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| Bush Commutes Libby's Jail Sentence; Leaves Fine, Probation Intact"Excessive" sentence, he says. President Bush commuted the sentence of former aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby Monday, sparing him from a 2 1/2-year prison term in the CIA leak case. Bush left intact a $250,000 fine and two years probation for Libby, according to a senior White House official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the decision had not been announced. Bush's move came hours after a federal appeals panel ruled Libby could not delay his prison term in the CIA leak case.Bush's statement: I have said throughout this process that it would not be appropriate to comment or intervene in this case until Mr. Libby’s appeals have been exhausted. But with the denial of bail being upheld and incarceration imminent, I believe it is now important to react to that decision. ... This case has generated significant commentary and debate. Critics of the investigation have argued that a special counsel should not have been appointed, nor should the investigation have been pursued after the Justice Department learned who leaked Ms. Plame’s name to columnist Robert Novak. Furthermore, the critics point out that neither Mr. Libby nor anyone else has been charged with violating the Intelligence Identities Protection Act or the Espionage Act, which were the original subjects of the investigation. Finally, critics say the punishment does not fit the crime: Mr. Libby was a first-time offender with years of exceptional public service and was handed a harsh sentence based in part on allegations never presented to the jury. Others point out that a jury of citizens weighed all the evidence and listened to all the testimony and found Mr. Libby guilty of perjury and obstructing justice. They argue, correctly, that our entire system of justice relies on people telling the truth. And if a person does not tell the truth, particularly if he serves in government and holds the public trust, he must be held accountable. They say that had Mr. Libby only told the truth, he would have never been indicted in the first place. Both critics and defenders of this investigation have made important points. I have made my own evaluation. In preparing for the decision I am announcing today, I have carefully weighed these arguments and the circumstances surrounding this case. ... I respect the jury’s verdict. But I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive. Therefore, I am commuting the portion of Mr. Libby’s sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison. My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh punishment for Mr. Libby.... The Constitution gives the President the power of clemency to be used when he deems it to be warranted. It is my judgment that a commutation of the prison term in Mr. Libby’s case is an appropriate exercise of this power.Our long national Comments1
Look at the liberals at Fark. The monkeys are throwing shit at anything that moves.
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2906726 Posted by: Sinistar at July 02, 2007 06:13 PM (KyMWc) 2
One of my leftist co-workers marched in and said indignantly, "Bush just pardoned Libby! Can you believe that?!!" I said, "Yeah, he's no Marc Rich. Bush needs to step it up." "Splutter splutter. Well, yeah, they all do this crap." "Mmmmmmm." Posted by: Warden at July 02, 2007 06:18 PM (S3iyH) 3
Bush should have mentioned his faith in the appeals process.
Libby still gets to contest this travesty on the merits. Posted by: someone at July 02, 2007 06:19 PM (TXnhk) 4
The loud popping of moonbats experiencing cranial detonation creates such a joyous sound....
Posted by: Master Shake at July 02, 2007 06:21 PM (tcMQZ) Posted by: topsecretk9 at July 02, 2007 06:27 PM (j+a9l) 6
On the downside, now that Bush has tasted blood Executive Power he might just put in place a preemptive communtation for everybody sentenced for breaking immigration laws to 'time served'. - Posted by: BumperStickerist at July 02, 2007 06:29 PM (wieXQ) 7
Heh, nice one Warden. Did the vein bulging out of his forehead blow at that point?
Posted by: Sinistar at July 02, 2007 06:29 PM (KyMWc) 8
I think this sounds about right, especially if it leaves Scooter free to continue his appeals. Plus, the DUmmies are inconsolable. At least one has voiced a death wish against Bush. Quite frankly, I'm surprised it's only been one so far. Others are convinced that Bush is about to declare martial law and dissolve Congress. And just imagine the Special Comment that Keith is scribbling away right now, a beige crayon clutched in one frantic paw, veins popping in his feverish forehead. The Mister Meter's going to be off the charts. I love it! Posted by: Kensington at July 02, 2007 06:29 PM (kFwRi) 9
Heh. I love when Bush does crap like this. Unitary Executive, baby!
If only he did it as much as the moonbats actually believe he did. Posted by: JohnW at July 02, 2007 06:30 PM (Dc9q6) 10
“As Independence Day nears, we’re reminded that one of the principles our forefathers fought for was equal justice under the law. This commutation completely tramples on that principle,” Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said through a spokesman.
Jeebus !!!...I just had 3 ejaculations, from the overwhelming gravitational pull of the intellect of this mental giant. Posted by: franksalterego at July 02, 2007 06:30 PM (aHwKj) Posted by: Stormy70 at July 02, 2007 06:31 PM (Y+o71) 12
I love it- the DUmmies are having a fit. What's really funny is how many of them talk about this being "the last straw", as if they previously had only a minor dislike of Bush before. They also should "hypocrasy" without sense of irony, considering Clinton's cash-for-pardons scheme. 18. It's a friggin' mafia is what it is. They don't even care to hide it anymore. Trillions of stolen dollars via the illegal war dumped into their cronies' pockets. Non-stop violations of the law and the constitution. And now "get-out-of-jail-free" cards. It's just insane. 77. $200,000 fine? Barely counts as pocket change Loses his law license? The Repugs haven't practiced anything resembling law for a very long time 9. I've had it. This fucker has to be permanently removed. And I don't give a shit how. 74. I wonder if they took impeachment off the table because they were afraid the MF'er would declare martial law and eliminate the congress? 10. This is total bullshit. I hate Bush...hate him hate him hate him 58. They are so fucking ubove the law! I can't belive this. I feel like bursting out with tears! He get's away with EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!! 76. HANG for pete sakes... This is a mass murderer and world terrorist. He stole 2 elections. He's treasoned and robbed us. Look how many he's killed. We still have his illegal war going on and people are still dying because of him.Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 02, 2007 06:31 PM (plsiE) 13
Sounds right to me, particularly as I'm very interested in seeking a ruling on the constitutionality of Fitzgerald's appointment. Someone at work came into my office all up in arms and I said "Hey, I think he should have been treated the same as Sandy Berger". That pretty much ended that conversation.
Posted by: alexthechick at July 02, 2007 06:32 PM (+GLsT) 14
Bah, fucking new comments thingy. Well, that and my laziness in not cleaning up the HTML. But mostly the new comments thingy. Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 02, 2007 06:32 PM (plsiE) 15
In congratulating Bush on doing something not moronic, let us not forget Libbey would never have been in this mess in the first place if Bush had the balls to call out Wilson instead of trying to refute him with whispering subordinates. Plus I'm sure he had some input on Gonzales recusing himself and this whole "special prosecutor" nonsense. Posted by: Entropy at July 02, 2007 06:33 PM (HgAV0) Posted by: Hurricane Mikey at July 02, 2007 06:35 PM (v47Mt) 17
He should have just flipped the Dem's the finger when they started their bullshit at the outset.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 02, 2007 06:37 PM (QTv8u) 18
He should have just flipped the Dem's the finger when they started their bullshit at the outset.
As long as it wasn't the one that he just used on Michael Ian Black's ex-girlfriend... Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 02, 2007 06:41 PM (tVbxd) 19
Gee, I wonder if liberals will freak out.
Posted by: fugazi at July 02, 2007 06:41 PM (ZA5j1) 20
I feel like bursting out with tears! He get's away with EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bwahahahahahahaha! I imagine the writer stomping his feet like a 2 year old as he/she's writing this. Posted by: Warden at July 02, 2007 06:42 PM (S3iyH) 21
HAHAHAHA!!! I love seeing the moonbats whipped into a frenzy!
Posted by: Sinistar at July 02, 2007 06:44 PM (KyMWc) 22
In congratulating Bush on doing something not moronic, let us not forget Libbey would never have been in this mess in the first place if Bush had the balls to call out Wilson instead of trying to refute him with whispering subordinates. Posted by: Entropy at July 02, 2007 06:33 PM True- Bush is still a fuckup, but this seems like the right thing to do. 30 months in jail when he wasn't the subject of the investigation and didn't have an affect in hindering it was harsh. More importantly, it's fun watching the liberals go batshit again. It's like watching a retarded kid bang his helmet-clad head against the wall- disturbing yet hilarious. Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 02, 2007 06:51 PM (plsiE) Posted by: Albert the Monkey at July 02, 2007 06:52 PM (DzeyU) 24
I feel like bursting out with tears! He get's away with EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bwahahahahahahaha! I imagine the writer stomping his feet like a 2 year old as he/she's writing this. Even CheChe took it like a little trooper. Posted by: dave at July 02, 2007 07:02 PM (zE9sN) 25
Ehhh... I question the timing. Keep an eye out for "Bush/Kennedy 3: Return of Amnesty"
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 02, 2007 07:04 PM (oLULt) 26
Someone should tell the DUmmies that "treason" isn't a verb. I thought they felt the thing wasn't important anyway since Rove wasn't involved?
Posted by: Mike at July 02, 2007 07:04 PM (NnpEK) 27
It would be wrong to send a guy named "Scooter" to prison. The Crips would pimp him out for a carton of Newports before you could say, "minority outreach."
Posted by: Nordbuster at July 02, 2007 07:04 PM (jYT9+) 28
I agree with Darth... does anyone really think that Bush would have bothered with this if his precious amnesty had already been passed? He's just throwing us a bone while he regroups for the next comprehensive piece of shit.
Posted by: Watcher at July 02, 2007 07:08 PM (2TLL1) 29
'Bout time Bush showed a little sack. Anytime the leftist morons are screaming in the fever swamps, its a good bet that George finally did something right. Posted by: Fred at July 02, 2007 07:08 PM (a1nDD) 30
Bush's move came hours after a federal appeals panel ruled Libby could not delay his prison term in the CIA leak case.
*deep sigh* Posted by: Perpetual Student at July 02, 2007 07:10 PM (41UWE) Posted by: OregonMuse at July 02, 2007 07:14 PM (zmdkZ) 32
Wait, is "Albert the Monkey" mesa or WP?
Posted by: someone at July 02, 2007 07:18 PM (TXnhk) 33
Bush has too much turn the other cheekness to make hay over the Burger $50000 fine. Good idea though, that would have been awesome.
Posted by: joeindc44 at July 02, 2007 07:18 PM (za2Xz) 34
Why did the Fed court of appeals not let Scooter postpone his jail time? Was there even a vote?
Posted by: Mike at July 02, 2007 07:19 PM (NnpEK) 35
Mesa, I'm too lazy to do the name changing thing very often. If you are curious then you can just look at the hash.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at July 02, 2007 07:21 PM (QTv8u) 36
I'm thankful the president saw fit to partially mitigate this injustice, but I still feel Libby was the victim of a political witch hunt and show trial. So many things about this case were just wrong, I hope he is vindicated on appeal.
Posted by: lmg at July 02, 2007 07:23 PM (k8k3Z) 37
OMG you guys! CNN just said that Democrats will be ANGRY with Bush now!! Apparently, they were pretty satisfied with Bush before today. All the Lefties who were drooling about prison rape fantasies involving Scooter will now have to get another fix.
Posted by: Mike at July 02, 2007 07:24 PM (NnpEK) 38
They just had ol' Joe "No Publicity!" Wilson on CNN (phone) bloviating about "justice shall be done!" and they have a civil suit, yada yada.
What. A. Tool. Posted by: mojo at July 02, 2007 07:30 PM (gUMc6) 39
I am listening to Chris Matthews spitting and hissing over the phone on Hardball over this. Classic. Watching the MSNBCers going nuts is making my evening.
Bringing up Marc Rich seems to send them into convulsions. I toast you, Pres. Bush. Posted by: Stormy70 at July 02, 2007 07:33 PM (Y+o71) 40
Funny thing, I don't remember all this leftist indignation when President Clinton communted Mel Reyonlds' sentence.
He only molested a child. Posted by: Jay at July 02, 2007 07:42 PM (08MOR) 41
^ should be "Reynolds"
Posted by: Jay at July 02, 2007 07:43 PM (08MOR) 42
I agree with Darth... does anyone really think that Bush would have bothered with this if his precious amnesty had already been passed? He's just throwing us a bone while he regroups for the next comprehensive piece of shit. Oh noes! I question the timing!!! Gee, could it have something to do with today's ruling denying him a stay on his prison sentence pending appeal? Maybe? At what point in time could he have done this without someone questioning the timing? Ever? Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 02, 2007 07:43 PM (v8vVW) 43
I'd like to think W did this out of conviction. But the fact remains that a whole bunch of us just demonstrated our ability to make Senators sweat, and if Libby spent a night in jail, then I suspect we might have made W sweat too, and perhaps a lot worse. Although I am fully aware that Libby is no saint, just a water-carrier, that man going to jail would have pushed me over the edge to buy that airline ticket to DC, and I suspect there were a lot of people who were right at that point. If we let the bastards who already control the MSM and the universities start putting people in jail for what party they belong to, God knows where it will stop, so it has to stop right fucking now. You hear that, W.?! Posted by: sherlock at July 02, 2007 07:58 PM (ojW85) 44
I can't help but wonder if was Bush was passing a little candy to the base after the amnesty debacle. I don't so easily take candy from turncoats anymore. Posted by: esoterica at July 02, 2007 08:02 PM (LTZS/) 45
Excellent (in Monty Burns voice).
At least this shows B isn't worried about trying to appease the Dems. They can't be appeased. (If he resigned they'd complain that he didn't resign sooner.) Do what you think is right and let them yell yell yell. Posted by: Arthur at July 02, 2007 08:12 PM (prGK+) 46
Richard Armitage was unavailable for comment.
An NPR piece said Republicans will be forced to defend Bush's act...every smart and decent Republican should be eager to defend it! Posted by: eman at July 02, 2007 08:14 PM (FWrFx) 47
--hey just had ol' Joe "No Publicity!" Wilson on CNN (phone) bloviating about "justice shall be done!" and they have a civil suit, yada yada--
Surprised he can talk through that new very important beard. Posted by: topsecretk9 at July 02, 2007 08:15 PM (j+a9l) 48
Cheetos and hand jobs for all loyal Republicans! It nearly coincides with Bastille Day (kudos to Rush), but in America July 2nd shall be known for anon as LIBBYRATION DAY! (It's called Jump...to conclusions.) As for the $250,000 fine, where exactly is that money destined for? I say it be earmarked for a bonus for the Halliburton CEO. Mwah-ha-ha! Posted by: Xenu at July 02, 2007 08:34 PM (O28xr) 49
This story perfectly illustrates the priorities of the news networks. O' Reilly's show is talking about the terror situation in London and pedophiles while Keith Olberman is dedicating his entire show to the Libby pardon. News Flash lefties: Bush could pardon Charlie Manson and there is NOTHING you could do to punish him. Posted by: Mike at July 02, 2007 08:39 PM (NnpEK) 50
As long as it pisses libs off, I like it.
Posted by: Hammer at July 02, 2007 08:44 PM (eXdIs) 51
It's nice to see Bush grow a set and commute Scooter's sentence. I mean, c'mon, violent criminals get much less strict sentences (especially if they're "first time offenders").
Posted by: Xoxotl at July 02, 2007 08:56 PM (F/ysA) 52
Making the fine $50,000 would have been more in line with Libby's transgressions
You gotta hide national secrets under a construction trailer and steal stuff from the archives to qualify for that level of fine... ...oh and be a democrat. Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 02, 2007 08:56 PM (CmXp+) 53
Love it, love it, love it! The DUmmies and Koskids are going apeshit bonkers. I think they're actually chewing on the furniture. They are almost incoherent (even more so than usual) with impotent, seething, flaming hatred. It makes me all warm inside. And it makes me laugh. And THAT makes them even more psychotic. I don't even care if this was the right decision or not. Anything that pisses the Nutroots off this much is okay by me! Posted by: another Mike at July 02, 2007 08:59 PM (38YoQ) 54
News Flash lefties: Bush could pardon Charlie Manson and there is NOTHING you could do to punish him.
Posted by: Mike at July 02, 2007 08:39 PM (NnpEK) I don't think the lefties would be nearly as pissed - off if Bush had pardoned Manson. I hope the "Marc Rich" and "Sandy Berger" comparisons do shut them up since I know several fo them will be blathering on tomorrow at work.Posted by: anne at July 02, 2007 09:02 PM (uJBct) 55
Only an Alan Colmes, Chris Matthews, Keith Olberman daisy chain can ease this kind of pain. Sorry for your very bad Monday, guys.
Bwahahahahahahaha! Posted by: eman at July 02, 2007 09:27 PM (FWrFx) 56
Renewed warm fuzzies for the President. Ah to be a fly on the wall of Libmisfits swallowing this fab news. Just imagining it is sending me into peals of laughter. In fact the DU is offering up some gems right now. Looks like a lot of posters have been reduced to pure swearing like a Sailor. So gobsmacked they can't even come up with the usual pseudo highbrow convoluted gibberish. At least they have their trendy new iPhones to keep them pacified. Thank God for Lip playtoys to keep them occupied. ROFL. Also I just know some crackpot Conspiracy moonbatguano brain will somehow say Glasgow/Britain is a preemptive Global smokescreen to distract from the Clemancy granted today. Ya know they're that out of touch. So relieved for Scooter. Yay Posted by: GoldenPears at July 02, 2007 09:37 PM (SWiXj) 57
Hey all, Posted by: derek at July 02, 2007 09:39 PM (7us0J) 58
Derek, Tom Delay addressed this issue in a piece on Townhall and said thusly : "if Scooter Libby lied about what he did or did not remember saying in conversations with reporters, he was not lying to mislead anyone about any wrongdoing. That is, if he lied, he lied about what he had heard from someone else in another conversation, and whatever that might have been, it was perfectly legal. "
Posted by: GoldenPears at July 02, 2007 09:47 PM (SWiXj) 59
Hey all, Posted by: derek
No, Libby was convicted of lying under oath in a highly suspect trial. This commutation is consistant with the nature of the trial, Libby's life, and common outcomes in similar cases. It also smartly leaves Libby's appeal of the conviction itself intact. Libby still has a chance to clear his name. A jury's verdict is not the Word of God. Posted by: eman at July 02, 2007 09:48 PM (FWrFx) 60
Bill Clinton
and Sandy Burger should have done jail time. We need to be consistent
about these things
Agreed. So when do Clinton and Burger's jail terms start? Posted by: zetetic at July 02, 2007 10:03 PM (HtEGF) 61
May I just say to all you libtard trolls... Merry Fitzmas!!
Where's Tubino when you need him? Or Mike, he of the labrador and cocktails? Posted by: Uncle Jefe at July 02, 2007 10:04 PM (iBgga) 62
Lib trolls aren't out in full force yet. Too busy holding paper bags over their faces from hyperventilating. Posted by: GoldenPears at July 02, 2007 10:14 PM (SWiXj) 63
Shoulda commuted Sandy Berger's prison sentence in the same order (oh, wait....) well anyway, he could have commuted Sandy's hypothetical prison sentence and let the MSM explain it. Classified information. Lying to investigators. Equal treatment.
Posted by: capitano at July 02, 2007 10:22 PM (+NO33) 64
You just can't wipe the smile off my face. Of course, it would be even bigger if he had given him a full pardon. But then, if Libby gets his sentence overturned on appeal. Well... :-)
Posted by: jhc at July 02, 2007 10:27 PM (nHRdf) 65
capitano,
I love the idea of the President signing a commutation for Sandy Burglar and Scooter Libby on the same day so that each has to pay $25,000. That would be an amazing stroke of bravado and fun to the Nth degree. Posted by: Nom de Blog at July 02, 2007 11:12 PM (Nn5hT) 66
18 He should have just flipped the Dem's the finger when they started their bullshit at the outset.
As long as it wasn't the one that he just used on Michael Ian Black's ex-girlfriend... Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 02, 2007 06:41 PM (tVbxd)
Could someone please explain this to me........here or in an email. I feel very left out. Posted by: Maggie at July 02, 2007 11:26 PM (A5SFX) 67
Bush is taking heat because the commutation was premature and, hence, unnecessary. Bush has the executive power; the POTUS administers the federal prisons. Therefore he could have delayed accepting Libby into the prison system until the appellate process had completely been played out. chsw Posted by: chsw at July 02, 2007 11:35 PM (WdHqZ) Posted by: Uncle Jefe at July 03, 2007 12:37 AM (iBgga) 69
It's always good to see the moonbats going crazy. It's been far, far
too long. If Bush keeps this up, I'll almost like him again.
Posted by: Dr. Remulak at July 03, 2007 01:25 AM (fqBpv) 70
Libby remains a convicted felon. This too is 'good for Republicans,' right? It's a relief that we can dispense with all that Rule of Law nonsense and get back to the basics of looking out for our own.
Posted by: buma at July 03, 2007 01:51 AM (H4Y9t) 71
For all those "commutation vs. pardon" debaters out there, I suspect that this outcome is exactly what was requested by the Libby team. Considering the many "foot in a bucket of cement, right hand tied behind back" rulings by the trial judge, along with the "12 experts say it's questionable" amicus brief about the initiation of this farce, there's still a significant chance of exoneration in a court of law. Their last, worst choice for an outcome would be a full pardon with an appeal that fails for being moot.
There's no chance that a quarter million is "moot", and that allows Scooter to pursue his case through the appeals process. If, after the election and before the inauguration, the case doesn't look solid, then would be the time to take a pardon. Posted by: cthulhu at July 03, 2007 01:52 AM (BlopA) 72
"I said, "Yeah, he's no Marc Rich. Bush needs to step it up." http://isteve.blogspot.com/2005/10/scooter-libby-marc-rich-connection.html I don't like fishing expeditions by special prosecutors, even when they convict people I don't like. He didn't deserve to go to the pokey over all that Valerie Plame / Joe Wilson crap. But, all this inside baseball stuff is a real bore. Our government generally despises regular guys like us, as proved by their recent attempt to shove that amnesty bill down our throats. Libby is no ally of conservatives, or friend of liberty. He's just another amoral lawyer on the make. He wouldn't give a damn about you or your problems, and I suggest that you shouldn't give a damn about his. And what does it say about Dick Cheney that he had, as a close confidant, the mouthpiece for a fugitive creep like Marc Rich? On that same note, remember when Clinton fired all the U.S. attorneys during his first term? The democrats have - conveniently - as they are making a big stink about Bush having fired eight of them. Actually Clinton didn't fire all 93 attorneys. He let one stay. Know who that was? Michael Chertoff - our worthless, feckless secretary of Homeland Defence. A republican that only Bill Clinton could love. A plague on all their houses. Posted by: Martin at July 03, 2007 02:22 AM (b+sVA) 73
He wouldn't give a damn about you or your problems, and I suggest that you shouldn't give a damn about his. We don't. We just want to stick it in the eye of the Left. Those sanctimonious pricks are always pulling shit like this and it's fun to watch them froth. Posted by: jhc at July 03, 2007 07:45 AM (nHRdf) 74
a list of Bubba's people that he pardoned - to include his own brother
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm Remember Marc Rich? How about Henry Cisneros? Can't remember that far back, moonbats? Farking @$$hats.... Posted by: fmfnavydoc at July 03, 2007 08:56 AM (I6QiV) 75
I said, "Yeah, he's no Marc Rich. Bush needs to step it up." And, Rich's attorney was?? One I. Lewis "Scooter" (Sparky) Libby III. Small world. Posted by: CJ at July 03, 2007 09:44 AM (9KqcB) 76
Thanks Uncle Jefe! I like to be in on the jokes like the rest of the cool kids.
Posted by: Maggie at July 03, 2007 10:13 AM (A5SFX) 77
Whenever someone says Libby lied I simply ask what was the lie? Funny they never seem to know.
Posted by: polynikes at July 03, 2007 10:14 AM (m2CN7) 78
Libby remains a convicted felon. This too is 'good for Republicans,' right?
Indeed. Democrats tend not to convict theirs and let'em stay in congress. Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 03, 2007 10:38 AM (CmXp+) 79
This is the Best Fitzmas Ever!
Posted by: Barbula at July 03, 2007 11:50 AM (zf6OM) 80
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