh's insightful posts here to make me realize that this Palin woman is pulling one over on all of us.
Thank goodness I've seen the error of my ways before I did something drastic like rushed out and voted for her.
Wait, you mean she isn't running for office right now? So what the heck is she doing running around in that bus and talking to folks about what she'll do when she becomes President?
Wait, you mean she isn't doing that either? She's just on a book tour? To promote a book?
Hmmm.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 06:17 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: drillanwr at November 20, 2009 06:18 PM (1kwr2)
"It would guarantee an Obama re-election"
At this point the only guarantee worth it's salt is that he will go down in history as the worst one term president EVAH.
I guarantee it.
Posted by: Bosk at November 20, 2009 06:19 PM (pUO5u)
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:19 PM (FRErk)
Yes, I must agree with the others here who have voiced their concern.
Sarah Palin's distinct lack of concern for the feelings of those concerned about their health-care has this staunch conservative who loves apple pie and race cars and Toby Urban records very concerned.
I'm afraid I may have to support Bernie Sanders for president if my republican party (which I love more than dear jesus himself) doesn't come to its senses and get behind a less divisive and more reasonable candidate who supports a woman's right to choose and a Frenchman's right to U.S. taxpayer-funded healthcare.
Posted by: Concerned in Berkley at November 20, 2009 06:19 PM (iaMr2)
I must agree with SAC (heh)!
If I were totally confident of winning like she is, I would definitely spent my time going to opposition websites trying to get my adversaries to dump their weak, loser candidate!
It's the only thing that makes sense to me, as a conserned, conservative Christian Repunblican and strong Sarah Palin supporter!
Posted by: Concerned Palin Supporter at November 20, 2009 06:19 PM (HylJ6)
you're all about the qualifications. But he sure can pass for 'intellectual,' can't he?
Admit it-- you're just wowed that one of 'those people' can dress up and talk purty, aren't you?
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 06:21 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:22 PM (FRErk)
The IP hash, it is wise. One letter off though.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2009 06:22 PM (p05LM)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 06:22 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold at November 20, 2009 06:24 PM (jdXw+)
We need more Ivy League leadership, blessing us all with rich baritones on the legacy media! After all, they've done such a bang up job for the past, oh, coming up on thirty years in the Oval Office (all of 'em from Bush Sr to the current genius). And the Masters of the Universe on Wall Street are all Ivy Leaguers, too.
Thank Gaia we haven't had any cow college grat-u-ates in charge. Just imagine how effed we'd all be if that were the case! Nope, we need even more empty suits with impressive resumes, staying up nights studying Austrian! (Austria...it's over by Indonesia, right? I mean, I'm a grat-u-ate of a state school, I ain't up to date on all them furriners. Help me, John Kerry!)
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 20, 2009 06:24 PM (KWhJd)
Posted by: Bosk at November 20, 2009 06:24 PM (pUO5u)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 06:25 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: cal thomas at November 20, 2009 06:26 PM (Vc/xe)
Posted by: Bosk at November 20, 2009 06:27 PM (pUO5u)
Something tells me that you were trolling "extremist" message boards in 2004, proclaiming that Bush was going to be a one-term President.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 20, 2009 06:27 PM (otlXg)
As a concerned, conservative Christian Republican, I must say that is totally false, Clinton was re-elected because he was TEH ROXXER!.
Posted by: Concerned Palin Supporter at November 20, 2009 06:27 PM (HylJ6)
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 20, 2009 06:28 PM (KWhJd)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 06:29 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:29 PM (FRErk)
Posted by: Spud at November 20, 2009 06:30 PM (iaMr2)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 06:31 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Sally's Mom at November 20, 2009 06:31 PM (pUO5u)
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:22 PM (FRErk)
Hey Sally Strothers, you're forgetting something toots, Clinton was such a great president, or at least the media made him out to be, because the adults in the GOP dominated Congress at the time much to his chagrin forced him to be responsible.
Barry doesn't have that luxury.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 06:31 PM (+FzLa)
Truman was a Democrat, honey. Go wiki it.
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 06:32 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: awkward davies at November 20, 2009 06:36 PM (wb68R)
Posted by: nickless
HEH! Of The Day!
Shit! I give it a triple dog HEH!
Posted by: drillanwr at November 20, 2009 06:37 PM (1kwr2)
Posted by: ushie at November 20, 2009 06:39 PM (1kwr2)
If you want to get Mrs. Palin's signature, get up at Oh-Dark-Thirty and stand in line. Here's the deal, in Communist countries (and a 2nd Obama term), people stand in line for toilet paper. We're standing in line for Mrs. Palin's signature so we won't have to stand in line for non-discretionary commodities.
Posted by: Steve Poling at November 20, 2009 06:39 PM (nBrFn)
Over at C4P they've got a good article up of the 17 year old gal that was "interviewed" by Nora O'Donnel.
The left wing media and their cohorts where caught off balance by the shear magnitude of Palin's appeal. I think in the coming weeks you'll see a lot more "staged" events by the MSM and the democrates operatives.
Posted by: Bosk at November 20, 2009 06:41 PM (pUO5u)
Sally, the blue pill! You have to take the BLUE pill!
Posted by: Dr Frasier Crane at November 20, 2009 06:41 PM (sYxEE)
Don't listen to these people Sally Ann.
They're just like me: Concerned, beaten, defeated, half-crazed christian conservative Republicans who just can't admit to themselves that we need to move to the center if we have any hope of winning any election ever again.
I've tried to tell them that 2008's election was a clear message from the voters that fundamentalist right-wing extremists like John McCain will not be tolerated.
Where are the real Republicans today? The thoughtful, anti-war, pro government spending conservatives committed to social justice and a Woman's Right to Choose?
Posted by: Red White and Blue 9/11 at November 20, 2009 06:42 PM (iaMr2)
It's really tough, maybe Sally is correct, could anyone apologise for American as Obama has? or bow as deeply, really we need to think hard on this, there is no one as insightfully apologetic as Obama for the crime of being raised in America. None hat can wipe away the sins of our collective mistakes as Obama.
I truly luuuuuv that Chavez adores us as does Castro, that Hondurans and citizens of Iran feel the luuv. Georgians ukrainians all feel Hope for Change , bcause Change is lovely afterall
don't be downers, embrace the hope for us all.
oh yeah Palins is an uneducated hick at shoots animals and is a awfully distastful breeder, that is waaaaay to sexy to have a mind. so let her go. just let her go.
Posted by: willow at November 20, 2009 06:43 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: UGAdawg at November 20, 2009 06:44 PM (O4miG)
Posted by: Obama's cock at November 20, 2009 06:47 PM (LLOGQ)
Posted by: willow at November 20, 2009 06:48 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2009 06:48 PM (sYxEE)
No, her hash (FRErk) is not the hash of any known moron who might be having a bit of fun with us. No, Sally Ann appears to be a new troll that has shown up here within the last couple of weeks or so.
Posted by: OregonMuse at November 20, 2009 06:49 PM (hoowK)
We've a massively incompetent administration and are putting our kids and their kids and their kids kids, etc., into enormous debt, soldiers are dying in Afghanistan and Obama dawdles, there are going to be trials of KSM and other really not very nice guys in NYC, a government takeover of some 6 percent of our economy is in the works, and you're ranting about words on a blog and what may or may not be a video of an Obama supporter chanting AT-TI-CA or whateverthefrig?
Go away.
Posted by: TheresaD at November 20, 2009 06:49 PM (iGCmo)
Sally is erg, being his usual cowardly self.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 06:50 PM (n2wxa)
Great stuff, morons. I second Spud. SAC, never leave us.
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 20, 2009 06:51 PM (rplL3)
After the season the Mets had, that demographic would make sense.
biographical note: Mets fan since 1968
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 20, 2009 06:51 PM (1O93r)
Why shouldn't we? Willful doesn't mind.
ba-dum-bump
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 20, 2009 06:53 PM (1O93r)
Posted by: OregonMuse at November 20, 2009 06:53 PM (hoowK)
No, her hash (FRErk) is not the hash of any known moron who might be having a bit of fun with us. No, Sally Ann appears to be a new troll that has shown up here within the last couple of weeks or so.
It's erg behind a new anonymizer. The coward realized we were on to the previous one, and that he was pushing against Ace's ultimatum.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 06:54 PM (n2wxa)
Bite me.
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 20, 2009 06:55 PM (1O93r)
I don't think so. SAC's style is markedly different.
No, it's not. It's the same crap -- you're all stupid, I'm so smart, you're all anti-intellectuals, blah blah blah.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 06:56 PM (n2wxa)
So the right-wing extremist hate the Democratic president. What a shock! This is the same kind of bile you vomited out about Clinton. He was also guaranteed to be the worst one-term president EVAH. How did that work out for you? Focus on 2016. That might be doable for you.
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh
tee hee.
u are so right, that bushhitler, halliburtoncheney, murderous war monger thing , every soldier kills babies chat was enchanting for 8 years and counting .
didn't happen at all
Posted by: willow at November 20, 2009 06:58 PM (GkYyh)
We need a troll named Jenny for that description.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2009 06:58 PM (l1Wlr)
Do precisely two angry hooters convert the other 300 picture-takers into an "angry mob"?
If 300 people are at a bar and one yells "I love rape" are the rest rapists?
Are you a fucking moron?
Politico saw no "angry crowd," by the way. They were there and didn't see this "angry crowd."
That's because two idiots hooting near their own cellphone's microphone do not an "angry crowd" make.
And yes, the O-ba-ma thing is a stretch, but not so much given that one of the supposed Palinistas quoted byu the AP turns out to be a fan of Barack Obama.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2009 06:58 PM (jlvw3)
No, it's not. It's the same crap -- you're all stupid, I'm so smart, you're all anti-intellectuals, blah blah blah.
But I am an anti-intellectual. The same way George Orwell was. Not the one who posts here.
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 20, 2009 06:58 PM (1O93r)
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavernous at November 20, 2009 07:01 PM (6268o)
Keep in mind, Sally, that Obama has brains in the same way that the scarecrow did at the end of the Wizard of Oz.
Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2009 07:03 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: newrouter at November 20, 2009 07:05 PM (bEZJ+)
+1-20 [roll 20 sided die]
Posted by: fluffy at November 20, 2009 07:07 PM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: Todd at November 20, 2009 07:08 PM (LLOGQ)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 20, 2009 07:10 PM (btzPD)
+1-20 [roll 20 sided die]
No way. I made my initiative roll.
Oh dear God. I'm a Mets fan AND a D&D player.
I'm going to end it all and date Sally Ann.
Fare thee well.
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 20, 2009 07:11 PM (1O93r)
Uh, no. Erg doesn't give a shit whether we're "on to" him or not. Every time he comes on here, he has a new name and a new hash.
It's the same crap -- you're all stupid, I'm so smart, you're all anti-intellectuals, blah blah blah.
Yes, but that's been a characteristic of a lot of the trolls we get here. My point is, erg has a number of distinctive mannerisms that I don't see in any of the turdlets dropped by SAC. So I'm not convinced.
Posted by: OregonMuse at November 20, 2009 07:16 PM (hoowK)
Posted by: Sally's CavernousVagina-ina-ina-ina-ina... at November 20, 2009 07:22 PM (iGCmo)
OMG! Is anyone getting as turned on or as hungry as me? Sally Ann is waaay better than like Tila Tequila! Please be my new BFF!
Or dinner, whatever!!!!!111!! Twitter me, like fer shure!
Posted by: megs mac at November 20, 2009 07:27 PM (S3xX1)
OMG! Is anyone getting as turned on or as hungry as me? Sally Ann is waaay better than like Tila Tequila! Please be my new BFF!
Or dinner, whatever!!!!!111!! Twitter me, like fer shure!
Posted by: megs macNo, just suicidal.
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 20, 2009 07:31 PM (1O93r)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 20, 2009 07:48 PM (YRjsF)
Are you the Sally Ann Cavanaugh? The costume designer for the 2003 film Detour? That was such a great incredibly shitty flick!
Just like your comments and social skills.
Posted by: Josef K. at November 20, 2009 07:49 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: toby928 at November 20, 2009 08:00 PM (PD1tk)
I got to the store at like 11pm on Thurs night, so I was like the 90th person in line, and it was a steady flow all night and then a surge in the morning right after sunrise from people that had no idea what kind of turnout she would get. I'd say that they had 2,000-2,500 people easy where I was. The line wrapped all around the strip mall (Borders situated in the middle) until the end met up with the beginning.
Anyway IT WAS AWESOME and I got a good chunk of time with her because she loved my 'Reagan Resistance' shirt and the people who had already gone ahead of me said I had the most time with her up to that point. AWESOME. She's more gorgeous in person, and way more petite than I imagined. It totally had a campaign rally feel to it, not gonna lie. Just sayin.
I had a blast, met some cool people, and would do it all over again in a hot minute.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 20, 2009 08:00 PM (Ei3oZ)
Posted by: Barack Obama at November 20, 2009 08:31 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 20, 2009 08:44 PM (Qt4Y7)
1. Sarah took on corruption in her own party and risked her career in politics doing it. Name one politician who has done this that is currently serving. By the way, has Obama asked Charlie Rangel to step aside? NO, they are in the same party after all.
2. Sarah cut the budget in the Alaska which is unheard of. She saved money when the oil money was flowing in so now when the oil price dropped they are not cutting police or education or raising taxes to balance the budget. How are New York and California doing by the way on their budgets? How is Obama doing with his deficit projections? 9 trillion right?
3. Sarah TOOK ON THE MOST POWERFUL COMPANIES IN THE WORLD, the big oil companies to make sure Alaskans were getting a fair shake and SHE WON. Has Obama bucked the big labor unions in a similar fashion? Or the trial lawyers?
4. Sarah negotiated a natural gas pipeline deal that will result in the largest construction project in North America which will produce REAL JOBS and will provide CLEAN energy to the lower 48. Has Obama ever...oh never mind, its obvious he has not done anything like this and neither has anyone else who currently serves.
Posted by: Dan at November 20, 2009 08:48 PM (KZraB)
Posted by: Dan at November 20, 2009 08:49 PM (KZraB)
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2009 08:57 PM (jlvw3)
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Posted by: mbt shoes at November 20, 2009 09:06 PM (b1hdx)
I'm claiming bullshit on people like this:
There were approximately 400 people holding coveted wristbands outside in the rain when Gov. Palin's bus pulled away. I was one of the disappointed 400. At a minimum, she could have apologized and posed for a photo for the group. Instead, she waved as the bus pulled away. I'm returning my book to Borders tonight and I am rethinking my position on Gov. Palin.
You are such a piece of shit. There's no way you were ever a Palin supporter if that makes you rethink your position.
Posted by: pajama momma at November 20, 2009 09:14 PM (W2yhR)
Sally Ann,
I hope you are enjoying your trailer park living life. I just hope whatever criminal record you have keeps you from voting.
Posted by: sickinmass at November 20, 2009 09:30 PM (g7J39)
Any reason why you just c/p part of my post and nothing else?
Posted by: tdpwells at November 20, 2009 09:36 PM (Ei3oZ)
Posted by: nikkolai at November 20, 2009 09:36 PM (U0lNn)
Posted by: sickinmass at November 20, 2009 09:41 PM (g7J39)
Posted by: Deanna at November 20, 2009 09:44 PM (gxuV2)
Well I will tell you that the one that I was in (I don't normally shop there) had the book placed in such a way that people saw the 'Sarah From Alaska' book before 'Going Rogue' - when I was there to buy the book, numerous people walked right by the half-ass display and asking where it was. Methinks that was not coincidence.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 20, 2009 09:46 PM (Ei3oZ)
If I didn't know better, I would say that this might be her...
Posted by: Xoxotl at November 20, 2009 09:55 PM (j88uA)
Detainees in Iraq asking for a good waterboarding
BAGHDAD - It seems that the Brett Favre-Green Bay Packers saga is such a worldwide phenomenon that it's being used by detainees in American military camps.
According to a military official, detainees at a Wisconsin National Guard camp in Iraq are using Brett Favre as a manner of getting at the guard troops there.
"They know Favre by name," said First Lieutenant Tim Boehnen, who is from NewRichmond, Wis.
"One of the big words they know now is shenanigan. They'll constantly talk about 'Favre shenanigans,' 'He's so good for the Vikings,' and 'The Packers have got to really feel bad about that one.' "
According to Boehnen, it started when troops there started decorating their camp in Packers colors.....
Once the decoration job happened, detainees became curious.
"They obviously then started up the conversations, and started talking about Brett Favre. They soon learned about Favre going to the Vikings, and things just started going downhill from there."
Boehnen said soccer is the main sport that detainees pay attention to there, so there's not exactly a Vikings fan club chapter in Iraq.
"They'll hear guards talking about it, and then they pick up a lot of stuff from that, too," said Boehnen. "They're very crafty. They learn different stuff from different ways."
On an unrelated note, my latest diplomatic initiative to make friends with more progressives in my new Obamao t-shirt here.
Comments
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 04:36 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2009 04:37 PM (lYKj1)
Trik is not Sarah Palin's baby.
And Britney Spears' voovs are fake.
Oh, and Steve Phillips is a cubby chaser.
Posted by: detainee #483394 at November 20, 2009 04:41 PM (JY1gZ)
Posted by: fartbubble at November 20, 2009 04:41 PM (cBeTr)
Then this guy derka derka derka derka!
Derka WHAM!
WHAM!
WHAM!
Derka derka on the outside here ...
Then WHAM! DERKA!
Blazer was right ...
Posted by: Josef K. at November 20, 2009 04:41 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 20, 2009 04:45 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: mama winger at November 20, 2009 04:50 PM (Ue9UN)
Okay I see it now.
"The group is part of the 32nd Brigade, with more than 3,200 troops performing a number of missions in Iraq."
Yup. That be them.
Posted by: mama winger at November 20, 2009 04:52 PM (Ue9UN)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 20, 2009 04:53 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: CUS at November 20, 2009 04:57 PM (wOGfT)
9 - Heather - LOL!
Uff da - I have to send that along to the 32nd!
"Some of the most dramatic skirmishes were centered around Kenosha, where a mob of masked snowmobilers invaded the Texas Roadhouse on I-94, briefly holding the margarita machine hostage. They were later seen storming the beverage department at Woodman's, where they purchased several cases of Point and a pack of Merit menthols, and later at the Brat Stop classic rock/sausage outlet, where they were reported angrily "boogie-ing out" on air guitar to featured entertainment Molly Hatchett.
But by far the fiercest demonstration took place in Green Bay's Lambeau Shrine parking lot where throngs of Packer faithful burned Texas flags and effigies of Roger Staubach as Lutheran pastors led them in chants of "Those who defame the Vince suck" and "Favre is Great." Many of the frenzied demonstrators were seen ritualistically beating themselves with mozzarella sticks."
HAHAHA - I live within spittin' distance of the Brat Stop, and my kid is the Lutheran chaplain. HAHAHA!
Thank you for this! You just made my day. I'll see that this gets passed up the chain of command.
Posted by: mama winger at November 20, 2009 05:00 PM (Ue9UN)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 20, 2009 05:04 PM (NtiET)
The Brat Stop is a shrine.
Posted by: gus at November 20, 2009 05:05 PM (Vqruj)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 20, 2009 05:06 PM (jvrmc)
Posted by: Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat at November 20, 2009 05:08 PM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: bulwark at November 20, 2009 05:12 PM (jvrmc)
The Brat Stop is a shrine.
Posted by: gus at November 20, 2009 05:05 PM (Vqruj)
sadly that is all it is right now
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Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 20, 2009 05:22 PM (1hM1d)
Cordially,
Uncle J
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Hacked Emails Reveal: "Scientists" Faking Data to Establish Global Warming They Know Isn't There
And Conspiring to Delete Emails They're Supposed to Retain for FOIA Purposes
From: Phil JonesEmphases added. Please read the whole thing. This seems Rosetta Stone-ish to me. On the level of human psychology, scientific arguments aren't really exciting. To scientists they are. To political hawks they are. (When such science is hyperpoliticized, as it is here.) But most people don't find this interesting. What they do find interesting -- and by "interesting" I mean provoking an elemental human emotional response -- is deception, conspiracy, arrogance, and other forms of bad human behavior. Which is why Michael Crichton didn't write a dry scientific book about the cult of global warming. He wrote a fictive thriller, filled with... deception, conspiracy, arrogance, and other forms of bad human behavior. This, I think, will have legs. Not a Repost... A reassertion. Damn. I'm just so used to being late I always assume the site is late, and I never consider the possibility that, say, Gabe already covered this. I'm not embarrassed about this one at all. Well... not that embarrassed. I'm glad Gabe got to it early. I don't care if this is the third post on this. This is frickin' huge, man. I want these emails, man. I need this file. More: andycanuck tells me to check Adnrew Bolt and Tim Blair. I've been reading Going Rogue to review it but now I'm thinking I need to read emails. Nah, I'll get to Palin's book, too. But damn. This is awesome. From Blair:
To: ray bradley ,mann@[snipped], mhughes@
[snipped]
Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
Cc: k.briffa@[snipped],t.osborn@[snipped]
Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
Once Tims got a diagram here well send that either later today or first thing tomorrow. Ive just completed Mikes Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd [sic] from1961 for Keiths to hide the decline. Mikes series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998. Thanks for the comments, Ray. Cheers, Phil
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit
UPDATE VIII. The BBC reports on the scandal. Its all about the hacking. Incidentally, the correct name of this place is University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit or CRU. Nothing to do with Hadley. (Via reader Thin & British)As I have pointed out ad nauseam: When a leak hurts the right, the story is about the content of the leak. When a leak hurts the left, the content of the leak is ignored, and the story is about the nefarious and criminal evil-doing that produced the leak, and how awful that is, and oh, look, here's an important story about how tough large-breasted women have it when they attempt jogging or gymnastics. Let's talk about that. Not this time, boys. Not this time.
The File: At MegaUpload, thanks to Peaches. This is the most bonerific file I've ever downloaded from MegaUpload, and if you've used MegaUpload for purposes other than downloading hacked climate-warming fraud emails, you know that's saying something. Conspiracy: Scan down to Update 3 and further. The problem isn't merely that they're manipulating data -- they also seem to be colluding and conspiring to destroy emails which would reveal this fact. And those emails are themselves discoverable through FOIA requests. Is this illegal? It would seem it has to be illegal -- or else FOIA has no purpose. Great Comment:DaveS. recaps. This is deadly stuff.
Comments
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2009 04:25 PM (RD7QR)
I wish someone would have posted on the Hadley Particle Colluder earlier.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2009 04:26 PM (2qU2d)
Posted by: taylork at November 20, 2009 04:26 PM (4jZ56)
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 20, 2009 04:27 PM (Haq+B)
Has anybody tried Climate Audit recently?
Read through the comments. Readers are coming up with all sorts of incriminating emails about fixing "things" etc. It's well worth the time spent there.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2009 04:27 PM (2qU2d)
Posted by: RIP Ford at November 20, 2009 04:28 PM (UWM37)
Posted by: DrewM. at November 20, 2009 04:28 PM (FCWQb)
Higgs boson impacts are screwing up our posts here.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 04:28 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Barry O-bow-ma at November 20, 2009 04:28 PM (6268o)
Umm, did we cross over the event horizon, because I could have sworn Malor had two posts up earlier about this exact same thing.
Nope, thats just typical ace.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 04:28 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Al Gore at November 20, 2009 04:28 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2009 04:30 PM (1bQOq)
Wait, their e-mails were hacked again???
Boy, for a bunch of so-called scientists, they are really pretty fucking stupid.
Posted by: wiserbud at November 20, 2009 04:30 PM (tWf3S)
More importantly, there are universes where Ace doesn't double post. Alas, this isn't one of them.
Posted by: Snooty Frech And Swiss Scientists at November 20, 2009 04:31 PM (FCWQb)
And here are some more direct links to some of the HA summations.
There are interesting summations and links here at Aussie Andrew Bolt's MSM blog.
And at editor Tim Blair's MSM blog.
BTW, is that a goatee you're sporting, DrewM? (And I'm assuming the Hadron Particle Collider hasn't erased the embedded links, above.)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2009 04:31 PM (2qU2d)
So, they lied? And manipulated data to make their case? Really? Color me shocked. Which is sort of a chartreuse color actually.
Yoo hoo, Al Gore, looks like there's some inconvenient truths heading your way you great big gassy ball of planet destroying flatulence.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 04:32 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Jim at November 20, 2009 04:32 PM (E725N)
Ive just completed Mikes Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd [sic] from1961 for Keiths to hide the decline
It seems to me that Phil & MIke acted stupidly.
Posted by: BHO get used to it suckas at November 20, 2009 04:32 PM (pr+up)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 20, 2009 04:33 PM (RZ8pf)
That's a very bold apology, Ace. I doubt we'll see one from the AGW MSM or the AGW "scientists".
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2009 04:33 PM (2qU2d)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 04:33 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Jim at November 20, 2009 04:34 PM (E725N)
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2009 04:34 PM (1bQOq)
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp, Dicer of Fools at November 20, 2009 04:34 PM (pLTLS)
Color me shocked. Which is sort of a chartreuse color actually.
As a heterosexual male of the species, I have no clue as what shade of color chartreuse is.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 04:34 PM (B+qrE)
I want these emails, man. I need this file.
Have another cup of coffee...
Posted by: Ace's #1 Fan at November 20, 2009 04:35 PM (PMGbu)
Posted by: h2u at November 20, 2009 04:35 PM (6UAoo)
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2009 04:36 PM (PjevJ)
Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2009 04:36 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Peaches at November 20, 2009 04:37 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: LikeATimeBomb at November 20, 2009 04:37 PM (dwwPD)
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2009 04:37 PM (PjevJ)
Posted by: Obligatory Comment Mentioning Olivia Wilde at November 20, 2009 04:38 PM (GEBXA)
Posted by: Cicero at November 20, 2009 04:38 PM (QKKT0)
Denninger's also got the whole 60 meg file up on his storage site if you really really want it. Not linking directly because he doesn't want the site hammered.
Posted by: Rollory at November 20, 2009 04:39 PM (A8ejN)
Go here for some weak defense of this information, including this gem:
"Nonetheless, these emails (a presumably careful selection of (possibly edited?) correspondence ...."
They have about as much real evidence that these e-mails were edited as they do to support AGW, but that doesn't stop them from off-handedly making the claim that they were edited.
Shocking, I know.
Posted by: wiserbud at November 20, 2009 04:40 PM (tWf3S)
BWAHAHAHAHA.
"Hide the decline."
That's my new favorite motto. I will use it in any scenario or situation involving my liberal co-workers and other people I must deal with.
"That's a great chart. The boss will love it. How did you hide the decline?"
"What? Obama's numbers are going down? How will he hide the decline?"
"What? Unemployment is still going up, even after Obama's stimulus? How will he hide the decline?"
This flaming skull will be the gift that keeps on giving. Think of it as a case of political herpes to a liberal.
Posted by: Blogluddite at November 20, 2009 04:40 PM (fDWFP)
Posted by: TonyRezko at November 20, 2009 04:41 PM (+jw61)
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2009 04:42 PM (jlvw3)
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2009 04:42 PM (oObEM)
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2009 04:42 PM (jlvw3)
Posted by: Peaches at November 20, 2009 04:44 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at November 20, 2009 04:45 PM (+lsX1)
In that case, they refused to see that "fix" meant "position" rather than "fabricate".
For the sake of intellectual honesty, is there any wiggle room here in which "hid[ing] the decline" actually means something other than what we think it does?
Posted by: Kensington at November 20, 2009 04:45 PM (kSpSZ)
As for the content, whether or not the emails point to real scientific malpractice in the production of numbers, they certainly point to a conspiracy in the manipulation of the peer-review and publishing process and the ones about requesting deletion of emails regarding IPCC reports may well be criminal in intent.
I'll let others better qualified pick through the data and code provided.
Posted by: mrkwong at November 20, 2009 04:45 PM (G8Eo0)
Posted by: Ken at November 20, 2009 04:45 PM (9zzk+)
Posted by: Peaches at November 20, 2009 04:46 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 20, 2009 04:46 PM (SD7yA)
Posted by: YRM at November 20, 2009 04:47 PM (eySZ7)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Coffee at November 20, 2009 04:47 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2009 04:48 PM (tJF9l)
In all seriousness now that we've raked Ace over the skull...
How can these people ever be taken seriously again? We have all long suspected that this kind of blatant dishonesty was ongoing--for the sake of grant money, for the sake of publication, for the sake of being one of the cool kids...and now here is the smoking gun.
These guys are no different than those who lie and manipulate in any other criminal enterprise. They are the intellectual equivalent of odometer-altering used car salesmen.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 04:48 PM (B+qrE)
Yeah, you'd think that would be like blood in the water for serious journalism types. Considering the appearance of this file screams "whistleblower", and the story involves the creation of a fake scare that has resulted in the enrichment of some very shady and morally questionable people, you'd think the press would be over this like goose shit on a suburban lawn.
And yet, because it brings into question one of the fundamental tenets of their beliefs, and makes the Sainted Algore look even more like a fraud, I get the feeling the bulk of their reporting will be about the "hacking".
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:48 PM (ZJ/un)
Ahhh... MegaUpload. I am familiar with this site. But usually not for work or politics.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2009 04:42 PM (jlvw3)
heh, I see what you did there.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 04:48 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Cicero at November 20, 2009 04:50 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Coffee at November 20, 2009 04:47 PM (erIg9)
Heh, Meteors, I fart in their general direction and bid them adieu.
Posted by: The Large Hadron Murder Machine at November 20, 2009 04:50 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Long John Silver at November 20, 2009 04:50 PM (kKP5O)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 20, 2009 04:50 PM (jvrmc)
Posted by: YRM at November 20, 2009 04:51 PM (eySZ7)
Dude, don't be hating on the used car salesmen. They're better than these scum.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 20, 2009 04:51 PM (SD7yA)
Yes. It is entirely possible that one could be dealing with a very jury-rigged statistical series where due to changing conditions and changing methods of gathering data and other similar artifacts, a trend appears in the data past a point that common sense says that trend never actually existed. So you'd want to correct for that, by putting in some data that reflects the change in the inputs. The phrase could mean that.
Regardless of whether that particular instance was innocent or not, there's enough other circumstantial evidence of fraud to be trouble.
Posted by: Rollory at November 20, 2009 04:51 PM (A8ejN)
Posted by: God at November 20, 2009 04:51 PM (eySZ7)
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2009 04:53 PM (jlvw3)
Dude, don't be hating on the used car salesmen. They're better than these scum.
True -- the used car salesman isn't trying to control what kind of fricking lightbulbs you have in your house. The used car salesman isn't trying to take control of your refrigerator's temperature, and won't try to get your kid to turn you in for running your furnace too warm in the winter.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:53 PM (ZJ/un)
Posted by: Usful Ijit at November 20, 2009 04:54 PM (+8fSS)
My wife saw what I was downloading from mega upload and put her hand on my head and called the doctor.
Shes worried about my loss of autoerotic impulse.
I told her not to worry. I had wood. I have wood baby.
Posted by: lonetown at November 20, 2009 04:54 PM (6q//N)
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2009 04:54 PM (5ddCw)
Consider yourself doubly banned.
I bid you adieu
Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 20, 2009 04:50 PM (jvrmc)
Cahrles, Jesus loves you, in spite of yourself.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Guinness, and Near Miss Meteors at November 20, 2009 04:55 PM (erIg9)
Must. not. respond! Do. not. want. to. become. Charles. Johnson! Must. resist!
...battle...lost...
You, sir, are a primate, just like your close cousins, Chimpanzees and Bonobos. Your DNA and that of Pan Troglodytes is about 96% the same. (Even closer for Bonobos.) No one is asking you to like it, but you can sequence the DNA for yourself and see it -- you can run the experiment yourself. There is nothing about this fact of life that proves (or disproves) God. The magisteria do not overlap (regardless of what that douche Richard Dawkins may say).
The irony here is that evolution, which is indeed "settled science", has to content with doubters from all quarters; yet AGW, which never has had much real scientific evidence, is blandly accepted by people who should know better. In fact, I've often wondered if the AGW quacks looked at the endless wars the anthropologists had to fight and decided to simply pre-empt the hard part (being the actual science) by just lying their asses off.
Posted by: Monty at November 20, 2009 04:55 PM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 20, 2009 04:56 PM (SD7yA)
Posted by: Bosk at November 20, 2009 04:56 PM (pUO5u)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Guinness, and Near Miss Meteors at November 20, 2009 04:57 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Barry O-bow-ma at November 20, 2009 04:57 PM (6268o)
Posted by: SGT Dan at November 20, 2009 04:57 PM (ZP+gj)
Cahrles, Jesus loves you, in spite of yourself.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Guinness, and Near Miss Meteors at November 20, 2009 04:55 PM (erIg9)
shhhhh, he'll be smoking a turd in purgatory before he knows it and riding down to the shore of the flaming river Styx to take pictures of dilapidated piers and concrete breakwaters.
Posted by: God at November 20, 2009 04:58 PM (+FzLa)
This, I think, will have legs.
Indeed. On just this site alone, apparently.
btw, welcome to 10 hours ago, Ace.
Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 20, 2009 04:58 PM (JY1gZ)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at November 20, 2009 04:58 PM (MbyMv)
Rolloroy,
I can see no room from the sentences in the passage that Ace quoted that could lead to that explanation. It simply does not fit.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 04:58 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: right at November 20, 2009 04:58 PM (EquV1)
Posted by: Max Power is frantically deleating all his e-mails at November 20, 2009 04:59 PM (q177U)
As a heterosexual male of the species, I have no clue as what shade of color chartreuse is.
Dude, it's ok to admit to knowing what color this is. After all. some fishing lures are in chartreuse. Which, if my beer sotted brain can recall properly, is some sort of neon green.
Posted by: Dale in San Antonio(Not Dave!) at November 20, 2009 04:59 PM (sXEVG)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 20, 2009 05:00 PM (kKP5O)
Charles Johnson picked a pretty bad year to go full retard. Ain't been much breaking his way the past 6 months, and the future looks pretty bleak too.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 20, 2009 04:56 PM (SD7yA)
Just so you know, if your looking for some mom-jeans off of Amazon, I'm your go to guy.
Posted by: The formerly sane blogger known as Charles Johnson at November 20, 2009 05:00 PM (+FzLa)
That's all right. Sometimes a pleasure deferred is all the greater for having been delayed.
Posted by: Monty at November 20, 2009 05:01 PM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 20, 2009 05:01 PM (SD7yA)
Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 20, 2009 05:01 PM (JY1gZ)
Posted by: Laptop Battery Guy at November 20, 2009 05:01 PM (erIg9)
I've got a pile of Palin's email getting hacked stories to drop on them.
Posted by: WTFCI at November 20, 2009 05:03 PM (GtYrq)
Posted by: K~Bob at November 20, 2009 05:03 PM (WtrwW)
Posted by: Syracuse1989 at November 20, 2009 05:03 PM (VIkVf)
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2009 05:03 PM (7K04W)
But I'm not saying it's the best explanation.
Posted by: Rollory at November 20, 2009 05:04 PM (A8ejN)
[lazy-ass italics]Sometimes a pleasure deferred is all the greater for having been delayed.[/lazy-ass italics]
Definitely. Any thread by Ace is 10x better than his co-bloggers.
Even if Ace just posts the exact same thing verbatim, it's still better because it has -Ace in the byline.
Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 20, 2009 05:05 PM (JY1gZ)
But I'm not saying it's the best explanation.
Posted by: Rollory at November 20, 2009 05:04 PM (A8ejN)
Well, we know for damned sure that FiftyTwo Percent of them do...assholes.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Guinness, and Near Miss Meteors at November 20, 2009 05:05 PM (erIg9)
Yeah, I'm guessing Inhofe has an erection lasting more than 4 hours over this. Not to put an unwelcome image in your head or anything.
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2009 05:06 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Christopher taylor at November 20, 2009 05:06 PM (PQY7w)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 20, 2009 05:06 PM (kKP5O)
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2009 05:06 PM (RD7QR)
gee, thanks for that. I now need a bucket of mind-bleach.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Guinness, and Near Miss Meteors at November 20, 2009 05:06 PM (erIg9)
"Regardless of whether that particular instance was innocent or not, there's enough other circumstantial evidence of fraud to be trouble."
Good to know, thanks!
Posted by: Kensington at November 20, 2009 05:07 PM (kSpSZ)
1) Climate scientists are more interested in manipulating data to make it substantiate a predetermined narrative (It would be good to remove at least part of the 1940s blip ) and
2) They are often merely tweaking the variables that are actually known and understood to make data fit what is supposed to look right given those knowledge constraints and their preconceptions/preferences. Prime example: "Ive chosen 0.15 here deliberately. This still leaves an ocean blip, and i think one needs to have some form of ocean blip to explain the land blip (via either some common forcing, or ocean forcing land, or vice versa, or all of these). When you look at other blips, the land blips are 1.5 to 2 times (roughly) the ocean blips higher sensitivity plus thermal inertia effects. My 0.15 adjustment leaves things consistent with this...". In other words, they are totally making shit up.
3) They work to suppress dissenting views and data, by actually hiding data (suggesting deletion of emails), manipulating the pier review process, and pressuring publishers ("Note that I am copying this view only to Mike Hulme and Phil Jones. Mikes idea to get editorial board members to resign will probably not work"), a problem reinforced by the buddy-buddy fraternity that exist across organizations (Ive just completed Mikes Nature trick ).
Gavin gave me a "Fair point, but..."
Posted by: DaveS at November 20, 2009 05:07 PM (o4Xc4)
Guess what?
I was the only post - and my post was to enlighten this jackass of the information released today.
Not going well for environmentalist wackos.
Posted by: Def Leppard at November 20, 2009 05:07 PM (hIOnV)
Posted by: right at November 20, 2009 05:07 PM (EquV1)
I just had this mental image of Inhofe holding Babs Boxers' hand and making her smack herself repeatedly in the nose, all the while chanting, "Quit hitting yourself! Quit hitting yourself!"
Posted by: Monty at November 20, 2009 05:07 PM (4Pleu)
As a heterosexual male of the species, I have no clue as what shade of color chartreuse is.
Dude, it's ok to admit to knowing what color this is. After all. some fishing lures are in chartreuse. *emoticon* Which, if my beer sotted brain can recall properly, is some sort of neon green.
=====
Posted by: K~Bob at November 20, 2009 05:08 PM (WtrwW)
What's funny is Uncle Jimbo, god bless 'im, pushes down a flaming skull post with a post about his latest Facebook entry.
Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 20, 2009 05:08 PM (JY1gZ)
Posted by: Def Leppard at November 20, 2009 05:08 PM (hIOnV)
Posted by: CA Big Screen TV at November 20, 2009 05:08 PM (cvmTR)
I'm doing a Snoopy dance right now....and the FedEx driver that just left the shop is thinking I'm nuts.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2009 05:09 PM (l1Wlr)
Posted by: Senator James Inhofe at November 20, 2009 05:09 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Van Jones at November 20, 2009 05:09 PM (cvmTR)
Posted by: Def Leppard at November 20, 2009 05:08 PM (hIOnV)
Use both hands next time.
Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 20, 2009 05:09 PM (kKP5O)
Posted by: Chris Matthews crazy brother at November 20, 2009 05:09 PM (0N9lD)
#100 Keep an eye on your comment, DaveS, and report back to us. Apparently RealClimate deletes wrong thinking.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2009 05:10 PM (2qU2d)
Posted by: CDR M at November 20, 2009 05:11 PM (cvmTR)
Posted by: MSM at November 20, 2009 05:12 PM (2JBGY)
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2009 05:12 PM (ouk5a)
Wow. That is beautiful. Of course, it should be "Quit hitting yourself, Ma'am." *Grin*
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 20, 2009 05:12 PM (NtiET)
From: "paul horsman" - paul.horsman (at) uk.greenpeace.org
To: m.kelly (at) uea.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:45:23 -0700
Hi Mick,
It was good to see you again yesterday - if briefly. One particularthing you said - and we agreed - was about the IPCC reports and
the broader climate negotiations were working to the globalisation
agenda driven by organisations like the WTO.
seem a little too red meatish.
Posted by: If it's a honey trap, where's my leggy blonde? at November 20, 2009 05:12 PM (Oxj60)
Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2009 05:13 PM (6Njk9)
Posted by: Pelayo at November 20, 2009 05:13 PM (wwQxi)
#100 Keep an eye on your comment, DaveS, and report back to us. Apparently RealClimate deletes wrong thinking.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2009 05:10 PM (2qU2d)
The AGW believers are all a flutter over the act of the hack, and not the content of the discovered material. Not surprised.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Guinness, and Near Miss Meteors at November 20, 2009 05:14 PM (erIg9)
Boy, for a bunch of so-called scientists, they are really pretty fucking stupid.
Keep in mind that security impairs the use of computers. The way I put it, a perfectly secured computer is protected by a company of Marines with orders to shoot-on-sight, inside a vault, with no networking, and the vault is filled with concrete. But that's just a giant paperweight and not particularly useful. But the data is safe.
I've seen a note saying that they're requiring a reset of everyone's passwords. So maybe one of the geniuses had their wife's first name as a password, or perhaps it was "fluffy" or something easily discovered via a dictionary attack.
Or it was no crack, and simply an insider deciding it was time to do a little whistleblowing. Make it look like a crack, deposit the files on warez sites and no immediate backlash.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 20, 2009 05:14 PM (1hM1d)
But foundries give off CO2, Pelayo. They'd never do that.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2009 05:15 PM (2qU2d)
4.What does Cap and Trade mean to you:
a.That CO2 poison gas will be reduced in the atmosphere.
b.Its about balance of power and world domination.
c.laptop battery are spewing toxic chemicals into my drinking water
Posted by: sTevo at November 20, 2009 05:15 PM (eA3tl)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 20, 2009 05:16 PM (kKP5O)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Guinness, and Near Miss Meteors at November 20, 2009 05:16 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 20, 2009 05:17 PM (kKP5O)
Or it was no crack, and simply an insider deciding it was time to do a little whistleblowing.
A few commenters have been speculating that it was someone in the Brits' FOI office doing it, ticked off at how much wasn't being released etc.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2009 05:18 PM (2qU2d)
As far as FOIA requests, send 'em to NCAR, which is where Trenberth works. NCAR == National Center for Atmospheric Research.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 20, 2009 05:18 PM (1hM1d)
Posted by: sTevo at November 20, 2009 05:18 PM (eA3tl)
Just noticed that Dingleberry Johnson is basically saying that Giles and O'keefe are white supremacist Nazis because they had their pic taken with Robert Stacy McCain.
He just made my top ten list of people I'm gonna punch in the face if I ever meet 'em.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 05:18 PM (+FzLa)
There never was a debate on global warming. It has always been a political topic rather than a scientific one. I purposely go to a Libtard website and battle them..they can't stand up to a real debate..they show no facts..they just keep the bumper sticker rhetoric flying my way, making no real points...But that does not stop a fascist! Zealots and fascists will not let some pesky facts and science get in their way...Nope! Twist the data to fit the ideal or demonize anyone that disagrees!
Remember Morons, we are the idiots.
I prefer politicians like Pelosi, she is so warm and caring. I'm sure she would give us a big hug right before she sends us to the ovens.
Posted by: sickinmass at November 20, 2009 05:18 PM (g7J39)
Posted by: CDR M at November 20, 2009 05:18 PM (cvmTR)
Posted by: Al Gore at November 20, 2009 05:18 PM (l1Wlr)
Posted by: ray at November 20, 2009 05:19 PM (9+P9E)
Posted by: motionview at November 20, 2009 05:19 PM (is1tF)
Posted by: pat at November 20, 2009 05:20 PM (h4Zo6)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Guinness, and Near Miss Meteors at November 20, 2009 05:16 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 05:20 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: sickinmass at November 20, 2009 05:20 PM (g7J39)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2009 05:20 PM (2qU2d)
Gabe? Never heard of him.
And is this my ass, or a whole in the ground? Little help please?
Posted by: Charles Gibson, Outsourcing to Blogdom at November 20, 2009 05:21 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: Al Gore at November 20, 2009 05:18 PM (l1Wlr)
It should be it is 10 million degrees.
Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 20, 2009 05:21 PM (kKP5O)
I'm thinking as Ace suggested, this is indeed the Rosetta Stone. Its going to connect a lot of the dots.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 20, 2009 05:21 PM (SD7yA)
Reprise of an ego check moment that I posted this morning.
Hey, "Professor" Joes et al:
You are here. Along with everyone else.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 05:21 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Charles Gibson, Outsourcing to Blogdom at November 20, 2009 05:21 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: Syracuse1989 at November 20, 2009 05:03 PM (VIkVf)
I think the distaff equivalent of "ball-dippingly" is "lip-smackingly"... as in all six lips.
Posted by: stuiec at November 20, 2009 05:22 PM (7AOgy)
That email to me seems red meatish but for the left. The complaint being made seems to be a lefty one, that the climate cause is being sold out to globalization.
So that doesn't seem to be a red flag to me. Sound like a lefty grousing.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2009 05:22 PM (jlvw3)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2009 05:23 PM (2qU2d)
Charles, Charles...what happened to you, man? A bad divorce? A drug deal gone bad? Blackmail? It's like the real Charles Johnson is languishing in a cellar somewhere like a modern-day Prisoner of Zenda while an evil doppelganger spouts all this leftist drivel.
I've just never seen a guy go from "moderately cool" to "complete douchebag" in such a short time absent any major life-trauma.
Posted by: Monty at November 20, 2009 05:23 PM (4Pleu)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 05:23 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2009 05:23 PM (CDUiN)
Morsels like:
. . . One particular thing you said - and we agreed - was about the IPCC reports and the broader climate negotiations were working to the globalisation agenda driven by organisations like the WTO. . .
seem a little too red meatish.
Yes, they do to normal people. I worked around government science researchers in the early '90s. They didn't spout this kind of wonky, pseudo-intellectual jargonese. But the activist types from the NGOs who attend conferences (groupies) do talk like that.
It's what passes for smarts for people with nothing but shit between their ears.
Posted by: MikeO at November 20, 2009 05:24 PM (dYNrR)
Is that you waving on the left, Circa?
1. That's not a wave. IYKWIMAITYD.
2. You still are not allowed to touch my head.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 05:25 PM (B+qrE)
Come on, people. This junk science stuff you wing nuts are throwing up on the table means nothing. If you weren't so busy obsessing about and hating Obama, you would realize that it is Global Climate Change, not Global Warming that is important now. The debate is over.
/sarc
Posted by: RM at November 20, 2009 05:25 PM (GkYyh)
"But foundries give off CO2, Pelayo. They'd never do that."
To lessen the carbon foot print created when really, really deleting a file, use the alternative method of taking the hard drive apart and using an Exacto knife to scrape all the magnetic media off.
Posted by: Pelayo at November 20, 2009 05:26 PM (wwQxi)
I've just never seen a guy go from "moderately cool" to "complete douchebag" in such a short time absent any major life-trauma.
Posted by: Monty at November 20, 2009 05:23 PM (4Pleu)
That is the real CJ. After 9/11, he was just a single issue conservative anyway. Since about the fall of '07 he started reverting back to his lefty form.
The transformation is now fully complete. He only exists now to be contradictory to anything on the right.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 05:27 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 05:28 PM (3nPNg)
Posted by: Pelayo
yea but but but....they took our knives away.
Posted by: sTevo at November 20, 2009 05:28 PM (eA3tl)
using an Exacto knife to scrape all the magnetic media off.
Season to taste. Serve with crackers or pita bread.
Serves 4.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 05:28 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Todd (I wish my last name was Palin) at November 20, 2009 05:31 PM (LLOGQ)
Posted by: Pelayo at November 20, 2009 05:31 PM (wwQxi)
Al Gore should be sent to a federal penitentiary for fraud and made to play hide the sausage, starring Big Bubba.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 05:33 PM (+FzLa)
I think its the meth. How else would he come up with all that hair-brained shit?
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2009 05:34 PM (wAQA5)
This is definitely big news, since all of you have ignored Ace's coining of the Moronpolooza motto:
tough large-breasted women
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 20, 2009 05:34 PM (Be4xl)
I'm a firestarter, a wicked firestarter!
"ceremonial" fires are still legal in the People's Republic of New York.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 20, 2009 05:34 PM (NtiET)
I love it when this happens
A guy and a gal walk into a community action office and make a videotape.
Some emails are published, that were never meant to see the light of day.
It's always that one small banana peel which topples the monster.
Posted by: Jones at November 20, 2009 05:36 PM (JL3qV)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 20, 2009 05:37 PM (QECjC)
Posted by: wrg at November 20, 2009 05:38 PM (7t+Ws)
Someone should helicopter drop the man-bear-pig off on an ice sheet, naked and bleeding in front of a bunch of hungry polar bears. That would be poetic justice.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 05:38 PM (+FzLa)
This is definitely big news, since all of you have ignored Ace's coining of the Moronpolooza motto:
tough large-breasted women
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 20, 2009 05:34 PM (Be4xl)
Shouldn't that be, "Hot, Wet, Large-Breasted Women Writhing Orgasmically in Heat"?
Just saying.
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 20, 2009 05:39 PM (QECjC)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 20, 2009 05:39 PM (kKP5O)
Posted by: Pelayo at November 20, 2009 05:40 PM (wwQxi)
Hey now -- the color is named after a 110 proof booze. True story.
Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at November 20, 2009 05:40 PM (j02xJ)
Posted by: sTevo at November 20, 2009 05:41 PM (eA3tl)
Posted by: If it's a honey trap, where's my leggy blonde? at November 20, 2009 05:41 PM (Oxj60)
Posted by: sickinmass at November 20, 2009 05:42 PM (g7J39)
here's an important story about how tough large-breasted women have it when they attempt jogging or gymnastics. Let's talk about that.
That does sound important and by God we should talk about it. If we don't, then the terrorists will have won.
Posted by: UGAdawg at November 20, 2009 05:43 PM (O4miG)
Posted by: Pelayo at November 20, 2009 05:40 PM (wwQxi)
......or dress him in a polar bear costume and cover him with female bear pheromones.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 05:43 PM (+FzLa)
>a heterosexual male of the species, I have no clue as what shade of color chartreuse is.
it's the color of anti-freeze- and I'm so manly the hairs on my ballsack have their own hairs
Posted by: Jones at November 20, 2009 05:43 PM (JL3qV)
--- posting from work where I am not banned!
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at November 20, 2009 05:44 PM (MbyMv)
Fercrissakes! If those tree huggers really wanted to help me, they'd take a bath ... WITH SOAP.
Jeez.
Posted by: Mother Gaia at November 20, 2009 05:44 PM (SPSOE)
Posted by: RobD at November 20, 2009 05:45 PM (wGIVf)
Posted by: Dick 'WarCock' Cheney at November 20, 2009 05:45 PM (+FzLa)
Posted by: gp at November 20, 2009 05:45 PM (qtl7U)
Posted by: gp at November 20, 2009 05:47 PM (qtl7U)
......or dress him in a polar bear costume and cover him with female bear pheromones.
Posted by: Blazer
Nice touch.
Posted by: wrg at November 20, 2009 05:47 PM (7t+Ws)
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 20, 2009 05:48 PM (Be4xl)
Manliness?
No joke-just punchline
The man with no arms said, "How do you think I rang to doorbell."
Posted by: Pelayo at November 20, 2009 05:49 PM (wwQxi)
Posted by: sherlock at November 20, 2009 05:49 PM (fKPuo)
Posted by: Ella at November 20, 2009 05:49 PM (y0vbB)
Hey, I'm just asking questions...
Posted by: OregonMuse at November 20, 2009 05:51 PM (hoowK)
Posted by: Eric Cartman at November 20, 2009 05:53 PM (SPSOE)
Talk about an early Xmas present!
I'll just bet Michael "Hoky Schtick" Mann just soiled his panties.
Posted by: DngrMse at November 20, 2009 05:53 PM (zGzBG)
How does FOIA apply to a British university? FOIA is an American law, applicable only to US govt files, isn't it?
Posted by: gp at November 20, 2009 05:45 PM (qtl7U)
Good point. Not wanting to piss on anybody's parade, but that was my first thought.You'd have to axe an expert on Limey law to get a good answer.
Posted by: Tinian at November 20, 2009 05:54 PM (7+pP9)
Must not be all that bad since Allahpundit hasnt suffered any third-degree burns to his lips yet.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 05:54 PM (+FzLa)
Michael Mann addressing the recent "What happened to global warming? article by the BBC's Paul Hudson which caused such outrage among the econuts
From: Michael Mann
To: Stephen H Schneider
Subject: Re: BBC U-turn on climate
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:00:44 -0400
Cc: Myles Allen , peter stott , Philip D. Jones , Benjamin Santer , Tom Wigley , Thomas R Karl , Gavin Schmidt , James Hansen , trenbert , Michael Oppenheimer
extremely disappointing to see something like this appear on BBC. its particularly odd, since climate is usually Richard Blacks beat at BBC (and he does a great job). from what I can tell, this guy was formerly a weather person at the Met Office.
We may do something about this on RealClimate, but meanwhile it might be appropriate for the Met Office to have a say about this, I might ask Richard Black whats up here?
http://tinyurl.com/yzm7yz9
mike
-----
Also Newsbusters:
*****Update: Readers are STRONGLY encouraged to watch the scrambling going on at RealClimate.
http://tinyurl.com/ydjk3c8
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at November 20, 2009 05:54 PM (MbyMv)
Posted by: Charlie G. at November 20, 2009 05:54 PM (Be4xl)
Posted by: gp at November 20, 2009 05:55 PM (qtl7U)
Posted by: Vice President Biden at November 20, 2009 05:55 PM (vwTt0)
In the mean time you thought the left were petty and vindictive before? Watch what is about to unfold.
Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at November 20, 2009 05:59 PM (tzcjs)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at November 20, 2009 05:59 PM (MbyMv)
Posted by: Truman North at November 20, 2009 06:00 PM (e8YaH)
Posted by: gp at November 20, 2009 06:00 PM (qtl7U)
To make it more clear, you'd have to axe an expert on Limey law to get an answer about which records generated from public funded research are open to the public.
They're a weird lot over there, with their torches and lorries and flats and lifts.
Posted by: Tinian at November 20, 2009 06:02 PM (7+pP9)
This is the most bonerific file I've ever downloaded from MegaUpload, and if you've used MegaUpload for purposes other than downloading hacked climate-warming fraud emails, you know that's saying something.
Kphhhbblphhhh!
That's funny stuff.
Posted by: Entropy at November 20, 2009 06:02 PM (cok/k)
I would suspect that if you receive gov't funding, FOI rules are part of the bargain.
Posted by: fluffy at November 20, 2009 06:03 PM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: drillanwr at November 20, 2009 06:03 PM (1kwr2)
One has to wonder if this was an insider. As I understand it, there are also temperature data files and source code for the compiling programs. That may prove to be even more valuable over the long haul.
Posted by: Mark at November 20, 2009 06:03 PM (Vvbjc)
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 05:38 PM (+FzLa)
And if he complains say "Are they not an endangered species?"
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2009 06:04 PM (oObEM)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 20, 2009 06:05 PM (zGzBG)
This is the most bonerific file I've ever downloaded from MegaUpload, and if you've used MegaUpload for purposes other than downloading hacked climate-warming fraud emails, you know that's saying something.
Uh-oh. Ace has a hardon for this issue. Somebody better duck-n-cover.
Ayup, it's a palpable boner. Whoops. That's mine. Anyay. Yeah, I'm smiling about this one too.
Ace, I know you don't need to be told, but follow the money. IOW, look for the "why." It can't all be political ideology or religion, i.e., the religion of socialism. Well. Maybe it can be. But I wanna know how they stood to gain.
Sounds like we gonna have us a hootinanny!
Posted by: The Boobie Watcher (rdb) at November 20, 2009 06:06 PM (p5QqI)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at November 20, 2009 06:06 PM (MbyMv)
"They're a weird lot over there, with their torches and lorries and flats and lifts."
Not to mention boots, bonnets, beam dippers, and the funniest of all - little johnnies.
Posted by: Pelayo at November 20, 2009 06:08 PM (wwQxi)
If polar bears are like grizzlies, they'll eat anything, including their own shit.
Although, they might draw the line at manbearpig, especially if it's uncooked.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2009 06:12 PM (l1Wlr)
Posted by: gp at November 20, 2009 06:19 PM (qtl7U)
Posted by: gp at November 20, 2009 06:20 PM (qtl7U)
And you're all racists for admiring Hannah Giles ass which was groped by known racist Stacy McCain
And if you're thinking of registering during my open period, the door is now closed. I have enough fresh new names to hit with my new ban stick.
Shut up Shamuta, it does NOT taste like bicycle chain oil!
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And you can get it on Kindle now!
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Posted by: Chucky Johnson at November 20, 2009 06:28 PM (7FgWm)
Before it's washed to the sea?
Yes, 'n' how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free?
Yes, 'n' how many times can a man manipulate data,
Pretending he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is glo-o-bal warming,
The answer is glo-o-bal warming,
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 06:29 PM (DIYmd)
And the Russian version of "take a dim view" usually involves birch logging above the Arctic Circle on 900 calories a day.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2009 06:30 PM (l1Wlr)
I am truly impressed. I always knew they were duping us, and this ONE SENTENCE in thousands of e-mails sent over years is absolute PROOF of a global scientific conspiracy!
I think we should round up all the scientists and put them in gulags!
Got anything else?????
Posted by: JEA at November 20, 2009 06:31 PM (xTCi0)
According to the comments last night on Air Vent, the first place this showed up was a Russian server. Sorry if this has already been mentioned.
Posted by: Peaches at November 20, 2009 06:33 PM (9Wv2j)
One sentence. I guess reading comprehension isn't a strong suit of you AGW fraudsters. Keep f*cking that chicken, you retard.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 20, 2009 06:40 PM (AwGqy)
Do you? Are you going to ignore everything in your desperately idiotic attempt to spin this as a one item, you duplicitious moron?
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 20, 2009 06:42 PM (AwGqy)
One sentence. I guess reading comprehension isn't a strong suit of you AGW fraudsters. Keep f*cking that chicken, you retard.
Yes, because we all know f-cking retards regard one sentnece as postive proof.
Posted by: JEA at November 20, 2009 06:43 PM (xTCi0)
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2009 06:49 PM (oObEM)
Yes, because we all know f-cking retards regard one sentnece as postive proof.
Posted by: JEA at November 20, 2009 06:43 PM (xTCi0)
What about those e-mails proving fraud? Explain it away.
Stay on topic cocksucker.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 06:51 PM (+FzLa)
Soooooooooo.....you're saying you're a f'n retard. Got it.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 06:51 PM (DIYmd)
Hey, JEA! That's a sweet ass blog you got there, bro! Forget all this global warming crap, let's discuss how Natalie Portman inspired you to explore veganism more closely.
I mean, Dude! That's the kind of evolved enlightment all humans should endeavour to attain!
Can you see your aura and what color is it?
Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 20, 2009 06:58 PM (vwTt0)
Hey, JEA! That's a sweet ass blog you got there, bro! Forget all this global warming crap, let's discuss how Natalie Portman inspired you to explore veganism more closely.
I mean, Dude! That's the kind of evolved enlightment all humans should endeavour to attain!
Can you see your aura and what color is it?
Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 20, 2009 06:58 PM (vwTt0)
If I put a penis in my mouth, does that make me wretched meat-eater?
Posted by: Jay-EEE-Ayyyy at November 20, 2009 07:02 PM (+FzLa)
Gee, JEA is here late to a thread that's going dead instead of commenting on this thread two hours ago when he was at Ace's (trolling another dead thread with the same meme) and could have really given us a piece of his mind. How brave.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2009 07:02 PM (2qU2d)
Why are you continuing to insist this is "one sentence" of proof?
Other than the fact you're a dumb-as-shit AGW cultist skidmark, I mean, and hence used to making shit up and ignoring inconvenient facts.
It's 62MB of e-mails and code, you stupid lying c*ck. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 20, 2009 07:06 PM (AwGqy)
So, there's a "water blip", meaning the water for some reason gives colder readings than what it should?
Oh, yeah, and there's a "land blip" too. Forgot.
Sixth graders have a stronger scientific method than these people.
Posted by: Cincinnatus at November 20, 2009 07:10 PM (f4sLg)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 20, 2009 07:12 PM (kKP5O)
1. Knowing this AGW shit is already dead- Axe yosef why King Barry ain't been going to Cope since like forever? Huh?
2. Thus using this shit as required to distract from Harry's "Health" legislation coming this weekend to a Senate near you.
There is no coincidence with these fuckers, only a master plan.
Posted by: dr kill at November 20, 2009 07:12 PM (KXVFz)
I am truly impressed. I always knew they were duping us, and this ONE SENTENCE in thousands of e-mails sent over years is absolute PROOF of a global scientific conspiracy!
I think we should round up all the scientists and put them in gulags!
Got anything else?????
Posted by: JEA at November 20, 2009 06:31 PM (xTCi0)
--The e-mails are just the appealing candy shell.
Decoding the data will be the chocolatey goodness inside.
P.S. Asshat
Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2009 07:14 PM (I3Udb)
If I put a penis in my mouth, does that make me wretched meat-eater?
Not if it's your own! Just ask erg!
Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 20, 2009 07:16 PM (vwTt0)
I've got to pop out and send one 'round the u-bend, and while I'm in there I'll cop a fag as well
cheers
Posted by: Bloody climate change fraud bollocks what? at November 20, 2009 08:39 PM (JL3qV)
E-mails in the USA are likely FOIA fodder.
E-mails in the UK are probably not. I think you would have to get a connection to a US source to do a US FOIA request.
BTW - E-Discovery and training has really come up on every lawyer and agency's radar screen in the past few years. Court rules are being set up to deal with it and describe the retention protocols, and not just e-mail, but every part of electronic records retention. How twitter-like communications will be dealt with is coming up.
Careful how you thumb, lawyer boy or girl.
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Gallup: Obama Under 50% for First Time;
Charlie Cook Report: Obama "Beyond Radioactive" In Many Districts Held By Democratic Reps
Finally. The fourth fastest fall below majority support of any president, coming in just days after Reagan fell below 50%, for similar reasons.
Plenty of veteran Democrats who haven't had to break a campaign sweat this decade are quickly losing their aura of invincibility. Next fall, some in this category are likelier to face tough races than many of the 42 less tenured Democrats who populate the "Frontline" list. As of today, eight House Democrats elected prior to 2006 sit in our "Lean Democratic" and "Toss Up" columns, and another 20 whom we view as potentially vulnerable sit in our "Likely Democratic" column. This is not to say that highly influential and venerated fixtures such as Reps. Ike Skelton (MO-04), John Spratt (SC-05), Bart Gordon (TN-06), John Tanner (TN-08 ) and Rick Boucher (VA-09) are goners next year. Their eventual vulnerability is highly dependent on the quality of GOP nominees and the discipline of their "time for change" messages. But if these party elders decide to seek reelection rather than retire, the underlying dynamics of their districts suggest at least several will need to fight to survive. Many watchers of House politics are tempted to downplay the potential for real races in these districts after taking one look at immediate past election history. How could Republicans possibly threaten the likes of Skelton or Spratt, both of whom won more than 62 percent of the vote in 2008? Or Gordon, Tanner, or Boucher, all of whom were unopposed last year? But that was before they were saddled with a sitting Democratic president who is beyond radioactive in their districts. History is history. Less than a year out from Election Day, it's time to rethink who the vulnerable Democrats are. And if President Obama is the dominant issue of the 2010 midterms (and rarely has a midterm not been a referendum on the incumbent president), Democrats ought to be seriously concerned about districts where reliable surveys suggest voters are in open revolt against him. Democrats would rather not draw attention to their problems in these districts, but both parties recognize the sea change underway.This is painfully obvious but I guess I'll say it anyway: After the blowout in Virginia, none of these guys can count on ObaMagic to help them out if they vote against their constituents' strong and strengthening wishes. At the moment, the Real Clear Politics average has Obama at his lowest level of support yet, at just barely over 50%. That will change, I presume, when the silly-ass WashPost/ABCNews poll (56% -- right) drops off the average. Dorgan In Trouble? Even Dorgan? This is another finding of that Zogby poll I mentioned yesterday. Skepticism is warranted, because the poll was commissioned with the specific goal of threatening Democratic Senators with electoral trouble if they vote for ObamaCare. Nevertheless, there is something going on here. Maybe exaggerated or tarted up, but still, something. Versus a likely -- but not yet announced -- challenger (Governor John Hoeven), Dorgan's behind and not by a little.
In a potential 2010 election match-up Republican Governor John Hoeven leads Democratic Senator Byron Dorgan 55% to 36% with 9% undecided. Senator Dorgan, however, leads another possible challenger, Republican Duane Sand, by a similar margin, 60% to 28% with 10% undecided.As Charlie Cook noted, so much depends on what quality of opposition the Republicans recruit. But if it looks like a Republican year, possible candidates tend to become actual candidates. Giuliani, for example: Many assumed he would never want the job of Senator, and, honestly, it's probably not his dream job. But if it looks like he can actually win it -- and maybe even easily -- it's a lot more appealing. So is Governor Hoeven a likely challenger? Well, if he can confirm this poll, he's a hell of a lot likelier to try. One more bit of good news: I linked the Fox poll -- 46% approve, 46% disapprove -- yesterday, but failed to see the sorta-shocking data point Allah highlighted: Among independents, support for Obama is at... 34%, with 51% opposed.
Twenty-eight percent of likely North Dakotan voters support the healthcare bill proposed by President Obama compared with 62% who oppose the proposed legislation, including 48% who strongly oppose the bill. A plurality of respondents believe that both North Dakota Senators Byron Dorgan and Kent Conrad support the proposed bill. When asked how a vote by Senator Dorgan in support of the healthcare bill would impact their potential vote for the Senator in the 2010 election, 12% of likely voters say they would be more likely to vote for Senator Dorgan as a result, while 40% would be less likely. Forty-six percent say Senator Dorgan's vote on health care makes no difference, including 62% of likely-Dorgan voters.
His overall approval ratings pretty grim too 46/46, down five points since last month but Im highlighting the indies because (a) this is the same Fox News poll with the suspicious Republican sample that I cited earlier, and (b) a -17 among the group thats going to decide the midterms is eye-popping, especially when you compare it to last month. In October, among indies, he was at 49/34. This month, a 15-point swing. What happened?I'm a little skeptical of this poll. It just seems odd and doesn't make a lot of sense to me. (Democrats are only sampled by 2% more than Republicans, 38-36; and Independents are heavily against Obama, yet he still has a 46% approval rate? Lot of weird stuff.) But... again, still. One doesn't have to believe every single crosstab of every single poll to realize that something bad has turned here for Obama. Like, for example, this:
A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Friday morning indicates that 38 percent of the public blames Republicans for the countrys current economic problems. Thats down 15 points from May, when 53 percent blamed the GOP. According to the poll 27 percent now blame the Democrats for the recession, up 6 points from May. Twenty-seven percent now say both parties are responsible for the economic mess.Every Obama promise has an expiration date -- how's that sub-8% unemployment rate working for everyone? -- and so now, finally, does Obama's go-to excuse of Blaming Bush.
Thanks to AHFF Geoff and CraigA.
Comments
Posted by: A College Professor at November 20, 2009 03:35 PM (yUybe)
Toward the beginning
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 03:35 PM (ec6zm)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 20, 2009 03:35 PM (yUybe)
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2009 03:37 PM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Cicero at November 20, 2009 03:37 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 03:37 PM (ec6zm)
Amusingly both conservatives and leftists knew what Obama was - but the voters that determined the election couldn't be bothered to look into the man's history on their own...and we are all now paying the price.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2009 03:38 PM (7BU4a)
I have Durbin and Burris. I feel like that chicken.
Posted by: CUS at November 20, 2009 03:39 PM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 03:40 PM (ec6zm)
Posted by: t-bird at November 20, 2009 03:40 PM (FcR7P)
No he didn't. St. Ronnie expanded government spending, increased taxes, and quickened the pace of the financialization of the economy. Hardly anyone sucked Wall St. cock more slavishly.
And here we are today.
Posted by: David Stockman at November 20, 2009 03:42 PM (RdKK8)
I don't know if Cook considered this, but conservative dems used to winning unopposed in conservative districts could switch parties once the certainty of a bloodbath firms-up.
Posted by: MikeO at November 20, 2009 03:42 PM (dYNrR)
Posted by: Methos at November 20, 2009 03:42 PM (CoDwG)
Posted by: Creationists at November 20, 2009 03:46 PM (MMC8r)
No way he should survive in his mainly rural district.
Posted by: Dave at November 20, 2009 03:46 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Ronster at November 20, 2009 03:46 PM (Z1Tmd)
Dagny,
Moran's a good face for the democrat party. Jackasses like him and erg@11 remove the moral doubt from the necessity of pogroms after the collapse.
Posted by: MikeO at November 20, 2009 03:46 PM (dYNrR)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 03:47 PM (MMC8r)
Good news for the weekend in these polls.
Also, in other good news, I'm heading out early for the weekend and wife is outa town until Monday.
My plan:
- Go to the Bar
- Drink until Tired
- Sleep until Thirsty
lather, rinse, repeat.
Posted by: Huckleberry at November 20, 2009 03:49 PM (s2bW4)
Posted by: nickless at November 20, 2009 03:50 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Charlotte at November 20, 2009 03:51 PM (iXIlj)
And I'll repeat, there is no such thing as a "moderate Dem". There are "worried" Dems who will now not vote with the Party unless they get bribed.
Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2009 03:53 PM (CDUiN)
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 03:53 PM (ec6zm)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2009 03:55 PM (l1Wlr)
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2009 03:55 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 03:56 PM (+FzLa)
Bambi's gonna follow the Gipper's lead. Really he is. He said so. He said these deficits are a problem. Really.
Posted by: rockhead at November 20, 2009 03:57 PM (RykTt)
a. Mid-term elections are too late to affect the coming healthcare vote, and
b. Mid-term elections won't alter Obama's absolutely dreadful foreign policy.
Posted by: looking closely at November 20, 2009 03:59 PM (6Q9g2)
Why are you such a coward, erg? Why not use your real name?
Or why not just be a man and stay the hell away the way you were asked?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:00 PM (ZJ/un)
More accurate to say that Reagan cut income taxes but raised other taxes.
It's even more accurate to say that Regan cut income taxes 25%. The social security increases didn't bite that hard.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 04:00 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: President Barak Obama at November 20, 2009 04:00 PM (HylJ6)
Most accurate to say that Reagan stopped the government from stealing so much money from the people, but Congress couldn't stop spending.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:03 PM (ZJ/un)
Yes, in essence he shifted the burden around and stimulated consumer spending. But the whole question is a red herring anyway; Bambi's taxes are historically unprecedented, Reagan spurred an unprecedented economic expansion, and erg is a cocksucker.
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2009 04:03 PM (RD7QR)
and of course if you read ben smith's article he tries to liken it to reagan's numbers. of course he gives no context. reagan's numbers were hovering in the mid-50s when he took office. obama's approval was at 70 in gallup and as high as 74 in other polls right after he was inaugurated.
yeah, that sounds like an accurate comparision to me.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 20, 2009 04:04 PM (pLTLS)
AOL anounced today that it will axe 2300 employees. In fact my local paper was just about wall to wall layoffs today in its metro section, but yet the LSM says we're in a recovery. I expect Bambi to be well below 30% by next summer.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 04:04 PM (+FzLa)
I'd welcome that change...
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 20, 2009 04:05 PM (NtiET)
There's nothing else to do.
Posted by: David Stockman at November 20, 2009 04:05 PM (RdKK8)
Moran's a good face for the democrat party. Jackasses like him and erg@11 remove the moral doubt from the necessity of pogroms after the collapse.
Moran is such a disgrace that the gay couple across the street tape through his name on their campaign sign. Even the hard core libs don't like him but elect him anyway because no one opposes him --a real lib--could beat him easily in the primary.
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 04:05 PM (ec6zm)
This is the real problem with the party, not the mythical hard-liners being run in squishy districts.
Posted by: flenser at November 20, 2009 04:05 PM (H/yko)
Posted by: fiatboomer at November 20, 2009 04:05 PM (0Wf6c)
Posted by: CUS at November 20, 2009 04:06 PM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 04:06 PM (ec6zm)
Posted by: B. 'Jonah' Obama at November 20, 2009 04:06 PM (Oxj60)
Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2009 04:07 PM (CDUiN)
It looks like they may have an unprecedented opportunity here. . .if they materialize.
Posted by: looking closely at November 20, 2009 04:07 PM (6Q9g2)
Remember when *some people* were wringing their hands over a poll back in January or February that said folks were willing to give him two years to sort his shit out? And *some other people* thought that it's a lot easier to say you'll have two years of patience than it is to actually have two years of patience when things went as badly as they must under his policies?
Good times.
Posted by: Methos at November 20, 2009 04:09 PM (CoDwG)
Oh dream the fuck on.
Wage rates declined for working Americans during St. Ronny Halcyon years. Never recovered.
You have very short memories needed for your dreamy apotheosis of dumb old Ronnie Reagan.
Posted by: David Stockman at November 20, 2009 04:09 PM (RdKK8)
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 04:06 PM (ec6zm)
I'll suspect all of the layoffs will be here in America as usual, so Bambi saved or created at least 2300 jobs in India..
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 04:10 PM (+FzLa)
He can still do lots of damage even while unpopular, and has plenty time left to bring it up to do yet more.
Posted by: looking closely at November 20, 2009 04:10 PM (6Q9g2)
It's ABSOLUTELY unbelievable to see a presdient's popularity decline one year after he's elected so soundly! Shocking!
Why, I can't remember a single instance - oh, wait. That's happened to every president since they started taking polls, hasn't it...?
Posted by: JEA at November 20, 2009 04:10 PM (a+kMW)
Posted by: Booter at November 20, 2009 04:11 PM (eimUK)
C'mon -- why won't you use your real name? Why constantly shifting to pseudonyms? Everyone knows it's you, and knows you're full of bullshit.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:12 PM (ZJ/un)
Posted by: bulwark at November 20, 2009 04:12 PM (jvrmc)
Posted by: David Stockman at November 20, 2009 04:09 PM (RdKK
Kinda early in the day to be smoking meth, 'eh erg ?
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 04:12 PM (+FzLa)
Well, we could cut federal spending in half and focus on paying down the debt in addition to cutting income taxes.
Posted by: Methos at November 20, 2009 04:12 PM (CoDwG)
Posted by: David Stockman at November 20, 2009 04:09 PM (RdKK
Define "working american," shithead.
Posted by: fiatboomer at November 20, 2009 04:12 PM (0Wf6c)
If so, why did the voters re-elect him by overwhelming margins?
Never recovered.
How is what happened in the twenty years since RR left office his responsiblity?
Posted by: flenser at November 20, 2009 04:12 PM (H/yko)
We are likely in a technical recovery already but it probably won't have any impact on jobs. It's completely possible to be at 12% unemployment and 2% GDP next year. So expect to hear a lot about "earnings" and "worker productivity" and other positive indicators that have fuck-all to do with jobs.
BTW, the situation that the Democrats have engineered all but guarantees that companies will look overseas for business growth (and jobs). Weak dollar and shitty consumption. . .what would you do?
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 20, 2009 04:14 PM (yUybe)
Something that reflects poorly on the unicorn jockey gets posted and not one, but two trolls show up almost instantaneously to defend their master. I mean, you can almost set your watch by it.
At least as long as Barry is in office axelturfing will be well funded. So enjoy those juice boxes and pudding cups while you can dear trolls.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 04:15 PM (+FzLa)
Define "working american," shithead.
By "working American" erg means cocksuckers and leeches like himself.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:15 PM (ZJ/un)
Wage rates declined for working Americans during St. Ronny Halcyon years. Never recovered.
You have very short memories needed for your dreamy apotheosis of dumb old Ronnie Reagan.
Which says nothing whatsoever about economic expansion. Oh, and do your bosses at Colorado Department of Education know what you're doing on their dime?
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2009 04:16 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: WTFCI at November 20, 2009 04:16 PM (GtYrq)
Wage rates declined for working Americans during St. Ronny Halcyon years. Never recovered.
You have very short memories needed for your dreamy apotheosis of dumb old Ronnie Reagan.
Nice code word: The "working American"--that mythical creature that exists only in the minds of those who believe that non-union workers do not, in fact, work.
Tell us the part about how Jimmah would have been better. We like that. Because my memory is just fine about the grounds for that particular choice, genius.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 04:17 PM (B+qrE)
Erg is a government bureaucrat? In Education?! Good lord, why is that not shocking?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:18 PM (ZJ/un)
So will Bambi once he gets health care passed, manages to make our utility costs sky-rocket, "solves" Afghanistan, balances the budget, spreads the wealth, pays off our mortgages and wins the Olympics for Chicago.
OK, maybe not that last thing, but once he does all these other things, he'll be very popular.
Posted by: rockhead at November 20, 2009 04:18 PM (RykTt)
By "working American" erg means cocksuckers and leeches like himself.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:15 PM (ZJ/un)
I wonder if he can tell us how many Glory Hole jobs his messiah has saved or created? If he has any money to spend, that didnt come from a welfare check, I'd say at least one.
Posted by: Blazer at November 20, 2009 04:18 PM (+FzLa)
This is a good point. The first thing erg did was try to get the conversation away from how rapidly, one would even say deliciously, Bambi is tanking. I'll have to stop taking that bait.
Posted by: joncelli at November 20, 2009 04:19 PM (RD7QR)
There's no justification for a state like North Dakota to send two Dem Senators to DC, other than the criminal incompetence of the GOP leadership. It's as if NJ elected two Republican Senators.
Except for the Indian vote and farm subsidies. But yes the GOP could do a better job in ND.
Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2009 04:19 PM (m2CN7)
If that's directed at me, I always said the same thing, and predicted 6-12 months.
I also predicted a collapse when it happens, as the bubble is pricked. I can't stand by that prediction anymore, since it appears the bubble isn't bursting, but just continuing to erode, in a non-bubble-like fashion.
Although there does seem to have been a more-dramatic-than-usual fall this last month. That fox finding about independents is so shocking I can't really believe it.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2009 04:19 PM (jlvw3)
Posted by: Commissioner John Wiley Price, Dallas Tx at November 20, 2009 04:19 PM (xhPKT)
Posted by: wiserbud at November 20, 2009 04:20 PM (tWf3S)
Why, I can't remember a single instance - oh, wait. That's happened to every president since they started taking polls, hasn't it...?
Not one where the media painted him as the greatest thing ever in all of ever. Ever.
But, since you don't seem to want to discuss the facts...
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 04:20 PM (B+qrE)
Which means I never have to worry about it.
Enjoy your incoming beating.
Posted by: jjshaka at November 20, 2009 04:20 PM (rsMoR)
This next election? Straight R, down the line motherfuckers.
Same with my wife.
Posted by: Uniball at November 20, 2009 04:20 PM (27iEn)
Yup. The O-ministration, of course, believes this can all be fixed with government health insurance (scroll down).
Malevolence or incompetence--I can't tell anymore.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 20, 2009 04:21 PM (NtiET)
Posted by: bulwark at November 20, 2009 04:21 PM (jvrmc)
Posted by: nikkolai at November 20, 2009 04:21 PM (My1PP)
Wow. I recall a few week ago Ace mentioning that Pelosi and Reid were the eequivalenst of the French Generals at the Somme. It looks as though even RCP is starting to believe the Dems are screwed.
Posted by: eddiebear at November 20, 2009 04:23 PM (wnU1W)
#75 Malevolence or incompetence--I can't tell anymore.
And it doesn't matter since in the end, there will be only chaos.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 20, 2009 04:24 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: David Stockman at November 20, 2009 04:24 PM (RdKK8)
Posted by: David Stockman at November 20, 2009 04:09 PM (RdKK
Mine went up. Maybe you were thinking of mortagage rates.
Posted by: polynikes at November 20, 2009 04:24 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2009 04:25 PM (B+qrE)
and yet, the Dems seem hell bent on pushing Obamacare. I guess they believe that seats come and go, but once you get the bureaucrats in, everything else is window dressing.
Oh well, it looks like a whole new set of lobbyists will be hitting K street in january 2011.
Posted by: eddiebear at November 20, 2009 04:25 PM (wnU1W)
80 You need me budweiser, otherwise, you're just scratching your balls with ace's lips.
What rapier-like wit, ergie, especially since you're a premier member of SOA- Sucking Obama's Ass.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 20, 2009 04:26 PM (9hSKh)
81 Mine went way up and so did my husband's. We were working but not in union jobs. Hmmm? "Workers" means union thugs.
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 04:26 PM (ec6zm)
Posted by: nikkolai at November 20, 2009 04:26 PM (My1PP)
Posted by: dananjcon at November 20, 2009 04:26 PM (pr+up)
Project much?
Seriously, dude -- is that a goatee or Obama's pubes on your chin?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:26 PM (ZJ/un)
You need me budweiser, otherwise, you're just scratching your balls with ace's lips.
So, you are not a "man" of your word then, is that what you're saying?
Typical lying, dishonorable, full-of-shit leftist.
Posted by: wiserbud at November 20, 2009 04:27 PM (tWf3S)
We're still screwed though, at least until Dem senators get this through their heads.
Posted by: Methos at November 20, 2009 04:28 PM (CoDwG)
Stop being redundant. You could have just said "erg".
Anyone want to speculate why erg works for the Department of Education? I think it's because of the old saying:
"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach work in the bureaucracy."
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:28 PM (ZJ/un)
Posted by: eddiebear at November 20, 2009 04:30 PM (wnU1W)
haha, yeah the 'wage rates' for air traffic controllers declined when we had Ronald Reagan in the White House.
With Obama, millions of people's 'wage rates' have declined BECAUSE THEY'RE UNEMPLOYED.
Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 20, 2009 04:37 PM (JY1gZ)
Posted by: Michelle Obama at November 20, 2009 04:38 PM (ynkTh)
Which erg doesn't even bother to deny.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:38 PM (ZJ/un)
It's more about job security than about the inability "to do". The only "all" or "more the educator truly pursues is that of knowing all the arguments so they can adopt the most widely held.
Wasn't David Stockman largely correct though? He couldn't stop the spending. Did he just suck at the argumentation?
Posted by: WTFCI at November 20, 2009 04:41 PM (GtYrq)
Once this democrat congress and their kenyan princess destroy our country's ability to borrow, the game is over in Washington, D.C.
Posted by: MikeO at November 20, 2009 04:41 PM (dYNrR)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 04:38 PM (ZJ/un)
when you start actually claiming that someone with the record Reagan has was a bad President, that's when you know they don't know crap about Presidents, the economy boomed under him & in 1984 he won 58% (won 49 states-only lost oppionent's home state by .5%) of the vote just as the economy began recovering, imagine if the election had been held a little later after that...
Obama so far has had the economy erode under him, spending go crazy, deficits and national debt reach record levels and went under 50% faster then dubya did who took years & a natural disaster to get there
Posted by: YRM at November 20, 2009 04:43 PM (eySZ7)
We should all be writing to Boehner and Mitchell to demand that they and every GOP congresscritter and senator put a sentence into every speech stating "We will REPEAL Obamacare the second we retake Congress. We will run "repeal" candidates in every district in 2010. "
IOW "ObamaCare delenda est."
Posted by: effinayright at November 20, 2009 04:44 PM (7M8Py)
There is a way. You must elect a repub majority in the state house and senate, because they will be responsible for the redistricting after the census. Moran can be redistricted out.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 04:45 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at November 20, 2009 04:45 PM (SVIJA)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at November 20, 2009 04:45 PM (SVIJA)
take out the fawning press and I argue he wouldn't have even won in the primaries, remember count the FL & MI votes correctly in the primary & Obama loses, Hillary won the popular vote in the primaries
Posted by: YRM at November 20, 2009 04:48 PM (eySZ7)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 20, 2009 04:49 PM (DIYmd)
You know what the 2nd best thing about this is?
Of course you don't because you're not too bright. So I'll tell you.
The 2nd best thing about Obama's numbers going down is that the OMG's (Obama Media Group) numbers sink with Obama. As long as the media carries Obama's water while Obama pisses on the People and tells them it's raining, the People will foment a deep resentment for the media.
For example, you can only tell people who are struggling and paying more and more taxes that we're in a recovery so often until there's a backlash.
Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 20, 2009 04:54 PM (JY1gZ)
"The sand is running out of that hourglass." - Dana Perino
Posted by: franksalterego at November 20, 2009 05:03 PM (GKyIE)
Growing perception of real failure at an accelerating rate?
The "independents" (aka the generally trendy and contemporaneously malleable along with some subset of real independents) were sold - and bought - a bill of goods. Team Obama ran as the moderates they never were. It takes a while for that illusion to expire. And now it has. Abruptly. Abruptly because of the size, speed, and scope of the socialist grab along with the corresponding corruption that was only supposed to bedevil the GOP.
Independents now understand the scope of the illusory "change" and find that Obama isn't anything near what they thought he was. Politics as usual and actually, with Pelosi and Reid driving the bus, worse than expected. What's more, projections for national improvement are non-existent as the realization of an anti-capitalist and anti-liberty ideology that's driving this government sets in. Tangible business contraction is evident, real, and widespread. Now almost everyone realizes it'll be long-lived contraction barring dramatic reversals. No one, not even independents, see this kind of change on the horizon.
So, yes, while the shift in polls is dramatic, I think it's entirely explainable.
The GOP should start campaigning on the reversal of everything Pelosi et al. advance.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2009 05:06 PM (3nPNg)
Obama "Beyond Radioactive"
Posted by: hous bin pharteen at November 20, 2009 05:08 PM (pU4D7)
Posted by: Paul Revere at November 20, 2009 05:19 PM (epgqp)
No problem, but obviously I want to be credited for a prediction that bore out, and not charged with predicting the opposite.
I remember I was down in the dumps for months and then around March I started realizing we could do this, that a god can bleed, etc., and started posting optimistic stuff and making these predictions.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2009 05:19 PM (jlvw3)
That's also when the stock market bottomed. I think if you plotted the SP500 and Ace's optimism it would track nicely. . .
. . .boy.
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 20, 2009 05:21 PM (yUybe)
Two, Obama's support among African Americans is very high, even for a Democrat. With racial gerrymandering, that means those blue-collar blue-dog mostly white Democrat districts are not showing the support for him that a 49% approval rating would ordinarily indicate.
Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2009 05:22 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: elliot m at November 20, 2009 05:23 PM (0a6dS)
I've always wondered if there will be a "this black guy ain't really black" backlash. I mean. . .he's not. He doesn't come from slave stock. He was raised by white people, mostly. He was fasttracked through the Ivy League because he had awesome lefty cred and didn't "sound black."
The second that the identity group thing fails. . .he loses like 10% of the electorate overnight. How likely that is I have no idea.
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 20, 2009 05:30 PM (yUybe)
Here's an idea.....
They should produce Billy Beer again. Then O can send everyone in America a six-pack (his AA czar can tell him which houses to avoid as this information is already on file with the Ministry of Truth). Then we can have a 2009 version of "Hands Across America" where we all pause and sip some Billy Beer at that same time. It's America's beer summit with O. The healing can began and we can both simultaneously weep and sip.
I like the symbiotic feel of aligning our countries shittiest memories in one fell swoop.
Billy up!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 20, 2009 05:37 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2009 05:45 PM (wAQA5)
Or, we could just pick and choose the polls we want to report on to support whatever false idea we want to push (like that Obama's support is plummeting!...the numbers show it is not). Do you care at all about facts?
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:04 PM (FRErk)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2009 06:09 PM (n2wxa)
100There is a way. You must elect a repub majority in the state house and senate, because they will be responsible for the redistricting after the census. Moran can be redistricted out.
Actually I think this gerrymandering was the product of a republican legislature. They gave the 8th district away by putting all the super libs--Alexandria and really loony hippie Reston into one district so that the surrounding districts in Fairfax county could all go republican without these areas screwing up more than one district. I just have the misfortune of living in one of them.
Posted by: Dagny at November 20, 2009 06:11 PM (ec6zm)
Sally Ann--quit hanging out with Fletch. Seriously, Chevy Chase will turn your brain to shit.
Even if we are to take your polls at face value, it's still almost a 20 point dip in 11 months time. That's not anything to write home about now is it toots?
Now go skidaddle--go play tennis with the Underhills.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 20, 2009 06:13 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 20, 2009 05:30 PM (yUybe)
His election represented something African Americans always wanted. A kind of acceptance in the mainstream culture. Conservatives knew Barack's skin color was a net asset and he would have gotten nowhere as a boring old white politician.
Of course, even if Barack were a successful president, his approach will bring divisions, but now he's bringing black people down with him. Jesse Jackson's remark about people who cannot be black and oppose health care I took to mean "cannot be black and oppose Obama."
If Obama becomes uncool, it'll be more than that 10%. A lot of what liberals support, they do so because they think minorities support it.
Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2009 06:22 PM (T0NGe)
See a pattern here?
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:24 PM (FRErk)
you have no idea what you're talking about Fletch mistress.
Reagan's numbers were barely above 51% coming in--so his slight dip down is a nonissue compared to O's 15 (or 20 depending on the poll you read) point dip. But sure we'll give you 15 points because you still look like a colossal ass in making such a ludicrous argument.
Way to pick the wrong hill to die on sweetheart. you sound like a moron--and not the good kind.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 20, 2009 06:33 PM (pLTLS)
Not one where the media painted him as the greatest thing ever in all of ever. Ever.
But, since you don't seem to want to discuss the facts...
This is news like the sun rising in the east is news. Oh wait, circa, that's not news either...
Posted by: JEA at November 20, 2009 06:37 PM (xTCi0)
Nope. On NPR today, there was a poet who had also written a book about a mixed race character during the days of slavery. She actually called it 200 years Before Obama, or 200 BO. The interviewer then helpfully said, "And his father was most likely of slave heritage," and she replied, "Oh, yes, yes, of course." They are very much on it, but laying it on a bit thick. Makes me think they need to keep the fully committed in line.
Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at November 20, 2009 06:49 PM (VLYnh)
The majority of the US has finally come around to my original thinking. Chart his approval against unemployment and see if there is a correlation.
Just wait until unemployment hits 12% and the market dips again in the Spring.
Posted by: airandee at November 20, 2009 07:06 PM (vKyH7)
The candidate thing is important. If it looks good, better people will risk a run because a loss won't kill them electorally forever. Otherwise you get 'show the flag' candidates. For instance, a friend of mine ran for Wayne County (Michigan) prosecutor because the party needed a candidate and he was the only one available. And he had just graduated from law school, and his bar results would not be in until the week before the election (he passed the bar).
It had to be done, but no serious Republican was going to run against John D. O'Hair.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at November 20, 2009 07:13 PM (TUWci)
Just proves the old saying:
you can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but you can not fool all the people all the time.
Obama managed to fool 52% of the people on Nov 3. He managed to let another 20% give him the benefit of the doubt. Those people have judged him and found him wanting. Now some of those 52% are waking up. I can see landslides from my porch.
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